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Why Italy Was Never a Superpower After Rome 

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United through a combination of warfare and alliance by the Roman Republic in the third century BC, Italy was the heartland of the empire that went on to conquer Spain, Carthage, Hellenistic Greece, and the kingdoms of Alexander the Great’s successors. For centuries, the Roman Empire was a hub of stability, but Italy has never again risen to the heights it attained under the Caesars. How is it that Italy failed to become a premier power after the fall of Rome and the western portion of its empire?
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@IntriguedMind
@IntriguedMind Год назад
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@gregorymutz4266
@gregorymutz4266 Год назад
Great question. How could Rome have dominated the entire known world 2000 years ago while Italy today is a mid-level regional player in Europe with minimal power and dominance. Could the same thing happen to the US centuries from now? Scary to consider.
@Cecil_Augus
@Cecil_Augus Год назад
Centuries? Its happening right freaking now lol. The US has never been a sovereign power as the Romans were, it was always controlled by outside banking elites, and now they are pulling out for Asia.
@danielefabbro822
@danielefabbro822 11 месяцев назад
Oh by the way, Italy is also the first and only global cultural superpower. Salute me that group of mud huts called "Hollywood"... The best they can do is "Marvel universe". 🤣🤣🤣
@CatotheE
@CatotheE 7 месяцев назад
Mid level is relative. Italy after a decade of stagnation still has the 8th largest economy in the world. For most of the Cold War, Italy clustered with France and Britain economically and was only clearly surpassed by West Germany, Japan, the Soviet Union and the United States. Larger than Canada, Brazil, Spain, Russia and South Korea. They also have a blue water Navy.
@solinvictus1234
@solinvictus1234 Год назад
Actually Italy for a tiny nation that is, since it's industrial revolutuon until 1994 it was the World's 4th economy and still today they have the third world gold reserve behind usa and germany. So IT ACTUALLY WAS a Superpower during the 60's until 2000. The if we want to talk about Italy as Italics, they ruled the world multiple times after the Romans. Firstly with Papacy, secondly with the Maritime Republica of Genoa, Pisa and Venice, that litterally had all the worlds trade routes for their own. For example, the Byzantine Empire was highly dependant from the Genoese fleet, for market and naval wars. Not counting also how Genoese Crusaders conquered Jerusalem...twice.
@alinamaksimova2656
@alinamaksimova2656 Год назад
6:59 When the Kingdom of Italy was declared, fewer than one in forty of its inhabitants spoke the language we now describe as Italian.
@pp38pp
@pp38pp Год назад
And how do you know? What are your sources? All written sources from the Middle Ages onwards say that the Italians recognized each other as a single people from Sicily to the Alps and were able to understand each other without problems from one end of the peninsula to the other. Your statements are just the poisoned fruit left by squalid politicians who have invented divisions that never existed to pick up the vote of some imbecile by sowing discord and internal divisions. Despite being politically divided, Italy has always been the most ethnically homogeneous territory in Europe.
@TheZenGarden_
@TheZenGarden_ Год назад
Italy just went from a political superpower to a religious one. "Inter Caetera" aka the "American Experiment" + Ordo Ab Chao = "Novus Ordo Seclorum." All roads still lead back to Rome. Dan.2:39-44
@pp38pp
@pp38pp Год назад
Exactly! In reality, Italy has ALWAYS remained an economic, military, cultural, political and religious superpower until the XVIII century, it does not matter that this force was fragmented into many different states. Economically Italy was the richest territory in Europe, with hundreds of large cities, Italian bankers lent money to all the major kings of Europe and even to the Sultan of Constantinople. Politically Amalfi, Pisa, Genoa, and Venice dominated the Mediterranean and the Papacy influenced all the politics of Christianity. In the military sector, after the disarray of the High Middle Ages, after the year 1000 the Italians had returned to being among the best soldiers in the world (ask Barbarossa), then they invented the Compagnie di Ventura, new fortification systems, they were the best builders of weapons of Europe (together with the Germans) the best strategists and the best commanders. The famous Tercios were invented in the Italian wars, they were composed mainly of Germans (what's right is right) and then of Italians and Spaniards more or less equally. The fleet that defeated the Ottomans at Lepanto consisted of 212 ships, 198 of which were Italian... and it could go on and on. Culturally, Italy has always been at the top: philosophy, law, and medicine had their homeland in Italy, the first universities in Europe were born in Italy, and if we want to talk about art: Giotto, Leonardo, Michelangelo, Raffaello... Unfortunately, between the end of the 17th and the beginning of the 18th century, Italy experienced a serious crisis. However, it always remained within the top 10 world powers. Not bad, all things considered. Only the Chinese (perhaps) have been able to do better over the millennia.
@TheZenGarden_
@TheZenGarden_ Год назад
@@pp38pp Not good either, you're sense of pride is misguided! Dan.2:39-44 2 Esdras 6 9 For Esau is the end of the world, and Ya'aqov (Deut.28:15-68) is the beginning of it that followeth.
