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Why it's So Hard to Make a Homemade LCD Screen? 

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What do you think, how difficult and most importantly expensive is it to make at least one working LCD pixel from Nokia 3310 display?

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@AppliedScience
@AppliedScience 2 года назад
Nice work! I'm really glad you were able to make your own diy LCD. Was the problem with the initial build the power supply (DC vs AC) or something else?
@Thoisoi2
@Thoisoi2 2 года назад
I think the problem was in my photoresist, which I used as a layer for making scratches on glass. When I substituted it with a PVA, it began to work.
@arifapwhaadi5048
@arifapwhaadi5048 2 года назад
@@Thoisoi2 Good Afternoon can I ask question I want know about( Red Sulfur) and (Yellow Sulfur) can you explain to me what they are. Thanks
@PS-nf3xw
@PS-nf3xw 2 года назад
@@Thoisoi2 up next, an LCD mask resin 3D printer! PLS
@JohnDuthie
@JohnDuthie 2 года назад
How much would this cost without the expensive signal gen? I'd like to try it with an Arduino.
@Hendreh1
@Hendreh1 2 года назад
@@JohnDuthie subtract 300€ by 250€ for the signal gen 😇
@trcostan
@trcostan 2 года назад
I’m really glad to see this! We did this back in 2010 in college with very little info! before we figured out using a thin coating over ITO slides we tried to use tape, glass, plastic wrap, two slides, 10Kv through a full slide etc! Finally we figured it out using thinned clear nail polish! Ours was trash tho because we didn’t think about a spin coater! But it’s really awesome to start from nearly scratch and figure things out yourself this was one of the most rewarding projects I have ever been apart of! We even won a contest at a conference!
@pauleohl
@pauleohl 2 года назад
In 2010 your research into LCD crystals would (likely) have been more fruitful in the library, rather than the laboratory, because the device had already been mass produced. I do appreciate that there are trade secrets and the info would not always be readily available.
@KermitFrazierdotcom
@KermitFrazierdotcom Год назад
Also they used laminated conductive rubber strips to easily align the tiny power connectors in watches an $1- stick-on clocks.
@louistournas120
@louistournas120 Год назад
Can't you just sandwich the glass, the LCD liquid, then another layer of glass, and crush it with some weight? Wouldn't that work? Another method apparently is to use microscopic glass beads between the 2 glass sheets.
@HeavenlyNovae
@HeavenlyNovae 8 месяцев назад
What college did you go to? I would like to make my own LCD!
@johno9507
@johno9507 2 года назад
As a kid growing up in the 80's I can't tell you how many LCD screens I pulled apart trying to see how they worked, but the only thing I discovered was how mad my dad got when I pulled his favourite lcd calculator apart. 😂
@johno9507
@johno9507 2 года назад
@MichaelKingsfordGray How exactly does that make me a liar? Show me where it's written that I have to use my first or last name to watch or reply to a bloody RU-vid video? The ONLY reason why you'd want my last name is for nefarious purposes. If you want to put your full name up for the world to see, well good for f***** you! I've dealt with enough identity theves and hackers to know better than to post my personal details for the world to see. 🇦🇺
@HeavenlyNovae
@HeavenlyNovae 8 месяцев назад
Was one of them using a DSM LCD instead of a TN LCD?
@johno9507
@johno9507 8 месяцев назад
@@HeavenlyNovae I was a kid, the only thing I knew was the pixies went in one way and numbers came out the other.
@HeavenlyNovae
@HeavenlyNovae 8 месяцев назад
@@johno9507 pixies?
@johno9507
@johno9507 8 месяцев назад
@TheAutisticTech Yeah...the electrical pixies that come out of a battery. 😉 (It's a silly name for electrons 🙂)
@Bigvs.Dickvs
@Bigvs.Dickvs 2 года назад
Many thanks for the hint on that DIY centrifuge. Simple and practical!
@srksii
@srksii 2 года назад
You cant beat Slavs at improvising
@rockytom5889
@rockytom5889 2 года назад
@@srksii No shit, our entire countries are improvisations!
