Why It's IMPOSSIBLE To Get "YouTuber Guitar Tone" At Home

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Why Your Guitar Tones NEVER Sound Like The RU-vidrs You Watch And Copy.
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@KeyanHoushmandLive 2 месяца назад

The elephant in this room is really, really big.

@user-kh8dz4yp6e 2 месяца назад

Yo mama

@KeyanHoushmandLive 2 месяца назад

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@LeeJoRo 2 месяца назад

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@gafuraskarov2814 2 месяца назад

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@RX120D 2 месяца назад

The only thing I'd disagree with here is the suggestion that the wood of the guitar is going to affect tone (ie: the actual frequency spectrum balance) in a meaningful way. Literally everything else is spot on. One other thing though, its pretty clear that you're fed up of Glenn's claims. The thing is he's not catering his videos to people like you and I. He's targeting the kid at home with the Harley Benton guitar plugged into a hand-me-down mid 2000's Line 6 Spyder. Tonewood, pickups, hardware, cables, etc... don't mean shit at the beginner level. Glenn is 100% on point in encouraging young or inexperienced guitarists to stay the fuck away from the esoteric shit and actually get some bang for their buck. When you get to the level that you and I'm sure a lot of your audience is at, chasing those diminishing returns does indeed become worthwhile. Just miss me with the tonewood stuff. Appreciate your sentiment on this video though. Its a good PSA.

@Marco_Aleman 2 месяца назад

The real friends were the tones we made along the way .

@rickjames5684 2 месяца назад

Amen

@KeyanHoushmandLive 2 месяца назад

real

@rickjames5684 2 месяца назад

@@KeyanHoushmandLive talk

@Emily_M81 2 месяца назад

best answer

@Xenbjorn 2 месяца назад

You can still make your tone sound similarly to what you want so long as you make the minor tweaks to your sound to compensate for the differences in instrument hardware and electronics.

@sids8nrazor355 Месяц назад

Hey Keyan, I would like to chime in as an audio engineer and guitar player. The hardware: -Guitar mass and the material the guitar is made out of is absolutely irrelevant due to the fact that the strings are passing through a magnetic field that produces a low voltage current referred as the "guitar signal". -the wood of the guitar affects how the instrument sounds acoustically , since the wood will absorb and amplify certain frequencies, it cannot generate enough energy by itself in order to be able to transfer it onto the strings in order for it to be picked up by the pickups. Wood however can have an quantifiable impact on the duration a string is able to produce sound, or in other words sustain. -Different pickups do affect the signal when we only talk about gain ( passive or active pickups are highly dependent on how many times the copper was wound up in the coil itself),physics wise it is impossible to alter the sound like an equalizer. -You have also mentioned how pick-up height is directly linked to the sound being more robust or clean, this can be brought back to gain. -The cable does not affect the sound unless it is being passed through or in the vicinity of cables that are passing through higher voltages, as it will pickup noise through electromagnetic interference. -The interfaces that are being used could possibly affect the sound but only slightly as most manufacturers try to achieve a very clean signal that doesn't color the sound. I would argue that gain staging in this instance is more important than all of the above since a weaker signal will distort less and the amp will generate less harmonic overtones or distribute them differently. And regarding generating tones, the hardware that is used to playback the sound are important such as studio monitors in an acoustically treated room, what type of headphones/ IEMs(which are more prone to biased EQs from manufacturers) and so on.

@stevekirkby6570 Месяц назад

Also (retired) audio engineer here: Yes the cable *can* affect the tone - long cables can sap the treble. Some swear by short expensive cables for recording. Personally, it has never bothered me, but the issue does exist. Those same cables are unsuitable for live use as too inflexible, and basically too bright for live work without adjusting the amp. But really, as you mention other factors aremuch more important.

@LuLeBe 23 дня назад

Yeah long cables do sound different. I'm not sure at which point, and I don't use expensive ones, but obviously you can't (even without extension interference) play from LA into an amp in Florida and expect any signal to arrive there. Debatable if it's 5m, 10m or 30m of cable to hear a difference. Pickups clearly color the sound. Physics wise it's actually impossible not to do that unless you live in that theoretical physics world without friction etc that we know from school. But they don't (unless they're active and include circuitry for that) add any content, so you can equalize them via EQ.

@potentialbouldercrusher9159 13 дней назад

The mass and the material the guitar is made of has an impact on the tone since the wood vibrates, and the pickups are mounted in the wood. Therefore the vibration of the body affects how the strings are moving in relation to the pickup, which is what actually matters. Most of the time the differences are minor, though. Pickups do change the EQ. Watch any comparison videos. The polepieces/bar magnets dictate the shape of the magnetic field. The coils in the pickup and how they are wound give you different resistance, inductance and capacitance, which in turn affect the response (induced voltage) to different frequencies. Again, the differences might not be huge, but saying it's physically impossible for the pickup to affect the EQ structure is simply not true.

