Why Is It Impossible To Make A Good Hulk Movie? 

I want to see the Hulk movie that truly understands what the Hulk represents. In the comics at least, the Hulk wasn't just the symbol of testosterone and rage. He was a manifestation of suppressed childhood abuse. Banner's father was an abusive alcoholic, and the Hulk is that abused child, using all that rage to defend itself from the world. He can not coexist with the Hulk until he learns to accept that deep rooted trauma. It's why he's one of my all time favorite characters. For the record, I've seen the 2003 Hulk and it's still my favorite of the films. But I still have serious problems with it and would love to see them take the ideas and build off it to make what I think could be truly spectacular.

The Incredible Hulk 2008 is so underrated. I also prefer Hulk when he's by himself without the Avengers!

After what Disney did to Hulk and Thor I'm not looking forward to see what they'll do with the X-Men

I know many like to criticise the Incredible Hulk (2008) movie, but I genuinely like it and think it is an underrated gem in the MCU. I'll admit it is not as psychologically deep as the 2003 Ang Lee Hulk movie, but it works to show the duality between the physical raw power of the Hulk and Bruce Banner as a character. They need to take the character back and remember what made the Hulk an iconic character: his rage, duality and mental conflict. The 2008 and 2003 Hulk movies excel at exploring different sides of the character in two separate movies. The 2008 Incredible Hulk movie explores the raw savage and duality of the Hulk's character. The 2003 Ang Lee Hulk movie explores the psychological torment and childhood trauma of the Hulk's/Bruce's character and how multi-faceted he is. Both these movies excel at different aspects of the character but only get half of the character right. If we had a Hulk movie that demonstrates how multifaceted and complex the character is while retaining the action-packed savage and raw power of the Hulk's character in a movie, then it could possibly be the greatest Hulk movie to date.

Actually ang lee seemed to understand the lore of the hulk more than most cinematic appearances

I loved all the hulks. But I think Ang Lee actually did understand the character and I do think that’s a very underrated movie.

Some of my favourites sequences of all time in a superhero movie are actually from The Incredible Hulk of 2008 like the whole first transformation/laboratory scene and the military attacking him with Tim Roth at the university. Really well made and all around memorable fun action sequences

The Incredible Hulk (2008) was excellent. Good story/acting, good action & hulk had a big monster to actually fight it wasn’t just him running from the military literally the whole movie. The romance between Bruce & Betty was convincing. I’ll never understand why that movie gets so much hate it’s better than a handful of the MCU films (I said it)

Hulk needs to be nothing more but a tragic tale...this man is constantly exasperated with this ability but he knows its that ability to save the world

I would love a Rated R Immortal Hulk movie.

Ang lee's version is super underrated, it's a film that I really enjoy and I don't think that we'll ever see a more faithful adaptation than that.

The 2008 incredible Hulk movie was the best in my opinion , it shows what the hulk should be in the movies an unstoppable force of nature

The edward norton hulk was great. I wish he wouldve stayed, but he does stand out a bit when you put him along with everyone else.

It’s not impossible, the problem is some people actually like typical themes of Hulk comics, others just want Hulk to smash stuff constantly

Unpopular Opinion: Ang Lee’s Hulk is a hidden gem

The 2008 version of the Hulk will always be my favorite. The action sequences, the acting, the writing and story are all top notch, and was everything the 2003 version was lacking (no offense to fans of that one). Another solo movie would’ve been great but considering how extremely mediocre Marvel’s productions have been lately, it’s for the best that Hulk stays out of this one.

I think the one character that is more deserving of a solo movie than the Hulk is Silver Surfer. A Silver Surfer solo motion picture would be out of this world!

Man, I wish it had worked out with Norton. There's NO WAY he would have just rolled with what they have done to the Hulk the last few years.

"Wouldn't like him when he's angry?" On the contrary, that's when we like him the most.

For anyone curious, the guy who played Bruce Banner in the 2003 Hulk movie was legendary Australian actor Eric Bana. While he hasn't been in anything as noteworthy since then, he still stars in movies. Either way, Ang Lee's HULK is an underrated classic, and some would argue IS the definitive Hulk movie.

Ang Lee made a great Hulk movie. People might not like the cinematography or the CGI but in terms of story, it captured the psychology of character perfectly.

I still think 2008's Hulk is an amazing film, despite all its flaws. I just want Hulk to go back being more brutal. I like Professor Hulk, but they've been making him the butt of jokes, specially in the She-Hulk series. They don't have to completely revert him to being a mindless animal; after all his arc was interesting (even though I hate he "mastered his hate" and became Professor Hulk offscreen), but would be nice to see him more... Hulk.

