well don't I look stupid. I couldn't read that in the text so I just assumed it wasn't the case. She still does waste time with her dodge counter though.
Are we sure that Yinlin is the best for Jinhsi team? What about Taoqi outro giving +38% Resonance Skill dmg? Isnt that where a lot of Jinhsi's dmg is coming from?
She's insanely needy about having access to partners that have coordinated attacks, plus it might not be too hard to completely devalue resonance skill % boosting on her. Like, her weapon provides what, 48% by itself on a timing set up to let you just braindead the rotation. Also her Sequence 1, if you intend to try and shoot for a dupe gives her frigging 80% more on top of that.
@@Daemerik Yes I'm sure of it. Coordinated Attacks help her skill a LOT, and Taoqi's 38% Skill DMG Deepen is not worth the clunkiness and long field time that Taoqi has
Why make so big of a deal here. She is the latest limited character so ofc she will be be in the top. Have you never played a gacha game or do you just prefer not being honest? This is why jiyan is dealing the most damage of current characters and why the mew coming characters will be top tier. If they arent, they will get buffed before release to make sure you spend.
@@LordNerfherder By this logic, Navia should have done more damage than Neuvillette, or Boothill should have been better than Acheron. Being the best DPS in the game is very relevant and minimising it is not OK.
You have to keep in mind that Mortefi's outro skill is a MASSIVE buff for Jiyan, while Yinlin's outro doesn't help Jinhsi that much. Also, an S6 Mortefi can be harder to get for people than S0 Yinlin for most people, and this sheet used an S6 Mortefi.
@@ThundahPrime wasn't that the problem with Verina? She takes too little field time, so I will just use Taoqi as sustain instead. (+a sub dps to stack Jinhsi's forte) Let me explain what I find about Jinhsi's team (yapping session): My theorycraft is that Taoqi works for Jinhsi specifically because her enhanced resonance skill is like 60-70% of her full rotation dmg, so using Taoqi instead of verina is not a DPS loss for her, but also makes the team overall do more DMG since Taoqi has her own DMG, a decent amount of damage compared to Verina. Taoqi's Concerto energt regeneration is very slow I agree with that, but in a Jinhsi team, its not a problem if Taoqi takes 6-10 seconds on field, and with Discord broadblade you can make Taoqi concerto energy get full way faster, this broadblade also enables Taoqi to get almost 100% uptime on her ult (which is good, more DPS for the team). In my tests, it was better to use Discord broadblade in Taoqi than Dauntless broadblade. There's a recent vid of a CC called iSUMMON talking about Jinhsi's numbers and rotations, and he includes Taoqi in the team and shows she increases Jinhsi's resonance skill by almost 40% RAW DMG. But if people are not confident in their counter/parry timing using Taoqi, they could use Baizhi instead, she has coordinated attacks that will help to stack Jinhsi's forte and gives almost the same amount of utility as Verina, but requires a little more field time. By doing that you also make your Verina free to use in other teams with more strict timed rotations. Cuz if every team uses Verina we would have no sustain to use in other teams in the Tower of Adversity, that's why I'm trying to squeeze the potential of other sustains like Taoqi, Jianxin and Baizhi. They all have their utilities and can work very well in proper teams. With my average knowledge about the game, I came up with ideas of some teams for Jinhsi (consider all of them C0, without Resonance Chain): Main DPS: - Jinhsi Sub DPS (to gain stacks with coordinated atk): - Mortefi (mid dmg, heavy attack buff) - Yinlin (big damage, liberation buff) - Yuanwu (mid dmg, reduces resistance bar, gives interruption RES after his Liberation) Sustain: - Baizhi (heal, atk buff, dmg buff) - Taoqi (heal, dmg reduction, skill buff) - Jianxin (heal, shield and liberation buff) - Verina (heal, atk buff, dmg buff, revive passive) All of these sustains do very well with Bellborne echo, specially Taoqi that scales with DEF and gives dmg reduction. Bellborne gives extra 50% dmg reduction and 10% bonus dmg. Always remember to use Bellborne after using Taoqi's parry, since you want to get that dmg bonus and damage taken reduction for your main DPS.
A r0 bro is literally the best frontloaded dps, not to mention that if we'll have a Tingyun-like character in WuWa which give dmg increase + restore energy, Havoc Rover would easily still be relevant in the meta
The dmg comparison ss u showed was…weird. Why are u saying her dps is higher than jiyan when it’s not. If u wanna say party dps is higher, sure. But that’s also because it’s night and day to compare mortefi’s damage vs yinlin’s.
You have to keep in mind that Mortefi's outro skill is a MASSIVE buff for Jiyan, while Yinlin's outro doesn't help Jinhsi that much. Also, an S6 Mortefi can be harder to get for people than S0 Yinlin for most people.
I like jinhsi more due to quickswap.. a character like jiyan who has to stay on the field especially against hologram where they can one shot you if their attack can't get Perried
i cant decide between changli and jinshi i mean changlis design is so good and i like the character overall but still jinshi is better but like i said i like changlis design more
@@ThundahPrime Do you think frontloaded damage is better than backloaded or is consistentcy better cause I don't know if I should main Jishi, Havoc Rover, or Jiyan😅
Yes! Although I would say she's closer to an Emanator from Honkai Star Rail, as she is still given power by the Sentinel. But in all senses that matter, she is the closest thing to an Archon we have.
Kinda hard to tell. our hit box will need to intersect with the enemies hitbox for a parry to happen. But her being airborne a lot of the time, I am afraid it might not be that easy.
Jinhsi is missing that dedicated sub-dps and a good support from another element, Verina don't synergize well with her and in terms of damage she deals the same as Jiyan and with the signature just a little bit more, people are just overrated her, she has 10 seconds of uptime just like Jiyan with the difference that her damage is more bursty and Jiyan has his scaling splitted in multiple hits but the total MV of his CA are basically the same as Jinhsi, however in terms of sequence is another history, Jinhsi has probably the best sequence in the game so the whales will destroy everything