@Durkhead 2 месяца назад

I blame youtube audio compression

@maxalaintwo3578 2 месяца назад

You’re not gonna replicate Spotify or Apple Music tone perfectly either

@nicholasmullins3693 2 месяца назад

So RU-vid audio compression alternately makes things so bad you can't tell the minute differences between tone woods, and better than what you can get in person? 😂

@jannik-x 2 месяца назад

RU-vid videos, as long as you watch in 720p or above, have higher audio quality than most premium music streaming platforms. That's definitely not it.

@gigafuq8751 Месяц назад

@@jannik-x exactly, you can actually hear the improvement on RU-vid through audio monitors vs spotify

@belligerentamateur Месяц назад

the compression is not nearly what you think. it makes minimal difference

@xxdr34m5xx_4 2 месяца назад

Shots fired towards Glenn 😂😂

@Mrvegas6666 2 месяца назад

Yeah, I'll listen to Glen over a guitarist any day.

@Wizzerman95 2 месяца назад

I really think everyone took away the wrong point. Pickups do make difference but if you really need dramatic change in sound, it shouldn’t be the first thing you change.

@phantomtearsca 2 месяца назад

@@Mrvegas6666 Glenn is a dumbass

@AverageHomelessMan 2 месяца назад

@@Wizzerman95 bingo

@somepurplerandom1519 2 месяца назад

@@Wizzerman95the only difference in pickups is gain/output or how hot it is.

@scotthornsey 2 месяца назад

I'm still not convinced that tonewood matters in electric guitar tone. But I fully agree that the pickups, setup and player make a huge difference. I'm a djenty boi and play an Ibanez RGMS7 in drop F#, my tone has a metric f*ck tonne of top end in it, but my mate came round and played my guitar and said "why does it sound sh*t when I play it" and when he was playing it all the top end disappeared... We decided it was because he picks like a lil bish

@johntravoltage959 2 месяца назад

yeah, I really find that the biggest difference is in the pickup position/string height over pickups. Recently I've been messing around with building a guitar, with a set of bareknuckle pickups that are the same as a set in an ibanez 26.5" 7 string I have. I wanted to test some weird setups so we decided to just make a spacer, screw a saddle into it and place pickups on the table, while my mate got some pliers and stretched the string out, braced on the table, just guessing a scale length that ended up being about 26". With the tonewood being a random ass wood block, a benchtop, and my mates muscles/bones braced against the workbench, when we matched the pickup height/position of bridge, it sounded ridiculously similar, and even had a very similar profile in EQ...

@mikepollackguitar 2 месяца назад

😂

@xSirEnderx 2 месяца назад

Yeah tonewood is a myth with electrics. The sound you hear from the amp is simply the vibrations from the strings affecting the electromagnetic field of the pickups. Any component that isn’t in direct contact with the strings themselves have zero impact on the way those strings vibrate. Im not even sold on bridge, nut, etc having that huge an impact in tone. I believe any tone change from hardware to hardware is marginal at best. Tone, in my opinion, is 100% strings and pups. And even then, you can make any pickup sound like another with enough EQ.

@khairulpoka7623 2 месяца назад

@@xSirEnderx Different bridge tottaly gonna make different tone for Palm Muting part, i have 2 guitar, one with tune 0 matic, one with the original edge trem, but both using the same pickup Duncan Distortion, same string gauge and same tuning. Trem Bridge definitely have more aggresion, more tight chugging and more tight low end. but if you just do the normal strum on both guitar, it will be sound the same but not for chugging tone.

@Emily_M81 2 месяца назад

@@khairulpoka7623 I concur. I have to palm mute differently on my guitars with Tune-O-matic style vs FR style. It's easier for me to be clean on the FR, and palm mutes are a little "woolier" on my matic guitars. I have to adjust my hand differently to get similar sorts of palm mute notes.

@adamlutz1994 2 месяца назад

All fantastic points. I’d like to add that I feel like a lot of modern guitarists are using top down mixing. So their master chain also affects the guitar tone. Great points nonetheless

@josuastangl7140 2 месяца назад

Whether "top down" or not, yes most mixes on you hear on youtube have compression and limiting on the master and that also makes quite the difference when it comes to dynamics

@adamlutz1994 2 месяца назад

@@josuastangl7140 💯

@jannik-x 2 месяца назад

Bro drank the tonewood koolaid 💀

@bellowick 2 месяца назад

Bro's watched one too many paul reed smith videos i think. Don't get me wrong PRS guitars look absolutely stunning, but zebrawood doesn't make your guitar sound any different to spruce when it comes to electric guitars (density of wood obviously effects acoustic tone).

@schleppvideos Месяц назад

as opposed to you whos been lapping up glenn frickers bullshit lol

@kaipilled Месяц назад

⁠@@schleppvideosyou’re so mad and for what? pickups don’t make a huge difference. all you have to do is change the eq and all it takes for you to see that, is experimenting with eq. but no, you wanna just sit there and state your own bs. lmao

@Seymourbutts-u1d Месяц назад

Glenn, Reed and kesha or whatever this dudes name is, should all get together and see who is the most full of shit.

