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Ashwini Vaishnaw, the Minister of Railways, has announced that the country would have its first hydrogen-powered passenger train by December 2023. The train will run on the Sonipat-Jind route in Haryana, which is 89 km. The announcement has created a buzz among researchers in the country. But are we ready for the switch to green hydrogen in our trains? Let’s assess the economic and technical feasibility of the switch from diesel to hydrogen in passenger trains.
Going greener and more sustainable towards the environment, the Indian Railways is introducing a green revolution and will be introducing hydrogen and electric trains to the eight heritage routes in the country by December 2023. The Union Minister for Railways Ashwini Vaishnaw confirmed this recently.
These trains will include the modified version of steam engines, that will be back on tracks, equipped with vintage sirens and green steam vapours. Talking about this initiative, Vaishnaw added that the new trains will run on the routes of Kalka-Shimla Railways, Nilgiri Mountain Railways, Darjeeling Hills, Kangra Railways, Bilimora Waghai, Mhow-Patalpani, Marwar-devgarh-Madriya and Matheran Hill Railways in Maharashtra.
Hydrogen engines have been developed by a few countries like Germany, France and China, and now India will also be a part of this, the minister added.
Talking about the modification, the minister said that the coaches of new trains will be retro-fitted, induced with hydrogen-propulsion engines that will be used for commercial purposes by the end of the year.
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@PowerTrain Год назад

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@YashGhoda Год назад

First they will convert 1200 KW DEMU to a DPRS based Hydrogen fuel cell train and trials will held on sonipat to jind area. There are Dual mode Hydrogen train available in market where they use 25kv line as well as hydrogen fuel cell but so far RDSO is planning to retrofit ZDM3 Diesel-Hydraulic Locomotive with hybrid fuel cell for Kalka- Shimla

@sohelshekh7 Год назад

Andar ke aadmi lagte ho

@AkshatSharma1505 Год назад

Great, now write it without the jargon and explain the acronyms.

@YashGhoda Год назад

@@AkshatSharma1505 DEMU = Diesel Electrical Multiple Units , DPRS = Distributed Power Rolling Stock , zdm3 = narrow-gauge locomotive , means vo log kalka shimla vale engine ko modify karne ka soch rahe hai coach vagera same hoga filhal aur uske sath me hi jese vande bharat hai vesa hy ek Hydrogen fuel cell vala train set bhi under development me hai jisme 10 dabbe honge.

@nishantmohapatra8113 Год назад

Phir I hope ki Indian Railways saare alcos, emds ko bhi modifiy karde hydrogen powered locomotive me taaki madad gaar sabit ho jaye.. Electrification pr dependence 100% nhi honi chahiye. Ek achi initiative hogi yeh to

@wilklablacquit Год назад

It's good idea to keep some diversity. Modi government is very cautious in every decision from not letting foreigners dominate UPI, not letting Google dominate Android ecosystem to trains.

@shreyaadak8445 Год назад

Modi government bohot kuch karta hay but loco me jaanbuch ke toilet nehi deta. Toilet rokke rakhna parta hay, ab to ladies loco pilot bhi bohot ho gaya hay

@nashtrashcool Год назад

Foreigners dominating UPI means?

@riteshpandey8586 Год назад

Alternatives are always good, Wese bhi indian Railways bahut dimag wale log chala rahe hai toh wo jo bhi fesla lenge wo sahi hi lenge, Yese decisions ke pichhe dher sala research hota hai or unko achhe se pata hota hai ki unko kya karna hai😊

@mayurk8697 Год назад

The more alternatives we have..the better for us

@aparnabhardwaj8500 Год назад

In India citizens have this colonial mindset that disrupting and disturbing lives of fellow citizens is heroic aka blocking highways Toll stations railway tracks what not etc. Then there are internal and external weirdos who can not stand the rise of us 1.4 billion Indian citizens working harmoniously together. Electricity not easily stopped and Hydrogen is brand new tech. Railways being a life line for citizens must have All the Green options open to run 24x7.

