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Why is Modern Art so Bad? | 5 Minute Video 

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For two millennia, great artists set the standard for beauty. Now those standards are gone. Modern art is a competition between the ugly and the twisted; the most shocking wins. What happened? How did the beautiful come to be reviled and bad taste come to be celebrated? Renowned artist Robert Florczak explains the history and the mystery behind this change and how it can be stopped and even reversed.
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"The Mona Lisa"... "The Pieta"... "The Girl with a Pearl Earring." For a score of centuries, artists enriched Western society with their works of astonishing beauty. "The Night Watch"... "The Thinker"... "The Rocky Mountains." Master after master, from Leonardo, to Rembrandt, to Bierstadt, produced works that inspired, uplifted, and deepened us. And they did this by demanding of themselves the highest standards of excellence, improving upon the work of each previous generation of masters, and continuing to aspire to the highest quality attainable.
But something happened on the way to the 20th Century. The profound, the inspiring and the beautiful were replaced by the new, the different, and the ugly. Today the silly, the pointless, and the purely offensive are held up as the best of modern art.
Michelangelo carved his "David" out of a rock. The Los Angeles County Museum of Art just offers us a rock, -- a rock -- all 340 tons of it. That's how far standards have fallen. How did this happen? How did the thousand-year ascent towards artistic perfection and excellence die out?
It didn't. It was pushed out. Beginning in the late 19th century, a group dubbed The Impressionists rebelled against the French Academie des Beaux Arts and its demand for classical standards. Whatever their intentions, the new modernists sowed the seeds of aesthetic relativism -- the "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" mentality.
Today everybody loves the Impressionists. And, as with most revolutions, the first generation or so produced work of genuine merit. Monet, Renoir, and Degas still maintained elements of disciplined design and execution, but with each new generation standards declined until there were no standards. All that was left was personal expression.
The great art historian Jacob Rosenberg wrote that quality in art "is not merely a matter of personal opinion but to a high degree . . . objectively traceable." But the idea of a universal standard of quality in art is now usually met with strong resistance if not open ridicule.
"How can art be objectively measured?" I'm challenged. In responding, I simply point to the artistic results produced by universal standards compared to what is produced by relativism. The former gave the world "The Birth of Venus" and "The Dying Gaul," while the latter has given us "The Holy Virgin Mary," fashioned with cow dung and pornographic images, and "Petra," the prize-winning sculpture of a policewoman squatting and urinating -- complete with a puddle of synthetic urine.
Without aesthetic standards we have no way to determine quality or inferiority. Here's a test I give my graduate students, all talented and well educated. Please analyze this Jackson Pollock painting and explain why it is good. It is only after they give very eloquent answers that I inform them that the painting is actually a close up of my studio apron. I don't blame them; I would probably have done the same since it's nearly impossible to differentiate between the two.
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Комментарии : 22 тыс.   
@onjimana
@onjimana 9 лет назад
Actually graffitis are better than modern "art".
@onjimana
@onjimana 9 лет назад
pennyfortheguy Yep still better.
@onjimana
@onjimana 9 лет назад
+warpatato hilarious tho xD
@onjimana
@onjimana 9 лет назад
pennyfortheguy That's the funny part. A mere vandalism is better than modern "art"
@stopmotionprimos
@stopmotionprimos 8 лет назад
Actually graffitis are modern art!!
@onjimana
@onjimana 8 лет назад
Primos Sanches You know nothing jon snow.
@PMeursault
@PMeursault 8 лет назад
so basically art's downfall is due to idiotic hipsterism
@Jaccobtw
@Jaccobtw 8 лет назад
You hit it right on the nail!
@itmademesignup9508
@itmademesignup9508 8 лет назад
One could make the argument that that is also the cause of the downfall of western civilization.
@FeVomTee
@FeVomTee 8 лет назад
+PMeursault Kind of. The video doesn't go into artists like Duchamp, Beuys and well, the invention of photography. When photography became accessible to people, the realistic depiction of our surroundings became less meaningful. Artists like the impressionists found new ways of looking, trying to get closer to the picture you (as an individual) see with your own eyes and build upon the imperfections of your own eye. The individual became important and with it the need to express something that is yours, that you claim. Also there was this whole discussion between curators and collectors about what art is and it was challenged by artists like Duchamp, who opened the term "art" up to all kinds of practices (he put a toilette in a museum). The artists didn't want to be held back by old ideals of beauty, especially when you can actually find beauty in a dumpster. Why all the effort and the elitist thinking if things that can make you think and feel can be simply found around us? Art was challenging it's own standards. Now they aren't gone, but pretty obscure. Ask any art student what good art is and the answer will be difficult. Or what art is at all. The discussion has actually become much more elitist, excluding all those people that will find themselves thinking "why is this white painting even called art?". The "art-scene" knows, but they live on their little island.
@Dudebox64
@Dudebox64 8 лет назад
+FeVomTee Photography =/= painting. Look at The Mona Lisa. Does it look anything like how it would have had she just been photographed?
@zarithevill
@zarithevill 8 лет назад
+PMeursault That's why scholarship students don't take Art, because it's dumb and useless unless they make modern art.
@sephorapiano9602
@sephorapiano9602 3 года назад
It’s bad cause they made sure that everyone could pass art school after WW2
@beanson2323
@beanson2323 3 года назад
Oh my God.....
@subifyouhatetiktokandreddit234
@subifyouhatetiktokandreddit234 3 года назад
(≧▽≦)
@afgor1088
@afgor1088 3 года назад
source...
@justinian1226
@justinian1226 3 года назад
@@afgor1088 Are you asking for the source?
@afgor1088
@afgor1088 3 года назад
@@justinian1226 yes
@Stormspinner
@Stormspinner 3 года назад
Modern art would be like releasing a music album consisting of the sounds your washing machine makes and then saying it's on par with Mozart.
@LynnePriceStudio
@LynnePriceStudio 3 года назад
Lolol.
@scoutgaming737
@scoutgaming737 3 года назад
That's exacly what pop music is
@elchucapablas
@elchucapablas 3 года назад
I think Taylor swifts music is very plain and musically simple. I don’t like it, but I’m sure she put time and effort into it. I think that’s how you can make the distinction here. Art = time, effort, research, sweat, actual work. Not art = washing machine sounds
@MichaelParktheFirst
@MichaelParktheFirst 3 года назад
@@scoutgaming737 pop music is very heavily engineered to evoke certain emotions and also be catchy. The producers and artists of these songs are well aware that they are making brainless music
@PeoplecallmeLucifer
@PeoplecallmeLucifer 3 года назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-sKZTdkvr4qo.html
@erikthegodeatingpenguin2335
@erikthegodeatingpenguin2335 8 лет назад
I once heard a story that someone dropped their coat in an art museum and everyone started crowding around it because they thought it was an exhibit. Eventually, some guy realized it was just a coat on the ground, but when he tried picking it up, some woman called security because he was "tampering with the art." Damn shameful.
@rachelracanelli6410
@rachelracanelli6410 8 лет назад
lol really? Even if it's not, that's just the best.
@erikthegodeatingpenguin2335
@erikthegodeatingpenguin2335 8 лет назад
Rachel Racanelli I found this story in another youtube comment, so probably about a 50/50 chance it's true, lol. And even if it isn't, it's not implausible.
@VaregianEisselor
@VaregianEisselor 8 лет назад
I heard the same story, but with glasses instead of a coat.
@bovo698
@bovo698 8 лет назад
Its not exactly a coat, nut I think its more shameful www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/may/27/pair-of-glasses-left-on-us-gallery-floor-mistaken-for-art
@rachelracanelli6410
@rachelracanelli6410 8 лет назад
lol well at least everyone had fun with it.
@Birkarl_
@Birkarl_ 7 лет назад
Memes are the true modern artform
@kalahatinggabi
@kalahatinggabi 7 лет назад
AlcoholicSmurf That would be sad. Putting some (probably misleading) statements on a background of existing artwork is a work of interpretation, not of authentic art.
@mynameisjack0618
@mynameisjack0618 7 лет назад
D681ZVJ I disagree. That isn't really what a meme is. According to Richard Dawkins, memes are the transmission of culture from one person to another. This is why one can see Advice Animals that use the impact front as a good meme, while others (including me) can appreciate something like an extremely meta and ironic shitpost.
@xstrawarot
@xstrawarot 7 лет назад
+Jackpatkinson4 *clap* *clap* *clap* *clap* *clap* *clap* *clap* *clap* : ' )
@saltboi6374
@saltboi6374 7 лет назад
*slap slap slap slap slap slap slap slap*
@Atma505
@Atma505 7 лет назад
honestly? yeah
@garrytalaroc
@garrytalaroc 2 года назад
There was this activity in our school where we draw any art we could put in a single paper and explain it in front why you drew that. Then there's this person came to the front, in her paper there was nothing in it. She said it represents her life being boring and empty and explains more, i didn't listen. She passed the activity. And she later confessed to me she forgot the homework.
@kishascape
@kishascape Год назад
Proof that it’s a scam. She’s a smart girl, should’ve boned her.
@ojinavi
@ojinavi Год назад
smart
@wwmandalore
@wwmandalore Год назад
Some things are so stupid only an 'intellectual' can understand it.
@methuselahhoneysuckass
@methuselahhoneysuckass 11 месяцев назад
now that’s art
@NikoCigoj
@NikoCigoj 9 месяцев назад
The art of excuses
@whitedragon9731
@whitedragon9731 4 года назад
“I suppose this hideous monstrosity is what you call modern art?” “No, sir. We call that a mirror.”
@Pavilion411
@Pavilion411 3 года назад
god damn it
@LazyLoonz
@LazyLoonz 3 года назад
Lol
@Metalkid1500
@Metalkid1500 2 года назад
😂😂😂
@Apollo_Blaze
@Apollo_Blaze 2 года назад
Very Good!!...thats usually the case.
@TheMedicatedArtist
@TheMedicatedArtist 7 лет назад
It's because of modern art that people cringe when you tell them you're an Art major.
@TheMedicatedArtist
@TheMedicatedArtist 7 лет назад
It's why I'm going into animation; it's one of the few art forms that still has standards. Seriously, a white painted canvas?!
@edwardhoffenheim3249
@edwardhoffenheim3249 7 лет назад
+Radioactive Panda White painted canvas? GENIOUS!!!
@iamimiPod
@iamimiPod 7 лет назад
My "favourite" example of modern art is the toilet. Someone bought a toilet from a store and put it on a pedestal and said: "this is art now."
@saiyanmeow9028
@saiyanmeow9028 7 лет назад
seriously, this is what ppl get paid for......da fuk with learning anatomy and the other complexities of studying art...where's my nearest home depot!?
@ztrinx1
@ztrinx1 7 лет назад
That is NOT why people cringe; people cringe because, just like when somebody tells you that they want to be an actor, supply and demand do not match.
@lavacorpseman6836
@lavacorpseman6836 5 лет назад
You'll know if an "art" is garbage when the artist needs to explain why it's good.
@DiamondButter
@DiamondButter 5 лет назад
sheer cardiac arrest has no discrepancies Why is your profile picture a cat with Yugi’s hair and holding a mirror force? Well whatever the reason it’s absolutely amazing!
@VictoriaStahlecker
@VictoriaStahlecker 5 лет назад
@@DiamondButter why not
@DiamondButter
@DiamondButter 5 лет назад
FuzzoFoxxo Well when I was typing my reply, I actually put, “Well I guess a better question would be why not.” And then I changed it. And it is really a better question though. Why would there be a reason not to have such a masterpiece of a profile picture?
@VictoriaStahlecker
@VictoriaStahlecker 5 лет назад
@@DiamondButter why are we going full philosophical about a silly pfp? why not!!!
@DiamondButter
@DiamondButter 5 лет назад
FuzzoFoxxo Exactly!
@jonathanjohnjohnson
@jonathanjohnjohnson 3 года назад
"I call this one Bold and Brash" "More like Belongs in the Trash!"
@brickabang
@brickabang 3 года назад
“And it deserves quite a strong bash”
@DK-tv6rk
@DK-tv6rk 3 года назад
Haha
@PeoplecallmeLucifer
@PeoplecallmeLucifer 3 года назад
I mean more people are gonna recognise Bold and brash than the sculpture we've seen in that episode
@Vincent-yx7tg
@Vincent-yx7tg 3 года назад
Ok but that art atleast had something to show.... What can a rock show you? No expression nor emotions, just a rock
@PeoplecallmeLucifer
@PeoplecallmeLucifer 3 года назад
@@Vincent-yx7tg I mean I do find just putting a rock in the museum kinda silly but IMO art is in the eyes of the beholder. If someone finds it artistic I have no problem with that ... I'll still call it silly Also "who's afraid of red yellow and blue" is a series of paintings made out of 3 colours only and people who hate modern art went so far to try and destroy it .... and for all of its simplicity of just being a 3 coloured canvas ..... the restoration failed. people were able to see that it's not the original. So saying there's no effort in modern art is also not correct Or it'd be liek saying one of my favourite Horror games, Concluse, isn't a real horror games because nothing chases you and there's no jumpscares
@garou9914
@garou9914 Год назад
The modern art community are also one of the most pretentious and elitist groups you'll see. They act like they're better than everyone because they "appreciate" a blank canvas and would demonize you if you don't. It kinda goes totally against the real reason why the movement existed and that's to have personal self expression..now pretty much every modern artist does the same thing, think the same way and anyone who disagrees or tries something that doesn't follow their values is heavily criticized. It's just like it used to be, but instead of appreciation for something that actually took effort and talent we appreciate garbage only made to make money and nothing else. Art stopped being an expression of self and being valuable on it's own and became just like any other product with the only value to it is the price tag next to it.