@ocayaro
@ocayaro 2 года назад
Spincoater
@Bigvs.Dickvs
@Bigvs.Dickvs 2 года назад
@@rockytom5889 I'll let you know when I decide I should laugh or cry about my own country. Maybe I'll just improvise on it... Cheers from Portugal
@randaranatunga7259
@randaranatunga7259 2 года назад
Never have I ever thought of this question but now I want to know the answer😂 Also huge hit of nostalgia from the Nokia 3310 asteroid
@samsungtelevision695
@samsungtelevision695 2 года назад
My first phone. Never knew it’s “proper” name. Nostalgia hits so hard and primal I wonder how it evolved
@fixedguitar47
@fixedguitar47 2 года назад
I thought it said “Homemade LSD cost” My bad, carry on.
@Deathington.
@Deathington. 2 года назад
if only
@samsungtelevision695
@samsungtelevision695 2 года назад
Hamilton Morris crossover episode time
@hi_tech_reptiles
@hi_tech_reptiles 2 года назад
I thought I saw the same thing at first glance. Thats not hard info to get lol. It also can be sold for more though so ya kno....
@bloubear2557
@bloubear2557 2 года назад
Oh well, the search continues
@HomerSimpson514
@HomerSimpson514 2 года назад
Same
@mercenairy1
@mercenairy1 2 года назад
Fascinating video !! and consummately satisfying !! You teach me something interesting every time...thank you. im starting to feel chemistry is as mind bending as physics and more, and now i must know more of it,and you do such a great job showing it in its full glory , from all angles, clear back to who discovered it. the how and the why of things is so important to me!!!
@jonweinraub
@jonweinraub 2 года назад
Fantastic video! This sort of video is why I love chemistry so much. Beyond the theory and applying it to something interesting and useful everyone can relate to (maybe of a certain age in regards to that particular phone) but as a kid I loved pressing hard on the LCD screen wondering what it was. So this made it clear as well learning well beyond. Thank you!! Спасибо!!
@Bigvs.Dickvs
@Bigvs.Dickvs 2 года назад
I still have one of those Nokias in my personal museum. Last month I've tested it and its battery still accepts charge. And yes, I played the Snake!
@chemistryofquestionablequa6252
@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 2 года назад
They truly are the toughest phone ever made!
@Bigvs.Dickvs
@Bigvs.Dickvs 2 года назад
@@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 Yes, they can only be destroyed in Mordor!
@GundulmuGaming
@GundulmuGaming 2 года назад
Nokia original battery is amazing, i syill have 5 BL5C
@That_Freedom_Guy
@That_Freedom_Guy Год назад
I really love diy electronic components! You help to demystify the otherwise opaque world around us. Thank you so much.
@user-dr4ye3vk1y
@user-dr4ye3vk1y 2 года назад
Thank you for your content! Greetings from Bulgaria!
@BobWidlefish
@BobWidlefish 2 года назад
7:00 shout out to Ben from Applied Science, he’s a rockstar!
@jimurrata6785
@jimurrata6785 2 года назад
Notice the end credits. Ben is a Patreon.
@BobWidlefish
@BobWidlefish 2 года назад
@@jimurrata6785 Ben is awesome all around, no surprise.
@dennyarcano2470
@dennyarcano2470 2 года назад
Great job man!!i asked myself for all my school time how polarized sheet and lcd work in calculators, i disassembled many calculators just for fun and i never understood how theese work, till now. Thank you a lot!
@ag135i
@ag135i 2 года назад
Only scientists like you provide most accurate and useful information, thanks for your efforts.
@louistournas120
@louistournas120 Год назад
Knowing how to provide sufficient info is an art that some people have not mastered. Sometimes, I follow instructions for setting up something for Linux, for compiling a project, for solving some technical issue and quite often, steps are missing. When it comes to chemistry, some of the video makers skip over details.
@JohnnyWednesday
@JohnnyWednesday 2 года назад
Thank you for sharing your knowledge - love from the UK!
@startrek416
@startrek416 Год назад
Very useful to learn such detailed notes of science that otherwise seems to be a secret. Also, I give you my appreciation for finding an MIT document in this topic, I have never thought that was possible. Best regard.
@matthewabln6989
@matthewabln6989 2 года назад
Exceptional. These efforts of presentation and explanation are highly appreciated.
@sebastianrawson2147
@sebastianrawson2147 2 года назад
Amazing! Great job and spectacular results :)
@BOBLAF88
@BOBLAF88 2 года назад
Great in depth details on the evolution of the LCD! 🙂
@giovannip.1433
@giovannip.1433 2 года назад
Cool. Have you thought of doing a video explaining LEL and HEL of petroleum? Through these experiments you could calculate how much fuel is required in a engine cylinder and calculate/ show the efficiency of engines - why they are so inefficient.
