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Why keyboard sound tests are lies 

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[start] - [section title]
0:00 - Intro
0:42 - The Board
0:56 - Comhar Showcase
2:07 - Comhar Sound Test
2:25 - Tribesigns Sound Test
2:36 - Thoughts
2:54 - Deskmats
3:12 - 0 Deskmats Sound Test
3:22 - 1 Deskmat Sound Test
3:32 - 2 Deskmats Sound Test
3:39 - 3 Deskmats Sound Test
3:50 - 4 Deskmats Sound Test
3:59 - Thoughts
4:20 - Microphones
4:39 - Yeti Close Sound Test
4:49 - Yeti Medium Sound Test
5:00 - Yeti Far Sound Test
5:10 - iPhone Close Sound Test
5:17 - iPhone Medium Sound Test
5:27 - iPhone Far Sound Test
5:37 - Camera Close Sound Test
5:46 - Camera Medium Sound Test
5:56 - Camera Far Sound Test
6:08 - Thoughts
6:47 - Conclusion
8:13 - Mode vs Mode
8:29 - Outro
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Комментарии : 656   
@nearLucid
@nearLucid 2 года назад
Should we make a separate video testing air temperature
@TUxCyborg
@TUxCyborg 2 года назад
Yes 😂
@cohias
@cohias 2 года назад
Yes please 😂
@twiks8446
@twiks8446 2 года назад
Yes
@Hionimi
@Hionimi 2 года назад
_"Alright, n-now... F-f-for the n-n-next t-t-test..."_ *Visible fog being blown over the keyboard and shivering hands coming into frame to start typing, but nothing.* _"D-d-darn... I think t-t-the switches f-f-froze..."_
@Delbs1
@Delbs1 2 года назад
For science, sure
@cohias
@cohias 2 года назад
Can't wait for typing tests to start including air temperature 😂
@bidoofus7921
@bidoofus7921 2 года назад
Forget air temperature, I’m gonna need to know how many molecules are in their boards now!
@Daniel-dj7fh
@Daniel-dj7fh 2 года назад
@@bidoofus7921 Or how dry the lube in the switches are
@KO_Manic
@KO_Manic 2 года назад
Big brain advancements
@Jonas-ej3og
@Jonas-ej3og 2 года назад
Joe mama
@Darklegend51520
@Darklegend51520 2 года назад
I’m gonna do a sound test in the bathroom right after I finish a hot shower
@SPANISHFOREAGLE
@SPANISHFOREAGLE 2 года назад
as an audio nerd getting into the keyboard world, i thought it was interesting that very few people even mention what mic and/or processing has been done let alone room treatment, desk treatment, etc. fascinating stuff
@vans2548
@vans2548 2 года назад
imagine fast forward 3 years and maybe we will have waveform analyses of keyboards
@Armonia.
@Armonia. 2 года назад
Yep, this. It's uncommon to rare for a keyboard sound test video to include even just the microphone, much less the audio settings such as gain, post processing, distance to keyboard, etc.
@dslamngu
@dslamngu 2 года назад
@@vans2548 why not today? Why not 15 years ago? The software is free.
@vans2548
@vans2548 2 года назад
@@dslamngu yeah, gd qn, i wonder how much audiophile-mkb overlap there is, and i suppose the main concern was often the feel and ergonomics, and only more recently thockiness and sound came to the forefront, for what reason idk, maybe cos sound and aestheticd are the main things you can convey thru video (which explain the interest in keycaps, and custom cables, artisans etc too)
@dslamngu
@dslamngu 2 года назад
@@vans2548 yeah that all sounds right. I don't think people need to be audiophiles to read or compare frequency response charts though. The principles are easy: left of the chart is bass, right of the chart is highs, humans hear 20Hz-20kHz, "thock" is to the left, "silent" is all low, "ping" and "rattle" would be frequency peaks. I'm into gaming PCs and I see RU-vidrs post their own types of benchmark charts all day. I think it's because the MKB crowd is filled with people in their early 20's who are new at methods of analysis that are old news in other hobbies, but they're great at making videos.
@vukandrejic
@vukandrejic 2 года назад
as a beginner, for me, this is one of the most important topics to cover and this video explains it so well
@techalex1992
@techalex1992 2 года назад
just don't buy mech keyboards,don't buy keycaps,switches etc...... don't waste your money on this crap.