@Mike__G
@Mike__G 10 месяцев назад
Yep. They desire above all to be unconventional. But they are totally conventional in their rebellion against beauty and technique.
@es0022
@es0022 9 месяцев назад
But if we are tslking about today's artists, don't they fall under the "contemporary art" period? I thought modern art was up until the end of WWII
@RealDude0o191
@RealDude0o191 8 месяцев назад
I am seeing elitism in these comments lmao dummies
@P-qk2tz
@P-qk2tz 7 месяцев назад
Guaranteed this person doesn’t know a single person in the modern art community. Guaranteed this person demonstrated incredible arrogance and a lack of understanding of the historical context of lots of these pieces before demonising them
@xStarblazer
@xStarblazer 5 месяцев назад
@@P-qk2tzthe historical context is irrelevant, they’re all terrible. The art world lost any leg they could stand on when they started claiming useless hacks like Basquiat had talent Lmao.
@Nobody98456
@Nobody98456 5 лет назад
I make "modern" art every time i go on the toilet . I call it *Yesterday's past*
@wandamaximoff7495
@wandamaximoff7495 5 лет назад
Rich's Soul true 😂
@vxy357
@vxy357 5 лет назад
Gross joke. But a good one I might add.
@user-mc6zk8tc8c
@user-mc6zk8tc8c 5 лет назад
Omg!! 😂 I literally laughed!!
@nightvisiongoggles
@nightvisiongoggles 5 лет назад
Call MoMA, you will be the next Rodin! :D
@larrylinn8589
@larrylinn8589 5 лет назад
Well you have sh*t for brains!
@Mercure250
@Mercure250 8 лет назад
I have modern art all over my walls. 'Cause my walls are white.
@Mercure250
@Mercure250 8 лет назад
+Mercure250 I see alot of people shocked by this video. But please...a rock, a work of art? Even the least art-talented miner or geologist could've come with this, come on!
@xXMegaUltraNinjaXx
@xXMegaUltraNinjaXx 8 лет назад
+Mercure250 RU-vid is also white WAIT NO THIS MUST BE THE UPRISING OF THE CIS WHITE MALE PATRIARCHY!!! wait false alarm that doesn't exist.
@ilsaalsi857
@ilsaalsi857 8 лет назад
+Mercure250 is it really about who comes up with what? do you need special qualifications to be an artist? why don't you tell us why the LACMA piece is so bad, and don't just say 'it's a rock'.
@Mercure250
@Mercure250 8 лет назад
Eamon Campbell-June *instructions unclear* It's a rock
@IlValentino100
@IlValentino100 8 лет назад
+Eamon Campbell-June variation makes the life a joy. we want to see things we have never seen before. we can see stones all day. a stone doesnt help the hunger of our eyes. a piece of art, something so difficult to create that we never seen before, that inspires us, that makes life greater!
@tysfalsehood
@tysfalsehood 3 года назад
So in short, don't challenge your preconceptions of what art is, and stay comfortable. How incredibly thoughtful.
@constellation7334
@constellation7334 3 года назад
exactly.
@happynewyear6240
@happynewyear6240 3 года назад
This video is kinda lazy tbh. It does not really provoke you to further reflect or challege the "norm" that is of this rubbish modern culture. It just told you that "yes it's trash, i hereby confirm your doubt which has actually been a trendy critique of modern art since the last two decades buuuuut i'm gonna make it sounds like its a groundbreaking notion. Anyway don't buy their crap, don't think, don't engage, just laugh at it, sit back and enjoy the comedy, as you have always did. Wank wank." Alsothe way he compare "classical art" to "modern art" reminds me of those critique who gave the condescending names to Impressionism or Les Fauves because they challenge the idea of conventional, bourgeoisie aesthetic then. Ironic much. Not saying that modern art is not trash ( actually, modern art wasn't, contemporary art is, but i doubt those who rushed to agree with this video would even care about the difference between modern and contemporary art), just disappointed to find yet another not so insightful "enlightment" with (rather ignorant and equally lazy- thinking) people cheering in its comment section.
@DJ-sr9gp
@DJ-sr9gp 3 года назад
You want to know who also had these same thoughts about art? Actually, the Nazi's. They created an art show called the "Degenerate Art Show" in which viewers over 18 were invited to laugh and scoff at new challenging art ideas that had been revered in museums for years. Yeah, then they burned most of it. This sort of ideology this professor is presenting is just about the same thing the Nazi party viewed, and it's regressive and disappointing to see. It's laughable how close conservatism gets to 1930's Germany.
@thecriticalfox1403
@thecriticalfox1403 3 года назад
Did he say it in the video or you're projecting your opinions?
@user-dy7ls7uo9j
@user-dy7ls7uo9j 3 года назад
@@happynewyear6240 contemporary art isn’t all the same
@Haal96
@Haal96 3 года назад
You could splash 3 types of paint on a canvas and become the number 1 best artist of all time but you can paint the mona lisa so good and people will just say "meh"
@grieferoncamera4600
@grieferoncamera4600 3 года назад
;(
@jessstapf426
@jessstapf426 2 года назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-67EKAIY43kg.html
@hot-cocoa1032
@hot-cocoa1032 2 года назад
someones already done the mona lisa. try harder
@Haal96
@Haal96 2 года назад
@@hot-cocoa1032 ok ill throw a paint bucket on a canvas and become richer then elon musk
@hot-cocoa1032
@hot-cocoa1032 2 года назад
@@Haal96 cool. you are original now
@KristyJean
@KristyJean 8 лет назад
I think art reflects how society is changing and where it's going. So..
@elilla331
@elilla331 8 лет назад
+ThereGoesKJ Into the shitter?
@smithjonson1634
@smithjonson1634 8 лет назад
+elilla331 true.
@j001m4l3370n3
@j001m4l3370n3 8 лет назад
+ThereGoesKJ I agree
@smithjonson1634
@smithjonson1634 8 лет назад
Atakan Basol It wasn't the only thing that they were painting, don't be so narrow minded.
@gheaescobin7444
@gheaescobin7444 8 лет назад
I agree.
@daveygivens735
@daveygivens735 5 лет назад
Modern art is the equivalent of everyone gets a trophy.
@Stormkrow280
@Stormkrow280 5 лет назад
“Beauty is in the eye of the beholder” meaning that no one piece is going to please everyone and that we shouldn’t base our taste in art based on the thoughts of a select group of “experts”
@daveygivens735
@daveygivens735 5 лет назад
Wow, that was deep. I'd still rather gaze upon a Botticelli for an entire year than spend 30 seconds looking at "piss christ" @@Stormkrow280
@cyruswang9354
@cyruswang9354 5 лет назад
Put shit in a glass case and you get art
@benjaminpark5460
@benjaminpark5460 5 лет назад
Kamen... ...Reaper, I’m sorry I couldn’t spell you whole name, I agree. Van Gohg’s ‘Irises’ is my favorite piece I’ve ever seen. It is breathtaking and personal. It is on display at the Getty in LA last I checked. In LA I went to a modern art display and (quite literally) laughed as I walked around the exhibit at the Broad Museum. It was absolutely a joke. But if I could defend, we find modern art disposable and clearly lacking in skill. Yet this is simply a dark time for art. Let’s not forget that during the dark ages they painted on wood boards in ludicrous ways that do not resemble the human form, also on view at the Getty (seriously I can’t recommend the museum enough). Art will return to its exceptional form as it always does. If you hate it. Hate it. I do... but to determine what is art by rules will ruin the next Picasso, the next Leonardo Da Vinci, shun what this is but don’t determine what art is. Because one thing does hold true. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. And that, no matter what people try to do, will change. Sorry for the rant.
@BxBL85
@BxBL85 5 лет назад
I was about to write exactly this..
@CCoburn3
@CCoburn3 4 года назад
I went to the Hirshhorn Museum of modern art. There I found that my 16-year-old son was a great artist -- there was a dirty bedroom set up in one nook of the museum and praised as "great art." There was a single string of clear Christmas lights hanging from the ceiling in another exhibit. Things went from bad to worse. The funniest thing was that they had armed guards to protect the "art." I asked one of them if they really thought someone would steal a messy bedroom. He just rolled his eyes...
@aori583
@aori583 3 года назад
Is this really true? I need to know a way to sell my bedroom...
@cronchybo
@cronchybo 3 года назад
I think I know the artist/artwork you are talking about, but I forgot who she is. if my assumption is correct, that piece is actually about the artists depression and is what her bedroom looked like at that time. it is a representation of herself and her room at her darkest moments. I believe that anything can be art, if you put artistic expression behind it.
@jamssy3409
@jamssy3409 3 года назад
Agree with the reply above me. Art needs context sometimes.
@shrishikesh2292
@shrishikesh2292 3 года назад
@@jamssy3409 i took a shit. It was hard. It was tight. It was messy. It was smelly. But it was soft. Do you care to buy it
@Ultimateharen
@Ultimateharen 2 года назад
@@shrishikesh2292 flush it n take a deep breath
@joshuaallgood7030
@joshuaallgood7030 Год назад
This video made me realize that the anti-SJW community was being co-opted by conservatives.
@TheManinBlack9054
@TheManinBlack9054 Год назад
i mean anti-SJW people were always conservative? You thought people who talked about how games are too liberal because of women were liberals?
@araposkulo
@araposkulo 9 лет назад
I remember reading this story on the paper: A janitor working at an Art Museum was cleaning the place and he noticed an ashtray and a couple of half-filled cups of coffee, so he did his job and threw everything to the garbage. Turns out that was "art" (I think the artist is called Horst) and it was supposed to represent an artist's studio......
@bballboy467
@bballboy467 8 лет назад
+egw esu his name was actually Hirst
@vOddy75
@vOddy75 8 лет назад
+egw esu He was doing his job, though - taking out garbage.
@bballboy467
@bballboy467 8 лет назад
vOddy75 sad but true haha
@sugarpop7377
@sugarpop7377 8 лет назад
How can work together to make everyone realise that the emperor has no clothes ? Modern art is rubbish .
@henrylarson1
@henrylarson1 8 лет назад
+egw esu Art Critique: How does this urinal made by Marcel Duchamp make you feel, what does it represent from today society? Me: Piss!
@anonymus-2005
@anonymus-2005 4 года назад
So my drawings are not lame, they're just modern.
@gypsygypsy7185
@gypsygypsy7185 4 года назад
Another word for dumbdowned by society to make us useless while they howne are crafts
@beldiman5870
@beldiman5870 4 года назад
Thats the beautyof modern art, everyone can do it, everyone can make a lame drawing and pretend its art. Anyone who does not understand the beauty of the (lame) drawing is stupid or uncultivated or ignorant or maybe simply jealous :)
@angelicakemmish8868
@angelicakemmish8868 4 года назад
LOL. good one.
@larrylinn8589
@larrylinn8589 4 года назад
Why doesn’t Florczak define modern art? If anyone is going to lecture on a subject, they should define the subject. Why doesn’t he even mention, let alone address Post-Modernism?
@_cyrille
@_cyrille 4 года назад
same.
@Nadie47
@Nadie47 3 года назад
Why did you just show that fake graph lol
@Nadie47
@Nadie47 3 года назад
@@ronnelechavez >Proceeds to provide zero citations for their graphs Heck, even they don't provide sources. Also, what's with your weird comment?
@free4fire
@free4fire 9 лет назад
Yeah, there is a good reason why I rather look at art done for Magic the Gathering than any modern art in a museum.
@Shawnmyrelle
@Shawnmyrelle 9 лет назад
Sad that drawings on cards destroy modern art. Ever really look at the artwork of Star Eater? its amazing. Or even concept art of anime backgrounds like Blazblue. Breathtaking.
@outsidespac3
@outsidespac3 9 лет назад
+free4fire because you're a bit thick perchance?