@schleppvideos Месяц назад

@@kaipilled the point is that they do make some difference, watch the video (again) and open your fucking ears. and if what he says dont matter and can just be matched with eq, how bout you replicate his guitar tone and well see how far you get

@CZitoMusic 2 месяца назад

Really interesting topic. I was always wondering this myself. Thanks for the points and details!

@KeyanHoushmandLive 2 месяца назад

Thank you for watching!

@gvsd3 2 месяца назад

Very good video Keyan, this is a very clear and complete video about this topic, and the last point is spot on... all the things you explained is basically my guitar journey, from tweaking the hardware & guitar spec, to understanding the structure of a tone, spending years of tiresome tone shaping, and now Im at the point where I care more about my playing than anything else, and I want to sound like myself more than ever.

@adamfinlay169 2 месяца назад

Great video dude - also very humbling to see you still have to check your semitones haha

@JoshuaMRichard 2 месяца назад

Dude thank you for talking about this. I was actually thinking about it recently, I think it's an important topic and I definitely appreciate your commentary.

@Skepsis0Metal 2 месяца назад

To add to your final point, a huge huge factor in how your "hands" affect the final sound of the instrument is how in sync your hands are with each other. Especially with the more compression and overdrive modern amp settings are adding - if your pick attack is 100ths of a second out of sync with your fretting hand changing position then your note clarity is going to suffer and that's something you'll never fix in post. The further out of alignment your 2 hands are, the squishier and more muddy your tone becomes

@jigaddyjigs5908 2 месяца назад

great video its all the lil things that make a tone different to others thank you for the great infooo

@iuffjfu 2 месяца назад

Your spot on !! Great video

@TobyKBTY 2 месяца назад

Keyan I tried your preset on Nameless X using my shitty Ibanez Gio with 9-42s in drop D and it didn’t sound like your 7 string tuned to G# 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 these plugins and your settings must be wrong, not my approach to this tone!!!

@maximilianosantana5696 2 месяца назад

Thank you for the facts Keyan. Im trying to get new as i lay dying guitar sound and this really helps

@studysoundaudio 2 месяца назад

Your whole video is basically why we started sampling guitar libraries with specific gear and players. Great breakdown of everything! 🤙🏽

@Plastidon 2 месяца назад

Was just lurking on the twitch stream , sum sick tunes going on .

@KeyanHoushmandLive 2 месяца назад

More coming soon!

@mosquedadavid 2 месяца назад

Great video K. 🎸

@danieljones1782 2 месяца назад

Love this video 🔥

@Wind-nj5xz Месяц назад

0:28 That's what someone using a secret pedal would say!

@bolotskih675 2 месяца назад

all of this is for metal high gain with humbackers pickups - a bit. it all compressed and distorted. (even human voice became indistinguishable when distorted even thought our brain evolved to distinguish it.) its output level affects mostly the gain level you should set. that's it. wood - nothing finish - nothing pickup position and overall construction - yes. but not so much. I personally would put "player's hands" into this category on a par with setup, scale and so on. amp - yes. especially voicing cab - a bit speaker - A LOT mic and it position - A LOT phase when mixing - A LOT that's all you need to start from when you try to mimic a metal tone

@schleppvideos Месяц назад

kay make a video replicating someones tone with your gear then

@perrtown 2 месяца назад

Great vid!

@markusm4rk38 2 месяца назад

Nice points and I do appreciate this argument from someone with a more percussive djenty style of playing as I think I hear differences. But as someone has said, "Don't get mad, get evidense". I believe Glen as he has done the research including isolating elements such as strings, pick ups, body wood and cables. Also, speakers, cabinets, amps and tubes. Please do some high gain a/b comparisons as there seems to be only one person on youtube doing this with any depth atm.... and thats a bit polarised. We need someone else to compare with.

@brianmcdonald4039 2 месяца назад

Hey man, I think the point of the video was less about the tonal differences about strings, or pick ups or tone wood/etc. I believe it was more a statement on how they all add up to the difference in peoples tone they hear in videos like Keyans, and what they get from their own setup. Showing people that the tone videos, are more of a start point to getting the tone, instead of the end point.

@buricaliskan 2 месяца назад

Yesss absolutely agree with all points made!

@SonicDriveStudio 2 месяца назад

Good video man!

@KeyanHoushmandLive 2 месяца назад

Thanks bro, love the channel!

@AdamDallas 2 месяца назад

I agree with absolutely everything in this video, great stuff Keyan! Especially the hands. Guitar playing really is such a prime example of how the sum of everything is worth more than the price of individual parts kinda deal.

