Why Jotaro Never Got Weaker After Stardust Crusaders 

So before I get the whole stand stat (the letters) argument here. they’re bullshit. They have never been consistent and a majority of the time are just wrong. the only thing that matters on those things is the stand description.

Jotaro was a victim of power creep.

the fact that part 4 jotaro survived a kira bomb validates he did NOT get weaker atleast durability wise

Why didn't Jotaro use Star Finger to save his marriage?

He didn't get weaker, people just came prepped to face him better. By part 4, he's something of a legend among the Stand using community as the guy who took Dio out, so you have to have a "what happens if Jotaro shows up" plan ready to go.

Just the fact that Jotaro had a chance to win against made in heaven shows how strong he still is

Jotaro was an absolute MONSTER in Part 3 and 4. Part 6 he just feels way older than he actually is(He's 40 in part 6.) And also with Araki's new art style, it looks like all the muscle he had withered away.

I think what a lot of people don’t quite realize about Part 4 specifically is that the game plan for a majority of fights , the good guys automatic win state, is getting the bad guy within spitting distance of Jotaro. lol

I would say that in Parts 4 and 6 he is clearly rusty since as he himself said it had been years since he used the Time Stop and it seems to me that he had never had to face someone on the same level as Dio again until Pucci showed up.

I think the reason Jotaro stopped using Time Stop after Part 3 is because of its association with Dio. Stands are the manifestation of one's soul, and since Dio (who Araki describes as the living embodiment of evil in the series) had the "same stand" with the same ability, it brings into question Jotaro's own nature. So, to avoid being reminded of this existential connundrum, Jotaro just decided not to use Time Stop unless he really needed it which was almost never.

The fact that Pucci needed to learn all of Jotaro's moves and acquire an even more broken Stand in order to beat him should really have been enough to nullify the idea that Jotaro was a weakling after Part 3.

Bro part 6 jotaro had to face pucci with batman levels of prep time on him, fighting a stand which is absolutly broken (only getting beaten out by stands that have power that is just on a different level of bullshit) and if it wasnt for him targeting jolyne, he would of gotten his head turned into soup. Not enough people understand how absolutely overprepared pucci was and despite everything, he was only a few steps away from caving in the guys head who is beyond infinitly fast. Jotaro kujo, is a fucking unit.

Pucci being able to speed up STOPPED time should be enough for someone to comphrehend the that he was simply too strong for jotaro

"Peaked at 17."

i do love the fact that part 6 jotaro casually throws a spear

Pucci needed a whole part to find a way to beat Jotaro knowing every single character aspect of him so that he can finally revenge his Dio

In summary, the villains just got stronger

Physically I think, since it was noted some of his muscles were degrading, but this is Jojo where Soft and Wet can kick butt! I don’t think Physicality and Stands are really concurrent (ignoring Holly). If anything, Pucci’s power was just too strong, as it was meant to be.

YES, WE PATIENTLY WAITED AND GOT THE THING WE ALL WAITED

I think this just goes to show how smart pucci is fighting Jotaro. He knows exactly how to play him to win, compared to Kira and DIO being massive dumbasses.

Around 5:00 That's not how power scaling works in JoJo. If person A beat person B and person B beat person C, person A isn't necessarily stronger than person C. Jotaro didn't get a rage boost that amplified his power, he just used all of his innate strength to destroy The World, this doesn't mean he's stronger than DIO, it just means Star Platinum's strength stat is higher than The World's durability stat; if DIO didn't summon The World right then and there and just took the hit he would just eventually regenerate because Jotaro didn't use the sun or hamon, he would have won. Jotaro was only able to kill The World, not DIO himself. if the stand dies the user dies too so this had to happen this way. This is also why Jotaro is NOT "power creeped" by Made in Heaven, he could have ended Pucci in stopped time but he chose to save Jolyne instead. Of course he wouldn't have been able to know when to stop time without the help of Anasui but it's not impossible. Koichi's Echoes Act 3 would beat Made in Heaven, there's no such thing as power creep.

One thing I never get is: WHY, and I mean, WHY do people latch on the Part 3 timestop so much to say that Jotaro got weaker. Like, I get it, 5 seconds to 0,5 is A LOT worse, but we've ever SEEN him use that timestop ONCE, right at the end of the part. For the rest of the part, what was he doing? Oh yeah, fighting WITHOUT A TIMESTOP. When people even say "But why didn't he use it in that 10 years between parts 3 and 4" need I remind you that for ALL fights besides the END of the LAST one, he didn't??