@free4fire
@free4fire 9 лет назад
+Tool9395 Why yes thank you! You know what they say, length isn't everything. ;)
@DusBeforeDawn2008
@DusBeforeDawn2008 9 лет назад
+Tool9395 www.google.co.uk/search?q=best+magic+the+gathering+art&biw=1067&bih=533&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAWoVChMItYetzuDHxwIVBhbbCh1CEQAY#imgrc=NruVd-l-qCHjkM%3A But yeah the rock and blank white painting are totally better
@jimakisspd
@jimakisspd 9 лет назад
+free4fire Magic the gathering, anime and all this fantasy art is all that survives from art if you ask me. But I wonder could this style exist in traditional classical art from antiquity to Renaissance with the colours and deepness but we have just lost them?? I am sure there is a tradition!!!
@chimpwimp9407
@chimpwimp9407 5 лет назад
"Bold and brash..." "More like...belongs in the trash."
@qq3088
@qq3088 5 лет назад
You reposted in the wrong university
@abig_old_swan
@abig_old_swan 5 лет назад
I like your rhymes, but I don't like your choice of artistic philosophy.
@gustavocring1914
@gustavocring1914 5 лет назад
Spongebob Squarepants' reference
@charlizard3011
@charlizard3011 5 лет назад
"Sorry, I must have missed that one." *Drops it in the garbage
@UnidentifiedMorgue
@UnidentifiedMorgue 5 лет назад
Chimp Wimp more like stays out of the trash I would pay money to see daddy bold 😍😍
@BasedTexans
@BasedTexans Год назад
The people in the comments trying to rationalize why modern art doesn't suck is the funniest part. 😂
@lostgarbage4055
@lostgarbage4055 Год назад
It doesn't suck because it has no mouth to do so, duh.
@jcarp6335
@jcarp6335 Год назад
I’d say rationalizing using hatred of modern art as a way to assert the superiority of white European culture as anything other than a rebranding of Hitler’s fascist denunciation of what he called “degenerate art” pretty funny.
@lostgarbage4055
@lostgarbage4055 Год назад
@@jcarp6335 "You dislike modern art, must be because you support H*tl3r" is the most left-wing quote I've ever heard.
@jcarp6335
@jcarp6335 Год назад
@@lostgarbage4055 Well that would be a foolish and inflammatory thing to say. Good thing no one said that. Let me know if you care to respond to what I actually did say.
@user-xz4cl9ms3n
@user-xz4cl9ms3n Год назад
@@jcarp6335 Stupid
@laurabrand6167
@laurabrand6167 4 года назад
You guys know that just because we say that art is subjective it doesn’t mean that you have to like every and any art piece, it means that you should not throw away or stop people from doing art just because of your personal opinions, but rather respect the creative freedom of people and anyone who values those art pieces. There’s enough space in art for loads of different forms to be equally respected
@Dr-Curious
@Dr-Curious 3 года назад
But these people are looking for ways to express superiority - so they desperately attempt to create scalar value in aesthetic contexts. It's all they know. So, they don't truly see beauty or innate expression when they see art, they have to have "reasons" to express their approval in case they approve of the "wrong thing". So sad. Most artists were and are trying to show us how futile and vacuous that kind of existence is.
@kirbydied2875
@kirbydied2875 3 года назад
They are free to do what they please, but somehow art that's just a blank canvas or a normal rock gets sold for millions. That's just unfair, and most of these art pieces that a majority don't think is art are simply there to send a message or statement, not to actually appease to the eyes while also sending a message. An artist should be capable of doing both things
@laurabrand6167
@laurabrand6167 3 года назад
@@kirbydied2875 in YOUR opinion, art is not there to satisfy you, an artist when doing their work doesn't have to just make it look pretty, art can be whatever the person doing it wants it to be. And about the prices that some of those works get sold, I particularly don't believe the price of something defines if it's good or bad, but also there are several different reasons why someone might buy a piece of work, maybe they like artist, maybe they just want something new to put in their living room or maybe they genuinely like that piece, then again the price of something doesn't define its value, and to be honest you shouldn't worry what people do to their money if it's not harming anyone.
@kirbydied2875
@kirbydied2875 3 года назад
@@laurabrand6167 the people who buy blank canvases for millions are dumb. You can't change my mind. Use that money for charity
@Dr-Curious
@Dr-Curious 3 года назад
@@kirbydied2875 The art world certainly attracts fakers and opportunists. The "wealthy" subset will always have many people who are insecure, bland and unskilled enough to follow narratives that give inflated value to things. But what is value in reality anyway? Once you have what you need to survive, it's perceived "need" and "want" in most cases. With freedom, come pros and cons. We have to try to let fools be fools, because we all might find out we match other people's definitions of fool. PragerU is a mindset that doesn't allow for this, because it's ideologies are really based on self flattery and self serving veiled as nobleness.
@Simon-xi7lb
@Simon-xi7lb 8 лет назад
Right now, I can tell you that art is flourishing online, and there are many hundreds of pieces I could find with a quick google that I'd prefer over modern, or even classical, art. Modern is trash, and classical was sometimes limited by the era. I find it highly offensive that this crap is pawned off as "Modern" art when there are many true artists out there working hard at their craft.
@nicolaiholmstoel6546
@nicolaiholmstoel6546 8 лет назад
+Simon H. I could not agree with you more!
@1000HolyPlaces
@1000HolyPlaces 8 лет назад
+Simon H. While I agree that there are lots of great artists to be found online and such, that isn't quite what he's talking about. He's talking about what we glorify in our museums and galleries -- what ought to be the highest houses of art. The great stuff we find online isn't being displayed there. That artwork doesn't sell for millions, like the so-called "art" too often featured in museums today. Bear in mind that "modern art" is not just a matter of what is currently being produced, it is the name of an art movement as well, which is what he's discussing.
@wonjaehwang7670
@wonjaehwang7670 8 лет назад
Can you give me some examples of what you prefer just curious (;
@sammariofan
@sammariofan 8 лет назад
Preach it!
@seyi6295
@seyi6295 8 лет назад
+Simon H. "Modern" art refers to the timeperiod it was encouraged in. There's a difference between "modern' (ie, the 50s) and "contemporary" (ie, now)
@marticon666
@marticon666 4 года назад
"You're so ugly you could be a modern art masterpiece!" There is a reason that quote exists.
@rocko0214
@rocko0214 4 года назад
Somebody get this man all the beer. ALL OF IT.
@acadia5898
@acadia5898 4 года назад
"There is always the problem of being misquoted or, what's even worse, of being quoted exactly" even the guy who made that quote would probably disagree with you.
@marticon666
@marticon666 4 года назад
@@acadia5898 My point is, that quote is an insult and it works, because the majority of modern art is objectively ugly as hell. The pieces that are beautiful don't get any appreciation, because modern art critiques are morons.
@derelictgbdavidlovo107
@derelictgbdavidlovo107 4 года назад
marticon666 There are plenty of modern artists creating beautiful works, the art world is so vast and unique that if you can’t find anything good you simply aren’t looking hard enough. The media sensationalizes lazy work that sells for millions because it gives people who know nothing about art something to be mad about. There’s merit to work that doesn’t aim to capture the real world, and throughout history art movements tended to be direct responses to whatever’s popular. If you want examples of modern masters who are still successful, there’s people like John Currin, Takashi Murakami, Abdulnasser Gharem, even graffiti artists like Banksy. Point is there’s so much from all different parts of the world that saying “all modern art is bad” (and technically these would be post modern, modern art would include works like Starry Night but whatever) is pretty ignorant.
@marticon666
@marticon666 4 года назад
@@derelictgbdavidlovo107 Yes, but the works by the artists you mentioned CAN be classified as art. With Currin i see the expression of human imperfection, with Murakami we see a stylistic expression of character with rounded shapes and bright colors, Gharem's works from what i saw, are based on geometric shapes with middle eastern influences and Banksy conveys messages trough realistic paintings, using pure black and white with, red for emphasising a point. With van Gogh's Starry Night you instantly understand what it is, even without painted detail or being given it's name. Not all art, made in modern times falls in the category of modern art. I'm sorry, but if you put three lines of color or a bunch or random, colored squiggles on a canvas, that doesn't make it art, no matter how many galleries say otherwise. If we can't tell the difference between a modern art painting and something drawn by a toddler in five minutes with a crayon, than it doesn't deserve to be put in a gallery or sold for millions of dollars.
@hannahdarise
@hannahdarise 3 года назад
Okay but hear me out, who said that the point of art is to be "good" and to please everyone? Music is an art form and yet much of it we call "bad music". This is because music, like art, is subjective. Some people love The Beatles while other people may say they are the worst. Not everyone loves and agrees that The Mona Lisa is amazing art. I think it's boring personally. Art is made to make us feel things, even if somethings that feeling is anger, confusion, or disappointment.
@daisyreyes3256
@daisyreyes3256 3 года назад
I think he is talking about the skill set of the artist not the liking of the people for the art work...
@alt4art857
@alt4art857 3 года назад
Art is something whose primary concern isn't beauty but expression of something but there are geniuses who tape bananas to a canvas calling it art
@mingluke12
@mingluke12 3 года назад
Well, many people have really low taste and would appreciate low quality art and then it becomes a trend. As generation goes, we’ll only have low quality arts. Doesn’t it mean civilization is decline?
@kylecobb3346
@kylecobb3346 3 года назад
I understand what you’re saying and agree to an extent. I myself enjoy the aesthetic of something like a Jackson pollock painting. The problem is when people aclaim that type of stuff to be “genius” or “extravagant” and sell it for enormous amounts of money when in reality it’s just some paint splattered on a canvas that could have just as easily been done by a toddler. Hence the example he used in the video about tricking his students to thinking his apron was a painting
@deargatekeeper
@deargatekeeper 2 года назад
its not that deep but i guess being pretentious is the charm of it
@aarni4819
@aarni4819 3 года назад
ahh yes lets try to make an objective conclusion on an entirely subjective thing. Nice thinking pragerU 🙄
@PeoplecallmeLucifer
@PeoplecallmeLucifer 3 года назад
thinking of art objectively is like trying to suvive a nuke by hiding in a fridge
@Igyzone
@Igyzone 3 года назад
@@PeoplecallmeLucifer isn't this exactly what Indiana Jones did?
@PeoplecallmeLucifer
@PeoplecallmeLucifer 3 года назад
@@Igyzone yeah, that's why I took that example
@eviaxus7488
@eviaxus7488 8 лет назад
What you are fighting for is craft, not art.
@eviaxus7488
@eviaxus7488 8 лет назад
***** Beauty is completely subjective, someone might find construction site noise beautiful because it gives him the impression of the outside world and how it's alive. Also, Art doesn't necessarily mean beauty, have you ever seen the work of Goya called "Saturn devouring his son"? No "sane" person would call that beauty yet Goya is considered as one of the greats in the art world. something doesn't have to be "beautiful" to be art.
@n_7458
@n_7458 8 лет назад
Thank you!
@oksanagermakovski8080
@oksanagermakovski8080 8 лет назад
+Eviaxus I wonder if he WAS completely sane. He went deaf later in life and had to witness the devastation of war. His later paintings were different from his earlier works, many of them scary and ugly.
@kylelussier7323
@kylelussier7323 8 лет назад
+Eviaxus Please stop playing semantics.
@alisilcox6036
@alisilcox6036 8 лет назад
You know, artis means craft in Latin. He's fighting for art. Post-modern art is often mostly philosophy, sometimes bad philosophy, but craftsmanship is often also important, though, so his point is invalid. Perhaps a distinction between craftsmanship and intellectual value needs to be made, but the idea that quality in modern art is objectively getting sparser is ludicrous- it's a statement that fails to grasp the terms "quality", "modern art" and "objective".
@bullsquid42
@bullsquid42 9 лет назад
Yes and no. Generally speaking I'd say not all modern art sucks. But the art that sells usually does. The main problem to me seems to be that art has become completly inaccessible for regular people. The art community is this totally elitist and self-congratulatory club of art teachers, rich investors and hipsters. What's the point of your piece of art having a message if the public never sees or gets it?
@RaveRiot2Night
@RaveRiot2Night 9 лет назад
^you aren't very smart are you?
@bullsquid42
@bullsquid42 9 лет назад
John Hayden That's a difficult question. How would I know if I wasn't smart? I assume it takes a smart man to know a smart man. However, maybe you wish to elaborate why you think I'm stupid. I tried to explain as well as I could how I agree and/or disagree with the statement of the video. I expect if you did the same we could probably have an actual conversation. That is if I'm not too far below you.
@dexterlecter7289
@dexterlecter7289 9 лет назад
It all sucks.
@paulhallart
@paulhallart 9 лет назад
Dexter Lecter pretty much ...
@paulhallart
@paulhallart 9 лет назад
Forge, either you got it backwards or you are a part of the propaganda organ of the the one percent that might be using NSA fiber optic wire-tapping to spy on the entrepreneurs. You can't use a gym until you LEARN (or "knit") the EQUIPMENT. So learnen this, all of you: it is not the modern art, but WHAT YOU DO WITH the modern art. The public wants to press 200 pounds to show off in the gym, therefore they as well as you, remain lost in the international city system of the left brain...