@saurabhtyagi3748 Год назад

There's no train in Mussoorie as you pitched. Only Darjeeling, Shimla, Gwalior and Ooty has the running toy train in India

@sharedytp2253 Год назад

Hydrogen engines will be as a good thing in terms of the 2jd engine in the push pull train schema. Tho this might not sound as exact in the full picture, it can work in raising the speed of the trains without having to allocate another electric engine for the same, if implemented in a precise way

@Charvak-Atheist Год назад

It's good. But I think we should focus more on, Hydrogen Trucks, Ships and Airplanes.

@abirnigam8816 Год назад

To Indian Railways trucke, ships aur airplane pe thodi fous karegi. Indian railways trains pe focus karegi.

@tushar4evr776 Год назад

Airplane is not feasible cause Hydrogen has a very low volumetric efficiency..

@durgeshpatil1344 Год назад

Yes you might be correct with trucks but as the railway infrastructure is developed most of logistics will be done through trains ,so it will be better for us to go with trains and save our energy resources

@SILOPshuvambanerjee Год назад

Airplanes and large ships are not possible. A lot of thrust is required in air and water drag

@letsgogreen4484 Год назад

Ye hydrogen trains odisha k costal area k liye achha hai q ki bht cyclone ate hai or electric lines ko kharab kar dete hai. Isiliye inko backup k torh par use Kiya jaa sakta hai.ya regular v use kar sakte hai.

@primefactors888 Год назад

1:24 hydrogen burning/combustion (jalana) and hydrogen reaction with oxygen are the same thing

@omhekde9033 Год назад

Lmfao 😂

@gcs6371 Год назад

No fule cell work differently from combustion engine

@primefactors888 Год назад

@@gcs6371 yes ,that's explained in the video, i am just saying combustion of hydrogen and reaction of hydrogen and oxygen is the same thing

@murthys743 Год назад

dude there are many forms of hydrogen differently produced hydrogen reacts differently atomic hydrogen nascent hydrogen etc etc

@primefactors888 Год назад

@@murthys743 that reminds me of a very important things I need to study for jee mains😂

@artus198 Год назад

Bcoz in certain terrains providing the poles for electric overhead cables is hard - in those places hydrogen trains make sense, they don't need an overhead cable, it saves overall cost and maintanence

@ayushtieari385 11 месяцев назад

Third rail battery

@arghyadas2447 Год назад

Yeh idea actually me soch rha tha.. Patalpani Kalakund Heritage line ko khatam na karke bhi tourist train me hydrogen loco use kiye ja sakte hai aur foreign tourist ko attract karke waha ki marketing ki ja sakti hai

@in589y Год назад

Hydrogen locomotives doesn't have to be limited to Heritage lines. There are a lot of places it can be used in broad gauge. In Kerala railways abandoned entire railway corridor leading to historic station in Wellington Island because the line cannot be safely electrified due to its proximity to Naval Airbase. This line could have been useful to thousands of people living in the area. Also electrification is not possible in container terminal because it will interfere with the working of cranes. Currently they use Diesel locomotives for shunting inside the container terminals. Though in last case battery electric locomotive would be better as they are idle most of the time and is always close to power source. They won't need huge capacity batteries.

@nishantmohapatra8113 Год назад

Then all alcos and emds should be modified into Hydrogen powered locomotives..

@sudhirlakshmanan Год назад

We have now excellent expertise in manufacturing diesel locomotives and also modifying those locomotives to make them hybrid. And now we need the tech that goes into hydrogen locomotive engines. It can help our exports and also will help our engineers modify it to build something better.

@Mrshibusahoo Год назад

Dependency on one source energy can sometime play Havoc... There should be always 2-3 sources

@sanjaysarkar6187 Год назад

Hydrogen vande bharat can make sense in northeast states because of the terrains. It's not easy to electrify those routes

@sahilkaith5282 Год назад

Gov. should ensure that in future New GE locomotives also work with hydrogen

@ObscureManifesto Год назад

You can't rely on just Electrified anything. You need to have a well diversified ecosystem of Petrol/Diesel, Electrified Vehicles/Locomotives, Hydrogen, and other renewable sources.

@ajayram198 Год назад

5:07 mein speaker says Electric train s are clean & don't pollute environment. But we should remember that the electricity isn't green. Even though Renewable energy share is increasing, majority of electricity in India is thermal power which involves burning fossil fuels like coal

@furyxtv5540 Год назад

I guess the initial investment in hydrogen fuel should be done in railways on the experimental basis and once we are sure enough about its success it'd be easier to implement it for automobiles.