@nunolance23 2 месяца назад

On an electric guitar, I reckon that most of the tiny little details that some brands/people market as making a significant difference in sound (woods used/chambered or not/bridge type/nut and tuners materials/even paint used…) are actually mostly aesthetic and functional. Just watch Jim Lill’s videos on this. From my experience, what actually makes the most difference equipment wise is anything that influences the position and vibration of the string relative to the pickup. So that includes scale length, pickup position, pickup height, string action, string gauge. Everyone should play around with these parameters before buying into whatever is the latest “big thing” that someone is trying to sell. The point about the “tone being in the fingers” all about how each player approaches the guitar, which will definitely influence how the pickup captures the sound - which pick/fingers you’re using, how strong you’re picking/plucking, what techniques you’re using, the dynamics in your playing, etc etc. - a big part of why James Hetfield sounds like him is because of the way he picks for example, so you might get closer to the sound by getting a tone in the ballpark and getting the technique really close than the other way around.

@Kostaras4444 2 месяца назад

Excellent video 👏

@KeyanHoushmandLive 2 месяца назад

Thanks for watching dude!

@shredystevie2806 2 месяца назад

I'm pretty sure your my favorite guitar youtuber when it comes to the Breakdown and technical aspect of signal and tone. Thanks again for a wonderful video and explanation

@chad_kaya 2 месяца назад

Great vid! I’ve struggled with this for years. Recently, I commited myself to just trying to make my tone sound as best as I can with the gear I already have. Taking this approach really freed me from feeling like I have to make my tone sound like another guitar player. I think a lot of us fall in love with other guitarists tones and think we have to make it sound exactly the same.

@tonycarpaccio9550 2 месяца назад

When people are kind of new and they don't know they are listening to a double or quad tracked mixed recording being mimed on video, that's when they kind of despair about not being able to achieve what they are hearing. Not saying you are doing that of course, I'm just pointing out what I think can be pretty confusing for new guitarists sometimes. It's the same as listening to your fav artist though and trying to get their tone without realizing the guitars have been mixed along with several takes layered and panned etc.

@onkel44lekno 2 месяца назад

Agree with all the points, especially the last one. You're motivation for it, is spot on. The M80M is a fantastic guitar. I love everything about it, even the bridge. It sounds so good and has an amazing clarity, across all strings. I've always strung with a .70 guitar string at the bottom. But I've always wondered how it would sound with a .70 bass string. (Like Meshuggah did back in the day, now I don't know). I think it made the 8th string sound even better. I've recorded with it, and I'm thinking to my self, I can't just be imagining the difference. With the action and the pickup height I got it made the upper bass/real low mids sound even better. I appreciate your honesty and no bs approach to this topic.

@maxb7561 2 месяца назад

Good video man! I would add that the way you play your instrument will make you choose different guitars/amps that fit your playing the most!

@Raijinx13 2 месяца назад

I was gonna make a video about this as well . This is such a great video and great point that very much gets overlooked all the time.

@benjaminmuir1776 2 месяца назад

I agree with everything except the assertion that wood itself makes a major difference. If you've got the pickups and similar construction there, you're dead on.

@woocifer 2 месяца назад

As much as these elements can affect the tone, I really think you're missing a major portion here... they might be using those settings on the plugins or amps, but the major catalyst here is that they have a lot of either experience in mixing and mastering their tone, send it to their editor who may also be a sound engineer, and somewhat MOST importantly...they dial in their tone, and then they go back and run it through the actual cabinet IRs they've customized in order to get that proper mix down that sounds huge, rather than...you know, a single channel with some settings in generic sound chains. To say its in your hands is more about attack and emphasis than tone. The woods, bridge, all that, sure it helps to run confidence through the sustain or body of the signal coming through. The pickups are A HUGE portion of this as well, as they are wired and distanced to get certain pre-EQ elements for clarity or girth or whatever... But this video does not expose the actual reality of what goes on behind closed doors. And it all has to do with post production via different cabinets and mixing. No one will expose that cuz then everyone would sound the same.

@resington 2 месяца назад

Thank you sir. Very well explained.

@russelw.6288 Месяц назад

I knew i‘ll know every point still I watched. Great video. One thing tho where does the idea come from to use lighter strings if you can get a way with it? I typically go for 18-22pound string tension. Like 17-70 on 6 string 30“ scale for Drop G. And i like the tight sound with less de-tuning when hitting hard. Although i found myself playing 10-64 on a 28-30“ guitar on Drop #F which feels to flubby but i figured it gives me a more brutal sound. Now im really confused 😂😂😂😂

@dr.radical4152 2 месяца назад

Some pretty good points in this video. I was expecting for there to maybe be a mention of stereo imaging. One thing that i stupidly never realized for years is why modern heavy mixes sound good. STEREO. When I dialed in my first stereo patch on my hx stomp for my 8 string, it went from sounding dull and muddy to massive and present. Now of course you wont be recording in stereo, you'll want to double track, but for playing alone or to songs a stereo guitar patch with a slight bit of delay between the two cabs panned hard left and right will sound absolutely massive! I think that the post processing, engineering, and mixing is an often overlooked side of guitar tones. How you make other instruments sit with the guitar in a mix and make up for the guitars flaws is huge in my opinion.

