Why Josh Rosen is a BUST | Film Room 

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I remember when josh rosen said he was going to make the 9 teams before him regret not drafting him. Umm no, the only team regretting anything is the cardinals for drafting rosen at 10.

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he panics under pressure so damn much, he just completely falls apart

"There were 9 mistakes in front of me and I'll make sure those teams regret it over the next 5 years." YEAH RIGHT 🤣🤣

I strongly encourage you to watch the video before commenting on his offense and saying that his teams were bad. I addressed this in great detail in this video. IMO, when a QB has terrible accuracy from a clean pocket , terrible anticipation causing multiple interceptions, and when a QB is terrible at dealing with pressure, you aren't suddenly going to be good or great on a different team. All those traits will transfer to his new team.

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Great video. Lots of great points and fantastic film breakdown. Done your homework.

He won’t be a starting nfl qb for an entire season, ever!

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Nice breakdown. The slow processing and poor anticipation have always been there and credit to you for highlighting these instead of going with the usual 'his team sucks' narrative. Ironically he's been replaced by a guy who excels at both.

I was never a fan of Josh Rosen. I always felt that he had a poor attitude and even Jim Mora Jr wasn't a fan of his.

Great video as always Sam

So where do you get your film bro? I have wanted to start doing this but can't cut up nfl.com games lol

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5:40 That really sums it up and is also a great example for the Winston/Mariota conversation. Winston would make that throw, hit it often but also turn it over often. Mariota would take the Rosen pass and punt. The first has potential, the Rosen and Mariota type of players do not.

Really nice work on this ! I had been wondering if he was going to land somewhere stable and start to become a good qb. Not that it still cant happen but your work here shows a lot more than just rookie mistakes and poor supporting cast as the reasons. Great job!

Good explanation. Subscribed.

What source do you use to get college game film?

His confidence is probably at a all time low

Finally! A mainstream guy not peddling the sob story and “that he is still a franchise qb” rhetoric! He busted. He wasn’t helped but he still busted.

Idk if u take requests but I’m kinda curious about what u think about tyrod Taylor and if he can have any success with the chargers as a bridge qb

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Seemed meh to me while at UCLA . A fine college QB does not necessarily translate to NFL success. doesn’t everyone and scouts know this !?

Really good video. I just heard his conference call with the Bucs reporters, and boy does he sound different than he sounded in college. He's been humbled and it will be interesting to see if he can rebuild himself. I liked what I heard and he said he choose the Bucs practice squad, over a roster spot with another team, because of coaching and he wanted to be in the QB room with Brady and just try to understand how he processes information, and why he does what he does. He says his mindset completely changed after he got benched last year - and from the cocky kid in the draft that I remember, I'd say I believe him. No idea if it translates to the field, I mean he's not even on the 53-man roster, but I don't see how he could be worse than Blaine Gabbert, so he's got that going for him.

Great video. Full disclosure: I felt before the draft Rosen was a bust based off his college film. He's slow to process reads and stares receivers down and often seems reluctant when he throws. I also never liked his throwing motion; his arm moves ahead of his base, which causes dead balls. To me, he's a less talented Trubisky [without the mobility or arm talent]. Rosen performed almost exactly as I thought he would. I'm honestly stumped as to why so many were high on him and why people still defend him. It wasn't his "teams"; it was his play.

I knew he was going to be a bust when he was acting so cocky after he got drafted like he was a Superbowl MVP already. People like that usually don't work hard.

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Man I forgot all about this channel. Notifications are busted. Im back.

Rosen fan: He was on a terrible team and never given a chance! Fitzmagic: put the same exact team on his back and beat the pats thus ended the greatest football dynasty in history.

he can't be a bust because he was never good.

Serious question, when it comes to those WR drops that hurt Rosen, why weren't those dropped passes hurting Fitzpatrick? Its almost like the the supporting cast plays better with a different QB. Does it have something to do with the way the QB throws the ball?

this is the type of videos ive been looking for man!