Wasn't the "shortened timestop" one of the most obvious parts of Made in Heaven arc? I mean, Made in Heaven's whole idea is to change speed of time flow by affecting the gravity. It's like in Interstellar, for people on Earth(with "x2" gravity) 2 minutes equals to 1 minute for people in a space rocket(with "x" gravity). So, as timestop was tested by Jotaro and Dio on Earth, with "x2" gravity, this would be much different as gravity decreases more and more. For me - makes absolute sense + respect to Araki for such specific details.

Why are people commenting about the video when it literally hasn’t been around long enough to be fully seen?

I always took the Sheer Heart Attack case as its own innate stand hax of "this automatic stand cannot be destroyed by physical means beyond its own detonation, only impeded", hence why Jotaro could only damage it and not fully break it apart. Even so, the fact that he withstood a hit from it and kept on chugging for a bit just shows how tough he still was

I can't believe people lowball Jotaro because of Sheer Heart Attack. Don't they remember? SHEER HEART ATTACK HAS NO WEAKNESSES.

Another banger vid from METAs

I've been advocating for this side for the longest time now, I'm very happy that I can take somewhat of a break.

My ears perked up immediately upon hearing the GGXX Korean version OST, it's severely underrated. Good music taste.

It’s just the fact that stands got more complex and stronger counteractive abilities during the evolution of JJBA and people were knowing about Jotaro like this solo-hero legend thing. He never got weaker but sure did stagnant or bumped down Star Platinum’s potential (like not using timestop for 10 years) and Pucci got years to prepare his ambush against him.

This is gonna be long asf. I think Jotaro was not really weaker, and he was not nerfed either. Let's admit it, Araki sort of backed himself into a corner with Jotaro's writing and had to UNDERUTILIZE his ability in order to make the other characters shine in Part 4, and ESPECIALLY Part 6. Jotaro pretty much peaked in Part 3 cause obviously that was his part, he was the powerhouse of the group and bludgeoned his way throughout Part 3 until DIO. Notice how in Part 3, Star Platinum was wayy more aggressive and wild, he was a loose cannon. He put holes in DIO, after caving his skull open. In Part 4, you can say that Jotaro matured hence Star Platinum felt "weaker", but in reality he was less aggressive and more neutral which I find complimented Jotaro's maturity and mentor figure in DiU. Let's not forget, Jotaro was the reason that Kira admittedly developed Bites The Dust, all it took to incapacitate Kira was a single punch from Star Platinum (a dying Jotaro on top of that) the beatdown was just the icing on the cake and Kira was never the same after that encounter. In the manga, when Koichi and Josuke was up against Red Hot Chili Pepper, Koichi stated that RHCP was technically moving at the speed of light and that only Jotaro would be able to keep up with it, especially with Time Stop. Then you got the RAT episode, I believe this is one of the best examples of Jotaro being underutilized. How? Well, Jotaro could have used his stand to Leap towards the rat, or just use Star Platinum's Precision to to hit the Rat behind the rocks.. But WAIT! They couldn't even see the rat!! Well that's the thing, he could have used Star Platinum's eyesight, he literally used it to see 2 miles across the desert in part 3. And before he brought Joseph along in Part 4, he was also shown using this ability to look across the ocean. But he didn't. So it's safe to say he was guiding Josuke to handle pressure, and besides it's the smartest thing to do. Distract the rat because josuke can just heal you anyway.. Part 6? That's a whole story. Remember Star Platinum's self-preservation? Dude literally protected Jotaro across Part 3, and even Part 4 when Angelo's stand tried to sneak up on Jotaro. So why couldn't Star Platinum just deck Whitesnake when he was coming up behind Jotaro? EASY, so that the entirity of Stone Ocean can happen. It's been shown that Star Platinum is still active whether Jotaro is conscious or not. Remember when one of the Speedwagon Employee tried to touch Jotaro's hat while he was in a Coma? Star Platinum activated and punched a glass to carve Jolyne's name in his forearm. It's not just Physical Strength, Speed, and Precision that makes a basic ass stand like Star Platinum pretty great, it's his passive and complementing abilities that make him even more dangerous. Honestly, Jotaro could have ended Stone Ocean during C-Moon arc. He stopped time, saved Jolyne out of bullet's way, and then Decked Pucci flying towards the glass panel, while Jotaro usually holds back towards his opponents, THIS was not a great moment and reason to do that. Pucci meant harm and already gave Jotaro a lot of reasons to Kill him. Yet he didn't! There is a lot of scenarios where someone could have done something else according to their experience and abilities and it would change the entire course of the story. Unfortunately, Araki suffered from inconsistency throughout the entire seasons and primarily backed himself into a corner when writing some of his characters because of this fact.