@josuastangl7140 2 месяца назад

100%, not everyone has to equipment to play stereo, but being the only guitarist in my band, stereo tones make such a massive difference. Most of the time I just play two different amps and cabs left and right (in my Quad Cortex), without extra delay.

@eliteleaf5305 2 месяца назад

Why would anyone want delay in a rhythm tone tho? It would Make sense in a clean tone or a lead tone.

@josuastangl7140 2 месяца назад

@@eliteleaf5305 not a delay effect in the traditional sense, just one repeat on full wet with 5-30ms on only the left (or right) channel to get more stereo width. Although a more traditional delay effect (similar to reverb) can also be cool in rhythm tones for big chords, more ambient sections or arpeggiated riffs, but that‘s not what were talking about here.

@dr.radical4152 2 месяца назад

@@eliteleaf5305 When I did no delay between my two cabs it just sounded like a big mono signal. If you add a couple miliseconds of delay between two cabs on something like a helix it imitates the effect of double tracking guitar. It really is something

@bedaskun5312 2 месяца назад

Great video as always Keyan! Loved the emphasis on the pickups making a big difference, don't know when people started to think they don't lol.

@somepurplerandom1519 2 месяца назад

They don't make a difference in tone. Just how hot they are.

@bedaskun5312 2 месяца назад

@@somepurplerandom1519 nah frequency response absolutely makes a difference on the sound

@somepurplerandom1519 2 месяца назад

@@bedaskun5312 okay so what is the difference in frequency response

@bedaskun5312 2 месяца назад

@@somepurplerandom1519 how present certain frequencies are in the frequency spectrum, kind of how a EQ pedal would do. it's why some pickups will naturally sound more bright or kinda scooped, even when compared in a straight "guitar>clean channel amp" signal chain

@Prodbyrenno 2 месяца назад

I’ve had this question forever man thank you for this video

@shaunreiner7671 2 месяца назад

These are all fantastic points! I’ve also been told that when we hear music through RU-vid, it’s compressed and therefore changes the tone as well.

@kryoxchaoslegion1956 2 месяца назад

I agree with all points mentioned. IMO, most relevant factors are tuning/Scale length, Pickups and speackers (last one is a bit finicky). Good way to get around the sound difference is, again imo, picking the seen settings and then changing them by ear to get the desired result. If that does not work, then its probably due to the guitar, its hardware and setup. I, for example, have different presets when playing with headphones or speakers, because they sound vastly different

@vomito72 Месяц назад

Really realistic point of view! the most important in my modest opinion is the last one...Everyone sounds different with the exact same gear and setup. it's really easy to understand if you share a guitar with other guitarists

@nazman465 2 месяца назад

damn when did Keyan get so aggressive. Im so here for it 🤣🤣

@maciekcalm1 2 месяца назад

Everything you're saying is correct, but why you have never mentioned about you final mix before you upload any video to a RU-vid?

@rgmetal 2 месяца назад

Love that ibanez❤️ I only recently got very happy with my tone trying to do a northlane cover. Also a friend convinced me to put 105 gauge on my M80M and see how drop B will sound. Terrible idea? Propably, but only one way to find out

@yeserguitar 2 месяца назад

I totally agree to the points, well said dude. Every guitarist has to know how to do proper setup, use fresh and match-to-tuning strings for tracking, make sure the playing and articulation is on point. Everything starts with good source tone, good DI and playing. Rest is how we process the sound and if something sounds unhealthy, it'll be much harder to process for sure. Big pill to swallow for some, but it is what it is. Thanks for making this dude! One more point, I share my Neural presets with each cover and I put a readme just for this. I'm motivating people to work on the tone rather than dial it right away, because it's not gonna be the same at all. I also watch your Neural demos and explanations to check which guitar you are using. All those details pay off if one knows how to work on it. Cheers 🥂

@TKO_v2 Месяц назад

Keyan, can you do a video on adjustng the pickup height?

@rmunozcue 2 месяца назад

I 100% agree on everything you said. The thing that has made the most impact for my tones was realizing that if the guitar setup was ok for what I was going for and the part was recorded correctly, pretty much everything worked. I would also add that if the tones are for a recording, trying to play the parts to fit the tone that you are looking for is really important and it's probably worth experimenting with (for example playing closer to the bridge has an enormous impact, so do the picks that you use).

@dissonantgrooves 2 месяца назад

this, i tried copying a tone of yours a couple years back, but im playing with an agile 27" baritone seven string with emgs (swapping out soon) and an ebony fretboard tuned to drop f#/drop G. theres no way its gonna sound the same as a jackson with bareknuckles and thats when i learned my lesson. very well said 👏

@koryrowe 2 месяца назад

Excellent video.

@tusharjamwal 2 месяца назад

the most impactful and easy to control variable by far is the input gain of whatever FX chain you are copying. Always add a gain plugin before the input of your amp sim for example and increase or reduce gain to compensate for difference in levels caused by differences in pickups/placement or interface gain. After you have played around with that then you can think about changing pickup height or long term shifting to a different set of pickups if you like those better/they sound like the sound you want with less processing. The wood and stuff does make a difference but nobody can tell outside of A/B tests. If you heard one in context today and another replica with a different wood tomorrow, you won't be able to tell that they were different woods.