Great video and breakdown! I would love to see Rosen get a shot elsewhere and be in a good situation, but I honestly j just don’t see that happening. I think the best situation is for him to sit behind an aging vet, and hopefully be able to learn under them and eventually compete for the start job when the time comes

keep doin your thang man!!! love the content

I had a feeling CPOE didn't include drops (given some discrepancies with film-charted "accuracy" I'd seen). Sure, it's still a big improvement, but it's a shame that a source (NFL) with such resources can't adjust for a pretty simple thing (especially when so many "advanced" metrics are behind pay-walls nowadays).

Is it just me or do his mechanics just look horrible especially when under pressure? I get the pocket is collapsing and he’s running out of real estate but a lot of those throws have minimal foot movement and are all arm which was never his strong suit

Sometimes karma has a way of showing us how to be more humble. Instead of complaining about how many QB’s were drafted ahead of him, he should’ve been working his ass off to prove his current team right for selecting him.

yo this video is sick, liking and subbing forsure bro

2:10 poor arm strength. He has no zip.

I feel bad for the guy, but no talent + slow mental processing + no intangibles? Why SHOULD he get any kind of starting job? At best, he belongs as some team's 3rd stringer, and that's a big stretch because as bad as I saw him look with he Dolphins, this video completely demolishes him.

This is some damn thoughtful analysis and consideration. This guy really knows his stuff.

How many times guys dropped it in the beginning ?!

The problem I find with many on the Rosen defenders is that It's not that Rosen needs to improve but that he DESERVED a ready made SB team. A team stacked with playmakers and HOFamers. That he was never given a chance and his coaches were bad. Look. Rosen was the #10 pick!!! Players drafted high in the draft go to crappy teams. The final straw was he couldn't beat out Fitz, an old jorneyman qb. If your #10 pick can't beat out a perennial backup then he's useless. Hell, Fitz is even a better backup than he is. This is going to be Baker's problem. If Baker can't outplay Burrows then Baker is absolutely useless in the AFCN.

He wasn’t even that good in college. I never saw what scouts saw

Career backup at best. I thought the Dolphins wasted a 2nd round pick on him.

josh rosen was trash in college.. if you were a trashbin college how can u succeed in nfl?? i mean i always looked at him as a loser in ucla?? never see any real good game, and dont blame their oline or defense.. its the quarter that sucks too..

I'm a browns fan. I've seen SO many bad qb's. But I've never seen anyone play as much as Rosen and not pick up on the speed of the game. It's kind of amazing.

Couldn't agree more -sincerely a cardinals fan

While you're at it, could you break down Fitzpatrick too?

What has changed compared to college? Coming out the analysts claimed he is one of the most accurate and pro-ready QBs. Did he play against low competition at college or was it something to do with scheme?

He played in the Pac12 and was overhyped, so... none of the above.

Season ticket holder for the ducks.... this is literally like watching Justin Herbert for four years. Late on reads, flustered under pressure, misses throws with a clean pocket, and relying on his legs too much (although it works in college). While they both obviously have great talent, for Herbert, I just can’t see him being super successful in his career unless he improves greatly.

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This is why getting drafted by the right team is incredibly important

I am also not going to blame the teams for his lack of success and development. A perfect example is Kyler Murray, Rosen's replacement. Although we are comparing two very different quarterbacks, Murray had essentially the same offensive talent to work with and faired much better than Rosen. Since Rosen's rookie year, he has had major issues with anticipation and something stared at his recievers. Sam showed in this video a clear indication of this lack of anticipation in his second year. Although Rosen in Arizona had one of the worst offensive lines and only decent weapons, Kyler generated significantly more offense with the same talent around him. However I do understand I'm not accounting for the change in schemes when the Cardinals brought in Kingsbury. In Miami, we saw a very similar scenario play out. Rosen has multiple opportunities to win the starting job. I find it very unlikely that Miami's expectations were too high for Rosen to succeed. They knew they were not a very good roster and were looking to see development out of Rosen. Instead, he showed a lack of improvement from his rookie season and still had some bad habits. Despite Miami's poor roster, we saw a significant change to their offense when they benched Risen for Fitzpatrick. Although I definitely won't say it is an amazing offense, they almost came back and won the game against the Redskins. I believe they went 0-7 to start the season. After starting Fitzpatrick in the remainder of the season, they finished 5-11 beating the Eagles and Patriots who are both playoff teams. I think this is significant reason to show that Miami's roster was not the reason for Rosen's lack of success.