@SpilledBeans
@SpilledBeans 2 года назад
@IP Televizija Balkan I hope that you realize that building keyboards is just a hobby meaning it's something that you do for fun
@fkutw4tt3rtub3
@fkutw4tt3rtub3 2 года назад
@@SpilledBeans just go outside and touch grass m8 he gave a great advice
@nougatpersonal
@nougatpersonal 2 года назад
@@SpilledBeans until you run into the elitists
@lasermanpl
@lasermanpl 2 года назад
As an intermediate it is most important to me to abandon this mentally damaging pursuit for "perfect typing sounds" absurd.
@matthewkaao
@matthewkaao 2 года назад
I've watched a ton of keyboard videos, (both small youtubers and the "leading" ones like Hamaji Neo and Taeha Types), and I truly believe you have one of the highest production values to your videos. The angles, color correction, fonts, overlays, everything about the video is executed at such a high quality. Hope your channel continues to grow!
@techtutorial9050
@techtutorial9050 2 года назад
Agreed (especially the colour correction/grade is spot on)
@Zyrostic
@Zyrostic 2 года назад
You should try PE foam modding the tabletop
@nearLucid
@nearLucid 2 года назад
table thock?!!?!???!
@aims784
@aims784 2 года назад
Yessir
@yoosty
@yoosty 2 года назад
You should cop Mr. Suit for me
@bidoofus7921
@bidoofus7921 2 года назад
…unironically kinda wanna know how a table’s acoustics-and by extension the acoustics of a keyboard placed atop said table-are affected by the attachment of PE foam to it now. Who knows, maybe it could be relatively “practical” to apply a sheet of PE foam to the bottom of a table, for instance, in the event that the material out of which the table they’re stuck with using is negatively affecting acoustics in some way…Someone get on this lol
@Daniel-dj7fh
@Daniel-dj7fh 2 года назад
@@bidoofus7921 If you are messing with tables, you need to consider that anything else on the table will also play a role on how something sounds.
@SamSalvador
@SamSalvador 2 года назад
Thank you for shedding light on to this topic. I've always found that a lot of aspects affect the sound of those keyboard sound tests I listen to, but I love how you broke it all down for us in such a detailed way. Instant Sub!
@TurntLikeASloth
@TurntLikeASloth 2 года назад
Honestly, I've started to build my keyboards completely based off of sound tests and I've yet to be disappointed.
@nearLucid
@nearLucid 2 года назад
Depending on where you're seeing them, the producer may already have a good grasp of the sound signature of the board, and may have gone through multiple iterations before settling on one they like. I bet that probably more often than not, if you follow someone else's build exactly, you'll still be satisfied. The point is, it's never going to be the exact same.
@bakeraus
@bakeraus 2 года назад
@@nearLucid Of course and it's not going to sound the same with you typing on it compared to me typing. I might be slower, you might be faster, I might be heavier at typing than you are. There is also preference to the user
@rks5457
@rks5457 2 года назад
Still doesn't mean the sound tests are accurate.
@daylite34
@daylite34 2 года назад
yeah like tbh these differences aren't big enough for me to call it a LIE. Yes there's differences but I feel like the video is kind of exaggerating.
@leinardesteves3987
@leinardesteves3987 2 года назад
@@daylite34 that's what you call clickbait
@SamBoga
@SamBoga 2 года назад
Great Video! That answers the questions of "why My board doesn't sound "thoccky" like the ones on youtube" !! Another thing I have noticed is that low gain on the mic many folks use during the sound test. I mean in a sense it sounds pleasing to the ears but never brings out the true nature of the board. Also, some folks use dynamic mic instead of the condenser to make sure it brings the best out of the boards. In my case, I don't have an Air-conditioned or soundproof room and My room is by a very busy road. so often it picks up honks and whatnot. So sometimes I do a bit of processing to cancel that out as I use a condenser mic with High Gain to get the real sound of the board rather than a pleasing one!
@HybRidChrome
@HybRidChrome 2 года назад
I love that this does an awesome job showing all the different factors that affect sound, thanks Lucid! ^^
@melkerll
@melkerll 2 года назад
Amazing video, great production and content!
@bakeraus
@bakeraus 2 года назад
Yes, they are sound tests. Are they lies? Not really, they are all we have because no one wants to give honest opinions on keyboards except for a few YT'ers. It gives people an idea of the sound you can get out of a particular board because we can't all own every switch and keyboard available.
@gchungus
@gchungus Год назад
Yeah and even if people aren't being intentionally misleading, I would never expect soundtests from two completely different people or setups to give me a good idea of sound. This is why I like comparative soundtests more than any standalone, if one person is comparing two switches/boards using the same setup, I can at least expect a good level of consistency from that if nothing else.