@robertgallagher7734
@robertgallagher7734 Год назад
Classical art inspires nearly all who see it- modern art is an inside joke to the snobbish who wish to divide us.
@antelopefreeway214
@antelopefreeway214 11 месяцев назад
This whole video was about dividing us on what we "should" and shouldn't call art. No room for other points of view but that of the righteous host "expert."
@HeyDudeYouSuck
@HeyDudeYouSuck 5 месяцев назад
Ok, I agree with you a bit. But that doesn't mean every modern art piece is bad! Just take a look at other modern artists, look for a little while. If you find one that you really like, maybe you'd understand that it's not all that bad. Just avoid the ones that play the game for ze moneh.
@EricByDefinition
@EricByDefinition 2 года назад
There are so many different branches of modern art besides avant-garde/dadaism, but since this is a PragerU video, I shouldn't have expected more than low-hanging fruit. An honest critique of Picasso, Dali, Kahlo, O'Keeffe a bit beyond your reach?
@kimberly2075
@kimberly2075 2 года назад
Oh no, are your feelings hurt eric?
@tekkahusk8042
@tekkahusk8042 2 года назад
@@kimberly2075 nice substantive reply to his reasonable critiques of a bad video. are your feelings hurt?
@tekkahusk8042
@tekkahusk8042 2 года назад
@G C that's your subjective opinion, period.
@joshuabrown1300
@joshuabrown1300 2 года назад
@@tekkahusk8042 why do you feel that way?
@tekkahusk8042
@tekkahusk8042 2 года назад
@G C I will enjoy my modern, you enjoy gawking at other people for enjoying something null brain
@TheThreatenedSwan
@TheThreatenedSwan 7 лет назад
Modern art isn't very popular though. Modern art museums continue to underperform when compared to classical art museums
@MrLTiger
@MrLTiger 7 лет назад
my step-brother's girlfriend works at a museum, and many schools visit the place. Kids have not been brainwashed by academia and are unbiased; they appreciate the truly beautiful, and find most modern art to be "ugly" and "stupid". In a way, they are smarter than the art teachers who are trying to convince themselves that garbage is art.
@TheThreatenedSwan
@TheThreatenedSwan 7 лет назад
MrLTiger Well generation Z is much more right wing, thank god
@04nbod
@04nbod 7 лет назад
Well yes, you'd line up for hours to see the Mona Lisa or the Sistine Chapel. You are not going to do that for a rock
@foxcheetah6035
@foxcheetah6035 7 лет назад
Umm, Museum of Modern Art anyone?
@gallowglass719
@gallowglass719 7 лет назад
And thank goodness for that.
@steveors.g.applebee6854
@steveors.g.applebee6854 7 лет назад
My definition of great art is very simple: If I can do it, it's NOT great art.
@drekirules
@drekirules 7 лет назад
you made my second point for me, some people can appreciate but don't really care for hard-to-make art because for them the art is about the idea, if it looks easy to make that doesn't mean that the artist hasn't broken his brain over it for half a year wich makes it hard to make, in my opinion (not saying that's always the case) I am also not saying you should love it, but that's why they put easy-to-make art in a gallery and label it art
@drekirules
@drekirules 7 лет назад
also bs commercialism and stuff
@SahilPawar95
@SahilPawar95 7 лет назад
Does it evoke an emotional response in you or someone else looking at it? If yes,then what's the harm in calling it art.
@steveors.g.applebee6854
@steveors.g.applebee6854 7 лет назад
That's a good start, but watching a butcher work would evoke an emotional response for a lot of people as well.
@sookl7225
@sookl7225 7 лет назад
*insert Trebuchet meme* but....but....a trebuchet can launch a 95 kilogram stone projectile over 300 meters!!!!!
@ChevailerHere
@ChevailerHere Год назад
this is unintentionally the greatest display of what fascism is in its most pure form. a fear of the new, a disdain of individual expression, and a demand to conform to tradition. well done, PragerU, I will be citing this video everytime someone asks me "what is fascism?". You've given them a clear answer
@bonifackener8026
@bonifackener8026 Год назад
Lmao cope harder
@mojolmao1752
@mojolmao1752 Год назад
Okay so I can take a shit at best buy and thats not “art” right?
@MitskiExceptItsMiku
@MitskiExceptItsMiku Год назад
@@bonifackener8026 mfs be like "contemporary art bad" and, even if you don't like more abstract art, you do realize quite literally all artists rn are "contemporary artists" right? Furry artists, concept artists, and all that stuff is contemporary art. you don't need to like a specific genre of art that's fine, but its willfully ignorant to act like the only art in modern art is just abstract/performative art, and declaring a whole era bad based off one style.
@HeyDudeYouSuck
@HeyDudeYouSuck 5 месяцев назад
Facism? That's a bit of a stretch, but considering that they added WW2 stuff in the vid, maybe.
@Flaaroni
@Flaaroni 4 месяца назад
"Standards declined until there were no standards and reduced to personal expression." So art was reduced to art? I'm all for that
@AkaiKnight
@AkaiKnight 9 лет назад
The whole Modern Art argument seems to boil down to *"It has a secret meaning, so regardless of its actual quality or skill to make it still has value"* Thats bullshit because you can literally bestow some hidden meaning to ANYTHING. Just because you give meaning to something doesn't mean its suddenly valuable.
@ThaliaLemon
@ThaliaLemon 9 лет назад
Then your issue is with high art marketing, not the work itself. Hate the game, don't hate the player.
@AkaiKnight
@AkaiKnight 9 лет назад
***** My issue is what constitutes work? If what I said basically qualifies, then as I said it can be applied to anything. A definition that can be applied to anything is a meaningless definition. it doesn't categorize or sort anything into meaning. So whats the point?
@TheRealTaco87
@TheRealTaco87 9 лет назад
My back moles are art. They represent the cancer of modern society within me...or just cancer. IT'S FUCKING ART THOUGH!
@christophercrane2323
@christophercrane2323 9 лет назад
***** Why not both?
@Dcook85
@Dcook85 9 лет назад
***** I agree.
@joshscorcher
@joshscorcher 9 лет назад
UGH! I know this man's pain! Google "Voice of Fire." IT'S JUST TWO BLUE STRIPES AND ONE RED STRIPE, and it sold for MILLIONS OF DOLLARS?!
@JadeMatrix
@JadeMatrix 9 лет назад
***** Of all the examples you could have picked you picked VoF. It's not a painting, it's installation art. It's an excellent example of when modern art can actually be GOOD.
@joshscorcher
@joshscorcher 9 лет назад
It's just 3 colored stripes on giant canvas.. Justify it all you want, it's nothing more amazing than what a kindergarten class could accomplish. Sometimes I think the only difference between art and junk is how you justify it when its put on display.
@JustAnOwlz
@JustAnOwlz 9 лет назад
***** at least read wikipedia and discover the meaning of it
@jez9999
@jez9999 9 лет назад
***** LOL "A further controversy ensued in 1992 when it was discovered that the painting had been displayed upside-down following its acquisition." - that's why you didn't realize its genius - it was upside-down! :-D
@Thursday121am
@Thursday121am 9 лет назад
RU-vid "Andy Rooney on Modern Art"
@steelingcable6350
@steelingcable6350 3 года назад
I find it funny that in the section that says "Buy PragerU merchandise" there are items that feature slogans praising freedom under a video about how artists shouldn't be allowed to make what they want.
@hankrowell3345
@hankrowell3345 6 месяцев назад
This video doesn't say anything about artistic freedom.
@ZnamTwojaMama101
@ZnamTwojaMama101 4 месяца назад
Leftist trying not to strawman challenge:
@steelingcable6350
@steelingcable6350 4 месяца назад
@@ZnamTwojaMama101 poop piss
@Fish-vs6jf
@Fish-vs6jf 3 года назад
No, art actually can't be objectively measured. You didn't actually explain why a sculpture is less enjoyable to look at than a rock. And it isn't; we simply ascribe the quality of transcendent beauty to the sculpture, despite the fact that it's simply shaped a different way. All phenomena are empty.
@vikingursigurdsson
@vikingursigurdsson 3 года назад
Does that really need to be explained? Is it not clear as daylight why a sculpture is a work of art but a rock isn't, to say you can't understand it is just insulting yourself
@Fish-vs6jf
@Fish-vs6jf 3 года назад
@@vikingursigurdsson You misunderstand the point. Buddhist monks would go to the woods and live in extremely simple huts with simple wooden tools to teach themselves to be okay with whatever surrounds them. And over time, the crude wooden bowls and the dirt floors became transcendently beautiful to them. Do you understand what I'm trying to communicate?
@callmejacob33
@callmejacob33 2 года назад
@@Fish-vs6jf that doesnt make sense to me
@throwaway2161
@throwaway2161 2 года назад
@@Fish-vs6jf Nobody is arguing that something has to achieve artistic perfection to be appreciated but if we take everything that's existing as art than what is not art?
@Fish-vs6jf
@Fish-vs6jf 2 года назад
@@throwaway2161 Nothing is not art.
@HYLOBRO
@HYLOBRO 8 лет назад
I don't think graffiti should be lumped into the same category as "modern art". That stuff takes real skill and dedication, and in itself is rebellious, which makes the perfection of some of its pieces ALL the more impressive. That someone is willing to risk their neck to make someone's jaw drop.
@kfcnyancat
@kfcnyancat 8 лет назад
+Dillon Jenings Graffiti is rebellion. Modern Art is rebellion for rebellion's sake.
@sayuas4293
@sayuas4293 8 лет назад
+Dillon Jenings Some graffiti art is good, but most of it is trash.
@forresthenry9535
@forresthenry9535 8 лет назад
I don't know a whole lot about art, but shouldn't art be done on privately owned materials and not on public property? I mean public murals may be one thing, but those are meant for artistic purposes, as opposed to the side of an office building!
@forresthenry9535
@forresthenry9535 8 лет назад
+Emigdiosback I don't have a problem with spray can art as long as it's not defacing things that are taxpayer financed. In terms of art I suggest looking at the work of Abraham Anghik Ruben. He has an interesting way of using Inuit art forms to tell Norse and Irish stories and vice versa. It is quite interesting.
@forresthenry9535
@forresthenry9535 8 лет назад
+kfcnyancat Ah, but even rebellion must serve a purpose other than itself, otherwise it descends into barbarity and simple destruction.
@kingdewoot
@kingdewoot 7 лет назад
This isn't really political, modern art is terrible.
@christianali5431
@christianali5431 7 лет назад
King Dewoot modern art is terrible because it tries to be political.
@patricksmith8470
@patricksmith8470 7 лет назад
The paintings that are just paint splatters and random shapes aren't political, most modern art is just amateur and bad. I don't mind having a few pieces hanging on my wall just to break up the monotony of my apartment, but I'm not paying hundreds of dollars or that shit.
@patrykwojtowicz6362
@patrykwojtowicz6362 7 лет назад
King Dewoot at least our video games are now beautiful and you can explore every last bit of them :-)
@christianali5431
@christianali5431 7 лет назад
Patryk Wójtowicz don't even get me started on modern storytelling, Which is going down the route of pretentiousness. I remember when the hero of the story actually did something heroic , And got repaid in kind. We used to tell stories about good triumphing over evil, Something that was inspiring and made sense. Now days they will just give the Oscar to anything without white people in it. Some of the best writing done in the past 10 years has come from children and family films and video games in my opinion.
@ColeMoleson
@ColeMoleson 5 лет назад
Christian Ali ok BOOMER
@johnsmolder9325
@johnsmolder9325 3 года назад
I wonder how many PragerU fans realize this video is very clearly criticizing the effects of a free market. They are literally advocating for what Stalin did to the arts in the USSR.
@johnsmolder9325
@johnsmolder9325 3 года назад
@@ronnelechavez I've literally never met anyone who says that everything is "oppressor vs. Oppressed" they're as prevelant as flat earthers but it's easier for pages like this to manipulate you if they convince you that they are a majority. I would take your statement about them criticizing some effects of free market capitalism if they didn't spend so much time saying the exact opposite on other videos. If they were "promoting classical arts" then they would have spent more of the video educating on classical artists and their work. The whole video is purposefully targeted at attacking modern art and while they may not be openly trying to legislate modern art away, they would be perfectly happy with convincing the public demanding modern art be ostracized. They are still actively against modern arts mere existence. That's anti free market either way. And actually advocating for specific standards of art is exactly what Stalin did and they proposed that idea a shit ton in this video.
@johnsmolder9325
@johnsmolder9325 3 года назад
@@ronnelechavez I've legitimately never met someone who thinks purely black and white like that. Never. You may be purposefully seeking those people out if you think they aren't a tiny minority.
@lautheimpaler4686
@lautheimpaler4686 2 года назад
@@johnsmolder9325 If you've never met someone like that, then try looking at the mirror.