Considering my Steelers had a guy named Duck playing last year. I’ll take him as a project, I love him as a freshmen at UCLA. He had heart and confidence idk where it’s gone.

Didn't you make a video in 2016 saying he was the 2 ND coming ?

Pocket passers who can’t move need to be lethal in other areas, to compensate for the lack of mobility/playmaking. Rosen has to improve accuracy or he will done soon.

Bad accuracy, bad anticipation, bad under pressure. Not ideal physical traits. What’s not to love. One of the easier bust predictions of the last few years. Herbert is next although I like him more than Rosen as a prospect.

Look at Rosen's sideline demeanor before he was made the starter in Arizona. You'll notice him smiling and joking around while his teams getting blown out. Not even paying attention to the game knowing he was gonna be the starter soon. I made my opinion before he ever took a snap.

The ability to anticipate and trust your receivers is crucial.

At this point he’s a bust, but he’s still very young, younger than Joe Burrow, and has 2 NFL seasons under his belt. That gives him lots of time to improve and work on his game and change his bust status

Did the guy mention he had 3 or 4 OCs in like 5 years?

Take that "3" off, boy. You should wear "E". Gets worse the more he has to move and evade pressure. The bizarro-world Russell Wilson.

Here's what I want to know: how would you compare him to a third stringer like Duck Hodges who had about as many (or more) starts last season?

9 mistakes ahead of me ... lmao

Rosen reminds me a lot of Joey Harrington a guy that looked great till pressured or he had to speed up his reads. He just couldn’t calculate the speed of nfl defenders and it caused him to ultimately fail. That’s what I see as Rosen’s bigger problem. Some guys can just either slow down the field or speed up there mind to be great Rosen can’t his talent and ability can’t carry him in the Nfl because the game is just to fast for him. I think there are a lot of quarterbacks like this. Guys that when there is no pressure or or they are just working out make all the throws and look amazing. But that’s not the biggest part of being an nfl QB measurable darr the least important part of being an Nfl QB. It’s the ability to slow down the play or speed your play up. Rosen never had this so his abilities only took him as far as an ok to good college quarterback. I don’t think you can rebuild a guys mind. It just seems to be something you are born with or not.

2:00 it actually starts

“It was a shoulder injury that sidetracked Rosen’s budding tennis career.” Yeah, I can’t think of a sentence that predicts NFL bust more than that one. He plays quarterback like McEnroe. That is bad.

You see what happens when you let hubris take over? "There were 9 mistakes ahead of me" And then he ends up being the biggest mistake out of the top 10.

I would've go check down on the right side two times to get 5-7 yards each play. Maybe the player breaks a tackle and gets the first down. Atleast you develop a rhythm with the offense. It is 2-20 and odds 1st down conversion is low. You want to move the chains to get more space for special teams and better field position.

He has zero chance of going to the Patriots, I highly doubt the Dolphins would be stupid enough to trade a quarterback in division even if they think he’s a lost cause.

“Good to see somebody who doesn’t buckle under the pressure”

The game is about confidence as much as it’s about skill I’m a ravens fan and Lamar 1st 8 games were great but his passing wasn’t up to par yet. He even said it himself and now he’s our mvp I wouldn’t say he is a bust just give him a chance on a team that believes in him that builds around him and to your point that Fitzmagic made the team better he did but he’s also a seasoned vet and knows how to win in the NFL

That argument about not blaming the team and coaching staff around him just because fitzpatrick did better under the same situation should be wrong. Ive heard former defensive players say that backups are usually difficult for the defense because they havent gameplanned for the backup compared to the starter.