I like the low tier fan theory that Jotaro's actual stand power is simply copying other stand powers, but since he never thought to use it in that way and only made the assumption with Dio, he doesn't realise he has that power in full. Obviously, not canon and all that, but it would be the easiest way to maintain that Jotaro is and will always be the strongest stand user. Of course, I'd love to see Araki actually write a power copy character at some point. It's always just so fun seeing characters like that in other media, but knowing Araki, he'd probably feel like a power copying character is too uninspired, but I'd still like to see his take on it. Also this video makes me fantasise about an alternate sequel part to Part 6 where Jotaro killed Pucci instead of trying to save Jolyne. Maybe Jotaro goes on a search through a ruined world to find someone with the ability to resurrect his daughter, but because fate is such a powerful force in JoJo, his mission is a resounding failure as resurrection just isn't a thing in JoJo. Could even make Jotaro the antagonist, using the stand arrows to make more stand users quickly. Have Shizuka be the protag or something. Maybe Joseph taught her some Hamon so she can end the universe with a power system the universe started with, but with stands still the focus of course. It might be good for a motif of "healing" too. Shizuka will beat Jotaro not with a fight but with love. And maybe we can have the universe feel "corrupted" too, afterall, with Fate being so powerful a force, Fate is _not_ happy that Jotaro picked Pucci over Jolyne as was fated to happen and got ignored. We could use universe glitches from broken fate to explain things like Jotaro losing his good boy nature (maybe even remove the birthmark), and just making things truly bizarre in this broken world, a final bizarre adventure to end the universe on. And of course, it could even parallel the audience. Wanting to bring back the dead, wanting the original universe to continue when it's finished and reached its end, it's the same thing.

Neat video, well explained! My only problem with Jotaro in part 6 that you didn't mention is that when Pucci's in the shuttle, Jotaro doesn't try to get in there, jump like he did in part 3 using his stand to "fly" higher than a regular jump. That's pretty weird and inconsistent

I didnt know you before but you got my follow after the intro (damn its good) ☝🏻😌

So many goated choices for music in this video

Awesome intro, great video!

Incredible video. Keep up

Great video!

SO HYPE FOR THIS

Brother can't stop dropping banger after banger

Loved the music choice, Apollo Justice's cross examination and Aria Of The Soul are great music choices

Glad you made this video, Jotaro deserves more respect and so does his strength

one of the best youtube channel intros...

This channel has expressed the sentiment that Anubis could, at least in theory, surpass Jotaro and Dio; so I wonder how he'd scale compared to Justice under that hypothetical.

Thank you for making this video.

I’m addicted to meta’s intro. It just sounds so good

Another question: if you die where does the stand go? Because when you go to heaven in jojo’s your soul ascends to heaven, but your stand is literally tied to your own soul so does the stand just go to heaven with you?

the persona music in the background always jumpscares me

Ty for making this video a few friends of mine thinks he was completely nerfed been saying for a long time he wasn’t just his ts was played with a lil

You swearing in the video is great. Keep adding more, METAs. Love the videos 🫨👍

wait a second, if the only thing that got weakened in part 4 was his time stop...then Crazy Diamond truly is on par or at least very close in strength to Star Platinum? given Jotaro had to use time stop to dodge his attack and had his defense broken by it

Bro still dishing out quality jojo content after all these years 🙏

If I could use time stop, and it got better the more I used it, even if it was totally unnecessary, I would be stopping time as much as I possibly could, I'd be stopping time while walking to the store, reading, going to the bathroom, everything, making it as long as it possibly can get.

That's video was cool and very intresting !

Jotaro being considered a bottom tier in any part is just downright blasphemy. Kira made the mistake of underestimating a fatally wounded, basically walking corpse jotaro and got his ass beat so bad he spent the rest of the part dodging the 1v1 as much as humanly possible. This is the MAIN VILLAIN of the arc.

I love how jotaro never takes off his hat to the point it merges with his hair

Your intro alone got a sub from me, great shit

I want a series about some of the work jotaro did for the speedwagon foundation

gotta appreciate the SMT Persona OST in the background

Jotoro: 's art style changes along with everyone else's Everybody: NEEERFED

4:15 "He's sucking it all in" is a CRAZY sentence

Jotaro have reversed plot armor

Thank YOU. Why do people act as if stands get weaker with age when people like Polnareff who was STATED to be faster and stronger by diavolo while being crippled. There would be no reason for him to be any weaker.