@johnsmolder9325
@johnsmolder9325 2 года назад
@@lautheimpaler4686 no because I don't believe that everything is oppressor vs. Oppressed. I just believe in facts. Detesting the mere existence of modern art is anti free market. A true capitalist believes that the market determines value. If people enjoy it and consume it then why do you care?
@lautheimpaler4686
@lautheimpaler4686 2 года назад
@@johnsmolder9325 I have no problem with filthy rich people breaking their bank, buying blank canvases. What I do have problem with is people like you trying to legitimise these blank canvases and weird paintings as art. It's not art, it's business. plain and simple. And I'm pretty sure that if peole stop buying these stains and blank canvases, the "artists" will stop expressing themselves through stains and blank canvases. Because their "art" is dependent on the demand of the market lol.
@cronchybo
@cronchybo 3 года назад
first off, what you equate to "modern art" is actually Contemporary art. the 'Modern Art' era includes art from the 1860s all the way to the 1970s and includes artworks from artists like Vincent van Gogh, Paul Gauguin, Paul Cézanne, Henri de Toulouse-Lautrec, Georges Seurat and more. I absolutely hate when people say that Contemporary art isn't art, because it is. it's like how photography wasn't considered art. what one person sees as art might not be art in the eyes of another. art is subjective. even the works of van Gogh weren't seen as art to those of that era. each era of art is a responce/rebellion to the previous one (like Renaissance to Mannerism). we are continuously breaking the definition of art. from the Neolithic era to the Contemporary era, it is all art.
@eE-mo7kt
@eE-mo7kt 3 года назад
nO BuT moDeRn aRt bAd bECuz ItS nOt PReTty. PragerU is pathetic
@Dennis-nc3vw
@Dennis-nc3vw 3 года назад
;lajf;lkajf;lzkjf;lzkjfakklfjd There, I just made art.
@myusernameusedtobereallycr2075
@myusernameusedtobereallycr2075 3 года назад
I think people tend to think that just because something isn't universally agreed upon there is no actual right answer. In other words they take something where people disagree and immediately say that because they disagree there isn't a correct answer at all. Certainly at some point in your life your math teacher has at some point posted some hard math problem where half the class had different answers than the other class. However there was always a right answer to that problem its just that not everyone was correct. Now art isn't entirely objective, your not wrong if you aren't into a certain type of music, or series, or painting or whatever, however that doesn't mean that there is no such thing as quality in art. Basically for example if Gordon Ramsay cooks a dish with fish in it and you hate fish you will likely not like his food, however his food is still well crafted its just that it wasn't to your taste. That wouldn't make you wrong its fine not to like certain things however it also doesn't mean that Gordon Ramsay's food is no better or worse than a piece of shit on the ground or even Velveeta macn'cheese. Hot take btw Velveeta is objectively disgusting and an insult to the human palate. This whole subjective vs objective argument is one that has literally raged since ancient greek times tho so really either side that tries to simplify it can piss me off.
@cronchybo
@cronchybo 3 года назад
@@Dennis-nc3vw there is an artwork similar to that concept, but I doubt you care enough to learn about it.
@Blu3W4r10Ck
@Blu3W4r10Ck 9 лет назад
"My fecal matter sculpture of Gandhi in SS uniform covered in menstrual blood is a legitimate form of art and anyone who thinks otherwise doesn't know what art is" - The comment section.
@youmakeagreatpointand3043
@youmakeagreatpointand3043 9 лет назад
Blu3W4r10Ck that's not a reason to write off all of modern art, but i still lol'd
@VueiyVisarelli
@VueiyVisarelli 9 лет назад
Blu3W4r10Ck I would've lol'd, too, except my stomach was turning (I've gotta stop visualizing everything I read! Darn imagination!!).
@MikaelLAOhman
@MikaelLAOhman 9 лет назад
Blu3W4r10Ck Indeed. I wonder what people would say if we started to apply this to say.. music. How long would stand they stand listening to such noise I wonder. +DJ Human Condition Modern art isn't stuff that's done today, it's the class of work that is.. well, as shitty as the examples he showed here. And these do deserve to be slagged off. It's really just paintings and sculptures that seem to get a free pass. Movies? Music? Games? I can't think of anything else with artistic creations that would get away with this.
@MusicHimanshu
@MusicHimanshu 9 лет назад
Blu3W4r10Ck I DONT AGREE! This old fart is looking at all the wrong places! Its a whole new World out there. I bet if any of the renaissance artist like Leonardo DaVinci would play great video games, like grand theft auto , they would throw away those paint brushes... Deal with it!
@VueiyVisarelli
@VueiyVisarelli 9 лет назад
Henrik högberg ...Did you _seriously_ try to compare DaVinci's work with GTA...?! It may be a well-made game by talented individuals, but it's hardly a work of art, and I'm pretty sure it wasn't _intended_ to be, either. Well, this is a prime example of why people say this generation is too far gone... ...On the other hand, if that comment was satire, you have my apologies. Some people really _are_ so far gone as to honestly, seriously suggest such a thing.
@RayPoreon
@RayPoreon 8 лет назад
I'm just gonna say it, some of the best artists online often draw(or the digital equivalent) porn.
@mandalorian_guy
@mandalorian_guy 8 лет назад
+Kinky Fish True. I often spend hours looking at some of the beautiful pieces the community produces, not as a sexual fetish but as a fan of class and elegance.
@osmosiswright9924
@osmosiswright9924 8 лет назад
+Matthew Watson Same. It's helped me with anatomy and posing... and for its intended purpose.
@osmosiswright9924
@osmosiswright9924 8 лет назад
+Matthew Watson Same. It's helped me with anatomy and posing... and for its intended purpose.
@RayPoreon
@RayPoreon 8 лет назад
Osmosis Wright [insert lenny here]
@RayPoreon
@RayPoreon 8 лет назад
gh0strec0n141 So an extent, most stuff on DA is garbage, but there is still a lot of good stuff...including porn.
@janmiller9658
@janmiller9658 Год назад
As an artist and former art teacher, I LOVED this analysis. I've been discriminated against because I specialize in realist art and sometimes wasn't allowed into juried shows even though the promoters told me there was no question about my being a talented artist. I'm convinced they want the viewing public to believe no one is still doing realist art so if you want to buy art you have to buy the trash they promote. I also taught both realist methods and their appreciation to my students but I didn't just look backwards. I wrote my own new curriculum every year for over 30 years and eventually developed theme years integrating history, technique with idea generation and ways to use art in their future careers.
@JITKanno0
@JITKanno0 Год назад
I know this is usually said to the US army veterans, but, sir- thank you for your service!! Keep the good work up!
@Primus-ue4th
@Primus-ue4th Год назад
I’m glad there’s people like you. Art, along with any other profession/hobby/activity, shouldn’t be easy. It should push you to your limits sometimes. If making a masterpiece was easy, we’d all be doing it. I’m sure your students appreciate you.
@halfaloaf
@halfaloaf Год назад
did you ever get an explanation for why it wasn't allowed in or are you just assuming they hate realistic art because yours wasn't let in?
@user-up3te2sb6d
@user-up3te2sb6d 3 года назад
After WW2 they just made sure that everyone can be accepted to art school.
@Alesae132
@Alesae132 10 лет назад
As an art student of over 20 years, I have been asking myself this question for years. I remember once going to MoMA, and asking out loud "What is this shit?" and getting dirty looks from the other patrons. I have not gone back since. Also, the work of Jackson Pollock is shit and the fact that people find it aesthetically pleasing makes me weep for humanity.
@lucianosardella
@lucianosardella 10 лет назад
How can you see us from that high horse there bud?
@alex_oiman
@alex_oiman 10 лет назад
***** dont worry. he just sees you as stupid.
@FartMaster69
@FartMaster69 10 лет назад
The current artistic community are the same kind of disease to society that wine drinkers are. They complain about social status and the like because they've been shit on by it, but ironically they're the biggest leeches and easiest manipulated by their own little social niche. That would be fine if they didn't push themselves into every other community; Video games, journalism, cinema, art, music, and then proceed to shit it up with their awful hug-box developed opinions and general ignorance and arrogance. Some people would say it starts at college or starts at home, but people can be born moronic. I guarantee you they're the other side of the coin belonging to the kind of person who says they've always been smart but school was too boring so they skipped all of it. One half goes on to do jack shit and is genuinely a lot more likeable than the half that goes off and tries to force its way into other communities to try and find a place it's accepted. "I am a special snowflake, and I want be to treated as such." is their general thinking pattern which they apply to everything in life. If something goes against their idea that they are in anyway not exactly the same as everyone else in their circlejerk then they will lash out at it in the most threatened attitude. They'll claim it's fascist, misogynistic, genocidal, uncaring, and just about anything short of a war crime. They'll equate having to deal with the situation to rape or PTSD, even going as far to claim they have been theoretically murdered. They aren't the problem with humanity, because they will be around forever and ever and have been since society was just small tribes dictated by the most skilled or strongest person in them. The problem is other people who are in positions of actual power encouraging it and agreeing with it as if they have lost all thinking capabilities. Society accepting these individuals as equal whatsoever is the problem. These people can be fixed and molded into genuinely decent people if it were encouraged whatsoever, but it isn't. On one side they have people praising them for being generally incompetent, ignorant, and over-narcissistic shitheads, and on the other you have people constantly bashing them making them want to be even more what they already are.
@allybelly
@allybelly 10 лет назад
FartMaster69 What are you talking about? The current artistic community push themselves into video games, cinema, art ect... ?? Well yes because video games, cinema and art IS art. Artists create your favorite video games and films. The artists creating these are not 'modern artists'. They're talented people who understand colour theory, perspective and effective designs. I don't really understand your point.
@FartMaster69
@FartMaster69 10 лет назад
Ally Baldwin Video games are not art.
@FewerMiles
@FewerMiles 5 лет назад
Alternative theory: there has always been lousy art, but after centuries most of the ones that survive are the good works.
@mrmann69
@mrmann69 5 лет назад
Survivor bias. Yup, that's probably a big thing here.
@anduro7448
@anduro7448 5 лет назад
Intresting opinion
@pierrealexandersmith
@pierrealexandersmith 5 лет назад
This is definitely a factor, but in previous eras there was a philosophical goal of creating something transcendent, whereas that is specifically rejected in the modern paradigm.
@mrmann69
@mrmann69 5 лет назад
@@pierrealexandersmith What do you mean by 'transcendent' in this context?
@frog273
@frog273 5 лет назад
@@mrmann69 overcomming limits
@neilagangitlog
@neilagangitlog 4 года назад
Uhhh... All art has context. We can't keep doing the same things that "classical art" does, simply because society has changed. Art history is a reaction with what's happened before, and what's happening now. Sure, there's value in technical skill, but that's not all that there is to art. You can't just art just by how it looks. One of the reasons why Pollock is valued because he had the guts to take the canvass out of the frame, combine painting with performance art, and visualize movement without relying on recognizable imagery. Sure, your apron might look like a Pollock, but it will never be a Pollock. And modern art isn't just about self-expression. It's a pushback to tradition, it's a different way of looking at things, it's extending the role art plays in society, among other things. About the skater analogy, that kinda is the point. Modern art questions the standards that we have in art. It pushes the criteria that we have for what we considered beautiful. Art now, unlike sport, doesn't have clear rules. This liberated artists, enabled them to use art in a way that isn't really present in the renaissance (social commentary, activism). This doesn't mean that making traditional, representational art has no place in the modern world. This also mean that you have to personally like modern art. We clearly have our own tastes. Just please don't devalue modern art. You can say that you personally prefer technical skill and formal subject matter, like those of renaissance art, instead of saying that modern art sucks. Also, using examples from the Classical, Renaissance, Baroque, Neoclassicism, and Romantic periods as the standard for what art should be is just so Eurocentric. People from other cultures have been making art too. Those art forms might not look like their contemporaries, but they certainly are as valuable. The modern society seeks to highlight those artforms (atleast that's the goal). I also find the argument against graffiti very elitist (i mean, this whole video is). It basically devalues art created by the masses, implying that only formally trained artists could make art. Now, in some ways graffiti could be destructive to property, and the political specifics of it is complex. The aesthetics of graffiti tho is very telling of our culture, and is worth examination. About the museums/gallery thingy... I'm certain that there's some corrupt stuff going on there. And quite frankly, I don't know how to respond to it. But that doesn't mean that we should stop making art. The creation and sharing of art isn't evil in and of itself.
@freddylong2292
@freddylong2292 4 года назад
That's a whole lot of typing, just to polish a turd.
@greasybunz4169
@greasybunz4169 4 года назад
the legit whole point of art is how it looks. if you have an idea you want to tell write it down and put it in the newspaper. don't make me look at your pile of dog shit and try to determine whats going on inside of your dumb ass head
@neilagangitlog
@neilagangitlog 4 года назад
You guys should study your art history first. For you, art may be solely for visual entertainment, but that's just not the case. Art has been use to spread religion, resist governments, etc. If you look at the history of the abstract expressionists, you'll understand why their works are not just "turd" or "shit". Consume the type of art that you want, but don't go around telling people that the art that they like is garbage. You didn't even provide proper arguments. Just goes to show how ignorant and insensitive you are.