@VVVedic Год назад

भारत को सुपरपावर बनना है,& लंबे समय तक रहना है तो - 1। राजनीतिक -(एक राष्ट्रीय भाषा,इस्लाम का खात्मा, गलत इतिहास को सुधारना, न्यायपालिका बेहतर करना ) 2। आर्थिक - ( खाद्यान्न, दवा, ऊर्जा - ईंधन बिजली, रक्षा उपकरण, अंतरिक्ष तकनीक ) में आत्मनिर्भर बनना पड़ेगा ।👍👍👍

@Amuzic_Earth Год назад

At first I was dead against hydrogen trains, but now that I know they will be for the narrow gauge scenic routes, it makes so much sense. I am from one of these places(Siliguri) where the narrow gauge heritage train runs...I have yet to ride on the train though, I am looking forward to ride it once it goes H2.

@shreeveda Год назад

Don't wait for H2-run trains. Get on that heritage trains soon. No excuses.😄👍

@Amuzic_Earth Год назад

@@shreeveda have you seen the person who sits in front of the coal engine? If u have...then u won't ride it. It's inhuman

@SILOPshuvambanerjee Год назад

@@Amuzic_Earth Love from Siliguri dada

@priyanshumahato110 Год назад

yep me too from slg

@hiren_bhatt Год назад

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@Motivationforfuture22 Год назад

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@ajayram198 Год назад

5:29 Mussoorie does NOT have a train station, let alone Heritage Trains. Probably he was referring to Kalka - Shimla Himachal NG line.

@hardeshmanhas4102 Год назад

The requirements for trains is So enormous that anything on tracks rhat transports..will find huge demand

@noirdezzir8424 Год назад

Hydrogen is the new code word for Adani. This technology is nowhere close to maturation, but Adani does have a shell business in the name of hydrogen. Writing a free check will be illegal, so write hydrogen train on it. Meanwhile it is becoming impossible to get confirmed tickets less than one month in advance. Wah Modiji Wah.

@sivag2032 Год назад

Lol.Germany has been using Hydrogen trains for 30 years now.Where you got the news it not matured?

@noirdezzir8424 Год назад

@@sivag2032 i have traveled extensively in German trains and have not seen a hydrogen train. There are experimental fuel cell trains under testing by very credible research organization in collaboration with DB. For about 3 years, not 30. Adani has no such credible background.

@d1str1ck Год назад

The first railway should ask and find green clean stable suitable grantee electric sources for its existing electrified network.

@d1str1ck Год назад

If you are still left with some money then construct West-South and South-East freight corridors.

@nikhilbhatnagar333 Год назад

Bro what is the density of hydrogen?

@akshayt8837 Год назад

Hydrogen trains should be used in metro lines..it will save unnecessary capital and maintainance expenditure on electrification..and without wires rail lines appear more beautiful

@rapiddu6482 Год назад

No it won't happen because hydrogen trains itself and fuel cell technology is much more expensive than electrification. Also running running cost are much cheaper with electricity. Even with maintenance cost it is still much cheaper to run electric trains. If you want good looking then it is better to go for 3rd rail on the railway track itself for electricity. Rapid metro in Gurgaon already uses that it does look good all while still working on 25kv electricity.

@karthikps4889 Год назад

Bro, if you think about it more than 3 sec, you will conclude it's a bad idea. •Metros need to be operate constantly,These Trains are useless while refueling. •Building High pressure Hydrogen storage infrastructure in urban environment and in trains is inherently dangerous •Hauling fuel cells and Hydrogen tank along with passenger is inefficient. •You know fuel cells need to be replaced after years. •Just forget about hydrogen generation and it's logistics. Many more!! It is always good to invest more money initially and save money for decades, rather than invest little initially and loss money for decades

@akshayt8837 Год назад

@@karthikps4889 if its dangerous in urban environment..then how does germany using these trains in passenger segment?they must have developed advanced safety technology..nuclear reactor is 1000 times dangerous than hydrogen trains but still india constructing new nuclear projects..

