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Why is precision timekeeping so important? - with the National Physical Laboratory 

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@stevepartridge2959
@stevepartridge2959 10 месяцев назад
Very interesting and informative, but I do wish they could come up with a different mic system hate hearing mouth noises.
@BDD201
@BDD201 10 месяцев назад
Maybe they aren't familiar with newer technologies?
@dilipdas5777
@dilipdas5777 10 месяцев назад
​@@BDD201which technology is best? Far field microphone?
@samueld92
@samueld92 10 месяцев назад
This guy just needs to get the spit out of the corners of his mouth. Like, dude.
@DrDeuteron
@DrDeuteron 10 месяцев назад
Faraday be like:😮
@RFC3514
@RFC3514 10 месяцев назад
Well, most talking involves mouth noises. Unless you talk out of, well, some other place.
@henktl3580
@henktl3580 10 месяцев назад
I think the next lecture should be one by a professional sound engineer, on how to prevent unwanted mic noise.
@mariusvanc
@mariusvanc 10 месяцев назад
And someone who can tell the presenters to quit their lip smacking. And maybe take a sip of water once in a while.
@WhileTrueCode
@WhileTrueCode 10 месяцев назад
yup, couldnt get through 40 seconds of the recent "What is a white hole?" video either for the same reason. supposedly eating a green apple beforehand would fix it
@RFC3514
@RFC3514 10 месяцев назад
15:16 - I bet they use that one as the punch clock for their employees. "Ah, Jennings, I see you were 0.00000000014405 seconds late yesterday."
@koenth2359
@koenth2359 10 месяцев назад
7:40 Not all of the rotational enery that is lost due to tidal friction is turned into heat, another part is put into potential and kinetic energy of the Earth-Moon system, by slightly increasing their distance.
@jedgould5531
@jedgould5531 10 месяцев назад
33:16 I never heard the nature of the ‘crisis,’ i.e., the exact timing dependency risks. Did Leon Lobo ever specify what the actual costs were, despite his continued dramatization, of loosing timekeeping accuracy? Yes, I can imagine some of them in the most general way, but this is an RI lecture! Maybe I missed it, but it seems like he assumed his audience was already familiar. Anyone else notice?
@Epicurus631
@Epicurus631 7 месяцев назад
Yeah it was not well explained, the map had too large scale to be relevant for the “crisis”. Also the interception seemed to be solely on the Israeli side and green in the Gaza side. Don’t understand what was his point.
@shantanusapru
@shantanusapru 9 месяцев назад
Amazing talk!! Very informative & interesting!!
@borislab8153
@borislab8153 10 месяцев назад
Really exciting talk! It's very interesting to hear about how complex it is to keep time worldwide in sync! But for several years I was wondering: who decided to build the time measurement on the sexagesimal system? Why did one choose to measure the time in 2 x 12 hours, minutes, seconds and so on? I found one hint that in some eastern areas of turkey they still use 12 to count until today (you count with your thumb using the 12 bones of the fingers!) Is there any info or source you can suggest?
@Kargoneth
@Kargoneth 10 месяцев назад
Babylonian.
@borislab8153
@borislab8153 10 месяцев назад
thank you very much. this helps! :) @@Kargoneth
@andycordy5190
@andycordy5190 10 месяцев назад
A very interesting subject. Also very interesting is how the title page shows a different man to the presenter of the talk. Was there a related presentation immediately before this one which was presented byx someone else?