@gogartymike
@gogartymike 2 года назад
Great video as usual!
@follantic
@follantic 2 года назад
Very cool! Thanks for the great content!
@MadScientist267
@MadScientist267 2 года назад
Very nice man. This is awesome.
2 года назад
Very interesting! Thank you.
@patrickcardon1643
@patrickcardon1643 2 года назад
Amazing presentation, congratulations! Also love your home made centrifuge :D
@izzieb
@izzieb 2 года назад
Gordon Freeman did indeed graduate from MIT. He's a pretty big deal these days.
@amphibiousone7972
@amphibiousone7972 Год назад
You're a great educator. Thanks for your contribution to science.
@kariduanimations
@kariduanimations 2 года назад
I never understood how these types of displays worked until I watched this XD Thx for satisfying my brain :>
@t.k.8525
@t.k.8525 2 года назад
Good choice of chems 👍 I love doing experiments with Sigma stuff 😋 always reliable for good experimental results. Greetings from Germany 🇩🇪
@archit8157
@archit8157 2 года назад
Your projects are going crazy!
@twida9
@twida9 2 года назад
I now know why when the screen breaks it get filled with black liquid. This is the best video you have ever made and most valuable video on YT. ☝️😌
@WildRapier
@WildRapier Год назад
I like the DIY centrifuge!!! .........and the rest of the video! Nicely done! & the 1/2 life ref# @ 13:17....that took a second to hit me!
@TheJerryskid
@TheJerryskid Год назад
Wish they were more like you you are one of a kind.
@DiegoSynth
@DiegoSynth 2 года назад
Congratulations! Your video is fantastic! I really wonder how do they physically wire so many pixels on screens without actually using wires. I have taken apart monitors but haven't seen cables at all. I guess they somehow multiplex the output for all these pixels nowadays? Must be a nightmare...!
@4LM3R
@4LM3R 2 года назад
Amazing video! Thumbs up!
@ColinTimmins
@ColinTimmins 2 года назад
Excellent video, I really enjoyed that. I was born before they came out and now look at them and other technology. The snow ball has started rolling… =]
@NewbFixer
@NewbFixer 2 года назад
Amazing, good show!
@YokoX23
@YokoX23 2 года назад
It's really cool how you do these in more than one language.
@skipperzoeel7158
@skipperzoeel7158 2 года назад
I'm always learning from u🤗
@shaikabdullahshakill9195
@shaikabdullahshakill9195 2 года назад
A good knowledge shareing. Good luck
@HA-vp9tl
@HA-vp9tl 2 года назад
I don't know about science but this is awsome! You are the good scientist! From Indonesia!
@Streethagore
@Streethagore 2 года назад
That was really AWESOME
@libervolucion
@libervolucion 2 года назад
Thank you, great video
@9ZenMedia
@9ZenMedia Год назад
This reminds me of algebra in school. The variance between this pixel and the screen on my phone that I am watching the pixel on, is like what you learn in algebra class compared to the test.
@xhebyphysics7823
@xhebyphysics7823 2 года назад
Respect brother, greetings from Tanzania
@AxionSmurf
@AxionSmurf 2 года назад
Hail to THE CHEMIST KING! Love your videos!
@PATRIK67KALLBACK
@PATRIK67KALLBACK 2 года назад
Great video!
@info-load7952
@info-load7952 2 года назад
Keep up the good work. One day everything could be made at home
@WXUZT
@WXUZT 2 года назад
Remarkable for a DIY setup !
@dand1486
@dand1486 Год назад
glad to see no bs videos, very neat
@specific_pseudonym
@specific_pseudonym 2 года назад
Hmm, looking at 16:48, it appears that as the LCs align (at the rise of the square wave) they not only cause the liquid to move, but they also push the glass panes, forcing them to flex. The relaxation of this flex then pushes back onto the LCs, disrupting their order; it's only the fast rise of the square wave that triggers enough impulse to overcome the pressure of the glass. Rocky Robinson below points out that, in the industry, they use glass beads to force separation between the panes of glass. This would reduce/eliminate any constant, uneven pressure on the LCs, and the tension in the glass would be eliminated. It'd be interesting to see if this could be described with an altered Ising lattice model. There would be three factors: Temperature, pressure, and applied voltage, where the latter has uneven splotches, like a smooth Voronoi pattern. Higher temperatures and steep pressure gradients would cause the individual crystals to stray from the alignment induced by the voltage (randomly). Maybe I'll throw this together sometime this week and see what kind of patterns arise as a result :D
@MAGGOT_VOMIT
@MAGGOT_VOMIT 2 года назад
It works!! Bravo!!