@akshayt8837 Год назад

@@rapiddu6482 countries are thinking of hydrogen fuel cell as substitute to battery..in trucks,cars etc..then why not use it on metro lines?our highway minister himself using hydrogen car

@tushar4evr776 Год назад

@@akshayt8837 Like everywhere else, Germany is only experimenting. Germany isn't a good example, you know. They have closed down their nuclear powerplants and replaced them with imported electricity from French nuclear powerplants and coal powerplants. And you need electricity to produce hydrogen in the first place. How do you think electrolysis works?

@SafavidAfsharid3197 Год назад

The thing is in converting renewable electricity to green hydrogen and then using that always waste some amount of energy and money compared to directly using electricity, it's inefficient and energy wasting and water wasting.

@rapiddu6482 Год назад

That's why it's is a failure on current model of hydrogen extraction. Energy efficiency is only about 50% compared to 80% with electricity. If you're going to use electricity to extract hydrogen anyway then why not just use that electricity directly. Although at the same time hydrogen really makes sense in places like hydrogen trucks where it is still 2x better than diesel trucks in terms of efficiency. Plus highway can't be electrified without complexity so it is better to put hydrogen in trucks rather than trains which already runs good with electricity. Just have hydrogen trains just in case you have to deploy in case of war or emergency. But regular use doesn't make sense.

@saisrinivasv.d136 Год назад

@@rapiddu6482 again green Hydrogen is still stupid, as we are breaking water, instead, we can simply go for blue hydrogen, where Methane one of the powerful greenhouse gas can be broken into co2 and H2, which when compared with methane is far less effective as a greenhouse gas, and India use out large cattle population as a source to generate methane gas and promote cattle as a protected animal

@user-rb9mi4ow4c Год назад

Good decision on adopting hydrogen locomotive for indian railways by the government. Jai hind

@daruwaal4164 Год назад

Sab kuch hona chahiye ELECTRIC HYDROGEN AND DIESEL WE SHOULD NOT DEPEND ON ANY ONE THING 💯

@kev_naughty Год назад

You need hydrocarbons to produce electricity and not All electricity is green electricity. So we need Hydrogen locomotives.

@shivamagrahari6550 Год назад

This always smart to have different types of transportation

@gargsamyt Год назад

Hydrogen trains are being used on the narrow guage, tourist trains where electrification was not possible. Note that 100% electrification is only targeted for broad guage.

@aborginalsingh Год назад

They are replacing dmu with hydrogen in remote areas with scarce population, electric mode still far more efficient , specially in densely populated areas.

@theindianchennal.8009 Год назад

Best disition by Indian railways

@MJ-nm2mn Год назад

Hydrogen fuel cells have an energy conversion rate of approx 40-50%, meaning most of the energy is lost while generating electricity.

@aj9969 Год назад

But it is more efficient than diesel.. also more energy dense.

@MJ-nm2mn Год назад

@@aj9969 electric trains have 80-90% conversion rate.

@aj9969 Год назад

@@MJ-nm2mn electricity is not possible in some routes.. hydrogen is for those areas.

@MJ-nm2mn Год назад

@@aj9969 there are also issues of conversion losses during production of hydrogen, post production storage, energy usage during transportation of hydrogen to loco site, storage in local storage unit, refilling into locos + just 40% energy conversion rate in fuel cell. They have electric lines even in Swiss Alps.

@aj9969 Год назад

@@MJ-nm2mn majority of Indias electricity is generated with coal, and this is used to power the rail system.. The purpose behind electrification is to reduce dependence on Diesel, which India is forced to import, and shift this dependence to Coal, which India has plenty of.. Green hydrogen is the next frontier that India is exploring.. GAIL is the pioneer in this field, and it is only natural that India finds use for this in its rail sector. Also, some lines cannot be electrified due to defense issues - like the wellington Island region in Kochi.. Railway power lines will interfere with navy aircraft.. In addition, the nation must retain the ability to power trains even if the electrical grid is taken out, such as during times of war.. we saw this recently in the ukraine war, when Russia destroyed Ukraines power sector completely, leaving it unable to run its trains which are fully electrified.

@alfredpullan1457 Год назад

I hope over a period of 30 to 40 years all trains will run on hydrogen fuel cells and we can junk electric infrastructure of trains and use electricity for industrial and household purposes.