@JaredGunstonTV 2 месяца назад

agree! I've always played thinner gauge and adjusted picks accordingly because of how hard i play. Picks/Gauge and playing technique (good or bad) - definitely has its own signature, which is then run through the inputs. You demonstrated how hard you pick as well, and your riffs would sound muddy if you played any softer - harder playing - more topend. Great vid dude

@TheDrifteffect 2 месяца назад

Is that Ibanez the m80m and stock? Sounds so good on the low notes.!

@Andreas_tropicalwinter Месяц назад

I scratched my head a few times, why I couldn't get close to for example Plinis tone, even if I used the NeuralDSP plugin and his presets. I tried different guitars but couldn't get closer soundwise. Also the Rebea presets didn't sounded close either. One day I stumbled across a video explaining every pligin has a specific gain setting on the interface. After lowering the input gain quiet a bit, the presets started to sound like they should. So for me nothing made more of a difference than the input gain on the interface.

@kopan14 2 месяца назад

not to mention the room you're inside, this makes huge difference for real-life in-the-room tones even if everything else is the exactly the same

@christophernoble76 Месяц назад

a lot of them use plug ins so room and mic dont really matter

@kopan14 Месяц назад

@@christophernoble76 agreed (i have plugins, too), for jamming/ playing i never use plugins, it will never get to that fire-breathing power compared to real amps/cabs when you play inside your room lol

@Chris-gt9mg 2 месяца назад

So basically, ALL of the things make a difference? Great points dude, I’ve referenced your videos a lot when dialling in tones. I now just build a base tone I like then save a preset based off that for different guitars after modifying gain, eq etc. Would love to see you do tone sculpting on different devices - I know you use the QC live but maybe on some more affordable options like helix stomp?

@necroticpoison 21 день назад

Using amp sims for mixes (of other people's music) can show just how different source (DI) tones can be. The difference in gain and treatment of freq curve both in the amp, and before and after, is massively dependant on the DI. Remember to use a Hi-Z input without gain, fresh pick, fresh strings, pick well, and don't have strings that are way too thick for your tuning, also appropriate scale for that lowest string; you can get away with low in 25.5, but it does seem to sound better with each increase of scale length up to a point, for low-low tunings.

@mirco5530 2 месяца назад

I just got a new Cort 7string with modern fishman and was shocked how bad it sounded with my guitar tone for my other guitar. The fishman humbucker are so much more aggressive and with some changes to the tone they sound incredible.

@bezakn1420 2 месяца назад

You forgot to talk about the editing and post production mix

@KeyanHoushmandLive 2 месяца назад

I’m talking only about guitar tones in isolation, in a mix is a completely different story

@bezakn1420 2 месяца назад

@@KeyanHoushmandLive Ah okay, I think to get a good tone you just need to use the fortin nameless x and explore settings to find which is good for you

@klap00 2 месяца назад

@@KeyanHoushmandLive Who cares about isolated tracks lol, if the tone is "good" alone, one instrument trying to fill the full spectrum, it will choke the mix.

@TheLostpapers 2 месяца назад

@@KeyanHoushmandLive Hi! Thank you for this interesting video. However, I must agree with Bezakn, your youtube videos and all other youtube editors, all have great soundstage and fullness around the spectrum, even this one videos, where your sound does not feel like a mono track recording. I guess you definitely have some sort of post process right to enhance the recording in your DAW?

@KeyanHoushmandLive 2 месяца назад

@@TheLostpapers hey dude, thanks for watching! All the isolated tone demos you heard in this video and any other video I’ve ever made have only ever been made from plugins with no “trickery” or “special thing” added on top. It is the combination of all of the things talked about in this video, and a general tone that anyone can use at home. I hope this helps 🫶

@alexanderkendysh9071 Месяц назад

Wood doesn’t affect the sound. Meshuggah ibanez in the video sounds nothing like resonating wood. Cut everything and there will be no changes at all. Pickups and a huge scale length allows you to get higher string tension with less string thickness, and that gives you a brighter sound. Plus attack “inside” a guitar, like a slap on the bass, so the string will hit the fretboard and you will get punchy sound and no problems with intonation, because the string will just hit the frets and there will be no excessive up and down motion, that changes the base note and ruin your intonation. There is nothing more to it.

@cassdobbins1605 2 месяца назад

"In the room" tone is different from "finished product" tone because it's going through an extra filter with it's on eq (the mic), then eq'd again in post. Even raw room-mic tones are getting to your ears through the extra filter of the speakers of your phone, headphones, computer.