@greasybunz4169
@greasybunz4169 4 года назад
Neil Espinosa it’s a banana
@greasybunz4169
@greasybunz4169 4 года назад
Neil Espinosa I understand conceptual art and actually enjoy some, but it’s because they display an idea or a situation. However this banana is just a banana and displays nothing
@seaweedbanana4663
@seaweedbanana4663 2 года назад
Modern art museums are the most boring places you could go
@chriss5334
@chriss5334 5 лет назад
But we have Bob Ross.
@petrohex
@petrohex 5 лет назад
Had :(
@dez-m
@dez-m 5 лет назад
@@petrohex ;( Rip
@jamestcharvoski3150
@jamestcharvoski3150 5 лет назад
Used to
@user-rf5qo6rw5b
@user-rf5qo6rw5b 5 лет назад
Had :C
@sonniepronounceds-au-ni9287
@sonniepronounceds-au-ni9287 5 лет назад
We will miss Bob Ross. I love his videos.
@MacBamboocha
@MacBamboocha 9 лет назад
If for you it's nearly impossible to differentiate between Pollock splatter technique and some random stain, than you're a bad art teacher. I'm sorry, but I'm just an architecture student and the first thing I thought when you said _"Do you see this Pollock?"_ was that this is clearly not Jackson Pollock's hand.
@maberti
@maberti 9 лет назад
+ADE Marc Alexander Here's an intelligent reply to this video : (youtube) /watch?v=E56P55i3HHQ by the "School of Life"
@MacBamboocha
@MacBamboocha 9 лет назад
Marka Biti Thank you a lot for the link! :)
@maberti
@maberti 9 лет назад
No problem. I also saw the image and was like "wait, that's not Pollock" :p
@carlmart5797
@carlmart5797 9 лет назад
+Marka Biti I saw the video. It's everything except intelligent. It's just the same old sad excuse, "Feel it, don't analyze it." Same deal as when they say, "When you ask God for forgiveness you can feel inner peace, feel God in your life" when the reality is... there's no such thing as "god." Exactly the same deal. You just convince people to feel stuff, but it's themselves the emotions come form, not the rubbish plastered on the canvas.
@MacBamboocha
@MacBamboocha 9 лет назад
Karl Mart The difference is quite obvious to me honestly. Religion is an human made construct with the precise purpose to influence you on some level, in most cases to push a political rather than spiritual statement. But Pollock's art is an expression of an act with a canvas as the result of it, which however is just the proof of said abstract act and not the art itself. So yes, it's something that can't be completely analyzed. That doesn't mean that there is no technicality behind it; otherwise we weren't able to recognize Florczak's - imho outrageously apparent - ruse. Also we're talking about art, which in some form or another always tries to send a message trough emotion. It's not that far fetched at all if you think about it.
@oro_junestar
@oro_junestar Год назад
please eat paint. PLEASE.
@xx_xxxxx_xx4800
@xx_xxxxx_xx4800 4 года назад
i disagree with the point that art can be valuated objectively. i dont think the comparison to the skating competition makes good sense. that is because art shouldnt be considered a game. it is an expression, a materialised worldview or mindset of the creator and the society and i dont think it should be meaningful necessarily. if the art isnt meaningful then it reflects the trend of the modern times which is that life is often times exactly that: not meaningful. in regards to the apron, the fact that it was the story of the man behind the thing that made the whole difference, is actually pretty interesting. which means we could make the same experiment the other way around. would one call a meaningful painting art if it was made by a machine or created accidentally? why am i writing an essay in video comment. idk
@GummyJeff
@GummyJeff 3 года назад
because you're passionate about art and you know what real art is. people who get into art for money, fame, friends, or other ulterior motives aside from honest expression will never understand.
@Dennis-nc3vw
@Dennis-nc3vw 3 года назад
How the hell is figure skating not a form of expression? The only difference is whether you are expressing yourself with your body, or with a canvas?
@zteevydood870
@zteevydood870 3 года назад
@@Dennis-nc3vw It is a form of expression, figure skating is often used in the context of a competition where it is judged "objectively" and therefore there is an objective right way for figure skating to be good or to be bad. This completely asinine, as the judges are only judging it off of a subjective metric. What some judge in a competition decides is good figure skating does not mean all figure skating has to be held to that very specific standard.
@xx_xxxxx_xx4800
@xx_xxxxx_xx4800 3 года назад
@@Dennis-nc3vw i guess you're right. i just judged it as being a game, because it normally is. there's probably nothing but financial support stopping it from becoming that, just as there's nothing but financial support stopping meaningful art from becoming the standard of galleries again
@djeka415
@djeka415 27 дней назад
So, if I shit on my table and call it an art, would this be one? Everything is objective, after all
@jackalope2302
@jackalope2302 7 лет назад
I feel that most modern art is crap. But consider Mona Lisa (a famous painting that I think is somewhat overrated). Leonardo painted and repainted her over ten years and she's over five hundred years old. Think of all the crap she has outlasted! The old masterpieces are immortalized and the crap is forgotten.
@RedEzelt
@RedEzelt 7 лет назад
Jack Hurst Preach
@randalica92
@randalica92 7 лет назад
Jack Hurst there are a lot of great modern artists, problem is that they get no recognition from the pretentious elite that promoted the shitty image modern art has today.
@jackalope2302
@jackalope2302 7 лет назад
S L A Y E R Truth! In music, the petty, the material and the ugly are preferred to the deep, the transcendent and the sublime these days. Maybe one day the praise will go to the worthy.
@renjia3504
@renjia3504 7 лет назад
S L A Y E R literally I see so many great pieces that Barily make it past google images, magnificent pieces, overlooked by scrap metal, and trash. It's quite sad actually
@KossolaxtheForesworn
@KossolaxtheForesworn 7 лет назад
true. tho mona lisa is a historical meme. now if pepe would also last 500 years.
@popopopopopo1913
@popopopopopo1913 6 лет назад
To be fair, a lot of graffiti is much nicer than modern art. I've seen some stuff that shows genuine artistic talent... much more than it takes to paint a square on a piece of paper, at any rate.
@hunteer3
@hunteer3 6 лет назад
still vandalism in most cases so.. No. These guys are more criminals than "artistic talents".
@dallinsinger2636
@dallinsinger2636 6 лет назад
hunteer3 Show me where legality is mentioned in the definition of art.
@sallymj8957
@sallymj8957 6 лет назад
And you’d love the scoundrels to create their graffiti at your home, right?
@dallinsinger2636
@dallinsinger2636 6 лет назад
I wonder if scoundrels is a euphemism for something? I'm not saying that graffiti is ethical, I'm just saying that some of it has artistic value. And if it's made in the modern day, doesn't that make it "modern art"?
@wallgod663
@wallgod663 6 лет назад
@@hunteer3 so what is a criminal with artistic talent ? Just because your doing it illegal doesn't take away from that art part. And just because it's legal doesn't mean its artistic.
@nowgoawayanddosomethinggoo8978
@nowgoawayanddosomethinggoo8978 3 года назад
because the last time they didn't accept "modern art" it started a war
@voidstaff777
@voidstaff777 2 года назад
The worse here is the NFT Art, they put a value on mediocre so called modern art. Imagine that getting paid for burning energy for a garbage lol.
@theiconoclasticalsatian4184
@theiconoclasticalsatian4184 7 лет назад
I think modern art is just the result of obnoxious art critics.
@Skyfire-dy4yw
@Skyfire-dy4yw 7 лет назад
I have seen graffiti better than most modern art pieces.
@rebekahWalton
@rebekahWalton 6 лет назад
Pheonyx Actually, me too. I have seen some really good graffiti art.
@EyeLean5280
@EyeLean5280 6 лет назад
Um, graffiti * is * modern art.
@HomoAlone1
@HomoAlone1 6 лет назад
oh hun, you don't know anything about Modern Art do you?
@errorite6653
@errorite6653 6 лет назад
Graffiti is as old as the ancient Egyptians.
@EyeLean5280
@EyeLean5280 6 лет назад
Justinius you are correct. Graffiti goes back to ancient Rome and probably earlier.
@uzesamaX
@uzesamaX 3 года назад
i recall seeing shoes glued together hanging on a wall of a gallery and being called art by my art teacher, to which i said since she has so bad taste, it was obvious why she was a teacher and not an artist herself
@nameunknown2887
@nameunknown2887 3 года назад
what makes it not art? what applies to something else that makes it art that it doesn't have?
@williambrennan1658
@williambrennan1658 3 года назад
@@nameunknown2887 its "art" but it is meaningless requires no talent
@ryanrigley2558
@ryanrigley2558 3 года назад
@@nameunknown2887 id say that the bare minimum is not being a money laundering scheme
@Nahzuul
@Nahzuul 3 года назад
Assuming she was a full-time paid art teacher, well, a lot of artists would love to have that gig. I am sorry that she didn't teach you to restrict your criticism to the art rather than to be so unnecessarily cruel and personal.
@uzesamaX
@uzesamaX 3 года назад
@@Nahzuul she deserved it because not only was she bad at teaching, she also believed she was above other people for being an "educator". She even dared to say my mother's knowledge of arts wasn't serious because she was a housewife. My teacher forgot that my Mother pays the taxes that allow her to feel important as an educator. So I felt no need to show respect for someone who doesn't show it to others. By the way, my Mother studied art as part of her education in technical drawing, it was 4 years. My teacher only studied one year of art at the university and quit. That person thought she was above others
@peneficial1643
@peneficial1643 4 года назад
If anyone is ‘triggered’ by modern art, you’re not forced to buy any of it. If you are going to complain about it, just stop.
@chikinonfrydai
@chikinonfrydai 4 года назад
That is the stupidest argument I have ever seen. You wouldn’t say the same about a bad movie, you’d just say the movie is bad. Same with literally anything else, why is “art” an exception?
@PattyWinters123
@PattyWinters123 5 лет назад
My favorite part: Leonardo Di Vinci carved his David out of a rock. Today all the modern art museum gives us is a rock. All 350 tons of it.
@filonautic4999
@filonautic4999 5 лет назад
Michael not Leonardo. If that mistake was made on purpose... nice try. Anyhow its sad you have been corrected after 3 months.
@timwood5398
@timwood5398 5 лет назад
Filo Nautic lol
@thejoshumitsu
@thejoshumitsu 5 лет назад
And that's not how to write Leonardo's second name.
@tat3w
@tat3w 5 лет назад
Oryx
@fransmierenneuker8823
@fransmierenneuker8823 5 лет назад
Notronin not his second name, da vinci means Leonardo from Vinci. Vinci is a place.
@33Keith33
@33Keith33 7 лет назад
A close friend of mine sums it up quite well when he says, "The problem with modern art is that it's too primitive".
@AA-in4so
@AA-in4so 7 лет назад
If that's the case, then art has simply returned to its roots, the roots in question being "primitive" cave paintings. The problem with your friend's summation is that it is little more than a knee-jerk reaction.
@lem565
@lem565 7 лет назад
A. David A. even primitive art had thought put into it.
@AA-in4so
@AA-in4so 7 лет назад
It's presumptuous to assume that modern art doesn't. Just because someone doesn't think like you, doesn't mean they don't put thought into their actions.
@lem565
@lem565 7 лет назад
Put thought into selling a giant rock, crumpling up a survival blanket, leaving a canvas white, or just throwing paint at a canvas. I think you should visit a modern art museum my dude. kek People only say they put thought into it so that rich people who want to make it look like they are intellectuals buy it.
@terrytees
@terrytees 7 лет назад
I like your friends logic.
@Le_mouse
@Le_mouse 3 года назад
How to make an modern art: 1. Buy a shit ton of paints 2. Buy a canvas 3. Just throw the paint into the canvas with different colours 4. Achievement unlocked "modern Da Vinci"
@TheRisky9
@TheRisky9 2 года назад
Bonus points if you stomp on the paints.
@Le_mouse
@Le_mouse 2 года назад
@@TheRisky9 true
@smallvalleyproductions9103
@smallvalleyproductions9103 3 года назад
i'm genuinely trying to understand here, did he, critique a form of self-expression, by saying, that it was reduced, to pure self expression?
@motelmars
@motelmars 3 года назад
yeah that’s exactly what he did it’s completely missing the entire point of art
@greenbayfan915
@greenbayfan915 3 года назад
The point of art is to achieve refined expression
@smallvalleyproductions9103
@smallvalleyproductions9103 3 года назад
@@greenbayfan915 That's kinda a semi-reductive way to view art though. like, to me, art is meant to convey an emotion, a feeling, to a target group. If it does that, then like, it's achieved it's goal. Personally, i look at photorealistc paintings of like, landscapes and stuff and i go "wow. why isn't it just a photograph" art can do so much more than just, paint houses and people and mountains, you can do ANYTHING with it, evoke ANY emotion with the right nuance and mastery
@greenbayfan915
@greenbayfan915 3 года назад
@@smallvalleyproductions9103 so if I smear shit on the wall because I felt that it expressed an emotion I had at the time then that is art?