@onlyeyeno
@onlyeyeno 10 месяцев назад
I believe that the man on the "title page" is Mr "Leon Lobo"(?), who starts his presentation @33:09. Though I don't think it as impossible that different versions of "title pages" are presented to different viewers, all in the quest to" maximize engagement"
@JohnChrysostom101
@JohnChrysostom101 4 месяца назад
I'm pleasantly surprised it's not i was going to say something
@0VistaDelMar0
@0VistaDelMar0 9 месяцев назад
Sir Sanford Fleming, who worked as an engineer for Canadian railways
@koenth2359
@koenth2359 10 месяцев назад
57:00 In order for dopplershifts to be within a fraction 10^-18, the speed must be less than 3×10^-10 m/s. With an atomic mass of 173.04, an Ytterbium ion has a mass of around 2.87•10^-25 kg Boltmann's constant is 1.38•10^-23 J/K, meaning that thermal kinetic energy averages to 0.5 mv^2 = 0.5 × 1.38•10^-23 T (per dimension). Plugging the found mass and maximum speed into this and solving for T gives T
@Amethyst_Friend
@Amethyst_Friend 9 месяцев назад
Try Physics stack no one’s gonna know that here
@HaukeLaging
@HaukeLaging 10 месяцев назад
Berlin is much closer to London than the moon. So if 10^-18 is one atom diameter to the distance to the moon I guess if the distance between those cities "changes" by an atom width then this introduces an uncertainty much higher than 10^-18... Would have been interesting to hear something about how this is addressed.
@katiebarber407
@katiebarber407 10 месяцев назад
thin started off kind of boring but the final presenter made it sound so much more interesting and relevant . what a 'time' to be alive 😎
@Robinson8491
@Robinson8491 10 месяцев назад
Isn't the optical clock the best way to measure the gravitational potential?
@kayakMike1000
@kayakMike1000 10 месяцев назад
What is an optical clock?
@daverz15
@daverz15 10 месяцев назад
@@kayakMike1000 ​An optical clock is the clocking of the frequency of light returned when passed through a particular atom - as opposed to clocking the frequency of the atoms constituent parts (which is an atomic clock)
@hochathanfire0001
@hochathanfire0001 10 месяцев назад
Optical clocks ⏰, where can I get those? 100 times better than the Caesium ones, interesting.
@Kargoneth
@Kargoneth 10 месяцев назад
If you want a fault-tolerant and resiliant system, then you should make a distributed timing infrastructure that anyone can use and participate with. Imagine every willing computer around the world.
@EvoraGT430
@EvoraGT430 9 месяцев назад
13:30 works fine.
@jantonkens9820
@jantonkens9820 10 месяцев назад
It's a shame there wasn't the option to ask questions (or it wasn't recorded) as I would love to have heard the answer on "why" on the last subject: I understand that with optical clocks we can measure time more precise than with the current Cesium based clocks and it was said "thus we need a new definition of the second"; but I didn't hear actually why... That we're able to do it doesn't perse mean that you have to. What is with the current second that requires a new definition other than that it is possible: what new does it allow?
@DrDeuteron
@DrDeuteron 10 месяцев назад
The second is defined in terms of a cesium atom.
@R.o.Ro.
@R.o.Ro. 10 месяцев назад
They did explain why. We can measure more parts in a second and measure more interval periods to determine passage of time at smaller intervals which allows us to gauge distances and age of things to a higher degree of accuracy based on these values. For the layman it doesnt matter. For people involved in fields like cosmology, astronomy, spaceflight and other specialised industry, we can calibrate things to better accuracy.
@savage22bolt32
@savage22bolt32 10 месяцев назад
In the description. You have to purchase a membership.
@Robinson8491
@Robinson8491 10 месяцев назад
Why did we need to change the meter from a physical rod to a lightbeam? Because it is more reliable
@katiebarber407
@katiebarber407 10 месяцев назад
because line goes up, and people with money need the line to go up to make their money turn into more money...
@sarcasmo57
@sarcasmo57 10 месяцев назад
I have a Casio watch.
@kevinm.1565
@kevinm.1565 10 месяцев назад
A.I. tech could fix the audio fairly easily - removing all the extra sounds. RU-vid will probably have a one click option to fix the audio within a year.👍
@davidhardy9419
@davidhardy9419 10 месяцев назад
Why does the metrology community want to introduce a global system to measure time orders of magnitude better? Nothing was said about real world advantages. Doesn't it make resilience orders of magnitude more difficult?
@JustNow42
@JustNow42 10 месяцев назад
No mention of that time is quantum. It actually seems quite messy to try and harmonise clocks at different gravity levels.
@koenth2359
@koenth2359 10 месяцев назад
Are you referring to planck time? I'd say since that is of the order of 10^-44 s the 'granularity' of time would not be noticeable
@hochathanfire0001
@hochathanfire0001 10 месяцев назад
A new definition of time is one the way 🥳🔥🔥🎉💃.