@thealandude9146
@thealandude9146 2 года назад
these videos are super high quality I love em
@bc3366
@bc3366 2 года назад
love the cinematography!
@kcxy1996
@kcxy1996 2 года назад
Sound tests are just reference to how it would sound against other keyboards. And you can take reference from ONE youtuber’s sound test of a certain keyboard to the other keyboard of his/her to roughly gauge how it sounds.
@artoriasoftheabyss1575
@artoriasoftheabyss1575 2 года назад
Exactly. Just another clickbait title.
@fnwnejdj
@fnwnejdj 2 года назад
@@artoriasoftheabyss1575 how is the title clickbait? it's not wrong, people think sound tests = reality all the time
@thejusmar
@thejusmar 2 года назад
The point is that you will not be able to realistically achieve a sound similar to the video in reality. They're idealistic representations of what the keyboard could be at best, lies for clout at worst.
@timromero8801
@timromero8801 2 года назад
I agree, sound tests work best as a comparison.
@GekiRena
@GekiRena 2 года назад
Thank you for talking about this, i was always curious regarding this as I cant seem to mimic the sounds of typing tests. This just confirms that my very thin desk is one of the reasons for it. Also the change in distance of the mic alone changed the sound significantly. Great video! This was very informative!
@calbeekaikai
@calbeekaikai 2 года назад
I like your editing style! It’s really smooth and clean and tbh very nice and enjoyable. Keep up the good work!
@seanscott311
@seanscott311 2 года назад
What a great rising channel, keep it up!
@josefchung
@josefchung 2 года назад
the quality of your videos is insane, keep it up
@justinedzard
@justinedzard 2 года назад
Yes! I'm glad you mentioned air temp as a factor of keyboard sounds. The first time I built a keyboard, I was so confused about why my keyboard sounds so differently each day, and then it hit me, when it's cold my keyboard would sound better (personally)
@slavicsquire8853
@slavicsquire8853 2 года назад
i cannot stress enough how much of an underrated youtuber you are. you just earned a loyal sub. keep up the good work!
@sittingbush
@sittingbush 2 года назад
This is so underrated. The production quality of your channel is out of this world!
@takeshi_sa
@takeshi_sa 2 года назад
Great video man!
@JkmgChannel
@JkmgChannel 2 года назад
Awesome video and very informative! Thanks for sharing 😁
@gunjja13
@gunjja13 2 года назад
I love how much perfectionism and passion you put in your videos.
@rebbits
@rebbits 2 года назад
i don't understand how you have such few subscribers!! the editing and the content is so clean and satisfying.
@ethqxn
@ethqxn 2 года назад
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@flamboyantchess
@flamboyantchess 2 года назад
this was very good video, i had no idea of all the diferent things that affect how it sounds, thanks!
@gvcha8827
@gvcha8827 2 года назад
This is very enlightening, thank you🤩
@kroodles
@kroodles 2 года назад
Love the video today!!
@hingekeebs
@hingekeebs 2 года назад
Your production quality is through the roofs!
@Flybeck
@Flybeck 2 года назад
Absolute banger of a video. So well done. Keep it up!
@mattkins752
@mattkins752 2 года назад
ok that outro, bro that was so SMOOTH
@KeebWorks
@KeebWorks 2 года назад
Yes, I can confirm. Sooooo many things influence the sound of a keyboard/switch. That’s why I’ve always kept my microphone distance in similar positions whenever I record a sound test. I gotta say, I’m a little surprised people use it as a “baseline”. I thought it was just because people like hearing sound tests? (because you know, most mechs sound nice).
@jdutson12
@jdutson12 2 года назад
man this production quality is INSANE. was expecting nearer 100k subscribers. Definitely deserve more (typed on Lavender Linears...)
@nearLucid
@nearLucid 2 года назад
Thank you! :) How are you liking those lavenders?
@trogyyy
@trogyyy 2 года назад
amazing video, very informative! keep it up :)
@fivesixfive
@fivesixfive 2 года назад
Excellent video! For this exact reason is why I listen to multiple tests to attempt to figure out what the real sound of a switch (or other component) based on the ‘average’ of the tests
@upreviewid
@upreviewid 2 года назад
Very nice pov. I like this kind of videos, subscribed!