Man I loved Ang Lee Hulk, especially the sound bite you picked out really resonated with me

Edward Norton is one of my favorite actors, I love what he did in the 2008 Hulk movie. There's nothing wrong with him wanting a good script, very few actors like him are willing to be outspoken and holding on to what they believe is right. I'm glad he stayed away, especially with the big mess that is Disney and the MCU these days and the way they completely destroyed the Hulk they got now. Mark Ruffalo is nothing but a patsy at this point and he'll just trudge along with whatever ridiculousness they're asking him to do as Hulk. I'll take the 2008 Incredible Hulk movie over any of the sludge being churned out by the MCU right now.

The Ang Lee Hulk is a masterpiece especially for 2003

It's not hard. Both previous films did perfectly because they were focusing on different aspects of him. The 2003 film was the only one with his traumatic childhood and how it manifested into the Hulk, the 2008 one delt with the hunted and hounded, and very impressively cunning, beast man. Comic characters have too many aspects to them to be condensed into a single movie unless you're trying to go for one or 2 aspects

They need to pull a Black Widow and make a movie that takes place either during his time on Sakaar in Ragnarok, or during the 18 months in a gamma lab during Endgame. Those are crucial moments in his life and I'd like to see more of it onscreen. If it is to take place in the current timeline, a solo Hulk movie needs Leader as the villain, Betty returning, Bruce and Ross making peace with each other, and maybe him, Jennifer and his son defeating the villain.

Of all the movie channels, this one tackles particular topics that really interests me. Kudos to you sir and keep it up.

I still remember how dope it was in the comics and Bruce finally worked on himself enough to become Professor Hulk. He was such a badass , the body of Hulk and the full brain capacity of Bruce Banner. Man, they really butchered him in endgame and so forth.

Hulk (2003) and The Incredible Hulk (2008) are both fire.

To me Ang Lee's Hulk was the best version.

Ang Lee's Hulk movie is great.. As people say, it has its own problems, but more people appreciate it as time passes by... My biggest gripe with those who shit on the movie is how little research they do before typing stuff online.. The action scenes were short and the story had to be dragged because of the budget but Ang Lee knew his assignment and captured the essence of Hulk perfectly... I never hated the movie even watching it for the first time.. I only complained about the action being short or too dark, but on rewatch and current technology, watching his fights at night is actually awesome... We can talk about everything else about the movie, but he's the closest to the comics when it comes to abilities and power... Just one example; How many superheroes get nuked?? This one did in his first film

Norton's Hulk was excellent. Is just that they keep rebooting instead of sticking into a line. Norton's Hulk is far superior in character and acting, but I understand Norton was not very collaborative with the company.

2003 hulk is the best one ever made. Most emotional depth of any Hulk.

The Skaar in the Shehulk series was less than intimidating. They gotta show me he can be a threat and not a green Zach Morris

They need to take the Hulk-Skaar moments from World War Hulks comic run and make it into a father-son retrospective movie where Banner reconcile with his childhood trauma as a way to teach Skaar what it means to be a superhero and what it takes being a Hulk with what baggage it carried, along with him having anxieties about parenthood and rising to break the cycle of his abusive past. That'd be a whole family buffet of some capeshit film.

I don't think, even today, CGI is good enough to truly bring the character to life. Ang Lee's was a pretty good movie with dire CGI, what followed were movies that weren't as good with better CGI. But there's still a disconnect between what you're seeing and full reality.

2004 hulk is underrated, the story line was mad, how you see his origin, his movements and powers etc. The cgi isnt even that bad for early 2000s.

2008 incredible hulk is my favorite mcu movie of all time. Highly underrated

The Incredible Hulk (2008) is an almost perfect Hulk movie to me. Hugely underrated MCU installment. What they did to him after that though..

I LOVED the Ang Lee HULK! It is still one of my favorite movies in any genre.

It's definitely NOT impossible to make a good Hulk movie. Those who think so are most likely unfamiliar with the Hulk beyond what we see in films. Also I'd argue that Ang Lee's Hulk is a good movie and he sure did have respect for the source material when you look back on his interviews and thoughts about the film nowadays.

The absorbing man becoming David Banner was not the directors decision. Ang Lee wasn't the writer he was the director! Director don't write their scripts unless they want double duty or triple duty

Only in Hollywood would making 100 million dollars be seen as a failure. Twice.

I actually like the ang Lee hulk movie and I saw it in theaters but I can agree it would be more expensive to bring the the actual hulk to life cause of all it would take to create the character alone and professor hulk that showed up in endgame wasn’t even like by comic fans when the comics did it I doubt we see another hulk project any time soon not because of rights issues but cause it doesn’t feel like they want to address the elephant in the room and factor in the infinity saga characters that are still around at this point

The movie needs to be a bruce banner movie first then the hulk. Its the same formula they did with the first superman and the 2nd Spiderman movie (Tobey). Make the main character relatable and likable to the audience and then bring out the big guns afterwards.