@greenbayfan915
@greenbayfan915 3 года назад
@@smallvalleyproductions9103 If I slammed on a piano and made dissonances that sound horrible and justify it by saying I was channeling an emotion through the piano then that is art? It may be. But it certainly shouldn't be held to the same regard as a piano piece that displayed technical skill and emotion. In fact, technical skill without emotional intent is still more artistic, because combinations of sounds that make sense and display something known as "beauty," which is a form that displays balance and sensible measurability, will by default instill emotion in people. You don't seek emotion first, you derive it. People who like modern art go into it with the intent to feel emotion, and will regardless, which is a little something known as "confirmation bias."
@AndrewJ9673
@AndrewJ9673 6 лет назад
Its pronounced: Money laundering.
@nailsnailsgoodinbed
@nailsnailsgoodinbed 6 лет назад
😂
@eaglewings7372
@eaglewings7372 7 лет назад
I agree. Spilling your chocolate milk on a canvas doesn't mean you're an artist. It means you're clumsy.
@TheZutter
@TheZutter 7 лет назад
Eaglewings 737 but what if leanrdo da Vinci spilt some paint and made the Mona Lisa? (DUUUUM)
@bo_jelin
@bo_jelin Год назад
you guys just don't get it
@antelopefreeway214
@antelopefreeway214 11 месяцев назад
If I have a low opinion of it, then its not good art. There, its settled. No other points of view are needed. Move along.
@GhostSamaritan
@GhostSamaritan 9 лет назад
This arguably applies to music too.
@dexterlecter7289
@dexterlecter7289 9 лет назад
lol true.
@GhostSamaritan
@GhostSamaritan 9 лет назад
But then again, I guess music is an artform.
@clearlenscap9707
@clearlenscap9707 9 лет назад
No, it definitely applies to music
@paulhallart
@paulhallart 9 лет назад
no. music is still far too primitive; also it was locked in the perfectionism of composers who had to suck up.
@gregheffly
@gregheffly 9 лет назад
paulhallart Speedcore vs Beethoven vs Dies Irae vs NIGGA NIGGA NIGGA NIGGA NIGGA What are the deeper themes and what is best.
@StoryBrain
@StoryBrain 9 лет назад
Another key factor was the invention of photography. Painters used to be the only people who could give you a realistic image of what your eyes showed you. Once cameras showed up, the whole field lost its main purpose.
@sauroman1
@sauroman1 6 лет назад
Still paint can be used express other values than realism
@masterpepe3641
@masterpepe3641 6 лет назад
avalon NewWay like surrealism
@observerfx212
@observerfx212 6 лет назад
Not really, this diminishes the rich expressivity and variation of style throughout the history of art. Art had many more purposes than snapshots. Flip through a book on art history and you'll see much that is not pure realism, long before the modern periods.
@56jklove
@56jklove 6 лет назад
photography is an art form
@Deathrape2001
@Deathrape2001 6 лет назад
Absolute bull$hit. U can paint stuff that does not &/or can not exist, in BEAUTIFUL 'realistic' fashion. U R making excuses 4 the undermining of white culture... www.neodownloader.com/tags/imagenetion www.neodownloader.com/projects/92-fantasy
@thecalzone9651
@thecalzone9651 3 года назад
Art didnt get worse, we just dont remember the bad art from the 1700s Whereas were subject to all art that is made today
@CrimsoneArtsPrivateaccount
@CrimsoneArtsPrivateaccount Месяц назад
I think the best kind of art to fit the criteria in this video is digital art. It requires hard work to be appreciated, but isn't too limiting to allow freedom of expression.
@Tracy_AC
@Tracy_AC 9 лет назад
Absolutely agree, especially on the "all that was left was personal expression" line. So tired of "artists" claiming that the purpose of art is to express oneself, and then go on to make ugly piece after ugly piece with little to no effort.
@MrInfectedby
@MrInfectedby 9 лет назад
Im blaming it on instagram
@vasconcelossentimento
@vasconcelossentimento 9 лет назад
Tracy Coxon why can't they make ugly piece after ugly piece with little to no effort? Is it not art? Are you or the man in the video capable of claiming what is art and what is not? Does anyone care that you're tired of these artists? Here, I wrote down the answers for ya pal They can if they want to It is No Nope cause they are not making what they make for you they are making it for themselves
@Tracy_AC
@Tracy_AC 9 лет назад
Gui Esteves They can make it, but it's not art and they're not artists. If you went to a restaurant and they gave you a plate of dirt, you wouldn't call it food and you wouldn't call the person who made it a chef.
@vasconcelossentimento
@vasconcelossentimento 9 лет назад
Tracy Coxon Who are you to define what art and what an artist is? Who are you to tell other people what is art and what is not? Not even god can tell what is art because its not up to him and not up to you. The beauty is in the eye of the beholder, like it was said. Art is in the eye of the spectator.
@Tracy_AC
@Tracy_AC 9 лет назад
Gui Esteves Don't play the "what gives you the authority" game, because you are doing the exact same thing by trying to claim that these things ARE art. Just because someone finds something beautiful does not make it art. Art is the implementation of imagination and technical skill for the creation of images that reflect the world or communicate ideas or emotions. Tossing some paint on a canvas is unimaginative, requires almost no technical skill, and does not reflect the world or communicate anything beyond what the "artist" sees. It is purely self-expressive, and therefore not art.
@Man-mv7qk
@Man-mv7qk 5 лет назад
I swear to god ive found better paintings on deviantart then ive found in world famous museums
@identicalgd2446
@identicalgd2446 4 года назад
MindCraftSteev same
@hydraulichydra8363
@hydraulichydra8363 4 года назад
Man Deviantart is lit! I can't tell you how many beautiful pictures I've found just by Googling it and going into images. (Yes IK there's plenty of garbage and they have this weird obsession with pregnancy and a little bit of furry but other than that they're pretty good.)
@theinvisibleskulk4563
@theinvisibleskulk4563 4 года назад
For real, this is why anime and anime-style art is taking over the world. That's making lefties nervous.
@austinreed7343
@austinreed7343 4 года назад
MindCraftSteev Case in point: www.deviantart.com/whiteabsol/art/I-m-Sorry-801570554
@clownplayer7265
@clownplayer7265 4 года назад
Heck, you can at least say a kid using MS Paint to paint his family at least try.
@christineshotton824
@christineshotton824 Год назад
Most modern art consists of the product of people who like to think of themselves as artists, but lack the talent for the job.
@OhMyShad
@OhMyShad Год назад
Bruh your comment is dumb.. You are telling me that Picasso is lacking talent compared to Davinci or Caravaggio?
@christineshotton824
@christineshotton824 Год назад
@@OhMyShad Anyone starting a comment with "bruh" lacks the intellect to participate in anything deeper than a conversation on skateboarding or reality television.
@OhMyShad
@OhMyShad Год назад
@@christineshotton824 Nice way to not respond ahah, I guess you eat caviar and drink champagne for a living
@christineshotton824
@christineshotton824 Год назад
@@OhMyShad I am not up to the challenge of educating idiots who do not understand that there's a difference between"most" and "every".
@henriquemedranosilva7142
@henriquemedranosilva7142 Год назад
Honastly, just ignore the museum modern art, the internet has given so many great digital and photos of great art
@matthewpancini7300
@matthewpancini7300 3 года назад
As an artist, this is a very inadequate video. Personally, I’m not an abstract artist, but just because a piece of art doesn’t depict something recognizable, doesn’t mean it isn’t art, nor is it bad art. No matter what anyone says, there is no objectively good art. It’s on you to find your own personal meaning within a piece, not for the piece to tell you what to believe.
@Waftey
@Waftey 2 года назад
BUT BUT... An art piece made by literally splashing around paint with no effort being sold for millions is an insult to the rest of the artists who actually place effort in their art pieces
@bloodredrain
@bloodredrain 2 года назад
-🤓
@eggbert37
@eggbert37 Год назад
thank you
@QUEfrang
@QUEfrang 5 месяцев назад
a fart has a hidden meaning. The lyrics of the song pvft hide these words: proftable, valuable, fun, and telephone. such beautiful masterpiece
@QUEfrang
@QUEfrang 5 месяцев назад
so if i think a toilet is valuable i can be a millionaire
@KaBArtStudioStLeonard
@KaBArtStudioStLeonard 7 лет назад
someone pays 1,000,000 dollars for a rock, but if someone wants art from me that's actually great, $100 dollars is too much.
@klobiforpresident2254
@klobiforpresident2254 7 лет назад
Look, everyone can . But can *you* lift a giant rock to a museum? But I agree completely. I was in the Louvre the other day. Of course the Mona Lisa was packed by hordes of Asian tourists, but the adjacent hallway (Display the Coronation of Napoleon and Liberty Leading the People) was empty except for three or four persons. Such great works of art, completely unnoticed.
@DakkogiRauru23
@DakkogiRauru23 7 лет назад
They were there for the Mona Lisa's reputation, not for its story and context. Ask any of them how much they think about what they consume. Most will probably say not much.
@DirtPoorWargamer
@DirtPoorWargamer 9 лет назад
So in short: "I find this art distasteful, so it's bad."
@darthmortus5702
@darthmortus5702 9 лет назад
More like:"Most people find this art distasteful, so it's bad." Which, if we are being honest, is the standard metric of something being bad, take a million people and I bet you'd be able to find a few cooks who genuinely think murder is ok but most of us would disagree right? :P
@DirtPoorWargamer
@DirtPoorWargamer 9 лет назад
Nemanja Colic People thought Van Gogh was a crap artist until years after he died. Public opinion isn't what determines whether art is good or bad. The thing most people don't understand about modern art is that it's a statement. People who think all modern art is bad are just too dumb to understand what the artists are trying to say. I'm not saying all modern art is good, but how "tasteful" a piece of art is has nothing to do with its quality.
@DirtPoorWargamer
@DirtPoorWargamer 9 лет назад
***** Let's say I could paint the most disturbing, distasteful images you've ever seen in your life, but use flawless artistic technique to do so. Is that good or bad art? According to you, it's automatically bad simply because it's distasteful, even if it's the single most technical piece of art on the planet. Your own criteria makes no sense.
@DirtPoorWargamer
@DirtPoorWargamer 9 лет назад
***** You said, and I quote, "Well the point of there being any quality in art is so that people would find it 'tasteful'". That sentence seems to disqualify anything distasteful as art. As for the "who can do the least work and get paid the most for it" argument, that's just market forces at work. If you knew you could take a crap and sell it to some dumbass for millions, I doubt you'd turn down the chance. That's not the fault of the artist. It's the fault of the people willing to buy it. And on the subject of art shouldn't be just a statement: art *is* a statement. Period. If there is no statement, it isn't really art and is just some pretty pictures. Art, in its purest sense, is nothing more than the feelings and emotions of the artist expressed through some medium. What better way to show your disdain for the Elite than selling them a pile of shit?
@darthmortus5702
@darthmortus5702 9 лет назад
Art should be beautiful and awe inspiring and MOST of modern art I've seen is simply not. What is awe inspiring or beautiful in a girl pissing, an empty canvas or just some random blobs of paint? And fyi I prefer the hyper realistic pictures of the past to Van Gogh, but as the vid notes the early impressionists were good, their work has some beauty and effort which is important for the awe part of a good painting. Even Picasso pictures I like have form, they have meaning that is clearly presented through what is painted, it has effort. Ultimately while I don't much care if some rich dumbass pays a fortune for a shit stain it gives signals to distributors and artists that this kind of art is what we want and appreciate which is just not true for the vast majority of humanity.
@toothpasteboy2019
@toothpasteboy2019 2 года назад
>Mfw 200$ furry art commision looks better than modern art 💀
@embird7864
@embird7864 3 года назад
Why are people so obsessed with identifying an objective criteria of quality in art? I find no joy in viewing a painting through the lens of ‘how well does this follow art rules?’
@victoribarra9486
@victoribarra9486 8 лет назад
Step 1: Get a plane card board Step 2: Paint one side titanium white and the other light Grey Step 3: ??? Step 4: Sell to a modern art museum Step 5: Profit
@MouseGoat
@MouseGoat 8 лет назад
+Victor Ibarra U Jelly? its a free world. ^^
@unclebrizz1053
@unclebrizz1053 8 лет назад
+Victor Ibarra I'm really a fan of step 3. ;,D
@martinsmartians
@martinsmartians 8 лет назад
+Nekogami-Crystal "U Jelly"??? Is that English? Whatever. Whilst I search for an interpreter, please actually TRY watching the entire video. THEN, you'll see that your "it's a free world" was completely irrelevant to the topic.