Week 3 vs Miami I believe if Ryan Fitzpatrick was starting we probably would have won that game by a field goal

So glad we traded him so we could draft Andy Isabella

Do a Dwayne Haskins review people saying he’s trash but he showed so much good on film 🎞

Honestly, the dude has less than 2 seconds to get rid of the ball on nearly every play. Miami and Arizona had by far the worst Offensive Line's in all the NFL and probably rank among the worst of all time. I know lots of these were timing throws on short routes, but he still had pressure coming on these short routes. Give this dude some time to throw the ball and I'd like to see what that does for his confidence and accuracy. Also, 8% drops is brutal. Tough for any QB to keep drives moving with those many drops. This kid is getting an unfair review after getting thrown to the wolves. I'd like to see what he looks like with better players around him with a better grasp of the playbook. Chad O'Shea had a horribly complicated scheme. I think you will see the best Josh Rosen this season and he will put most of those doubts to rest. Miami would be wise to hang on to him as a back up to Tua and trade him when his trade value is at an acceptable level.

I'm a Dolphins fan, and I was really pulling for this guy, and wow I never noticed how bad his throws actually were. Glad the Dolphins got this dude for cheap and hopefully they can offload him for something decent in return. Something the film shows but can't be 100% proven is I believe that Rosen doesn't have that NFL level drive and work ethic to be successful just based off his attitude and social media presence.

Still hoping he makes a come back. He's been screwed by some REALLY bad coaching. Your example at 4:02 is also unfair, he had to throw high as the Skins DE was literally jumping for the ball and he threw high to avoid a batted ball. Also had someone around his waist!

He just landed on Tampa Bay’s practice squad!!! Absolutely perfect spot imo, getting to sit and learn behind Tom Brady while being mentored by Bruce Arians is exactly what he needs to reach his potential.

This year should be interesting

I respect the opinion that he is a bust right now. However I feel that once he can catch up to the speed of the game he will excel. I feel that the new system with Chan galie will bring in the help he needs as well as sitting behind fitz this season. I hope he can be a great competitor for the starting spot this season. Can’t wait to see what he can do. Great video man keep up the great work

I remember when rosen said if tom brady wins 6 rings he will win 7 rings 😆

“The next Brett favre” according to some sports media last year. But honestly when was the last time a QB consistently thrived in the Dolphins system?

the title.. PAUSE lmaoo

Some players take longer to acclimate to the NFL, than others especially QB'S. RFP, comes into the game and the O, improves well, RFP, has started 139 games in his career JR, has started 16 games . The new HC in AZ, didn't want him in Miami, they were in tank mode and trading the only good assets they had. Talk about being in bad situations, I wish him JR, well and that he goes somewhere he will be appreciated and a real opportunity to develop. Go Hawks

3:12 how do you be an nfl an and make that throw

It's clear that the coaching staff at Arizona was bad (they got canned), but I think that the Dolphins shouldn't get lumped in with that. Sure the organization seemed that they were tanking, but Flores and the coaching staff ground out 5 wins from that squad and I don't think they would have been able to with Rosen.

6:14 if he throws it to the Slot receiver its an interception.

Watched Rosen just a little at UCLA. Thought he was very erratic.

I see you finally came around

Kyler Murray has the same team and so did FitzMagic

I recall when he was drafted he said all 9 of the players the were drafted ahead of him were "mistakes". It turned out he was the mistake.

Knowing all that, why was he drafted soo high, and even considered best qb in his class by some.

I’m still in Rosen’s corner 🤷🏾‍♂️ nice vid tho you pointed out some things I was oblivious to

I had heard all about him, then saw UCLA play Memphis, and he was clearly the 2nd best QB on the field. To me he has always had Jeff George written all over him. Good physical talent, but no head for the game, no proven leadership, and for such a supposed transcendent talent, no impact in making his team successful. Great combine numbers are nice, but it doesn't override mediocre actual play. Even in a way down Pac 12 he wasn't a consistent performer. It was like his high school hype carried over to the draft, and his meh college play was somehow ignored.