@rameshverma9410 Год назад

Bhai achi information thi.. But yr aapki voice clear nhi thi or boht fast bhi thi.. Samj nhi ata tha WORD clear sound nhi KRTE..I HOPE u better next time.. Keep growing 👍🙏

@illusion8340 Год назад

Hydrogen trains will replace Diesel trains and as our transportation minister India will be the largest producer of hydrogen That is why the government has approved the hydrogen policy so in future the price will go down so it is obvious to promote hydrogen train 😁😊😁

@SG003 Год назад

Exercise karna, healthy khana, aur bulletproof gadi me ghumne ka matlab ye nahi ki insurance lene ki jarurat nahi

@harishrv Год назад

All forms of Sustainable energy alternative backups are necessary for healthy environment.

@neeleshranjansrivastava6985 Год назад

This is most informed and rational central government we have got so far

@hermanirascible3310 Год назад

What’s wrong with diesel locomotives?

@persialianlian4971 Год назад

Bhai jab public se 43.000 CR -48.000 CR earn karta hai railway to thoda aur accha karne do 43.000 earn kya hai 18-20 thnd. loss karne do bhai full support Indian railways ko India jindabad

@truthm2139 Год назад

Hydrogen run train has its own limitation it can't run speedily with high capacity load as electric trains sets can run. Hydrogen run train can be used only for limited and low capacity commuters and parcels.

@cerveauy8782 Год назад

Diversification. Maybe, diversification is good & important.

@sharmapd1 Год назад

Generate electricity from Hydrogen, if fuel-cell technology is available to India. Maturing fuel-cell technology is time-taking for India for various capacities.

@gooddayok Год назад

Hello - this is New Technology - even USA is going to start service in 2024 with TWO ENGiNES ONLY - we have 10,000 + locomotive engines of various sizes from freight to Vande Bharati trains - this concept will require 10+ years for replacing all locomotives. It is great step forward by Bharat - lets welcome and wait patiently

@sam917fly Год назад

0:22 locomotive video of Kopar Khairane navi mumbai

@gopichalapathi1223 Год назад

I think ..its because .. India produces sooo much amounts of industrial hydrogen ...for steel production etc., which makes hydrogen a cheaper alternative than any other fuel source .. basically it will reduce burden on consumers and as well as govt...

@sameermaniyar6386 Год назад

Very good by government of india But the value of tickets shell also be reduced Public should not fear of price rate Of metro ,high speed train, Government of india should keep in mind of lower class middle class And if the cost of hydrogen is less The government should first change the air lines ,airforce , Aeroplanes , airforce planes , and buses of all india which is runned by government of india. The government of india Should change aeroplanes in to hydrogen fuel aeroplane And india should change government buses into hydrogen fuel buses if the cost is less then current Electric, uranium, battery power vehicles should be used in india For buses.

@sudheeraggarwal570 Год назад

Hydrogen gas will remain a dream in transport, due to size of proton Green hydrogen for industrial chemical purposes is the best use of hydrogen gas Aluminium air battery will be the best alternative for train

@dineshbaghel4267 Год назад

I have one question Will our hydrogen trains looks like modern or like ordinary DEMU trains.

@vignanavedika940 Год назад

Alternate machines always should be there.

@sudeeptaghosh Год назад

Hydrogen is most abundant but difficult to find in nature .. it’s always attached to something …

@ag4eng Год назад

There is a need to have diverse sources for power and uses may be in heavy freight,

@shibankhabroo5365 Год назад

Use. Hydrogen for generating electricity to run trains and factories.

@myoldmemories1361 Год назад

63% of electricity generated from coal in India ,

@ghanashyammeher1322 Год назад

Because more than half of electricity generated in India is through non-renewable coal based Thermal power plants.

@manumudgal4988 Год назад

Hydrogen is a good alternative in any emergency like grid failure situation

@vijaysharma-xh2jy Год назад

train ke sabhi dibbo ki chat pe solar panel laga do. 20 dibbe ki train aaram se 150kw ki electricity produce kar sakti he jo ki total load 600kw ka 25%pure bachat he 3 saal ke baad sabhi solar panel ka kharcha nikal ke.