@BrunoSantos-sb6vh
@BrunoSantos-sb6vh 8 лет назад
+Victor Ibarra I love the geniuses that keep saying "modern art is so simple even a toddler could do it" and yet not one of those brilliant minds make an attempt at it, if it's so easy! I wonder why... laziness?
@MouseGoat
@MouseGoat 8 лет назад
martinsmartians how is being butthurt over other people's weird taste, at all relevant, to anything. If you want good art, go make some. or look at all that good art there already is. *Its a free world.*
@mordant221
@mordant221 8 лет назад
I don't think beautiful art wen't away, it just moved mediums (film, TV, video games...etc).
@mordant221
@mordant221 8 лет назад
Well, you're wrong. The new Doom is definitely art.
@mordant221
@mordant221 8 лет назад
What about Overwatch? Tracers ass is art
@12potatos
@12potatos 8 лет назад
Damn.... you're so right. Good job
@Detson404
@Detson404 8 лет назад
Video games are a business but so are most other forms of art. You think a novelist isn't writing in hopes of a paycheck?
@hugofreitas5933
@hugofreitas5933 8 лет назад
Saying that "Video games aren't art" implies a great level of ignorance... I could spent lines, talking about how Video games, specially nowadays, are taking steps further in "high art" aspects, but even since the 90's, were presented great examples of games that gave the conception that gaming as a whole could go further in it's meaning, such as Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy, the 6th generation brought us games like Beyond Good & Evil, God of War, Okami and Shadow of the Colossus, the 7th brought us Mass Effect, Dark Souls, Skyrim, the Witcher 2, the Last of Us and now in the 8th, video games evolved even more and were able to produce masterpieces like the Witcher 3, Rise of the Tomb Raider, No man's sky, the New God of War and Horizon Zero Dawn... Even the Indie genre has some great titles like Limbo, Brothers: a tale of two sons, Dust: an Elysian Tail, Undertale and Journey... not to mention the technical aspects, every era had games that showed what hardware complexity could do, and some pushed it to it's limits, if it's hard enough learning programing languages, imagine descending to the level of creating Graphical Engines?... For instance, one reason why i appreciate the Michelangelo, is due to the astounding fact that the same was carved from a Rock, and in the same way of technical complexity, i consider video games as a whole, a High Art form, just like Books, Music and Movies... Ps: I probably forgot to mention a whole lot of other games that deserve praise, those above i mentioned are the ones i know and/or played
@rezazazu
@rezazazu 11 месяцев назад
Hitler and his clique thought exactly the same way. 🤟
@freckleheckler6311
@freckleheckler6311 10 месяцев назад
And they were right.. what exactly is your point? Losing wars doesn’t invalidate the redemptive qualities of your society. You’re stupid.
@theprince3326
@theprince3326 3 месяца назад
Yeah I think when you start agreeing with fascists, especially on something so important as the expression of the human spirit, you need to start reevaluating your opinions
@samhayzen
@samhayzen 4 года назад
"Who's afraid of modern art" PragerU, apparently
@Oxideacid
@Oxideacid 4 года назад
Modern art is just a bunch of people pretending to be artists.
@nothde9865
@nothde9865 4 года назад
I too cower at the horror of a shitty painting.
@Oxideacid
@Oxideacid 4 года назад
@Rush In The only thing creative about some dude splashing paint randomly on a canvas is... well... Nothing.
@rubenmontoya3324
@rubenmontoya3324 5 лет назад
Throw a bucket of red paint on a painting Everyone: beautiful, genius, very well thought out!!!
@dizzychineseman7445
@dizzychineseman7445 5 лет назад
I love the presintation
@everydaynormalguy2484
@everydaynormalguy2484 5 лет назад
When I do it in school i get baddest rating :(
@rubenmontoya3324
@rubenmontoya3324 5 лет назад
Huginix your teacher has more knowledge of art than these ppl then
@davelawandra6578
@davelawandra6578 5 лет назад
I'll give you $9000000000000000000000000000 Dollars!!!! Take my f****** money!!!!!!
@uttiboii4168
@uttiboii4168 5 лет назад
Jacob Montoya Someone paints a human on canvas* Everyone: awful, dumb, so unoriginal!!!
@walterbyrd8380
@walterbyrd8380 8 лет назад
I wonder if photography contributed to the demise of real art? Once we had photography, there was less need for accurate depictions to be painted. It was more efficient, and accurate, to just take a photo. So instead of artists painting what they see, they paint what they feel.
@walterbyrd8380
@walterbyrd8380 8 лет назад
***** I did not copy and paste anything. It is a real opinion. Kind of rude to make baseless accusations, don't you think?
@walterbyrd8380
@walterbyrd8380 8 лет назад
***** Here is what I posted: "I *wonder* if photography *contributed* to the demise of real art?" So please don't put words in my mouth.
@oremfrien
@oremfrien 8 лет назад
+walter byrd Yes, photography contributed to the demise of photo-realistic art because art no longer had to reflect exactly how the world was. The Impresionists, Cubists, Surrealists, and numerous other movements concerned themselves with truly capturing emotions they felt or describing unreal conditions. I personally love the Surrealist Dali and the Absurdist Magritte, but these are people who are clearly talented and showing portals into emotion with clear and understandable images. There is no excuse for this current postmodernism where a person paints like a five year old or makes dots and dashes and considers it art.
@frankshang8718
@frankshang8718 8 лет назад
What do you mean by "real art"? By that do you mean what was called 'salon art'? Well yes, in a way photography did contribute to the demise of that type of art which was based on algorithms and technique. No matter how good your technique was, you couldn't beat a photograph in terms of realism so painters such as Monet and Degas started down a different route with Impressionism. I adore Monet because his paintings conveyed something that photography never can with brush strokes and viewer interpretation. Van Gogh later on was still very much real art. I now think that photography itself is starting to become too technical, just like salon art was back in the 1800s. Nevertheless, paintings and photographs are very different in art but photographs are definitely still art and what I myself would call real art. I also strongly agree with the "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" mindset. That said, the modern art movement is just not technical enough. But still, it is art.
@watcher102030
@watcher102030 8 лет назад
+walter byrd Yeah but sometimes some really shitty, boring, blank photos are taken and sold as modern art
@spwol
@spwol 3 года назад
I can see a extremist old german group of the early 20th century manking this video. It is realy sad people really think modern art has less value than older art
@antelopefreeway214
@antelopefreeway214 11 месяцев назад
The message here seems to be, in large part, that everyone should "follow the rules, stay in line" and that "exploring and experimenting is mostly bad." What a bland world this message describes.
@vinesthemonkey
@vinesthemonkey 5 месяцев назад
ironic considering the modern art is just following the rules of art critics, where people are afraid to give their actual opinions
@HeyDudeYouSuck
@HeyDudeYouSuck 5 месяцев назад
I agree with both you and the @vinesthemonkey guy. The 2 follows the very same thing, just different bs to follow. Hate the game not the player I guess.
@IEnjoyBeingNaked
@IEnjoyBeingNaked 9 лет назад
Most modern art is essentially just a gross-out competition to see who can smear the most bodily fluids everywhere, either that or it's a competition to see who can put the least effort into doing something, random paint splotches, dots and even blank canvases are considered art nowadays. If you put more time and effort into thinking up an explanation for why your work is art than you do actually making it, then it's probably shit.
@catchy_name170
@catchy_name170 9 лет назад
Uhhh... just wanted to let you know anime is generally considered modern art... soooo yeah.
@Cynos2010
@Cynos2010 9 лет назад
Catchy_Name Even anime has more meaning and skill than modern "art".
@catchy_name170
@catchy_name170 9 лет назад
Alvaro Ceballos Anime still falls into the modern art category. The reason is because it was invented after the industrial revolution. That's when the modernist age began. You could say that anime is just another form of realism, but it fails to use normal body proportions. For example, the eyes are generally larger then real life. along with little detail of the face (other then the eyes) and massive amounts of detail on the hair and clothes. (You might come up with a counter-example of this) This doesn't fall into the category of art forms this video addresses like neoclassicism. If anything, the broad spectrum of modern art is often dwindled down to forms like cubism and modernism by people like you who fail to understand what modern art is. Works like these are even modern art: static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Travel/Pix/pictures/2012/1/25/1327493189818/Mizuma-Art-Gallery-Tokyo-001.jpg i.imgur.com/SjcvdN4.jpg
@catchy_name170
@catchy_name170 9 лет назад
***** Have you ever taken an art history class? If yes, then I hope you didn't fail it. Art history focuses more on the people who shaped what art is, not on the different forms of art. I can understand where your coming from, because in your mind, modern art is really just cubism, modernism, and minimalism. Modern art really isn't a category, its a term given to the many forms of art invented during and after the industrial revolution.
@stupid_ass_smiling_dog
@stupid_ass_smiling_dog 9 лет назад
Catchy_Name I'm google searching "modern art" but I'm not finding any pics of anime.
@not_an_undercover_cop
@not_an_undercover_cop 7 лет назад
I'm an artist and I find this video highly offensive. My last piece was chickenwire wrapped around a ladder with a bucket of money on top. It represented how the cowardly chickens in our corporate society prevent us from climbing the ladder of success. Who are you to say that it's not art? Nah, I'm just kidding :) I made that up. I'm not an artist. I'm just in my garage and there's some chickenwire and ladder next to me (no buck of money though!). Just shows how easy it is to throw something together, justify some shoehorned political message, and call it art.
@xhippipelo5104
@xhippipelo5104 7 лет назад
Wheatley oohhh, a JOKE??!! its not real?? i wouldnt ever imagined it, thank you for making it public
@drzerogi
@drzerogi 7 лет назад
Take a dump at the bottom of the ladder and you just might get your work in a museum.
@DavidRodriguez-ux5ye
@DavidRodriguez-ux5ye 7 лет назад
CryingWife I actually gonna said that you are a very bad artist if you did that
@toontic1543
@toontic1543 7 лет назад
Show us a picture and we'll be the judge.
@joannem1958
@joannem1958 6 лет назад
CryingWife you're not an artist, you're just pissed off Real art can be beautiful, art isn't the only area where you will find "hacks" , just folks who suck at their jobs. o did I say the truth, yes ! go home now crybady really wife _ bet your husband has a mancave full of modern art, beer signs lol
@wrlord
@wrlord 4 года назад
And this before the "art community" started demanding that the skin color of the artists had to be factored in to what is "good art".
@krs7934
@krs7934 4 года назад
Please America just throw out the leftism off of your country already.
@rahulmalik1083
@rahulmalik1083 4 года назад
leftists will only leave after devouring the culture of a country like termites . Happens in every country , but in US it has reached its final form .
@smallvalleyproductions9103
@smallvalleyproductions9103 3 года назад
i mean, isn't, only accepting art by white artists kinda, already discriminating based on race? From what i've read, it's less about shoehorning in people of other races, and more about shining a spotlight on artists that may not have had the chance to meet important people, or didn't have any connections to get themselves off the ground, despite fantastic talent
@tarawrr20
@tarawrr20 3 года назад
I’ve been saying this for years, since I was a young teen! Most modern art is a disgrace and horrendous to look at. Seeing the praise for art that could be a child’s finger paintings is especially infuriating!
@ma-wp8sf
@ma-wp8sf 2 года назад
How so?
@jessstapf426
@jessstapf426 2 года назад
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@HalalDripCat
@HalalDripCat 3 месяца назад
​@@ma-wp8sf In a nutshell most modern Art you see on art museum nowadays are just bunch of stupid crap that is handled by a lazy unprofessional greedy people Its like letting a bunch of people that have no knowledge in Math create new formulas without knowing anything
@hellavadeal
@hellavadeal 10 лет назад
All part of the dumbing down of humanity. i am an artist that likes to paint things that people can tell what it is about. Do not sale much because "it isn't modern enough". A painting done by throwing paint in front of a jet engine, though fun to watch, is not art. Yet the man that does it gets thousands of dollars for it.
@TheHyperrealist
@TheHyperrealist 10 лет назад
Bullshit. If you made art on par with Vermeer or Rembrandt you'd be very fucking successful.
@hellavadeal
@hellavadeal 10 лет назад
TheHyperrealist Both of those men died in poverty.
@TheHyperrealist
@TheHyperrealist 10 лет назад
hellavadeal So what? There a many very successful painters alive painting things that look like things. Chuck Close, Will Cotton, Jeremy Lipking, Odd Nerdrum, Daniel Sprick, etc etc etc
@hellavadeal
@hellavadeal 10 лет назад
TheHyperrealist Yes there are some. Have you ever had to deal with the art dealers and critics? There is a racket in it. Insides always get a ride. Outsides are lucky to get a show. I have lived off it for many years, but it is always not enough to get by. So like most , i work. Don't take yourself so serious.
@TheHyperrealist
@TheHyperrealist 10 лет назад
hellavadeal What you say doesn't make this guy any less stupid.
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