@ZettDarkstone
@ZettDarkstone 2 года назад
nice vid dude!
@kayumust
@kayumust 2 года назад
the 1 phone that never breaks
@pauls5745
@pauls5745 2 года назад
fascinating!
@ETPKnowledgeJunction
@ETPKnowledgeJunction 2 года назад
Awesome bro 👍👍👍👍👍👍
@klausnielsen1537
@klausnielsen1537 2 года назад
T.Y. for describing such specialised field of application. And by the way - Applied Science has entered the chat 👍
@alanribeiro4504
@alanribeiro4504 2 года назад
Really nice.
@ericthecyclist
@ericthecyclist 2 года назад
Loved the DIY centrifuge.
@sullivan4507
@sullivan4507 2 года назад
Could you imagine "Cruelty Free, Italian Made, Hand Crafted LCD"
@sullivan4507
@sullivan4507 2 года назад
@MichaelKingsfordGray Why would I?
@TheAxeljones2012
@TheAxeljones2012 Год назад
congratulations!!
@martin11844
@martin11844 2 года назад
nice you recovered your channel
@yin-fire3263
@yin-fire3263 2 года назад
So glad to see you back online!
@Burnt_Gerbil
@Burnt_Gerbil 2 года назад
Back from what? He’s been here the whole time. He makes his Russian videos first, then dubs them in English for this channel.
@h7opolo
@h7opolo 2 года назад
im glad this alien has decided to teach us the secrets of the universe.
@Ekishounen
@Ekishounen 2 года назад
Power supply should run -6V to +6V because a DC bias from 0V will allow ion transport. Place tape over the indium tin oxide where the electric signal is (alligator clips) before the polymer spin coat and remove after buffing so the ITO makes a good contact. Super glue and many other glues with catalysts and accelerators for cross-linking polymers contaminates liquid crystals with ions so try thermoset or thermoplastic adhesives. Liquid crystal should be free of oxygen, water and salts for best performance. Liquid crystal is also more expensive than gold by weight, as you noticed. Liked your video! Thank you.
@jonmarquez128
@jonmarquez128 2 года назад
IPhone 11: Falls on the floor screen breaks! Nokia 3310: Falls on floor breaks floor!
@KermitFrazierdotcom
@KermitFrazierdotcom Год назад
OOOOOOOO!!! Perfect Privacy Screen! Strip off the top polarize layer as shown, then only someone with Polarized Glasses can view the Display! You're a Genius!
@walterisraelmoscosozarate8768
@walterisraelmoscosozarate8768 2 года назад
Awesome you are the best
@GoldSrc_
@GoldSrc_ 2 года назад
Good job.
@enestahirozan
@enestahirozan 2 года назад
Dude you are the best
@rarrawer
@rarrawer 2 года назад
I'm thinking you could knock the cost down by omitting the dedicated frequency generator and instead drive the display using an oldschool 555 oscillator fed into a simple amplifier, maybe with an extra comparator or two thrown in to make the signal transitions faster. You could similarly use a computer's sound card as the signal source for the ~20Hz to ~22KHz range, and feed that into your amplifier to get your desired voltage.
@hasithagayalambattaya8929
@hasithagayalambattaya8929 2 года назад
Remembered about crystals when readig my old IT book yesterday. Today I see this!!!!!😆😆😆😆👍
@NGNetwork1
@NGNetwork1 2 года назад
Wow, the engineering behind making an LCD is actually pretty neat :D Now make a multichrome one!
@davidbischi
@davidbischi Год назад
I mean. that would just require 2 more pixels and color filters. thats it. oh. and a backlight
@WilliumBobCole
@WilliumBobCole 2 года назад
finally, an LCD screen where the resolution, refresh rate, response time, and colour depth can all be measured as 1. The "perfect" display 😄
@kairimasakaki5407
@kairimasakaki5407 2 года назад
ultimate unity
@johnbillings5260
@johnbillings5260 2 года назад
Would love to see a gameboy screen at that scale.