@VVVedic Год назад

भारत को (ऊर्जा - ईंधन बिजली, खाद्यान्न -भोजन, रक्षा उपकरण ,अंतरिक्ष तकनीक ) में आत्मनिर्भर & वैश्विक एकाधिकार & सप्लाई चैन बनानी होगी,यदि सुपरपावर बनना है तो।👍

@manupillai7545 Год назад

Given the long-term objective of Net Zero, railways may choose to run their fleets entirely on renewable energy. The first stage would be to electrify 100% of the routes for running trains during the day when solar power is available, while hydrogen locomotives may be utilised to drive the fleet at night while still using renewable energy sources.

@flowerdeflower Год назад

We should have as many options to choose from as possible ....having 1 option is like a sitting dead duck

@ps-fv5qr Год назад

Not buying but building our own in India 🎉

@tejs3043 Год назад

0:27 that's taken from Koparkhairne station, that's where I live!!!! 🤩

@hpremjit Год назад

Arre Bhai, dono estimaal ho sakta hai saat saat. Hyunki rail track toh ek hi hai dono ke... Jeise ek hi sarak mein diesel, petrol, or electric car chalte hai.

@eliotanderson6554 Год назад

So...are we importing them or manufacturing in india

@laxmanrawat748 Год назад

Manufacturing in India

@laxmanrawat748 Год назад

@@eliotanderson6554 Akame ga kill

@KARMA-jr6uk Год назад

@@laxmanrawat748 ahh depression

@laxmanrawat748 Год назад

@@KARMA-jr6uk yeah

@laxmanrawat748 Год назад

@@eliotanderson6554 it's available on RU-vid anione asia

@Abhsjdj Год назад

Pune mein hydrogen bus ka testing ho chuka hai.

@puru246 Год назад

ek reason ke liye pura video

@jagadeeshe7226 Год назад

Jai Hind Vande Mataram⚔️🫡🙏🚩 Happy Republic day to all Hindus🙂🙏🚩

@maheshmanian Год назад

Yes. Hydrails is great for scenic ro

@prahladexpress4901 Год назад

Sbhi diesel locomotives and eog generator car ko hydrogen fuel me convert kar dena chahiye

@hritamnath4919 Год назад

Hope we don't end up importing those locomotives from China

@commieTerminator Год назад

#AskPT Wouldn't it be cheaper to run already existing diesel-electric locomotives on 2nd/3rd gen bio fuels (carbon neutral fuels)? When traveling through forested areas, CO2 emissions should support plant life

@shyamalisetua1092 Год назад

H2 train are best suited in shunting purpose.... As diesel ⛽ loco make too much of pollution..... Can't operate electric loco in shunting even we've WAP 12....

@STPT-SaiBaba Год назад

Bhai no technology can take over in a day. It may decades to shift to hydrogen running train. Govt has to be Visionary and plan for distant future.

@abhishekmishra5936 Год назад

You forgot to mention Kalka Shima Toy train.

@sureshruparel8433 Год назад

Instead of hydrogen train better run electric trains and concentrate hydrogen power generations there by use electrical laid systems fully used effectively

@madhumitaroy4756 Год назад

From April to August in India it is negative impact due to temperature Hidenburg Air craft reason of temperature

@nikhilbhatnagar333 Год назад

What is the density of hydrogen?

@ronakmistry789 Год назад

Bilimora To wahgai first hogi & Me bilimora se hu ❤️❤️❤️

@yumdoot007 Год назад

So basically we first use electricity to produce hydrogen and oxygen then combine them again to produce electricity😂.

@Ajay12393 Год назад

Hydrogen base public Transport ko Increase karo Road 🛣️ Accident Kam ho jayega.

@harshit7331 Год назад

That was my question🙋🏻‍♂️

@shreeveda Год назад

Don't write off nuclear-powered engines of the future. Technology is unstoppable even if we stop ourselves. 😄

@kapilvictor Год назад

Hydrogen trains have their limitations . And to completely cover hydrogen train all over country will take decades. So electricity is the best choice for now.

@CountingStars333 Год назад

Modi govt knows there will always be demand for some kind of fuel. Full electric is not viable everywhere Our leaders know the future. Also too many electric hi speed trains will place too much demand on the grid and it will fail, so we need these trains to take over in meantime while grid is improved.