Edward Norton's Hulk was the Hulk we know and love Not the Avengers' pet/comic relief

Disney nerfed him.

I didnt mind the Ang lee version, it was slow paced but as the character is so limited in story layers, he turns green & just smashes things up (even in the comics) slower pacing seemed to mean a slower approach worked I thought. there seemed to be a lot of emphasis on the desert nuclear test like symbolism, and a lot about philosophy, they understood THE HULK wasnt the point, BANNER was, and it was as much about confronting his past as it was action set pieces. Also the extra story layers worked - Banner's phychotic father with his god complex, experimenting on his own son, & the big ruthless business guy (although a big corporate stereotype) tied in with General Ross

2008 hulk is great

I loved Ang Lees Hulk movie . It was darker than most . Granted I was 7 when it came out . I still rewatch that today before watching the 2008 Norton movie

The Incredible Hulk Animated Series is peak Hulk.

The real reason is Hulk and Namor for that matter, are still owned by universal and marvel made a deal with them. The deal was you can use these characters as much as you want but you can’t give them solo projects.

I've been reading Hulk comics for 7 years and I'm caught up on his recent comics. Still waiting for #6 of his newest run. I thought of a story for the Hulk that I think would be very cool to see on the big screen.

I think the comic frame break-up in the Ang Lee movie was pretty cool.

5 years is a really long run for a comicbook TV show

Hulk is like the Superman of Marvel. All powerful, with little to no weakness

Ang Lee's Hulk is still the best Hulk film, in my opinion.

Great video man :]

The first hulk movie story is very beautiful raw and messy.

The incredible Hulk is still the best Hulk representation physically and a walking powerhouse. It was THE solo Hulk movie THAT showed a jaded and angry Hulk that kinda continues Ang Lee's Hulk arc who was good in a comic way like the child mentality of the hulk but got Tired as time passed by the time we see Norton's Hulk. Guess they didn't want to continue with Norton cause he was really hard to handle since he is very hands-on with his material and Disney or marvel didn't like that.

The Hulk is one of my favorite heroes in Marvel Comics because like Wolverine, he went through childhood trauma. Because of the abuse he endured by his father, the Hulk has existed within Bruce Banner's mind and is a part of Bruce Banner's psyche. What the MCU needs to do is to Hulk become the unpredictable, rampaging, savage beast that we know and love.

She-Hulk was 10 times wose than the 2008 Hulk movie.

Ang Lee's Hulk movie was actually not bad

The Incredible Hulk was a good hulk movie, enjoyable and showing the strength of the hulk

I'm not a comic book fan but I do recall enough from my uncle who was. The Hulk had to get his 1st cousin knocked up to have kids. Even as a kid, that grossed me out hearing my uncle talk about that when he was explaining to my brother and me the storylines of all the comic books he had.

It’s a little too late for this type of movie to be made because Bruce combined with the hulk but for a non-origin hulk story I think showing the struggle Bruce banner faces on a daily basis of fighting the urge and anger of turning into the hulk and then finally accepting what he is and giving into the hulk and the rage in an effort to protect people and do good. Throughout the course of all the Marvel movies we haven’t really seen the struggle and fear of the hulk that Bruce would face daily

Actually. The first episode of the series, which was a TV Movie, aired in November 1977.

Great video.

Not sure if it's an unpopular opinion but it is my opinion, the problem with all the Hulk movies is that they focus on him being vulnerable to Betty Ross, even though I like both the 2003 and 2008 movies, they were kinda boring regarding the storyline around Betty Ross. One of the best scenes involving Hulk I think is during the first Avengers movie, when Hulk actually transforms and it's.. scary. He's shown as a force that cannot be stopped, something that while he can fight for the good guys, at his core he is a monster. I love the Ragnorak movie, I'm not alone here, but after hearing hints about it prior to its release I genuinely thought it was going to be a Planet Hulk movie - showing the more "uncontrollable" side of Hulk - followed by a World War Hulk. I genuinely thought we'd get a phase after Thanos that had Hulk as the unstoppable villain which would have been an incredible and thrilling twist both for comic fans and MCU fans.

The Ed Norton Hulk movie is a good Hulk movie. And it excites me that he was starting to learn to control it. Shame they reversed it with Ruffalo. Even if “I’m always angry.” Is cool… it ruined the whole breathing/meditation thing. They could’ve even done both.

The Incredible Hulk from 2008 will always be the best Hulk movie ever made, as far as I'm concerned.

Err, they did make make a good hulk movie called The Incredible Hulk with Edward Norton. That version of Hulk was the best. Everything about the design and capturing Edwards Hulk is comic book masterpiece.