@fantasticpiston6024
@fantasticpiston6024 2 года назад
Thanks , Ma friend!
@kawabungadad8945
@kawabungadad8945 2 года назад
I'd like to thank you for picking up the slack of Canada's science education system and teaching me something new today.
@dlaroc
@dlaroc Год назад
Interesting!
@JohnDuthie
@JohnDuthie 2 года назад
beautiful
@NotoriousPyro
@NotoriousPyro 2 года назад
This guy is a living genius.
@Cyrus-ro8kg
@Cyrus-ro8kg 2 года назад
I am glad Thoisoi got his acc back. And came with amazing experiment too! Great!
@Vicus_of_Utrecht
@Vicus_of_Utrecht 2 года назад
Wtf are you talking about?
@thawatchaia.7498
@thawatchaia.7498 2 года назад
Great !
@JofreRS
@JofreRS 2 года назад
13:14 I love how the most famous scientist to graduate from MIT is Gordon Freeman.
@u.v.s.5583
@u.v.s.5583 2 года назад
It is Howard Wollowitz, M.Sc.
@rjameslower
@rjameslower 2 года назад
Beware pure crystals
@srividyaananth7644
@srividyaananth7644 2 года назад
Awesome. I like your English accent
@mridulnath2468
@mridulnath2468 2 года назад
Awesome display
@LockeSoriku
@LockeSoriku 2 года назад
A half life reference? Stellar.
@morpheusduvall
@morpheusduvall 2 года назад
Indeed
@crystal_royal3405
@crystal_royal3405 2 года назад
I'mma make my own comically large calculator
@sadasulna6056
@sadasulna6056 2 года назад
Don't forget, you have to make the CPU using valves.
@davidarundel6187
@davidarundel6187 2 года назад
Nice to see you back online, explaining science, to students. Much appreciated - I trust your videos will start an enquiring mind or two, to explore chemistry & it's related fields, and generate, a 'new to science' application. Namaste 🙏 💟
@ckdigitaltheqof6th210
@ckdigitaltheqof6th210 2 года назад
13:10 was the most profound, he has ever got. It was interesting to see a demo over how crystal screens became obsolete. LED, is already a nuiesence, we tried creating a non-optical screen, which only a night light would've required in dark, it looked like a color glossy prescription magazine, that animated like a video, too many of the expense and material got damaged or lost before illustrated. Could've been a power saver and no optic burdon revolution. Perhaps this host could try.
@thomasmoore4576
@thomasmoore4576 2 года назад
That's really cool but that's only one pixel can you imagine how to get those so small and still get them individually wired up without seeing the wire that's the trick especially on the new ones nowadays they've got thousands of pixels on a TV
@Ambidextroid
@Ambidextroid 3 месяца назад
Millions even! A 4K TV has more than 8 million pixels
@kelvinnkat
@kelvinnkat 2 года назад
Most LCD screens are IPS panels nowadays, but there are other kinds, for instance TN or VA.
@jimwednt1229
@jimwednt1229 2 года назад
My Nokia cellphone still works too! I remember what an advanced electronic device it was at that time .
@ranpatoamami7048
@ranpatoamami7048 2 года назад
1:25 Seeing the Google+ logo made me feel so nostalgic
@maplays1210
@maplays1210 2 года назад
Everyone: glue Thoisoi: zzhhglue kha kha khaaaa ;)
@roshanpereira7650
@roshanpereira7650 2 года назад
8:50 worlds best centrifuge 🤣
@Kargoneth
@Kargoneth 5 месяцев назад
Nice antique phone! Still works? Huzzah!
@jozefnovak7750
@jozefnovak7750 13 дней назад
Super!
@andymanaus1077
@andymanaus1077 2 года назад
I wish there was a modern phone with a display that uses the old monochrome LCD technology. I often work in bright sunlight and modern colour displays are unreadable. The old LCD screens can be seen in any lighting conditions and as a bonus, they don't need backlighting and they use far less power.
@SomeGuy-ne3yl
@SomeGuy-ne3yl 2 года назад
where in the heck did you get a signal generator and end up with a 300 eur bill? also, like some other guy already said...the centrifuge is a really nice and effective looking DIY solution. many thanks, if i ever need one!
@cvm-x-2-sanjayshriram819
@cvm-x-2-sanjayshriram819 2 года назад
I am here after my chemistry teacher, i can learn many things about elements in this channel.
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