@Cecil_Augus
@Cecil_Augus Год назад
There is no "religious superpower." Religion was never used to achieve power, there's none of it. What existed was A) a interconnected web of spies - yes, that was the main objective of the clerics; B) control through accumulation of knowledge, such as linguistics, geography, philosophy, medicine and history, which were used to undermine the common populace's power; C) control through the domination of culture; theology was used to dictate the ordinary life and to guarantee civil order and a purpose for the people, so they wouldn't revolt. The Church was the single most powerful entity in Europe for a long, _long_ time, and boy, this wasn't achieved through "religion." It actually went beyond, as the objective of the Church was to control the very fabric of reality, was to be the sole authority over the meaning of life and death. It dictated what was false or true, what was right or wrong. It made and dissolved kingships and lordships, it was the very foundation of western culture and society. What even is religion in the first place? That's a philosophical question that was never objectively answered. Its personal, its like God, every person has its own meaning for the word.
@CatotheE
@CatotheE 7 месяцев назад
The balance of power, a failure to change the culture of the Italian military (particularly the army) and jumping in to World War 2 on the losing side. Funnily enough, I think that Italy could have emerged as one of the worlds leading powers (top 5 and even 3 if the EU isn’t being counted as a group). All it would take is for Mussolini to sell of neutrality and join the Allies once Hitler was being thrown back by the Soviet Union and the Wallies had liberated France. They already had the largest Navy in the Mediterranean and their crews were generally well trained. With the French fleet scuttled and the British broke, it would leave the Italians to assume the leading role in their region. No country could ever and would ever control the Mediterranean as thoroughly as the Romans did, but the Italians could have been dominant there. Their empire was also sparsely populated outside of Ethiopia, so it would be easier to hold on to and it had vast energy reserves and untapped mineral reserves. They were also the heart and brain of an ideological movement that was incredibly popular before world war 2 and the holocaust tainted it. Spain and Portugal had similar regimes and good population growth until around a decade after those regimes fell (in part due to their isolation). The Italians were in the perfect spot to exploit the absence of more developed countries from international markets and profit from the war. Japan did just that in WW1 and their economy grew by 40%. The 1939-1945 period would have been a great time for the Italians to expand their industry. If Mussolini had played his hand smarter, he could have come away from the table with a sparsely populated Empire at least around the size of India, the worlds 2nd strongest Navy after the US and Britain, the worlds largest economy after the US, the Soviet Union and Britain, one of the leading creditor nations like Japan after World War 2 and at the head of a smaller and weaker bloc of fascistic states with the support of the US and her allies as a roadblock to the spread of communism. Churchill briefly mentions what a good position he’d have been in after the war if he’d been more patient and he’s not the only one. They were playing with a deceptively good hand and he botched it. Someday I might make a video about that. Great video btw!😁👍
@CatotheE
@CatotheE 7 месяцев назад
Sell off. I hate when that happens.
@IntriguedMind
@IntriguedMind 7 месяцев назад
Great insight! Something we will definitely look into. Thanks for watching.
@danielefabbro822
@danielefabbro822 4 месяца назад
I hate to rain on your parade but Mussolini offered an alliance to Chruchill at the time of Anshluss to ensure austrian independence. Chruchill refused. End of the story.
@CatotheE
@CatotheE 4 месяца назад
@@danielefabbro822 Are you drunk? Churchill wasn’t even in government at the time, but there were efforts to keep Italy neutral by Chamberlain and Churchill when he did become the Prime Minister.
@Cecil_Augus
@Cecil_Augus Год назад
The affirmative is just wrong. "Italy" as a whole, modern piece is a new thing that was invented in 1870. What was there before were cities, regions separated by geography, like other parts of Europe. Rome wasn't Italy as a superpower, it was the city of Rome as a superpower, and this status was mainly achieved through the Mediterranean. After the Roman Republic and Empire new superpowers emerged in the peninsula. We had, first of all, Rome as the Catholic Church, which was in several ways the center of Europe and the seat of greatest power, specially through the 12th to 17th centuries, it was the richest most powerful city in Europe - Constantinople aside - until the 13th century, being challenged only by Venice after that. And there were several extremely powerful duchies and republics, such as Florence, which dominated European banking, Genoa and Venice, two of the most powerful cities in Europe for a long period of time - let's not forget that south Europe was richest before the Atlantic world trade was open -, Milan, Siena, Lucca, Pisa, Naples and many others which deserve their place as superpower. Until the 18th century the Catholic Church was the main driver of world colonization, so one could argue that Rome was even at the center of the world at one point. Hadn't watched the video till this point. The video was good and likable, and you brought good arguments. But the premise of seen Italy as a bloc is wrong in the first place, this is a view that doesn't fit the territory's history at all. Its like thinking of the Balkans as Yugoslavia. For some reason it worked out in Italy, most likely because of the rich regions in its north and the papal authority and extreme power in Rome, something that was not allowed to exist in the Balkans after the fall of the Ottoman and Austrian empires.
@danielefabbro822
@danielefabbro822 11 месяцев назад
Never? What do you think it is Italy today? 🤣🤣🤣
@canemcave
@canemcave 8 месяцев назад
Giovanni Giolitti..
@CatotheE
@CatotheE 7 месяцев назад
What about him?
@Keepthecircleclean
@Keepthecircleclean Год назад
Mi chiamo Grifyn
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