After how the Russo brothers treated Hulk I went back and gained a true appreciation for what Ang Lee did with the character. He put care and thought into him, just not sure people were ready for that. Also love 2008 Hulk the best. Its just fun, the best design and feels connected to the t.v. show. Man always on the move.

I think they'd have to do a kaiju movie take where Hulk is the monster and Banner is the human side/drama. Think of Godzilla or Pacific Rim sort of plot devices.

Your description of Ang Lees Hulk is so off, I'm shocked no one stopped this from going out.

It wasn't a "Brady Bunch" style, it was to emulate comic book panels. How can yall not understand this

Their only chance of redeeming Hulk would be if they did a prequel movie like Black Widow and showed the time between Age of Ultron and Ragnarok, with him meeting Valkerie getting into the Sakaar tournaments and probably defeating some bully champion like the Red King. That's the character's ONLY HOPE!

My problem is that since the Avengers, Hulk has become more recognised on earth as a good guy since working with the team and acknowledged for saving the world like in Endgame, not to mention make peace with Bruce Banner off-screen. This would mean Hulk would have to do something very drastic to change everyone's minds to become the monster again that we all know him for and be exiled from earth to start the future Hulk instalments.

My favourite Hulk scene is when Bruce first becomes the Hulk in the 2003 version and trashes the lab.

There's all kinds of debate back and forth between the '03 and '08 films, and what's been done with the character since, but none of that is the real problem. Hulk is basically a werewolf story - regular guy turns into monster when conditions are met, doesn't remember what he did during that time, tries to resolve his problem. There's only so many times/ways you can tell that story with the same character/actor. Studio/production issues aside, the way they used him through the MCU was probably the best compromise.

Great writing and great vo

on the whole, I think they managed to have a really successful show, one way or the other, without becoming gross, hackneyed, or banal - a rare feat, that, I'm sure, took a lot of work :)

Werewolf by Night Special Presentation definitely showed the concept of human dealing with a monster persona really well and can be format of how Hulk should be done right

0:50 "only 5 years", that's longer than any Marvel Studios TV show except Agents of SHIELD.

I was today old when I learnt that the Villian in Eric Banners movie was the Absorbing Man

2:30 if you listen to the movie commentary Ang Lee explains that the Hulk design is based on a toddler

The first film actually acknowledged that the madder he gets, the stronger he gets. There's a scene where he actually gets bigger and stronger. Anyone know what I'm talking about?

"The house ideas" 😂😂

Kevin Fiegi first messed up when he let go of Edward Norton

The 2008 Incredible Hulk is by FAR the best we ever gotten, and the closest to truly capture the essence of the Hulk, it's story and characters and is also a pretty underrated MCU Movie

Years ago one of the production team involved with the Ed Norton movie said that when they were writing the script, to keep it cost effective, a hulk movie needs to be about 70% Bruce and 30% Hulk, as that’s around the spot where costs start to become a major issue. Another issue is that the Hulk has never really had a epic comic book run…. He has had moments here and there, but his two major runs are basically Planet and World War Hulk, and those were basically 99% Hulk and Banner only making a fleeting appearance.

I’ve laid awake at night, asking myself that countless times lol

There are plot points in the MCU that could be used as seed for a full film. 18 months spent merging banner and hulk. A wizard knocking banners soul out of hulk and the two of them trying to work together to fix it. They just used them as 5 minute subplots

Hulk as well as Banner peaked with Norton’s portrayal in The Incredible Hulk. Granted it didn’t work out between him and the studio, but nothing Ruffalo’s done since has elevated or enhanced the character. If anything, Norton showed that he respected the lore and character, whereas Disney/Marvel/Ruffalo are doing anything they can to drag it all through the mud. It’s embarrassing what they’ve done to our boy

Its definitely possible after so many years the big green machine could of definitely had few movies by now as much as all these years have past

I'm sure now that Disney got the full rights back from Universal, we actually CAN get a decent solo flick. There's talk that the upcoming Captain America: New World Order is secretly a sequel to 2008's Incredible Hulk....

I appreciate WW Hulk, but the budget would be crazy. What I would truly love is an adaptation of Immortal Hulk. That’s maybe one of my favorite Hulk runs and ever. Really goes a lot deeper with Bruce and fleshes him out as not just some guy with a monster he can turn into, but someone suffering with DID and has several personalities inside of him, just itching to get out. Honestly would make for an incredible TV show and wouldn’t need a huge budget since a lot of the story is out Bruce

Incredible Hulk (2008) was the best Hulk movie/Hulk interpretation ever, period.

It would be a dream come true if Guillermo del Toro would direct a Hulk movie. He understands Monsters and Loves Jack kirby. Creator of the Marvel Universe.