@AustinTan
@AustinTan 2 года назад
appreciate the work! learn lots I likes your video quality
@hzo42069
@hzo42069 2 года назад
das a smooth ad right there sir, sexy edit as always
@cshamus1
@cshamus1 Год назад
This was so helpful! Looking to build my first board and in doing research I was getting hung up on how it would sound once it was built. Thanks!
@nikifallen93
@nikifallen93 2 года назад
Fantastic and so helpful!!
@evilofalfa
@evilofalfa 2 года назад
great video man
@octavia7466
@octavia7466 2 года назад
Extremely high quality as always, impressive
@minhhoangle1549
@minhhoangle1549 2 года назад
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@brandongear7184
@brandongear7184 2 года назад
Excellent production quality holy cow
@mechclix6835
@mechclix6835 2 года назад
Your sound tests are so clear man tutorial on soundtest setup would be awesome if you havent already done one!
@marcels.8703
@marcels.8703 2 года назад
What a production quality!!! 👀
@poisoniv4581
@poisoniv4581 2 года назад
So much editing and hard work went into this video. I can't imagine all the hard work and money that was implemented in this.
@louispham4415
@louispham4415 2 года назад
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@scuatchyburger146
@scuatchyburger146 2 года назад
I found this very interesting! Thank you for making this vid.
@Boostedtypist
@Boostedtypist 2 года назад
This was amazing! I never knew anything about this! Great video! I subbed and turned on notifications! 😀😃
@chillylion6858
@chillylion6858 2 года назад
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@user-rf2gb8kt7w 2 года назад
Small channel, enormous amount of professionalism. Keep going!
@krisjunior2698
@krisjunior2698 2 года назад
WHY IS YOUR TYPING SO SATISFYING
@polariaosu
@polariaosu 2 года назад
Why haven't I heard of you yet? Your video quality is awesome!
@JakeTan
@JakeTan 2 года назад
Great video providing a holistic view on the topic of sound test. I personally think sound tests should be treated as more of a showcase for viewing or auditory pleasure and entertainment, rather than a benchmark. Regardless its always best if possible to experience a board, switches, or certain modding configurations in person before formulating your opinions on them. Take sound tests with a grain of salt and don't justify a purchase solely based on a 2 minutes video on RU-vid 😅.
@bakeraus
@bakeraus 2 года назад
What do you base your purchases on? Profile Mounting Material Maker
@ilovecarti1629
@ilovecarti1629 2 года назад
your videos are way too underrated, you'll make it big eventually
@sl4807
@sl4807 2 года назад
thank you for your hard effort
@zakutei
@zakutei 2 года назад
such an important topic, top-notch content as usual keep it up
@cruzkinestudios9882
@cruzkinestudios9882 Год назад
Instant fan and now a subscriber for life. 100% truth has been told. Officially subscribed. I look forward into seeing your videos.
@PeppyTouch
@PeppyTouch 2 года назад
You nailed it! And now I can use your video as a disclaimer in my typing videos. XD
@temporaltomato3021
@temporaltomato3021 2 года назад
Desk mat vs. my bare glass desk makes a *huge* difference on my custom board. It goes from smooth but a little clacky-sounding on the mat, to big thocc on the glass. Luckily, it feels the same either way, and I like both.
@m1nkz-
@m1nkz- 2 года назад
very well made video !
@mickeyhalo745
@mickeyhalo745 2 года назад
That dedication tho! Appreciate you.
@Msouljahh
@Msouljahh 2 года назад
mmm loving the style
@silver_crone
@silver_crone 2 месяца назад
Years later, this has helped me so much. I'm just getting into the hobby, and this has eased up the anxiety of 'oh no, if I don't get this exact thing, it won't sound the way I like'. Excited to start the puzzle of 'how do I get this sound in this space, with this config'. Thank you, so much.
@danielngo6037
@danielngo6037 Месяц назад
same, I was thinking how could the utubers have such a good stabilizers sound...😮‍💨
@fluffykeebz
@fluffykeebz 2 года назад
Oh man this is such a well made video on the topic!
@brunlorenz99
@brunlorenz99 2 года назад
FINALLY! Someone who talks about It! Love your work man, keep It up!
@raggz9830
@raggz9830 2 года назад
idc ur keyboard sounds so niceeee
@arifimran7265
@arifimran7265 2 года назад
i just found your channel, and i'm already a subscriber ;)
@H3Y0o
@H3Y0o 2 года назад
I don't get why this channel only has 8k subscribers... I'm just so glad that youtube recommended this video to me.