@johntravoltage959 2 месяца назад

I think the most important point that isn't mentioned enough, if at all by anyone else is the setup (mainly, the distance between pickups and strings) and the pickup position. Its insane how different a pickup can sound even by slightly adjusting the saddles, and in my experience with passive pickups, its a huge part of what makes the various guitars I own sound different, just from how the pickups are set up initially. Going through and normalising string height on all my guitars have an almost identical profile, even from random ibanez stock pickups to bareknuckle aftermaths, to the entry level bareknuckles. At the same time, they don't sound the same, and its obvious if you look at the EQ, but its enough to mean that you can plug them into a preset and it sounds like you'd expect the preset to sound (which imo, is a bit boring...)

@mikloszapori-regenhart6134 2 месяца назад

Jeez now i want one of that meshuggah 8 string it sound sooo nasty i love it. Great vid btw keep going❤

@sciomancy6 Месяц назад

Ive had my strings on for 3 months. Thanks for reminding me 😀

@burtosu86guitar Месяц назад

Not throwing shit or something but i have 5 guitars, 3 with emg and 2 passive and one of the passive is lower output, they all sound the same in plugins, all i need to do is boost the signal with the gain knob from my interface, i tried it with the same tuning. Im talking about metal/high gain stuff. In the graphics, they lock diferent but are allmoat the same tone/sound. Again, talking about high gain stuff, i never play acoustic. If you change the monitors or the interface, how hard you fret and hit the strings, strings.... it's another thing, you are right here 🤘🤘🤘

@dragonAwkward 2 месяца назад

Could not agree more. I actually bought the Ibanez Grg you reviewed a while back. The tone doesn’t sound any way near to how you demoed it. But that’s not the point. Tone should be something personal, and after spending some months with it, I can finally make it sound how I want it to. Also recorded my first single with it.

@capermote 2 месяца назад

Great watch and hilarious read of comments

@nickdowe4887 2 месяца назад

I have Seymour Duncan JBs in most of my guitars and playing through the same rig, no changes in the chain, my guitars sound vastly different. That said I have 4 ESP Eclipses each with a different pickup (Nazgûl, Black Winter, EMG 81, and a JB) and all of those sound different too.

@DerSilvano 2 месяца назад

Where can I buy your tone finger model? and what is the price for every finger each?

@KeyanHoushmandLive 2 месяца назад

DM me

@MopsLife 2 месяца назад

Yeah I went from an active Fishman Fluence Les Paul to a passive S type and I had to do so much tinkering with the tone cause it sounded wimpy on the passive, once I did some tinkering it sounded great, but then back to the actives it sounded way too much and had to dial it back again. Even had to change cabs to get a tone I preferred for each pickup, it’s never as easy as copy and paste

@MetalMan1245 Месяц назад

I think people like Glenn who seem to think nothing matters except the speaker do have a point, most elements of an electric guitar don't make much difference in context. Though one of this problems is he doesn't really tune below D, and I feel like once you get into the lower register of like B and lower the rules definitely do change.

@Telesko 2 месяца назад

Can you make a video on how to dial in a tone for really hot pickups like fishman's? All my tones sound good on my regular guitar but sound terrible on my active fishman's

@joederbyshire_ 2 месяца назад

just turn down the input gain to compensate bro the only difference is a level difference, i like keyan but pickups in themselves wont change the tone, the level going in to the amp from the pickup and the placement of the pickups are what makes the difference :)

@stevewoodyt 2 месяца назад

That Ibanez sounds similar to a thumb bass I had years ago. I had out some string son it. I think the e string was a .95 and then use just the bridge pickup. Wish I still had that bass.

@EricJamesVideo Месяц назад

Bravo. Excellent explanation. Tone chasers will never be happy. Granted I do copy settings from other users, but then tweak it to my taste and how my guitars responds to presets. Sure start with baseline settings then tweak it. Find your own sound. There's honestly too many tools out there and I've gone down rabbit holes myself. If you're chasing too much, you ain't writing riffs and songs.

@mattlombardi54 Месяц назад

Ok so I have to say this, I have an ltd jm2, bugera 1990 120w tube head and an older crate 4x12. Using the eq knobs and a precision drive I can get almost any modern metal tone I want. I have also done it with a $250 Dean guitar as opposed to a $1,400 guitar. I also have played a strat through that setup and it’s awesome as well. The point is, if your listening to tone through a phone and trying to emulate it something is wrong w

@CreaturessOfficial Месяц назад

If toan is in the fingers, when can I download impulse responses of all my favorite fingies???!!!

@brandongullion6353 Месяц назад

I've always been more of the mindset that using someone else's tone setup is more of a starting point, not an end result for anyone other than the original creator of that tone. You'll always need to tweak things based on your gear, setup and playing style. It's almost more of a "quick start guide" for people trying to achieve a similar tone. Great explanation of the variables that go into tone that many don't think about!

@Tanis1415 2 месяца назад

As a recomendation, words like Harsh or muddy, are not good representation of the tone, EQ graphs are, if you use an EQ analyzer plugin you will be able to demo the differences between all those guitars. I agree with pretty much everything you said, except by tonewood. Also the way the guitar is wired, tone knob vs no tone knob. treble bleed circuits. The more you add to the circuit the more you will see tonal differences.