@ericdavis1374
@ericdavis1374 10 месяцев назад
Someone always whines about the sound it's free live with it
@jameschristiansson3137
@jameschristiansson3137 10 месяцев назад
Coordinated Universal Time intones the lonely man's voice from Fort Collins / Boulder.
@radic888
@radic888 9 месяцев назад
Turns out the Doctor is right: time IS Whibberley wobbly.
@ShuoreBangla
@ShuoreBangla 10 месяцев назад
Good
@Deipnosophist_the_Gastronomer
@Deipnosophist_the_Gastronomer 10 месяцев назад
Mean Solar Time really hurt me. 😜
@ModernProjectManager
@ModernProjectManager 10 месяцев назад
wow, it's like listening to someone archaic trying to defend a concept that doesn't exist. a rock spinning time piece. Timelessness to emergence of time.
@tonyevans9999
@tonyevans9999 10 месяцев назад
gosh, I have to bail, I cannot cope with the microphone extraneous noise.
@0VistaDelMar0
@0VistaDelMar0 9 месяцев назад
what about one Mississippi
@strech5412
@strech5412 9 месяцев назад
Kahnemann’s Focusing Illusion - when a top time scientist wastes their career on developing microsecond time stamps for stock markets that should instead be legislated to minimum hour-length timestamps. Markets don’t need gambling-enabling, they need simplified, understandable, regulation by governments.
@viktorthegreat3594
@viktorthegreat3594 10 месяцев назад
Wooo
@psyboyo
@psyboyo 10 месяцев назад
Amazing technical solutions were presented, but fixing the annoying mouth clicks captured on microphones? Guess we'll get quantum gravity solved before that...
@psyboyo
@psyboyo 10 месяцев назад
First talk was particularly bad, that gentlemen seemed to be chewing cellophane.
@universeisundernoobligatio3283
@universeisundernoobligatio3283 10 месяцев назад
Maybe listen to what is said rather then how it is said.
@Onequietvoice
@Onequietvoice 10 месяцев назад
Lumch, obviously!
@hasato-e1
@hasato-e1 10 месяцев назад
I brew a cup of tea and prepare myself for a nice armchair science!
@theextragalactic1
@theextragalactic1 10 месяцев назад
@russellcarduk
@russellcarduk 10 месяцев назад
Less a scientific talk, more a long advert for NPL's expensive time service for financial markets, with the usual scare stories about GNSS outages
@ojoshiro
@ojoshiro 10 месяцев назад
It's not really. It is a completely created dependency.
@Eric-ro5fw
@Eric-ro5fw 10 месяцев назад
I was super interested to watch this but I can't handle the lip smacking mouth sounds.
@AZCaveMan480
@AZCaveMan480 10 месяцев назад
That mouth noise was nauseating, can't get past even one minute...
@donc-m4900
@donc-m4900 10 месяцев назад
Time isn't relative anyway😅
@cptrikester2671
@cptrikester2671 10 месяцев назад
Summary: TIME IS MONEY or at least the manipulation thereof.
@deltalima6703
@deltalima6703 10 месяцев назад
If they redefine the second, then that will change the definition of the meter! What a mess! I am switching back to inches and feet.
@alanmon2690
@alanmon2690 10 месяцев назад
Unfortunately, the inch is now defined as being exactly 25.4 millimetres. It got metricated around 1960.
@donc-m4900
@donc-m4900 10 месяцев назад
Nothing better than the classics.😅
@RFC3514
@RFC3514 10 месяцев назад
Changing the _definition_ and changing the _value_ are two different things. Also, inches and feet are actually defined as a submultiple of (you guessed it) the metre, so you'd still have exactly the same (non) problem. I say go back to Egyptian cubits or Indian yojana.
@katiebarber407
@katiebarber407 10 месяцев назад
americans just love feet, what can i say
@JustJunis
@JustJunis 10 месяцев назад
Pleaaaaaase... We appreciate you, Royal Institute. However, get your MIC straight. We want to listen to Input of Knowledge and not to Saliva and Schmatzen due to improper Audio-Settings. We've noticed this for almost a year now!!!!