Man, he could FLY in Stardust Crusaders.

This video is how I've thought of it the entire time. Jotaros a beast

What if his physical body got weaker? Even if his Stand got stronger, he could probably not be as physically gifted, which leads to a less effective Time Stop in Part 6?

“I AM JOTARO!!”🤣🤣🤣 that killed me ngl

Clean intro brother

An spinoff showcasing Jotaro's solo adventures during the 10 year time skip would be amazing

I think the reason why jotaro didn't bother to use he's time stop was because he's already a unit, basically the time stop ability is just a cherry on top

METAs next video "The Most Terrifying Stands: sheer heart attack💀💥"

Jotaro actually gets a 20% nerf whenever he has to take care of his child, this was stated by Araki in an interview he had in 1874

Oh wow. Persona 5 music started playing right when I entered the area with that music in Persona 5. Just had to share that coincidence.

People in the internet be like: "Damn Jotaro lost to Pucci twice. Might be he got nerfed or Pucci stand too much for him" My brother in Christ, Pucci literally himself said TWICE: "Jotaro, you lost because your daughter. You choose to save her instead to finish me. It's your only weakness. Two step behind or whatever" Why we still have this dusscution if it's all written on the paper?

I interpret "shortened timestop" as jotaro feeling MiH's speedup also causing the stopped time to pass faster

Araki can say Jotaro's Prime is at 18 years old, nerfing a stand stat, have Jotaro be in a coma for four months that has a full chapter explaining his muscles are degrading, his health condition being unknown during the MiH fight, and show that aging can affect a stand then you'll still have dudes pull the biggest mental gymnastics you have ever seen to say he is "stronger"

we need like a one shot of what jotaro when looking for the arrows

Unrelated but how do you feel about that Brezerk fan show coming out soon?

as i said in kaleb's discord: star platinum can't be faster than light, as anubis was faster than star platinum, but anubis would have been atomized at relativistic speeds as shown in XKCD's lightspeed baseball video. additionally, we don't hear a sonic boom either, so it can't be faster than sound either. the solution i propose is lightspeed in jojo is slower than lightspeed irl

This is a bit of an odd request of a video, but I wanted to ask it. What if you did a video on if the JoJos were all in 1 part what's their role within the group. That or what would be the strongest team if you combined all from parts 1-6.

Seperate from yeah, Made In Heaven being a more powerful, wasn't it obvious Jotaro just got outsmarted? He could either beat Pucci, or save Jolyne, he couldn't do both, and in the end his indecision lead him to fail both. I've never viewed part 6's fight as a matter of power creep, and in general JoJo had never been about who's stronger but about outsmarting your opponent and their abilities to land a decisive blow. Conversations like this are fun but it doesn't feel like it fits within the vibe of Jojo

DS background music? Fire

One cool detail I just noticed at 3:21 was when dio tried to break Jotaros arms instead of going for the head. Jotaros is so unpredictable that he’d rather stop him from being able to attack FIRST rather than going in for the kill.

So basically the patch notes came in and pucci had the new meta stand

I got a question, for diver down, when the stand goes inside of someone, do you think its pitch black like in All Star Battle: R, or do you think he can actually see what's inside them?

sheer heart attack is pretty much just the immortal snail

His time stop tho is so criminally under utilized

Is the Mountain Level a highball or is it the generally accepted level for the Sun feat? Cuz I see some ppl saying City

Metas what’s the intro to your channel ? Cause it sounds like it’s from go let it out-oasis

What’s the song that you play in your intros? It’s really cool.

Big bro Meta, letme get the names of the music you use. Especially the intro music

Jotaro got hit with the “Araki Forgot” nerf

Jotaro was a former power creep. And in part 6, he got a taste on his own medicine.

I'd read a side story detailing Jotaro and Polnareff looking for arrows and Jotaro getting his legendary status in the stand world

If I had to say I believed that made in heaven was accelerating the speed to the point that the time stopped will shorten every time that Pucci is still alive and keeps on accelerating making the time shorter and shorter each time that jotaro has used it

around the 9 minute mark, what ace attorney track is playing in the background?

Sheer heart attack is basically the snail…

I thought sheer heart attack was just indestructible because it's not the "main stand"

Sheer heart attack is also stated to very specifically be completely and utterly indestructible as part of its stand traits. The fact that Star platinum was able to chip and crack it is actually insane

Hey META idk if you take recommendation for videos but I have one in mind cause I’ve been over thinking who would win in a battle GOD EMPEROR DOOM or MADE IN HEAVEN PUCCI