@awmaace3397 2 месяца назад

Does resonance or sustain count as tone..???

@runxzze123 2 месяца назад

Thanks for this, my buddy and I have been saying all this for years

@thinasmemories 8 дней назад

I was able to pull an Adam Jones’s kinda guitar tone out of my Squier Classic Vibe Telecaster through a wampler tumnus into a jhs preamp overdrive and a UAFX dream 65. None of that made sense, but the tone worked. The guitarist and knowledge of the equipment (both hardware and software) make the tone. Having a good guitar helps, but i make most of my tones through Warman Destroyers (very cheap pickups) or with an sg with p90 or the telly. All of them sound massive and scary. One thing to note as well, when it comes to production, many double or quad track the guitars for a thick sound

@stevekirkby6570 Месяц назад

Great vid and yes - it's a combination of smaller effects that add up to big changes... another one: The sound in the room is not the same as the mic or di sound recorded - also the whole thing is affected by what you listen on and the compression of any streaming. Listening to what's coming out of your earbuds, soundbar or computer speakers is not going to be the same for all peope or indeed is not going to match the sound of say a 4*12 or of high quality studio monitors. Too many variables.

@123Ir0nman Месяц назад

The guitar/pickup choice is really important. So unless you have the same model of guitar you're going to need to do a lot of eq'ing. Easy fix - use a boss eq pedal to sculpt the guitar signal before it goes in the audio interface or amp.

@hexaldecima6839 2 месяца назад

I, too, exactly copied all your settings, but it sounded so bright and harsh on my end. Simply because I had Aftermaths BKP and a super bright maple finger board.

@shawnhits704 23 дня назад

i think the biggest issue is people just not knowing how to mix, EQ, double track, triple track, using left and right panning, etc

@a1rabidfox341 2 месяца назад

And the mix too right?

@---Alex 2 месяца назад

It's all about EQ. Moslty any guitar youtuber never show their EQ game.

@ThorsShadow 2 месяца назад

Yes. Also no. EQ plays a big part (that is the most obvious statement ever lol) but pretty much every "RU-vid guitar person" shows their EQ settings when they demo an amp or plugin or do a "how to get tone x/y" kind of video. No idea where you get that idea from.

@nzspike 2 месяца назад

I feel this. Watch Busters Oldehoms dailing in a guitar tone video, all makes sense.

@KeyanHoushmandLive 2 месяца назад

I’m talking about guitar tones in isolation. If you’ve ever watched me dial in an isolated tone, I’ve never put an extra EQ on it while I’m playing through it

@Wind-nj5xz Месяц назад

You guys are using EQ?

@masterofreality230 Месяц назад

I think the speaker and cab makes a bigger difference and sound better than more extreme eq settings.

@joshs5418 Месяц назад

I don’t know why i can’t figure it out lol. 20 years playing (10 professionally) and my playing technique is solid. I run a countryman 85 into an Apollo twin. I have 7 electric guitars that are all high quality with an assortment of high quality pickups in them. It’s not that my DIs don’t sound identical to RU-vid guys. It’s that the quality of them is just not good. I can run other DIs through just about any preset on an amp sim and it may not be tweaked for that particular guitar, but it always sounds good. Meanwhile i put my own DIs through the same sims and they just sound completely amateur, though the playing technique and the gear is all very solid and professional. I’m really at a loss lol

@Sadix99 Месяц назад

it's the speakers of the cabinet (or the IR), the bass bleding with it, how much the drums influence the rest and the mixing work of the music and the video (EQ, compression and other stuff in the daw). Things they never show you.

@aliensporebomb Месяц назад

Great video with good points BUT the vast majority of "average listeners" (especially youtube listeners) are not going to hear the minute differences in tone that an avid guitar player will hear. The OP who said his tone was muddy and flat probably was playing with too much gain or some other setting. That guy could have discussed his setup and someone with a similar setup with better results might offer helpful suggestions on helping the issues? Also, a guitarist who's played for just a few years versus a guy who's played 10 or more are going to get vastly different results. Subscribed!

@MrScrofulous Месяц назад

And I smirkingly play a Laguna Blue MM HT-6 as I watch. Mine hs the "P" inlay at the 12th fret though and the "Bulb" laser cut pups cover , so it sounds djentier.

@JohnSomerset0 2 месяца назад

🫡🫡 I also just finished your URM Bass midi fast track. You kill it dude 🔥

@effinericsloan 2 месяца назад

i liked the 11 11 plugin. but when i paid for it. i sounds way fuzzy, i could never get it dialed in. i could never get it to sound like yalls .but one thing i've noticed. is when youtubers do the guitar demo's every demo sounds the same.

@talewars Месяц назад

Its all in the hands baby

@henriklmao Месяц назад

Every Humbucker on any well setup can sound the same when you compensate for the differences to others. Same goes for single coils, just that single coils can't truly sound like Humbuckers. My pacifica sounds the same as my Jackson Infinity XLwhen I dial in the settings correctly. The Infinity just can't copy the neck-middle single coils of the pacifica