@beeble2003
@beeble2003 10 месяцев назад
Yeah, there's far too much mouth-noise in these talks. It's really distracting.
@universeisundernoobligatio3283
@universeisundernoobligatio3283 10 месяцев назад
Maybe listen to what is said rather then how it is said.
@beeble2003
@beeble2003 10 месяцев назад
@@universeisundernoobligatio3283 Some people are sufficiently grossed out by things like this that they can't just ignore it. Emotional reactions like that aren't a conscious decision and telling people to just get over it really doesn't help.
@universeisundernoobligatio3283
@universeisundernoobligatio3283 10 месяцев назад
@@beeble2003 Some people are such butter cups, how did they ever live through early telephone, radio and TV audio.
@jackfrost3573
@jackfrost3573 10 месяцев назад
Accurate time is used for tax purposes only. Look the clock moved, time to raise taxes.
@bondmode
@bondmode 9 месяцев назад
The organizers, probably: Ah, yes, let's give the good michropones with good mouth noise filtering to the boring talks, and the rubbish microphones with every possible sound the internals of a mouth can make amplified, to the actual interesting talks. To even things out, you know
@JohnChrysostom101
@JohnChrysostom101 4 месяца назад
How is this guy halfway through going to teach us about precision time when he can't master the use of a toilet lol
@UQRXD
@UQRXD 10 месяцев назад
Atomic clock need for encryption that can't be cracked so easy.
@katiebarber407
@katiebarber407 10 месяцев назад
finance sector booooo. bunch of rich people making money from having money
@zeroonetime
@zeroonetime 10 месяцев назад
The NOW is now TIMING.
@katiebarber407
@katiebarber407 10 месяцев назад
free palestine
@SuperBongface
@SuperBongface 10 месяцев назад
his mouth smacking really erks th out of me. Drink some water before you give a lecture
@beeble2003
@beeble2003 10 месяцев назад
It's the microphone. The same thing happens with most other RI talks.
@SuperBongface
@SuperBongface 10 месяцев назад
@@beeble2003 So you're telling me that the RI can't afford better microphones?
@SuperBongface
@SuperBongface 10 месяцев назад
@@beeble2003 RODE ftw
@beeble2003
@beeble2003 10 месяцев назад
@@SuperBongface I'm telling you that the audio of RI lectures consistently includes intrusive mouth noises, regardless of who's speaking. It might not literally be the microphone, but it's the audio set-up in general. No other channel has this problem.
@lenwhatever4187
@lenwhatever4187 10 месяцев назад
So the reason accurate time is important is so some rich mucky muck can play money games without bringing the money markets to their knees.... not much else. Knowing where the ship is right now is nice though. I can't really think of a another reason knowing time better than 2 or 3 seconds matters Most people still respond with times like "half past" or "a quarter to" anyway. The main purpose of metric seems to be the dehumanization of units. Like we had 100mm of rain, whats wrong with 4inchs or even 10cm. even computers don't think in 10s. We can send people to the moon with only 3 significant digits, I'm less impressed than some. When the sun comes up, it is still time to get up. Whatever UTC might say.
@bombfog1
@bombfog1 10 месяцев назад
Let’s see if we can get through one talk without leftist talking points…or any political points for that matter.
@DavidRDavidRoss
@DavidRDavidRoss 10 месяцев назад
Cry harder fascist. 🤡
@asdfasdfasdfasdfzzzz
@asdfasdfasdfasdfzzzz 10 месяцев назад
Blee blee blee blah, there are more important things in life dawg
@R.o.Ro.
@R.o.Ro. 10 месяцев назад
Like what?
@chinmayoak4398
@chinmayoak4398 10 месяцев назад
What is not leftist is of the right and vis-a-vis. No political point is also being political in some way. My point - take the facts, decide on your opinion
@mcdermottpa
@mcdermottpa 10 месяцев назад
That is difficult given that facts have a well known leftist bias.
@Gringohuevon
@Gringohuevon 10 месяцев назад
so dull
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