@majorkonfuzion1007
@majorkonfuzion1007 2 года назад
i like the crunchy sounds
@zandkeyboards
@zandkeyboards 2 года назад
I learned this the hard way while using my iphone's built in mic for a sound test and comparing it to my Samson Meteor. It was a different board entirely.
@Dylen7
@Dylen7 2 года назад
I have talked about this same topic on my stream before and I’m glad you’ve made a video about it! Thank you!!!
@wetnoodle7782
@wetnoodle7782 2 года назад
I subbed homie!!!
@LaMelo-
@LaMelo- 2 года назад
How is this guy’s content so good like this his setup and camera work/quality easily destroys the biggest competition out there. you deserve 100mil subs for your hard work. I tip the hat for you right here sir. 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
@Mikka0
@Mikka0 2 года назад
Amazing video
@AirMaxAdrian
@AirMaxAdrian 2 года назад
This hobby just got a whole lot more complicated! Haha just kdding. Great informative video! Hopefully you make a video on how air temp can change the sound. It would be very interesting to see the differences of sound just due to temperature.
@maedhyne
@maedhyne 2 года назад
wow, the production quality of this video is really top tier.
@mattkins752
@mattkins752 2 года назад
ok, i already love this channel. also this is why i use a micro fiber cloth to dampen and amplify my keyboard sound. it even sounds better on thick plastic tables
@3rd_Gen
@3rd_Gen 2 года назад
True! I'm using micro fibre towel as well and it drastically changed the acoustics a lot.
@kay_a_s
@kay_a_s 2 года назад
I have been in this hobby for about 1.5 years and started taking sound profile tests with a grain of salt about half a year ago. The reason was simple - I listened to a sound test through my PC on both my desktop speakers (Creative Katana) and on my headphones (ATH-M50x) just to have a clearer picture of how the keyboard will sound like. I was pretty surprised it sounded different. Even tried the headphones through my phone on the same video and that too sounded a bit different (speakers sounded more thoccky than the headphones but the same headphones on phone had a deeper sound than the speakers). These days, while I still enjoy listening to the sound tests and liked how it sounded and would build one similar, I would expect it won't sound exactly the same as what I hear from youtube.
@getniftygaming6450
@getniftygaming6450 2 года назад
I’m glad you made this because I’m an audio engineer and I always think people set up their environments to make their boards sound better! Great video
@Jordan-389
@Jordan-389 2 года назад
first vid i watch and already love this channel
@izmotions
@izmotions Год назад
amazing video
@lawrenalba1460
@lawrenalba1460 2 года назад
I almost passed out when it cut to the a7iii at 5 inches away. Such a drastic change. Great content dude!
@MPKVR
@MPKVR 2 года назад
Slickest ad for a desk I've ever seen. The bait and switch was flawless lol
@guyburwell3377
@guyburwell3377 2 года назад
I cannot be convinced that you only have 15k subs! Your Videos are higher quality than 95% of gamer vids. Big up.
@aa65064
@aa65064 2 года назад
One minute in and already a flexispot add… these guys are everywhere
@theurquanmaster
@theurquanmaster 2 года назад
Thanks for bringing this topic up. It's very important to point out how incredibly complicated this matter is. The subjectivity of the sound tests became very obvious to me when I compared sound from my camera's on-board mic vs. my dynamic vocal mic. Onboard mic exaggerates desk reverb and overall noise so that the character of the sound is close to what I hear with my ears but somehow it's louder and less pleasant, while the dynamic mic makes the board sound quieter, lower, and overall better but is farther from what I actually hear. This goes without saying, but this is why any proper testing should aim to eliminate all (or as many as possible) variables except the very thing that's being tested. You can't compare two people's videos about the same board, and if someone is really serious about testing and reviews, they should keep their test setup as consistent as possible, with same board/switches/keycaps (depending on what's being tested), same table, mic, mic placement etc. etc.
@eraserheadSH
@eraserheadSH 2 года назад
best keeb video ever made. thanks
@sghound
@sghound 2 года назад
great vid. and next to test are the 3 pillars of keeb noobdom: THOCC, FLEX, RGB
@tianlamian
@tianlamian 2 года назад
High quality presentation as usual
@lukehorton-crundall750
@lukehorton-crundall750 2 года назад
very good video, haven't seen anyone else talking about how keyboards would sound in different rooms/mic configuration etc. might be cool to see more custom keyboard youtubers feature more specific details about their setup - like maybe the mic they use (+ two tests with different distances from the keyboard*), the mat thickness - if any, possibly the desk thickness as well. maybe even doing more tests as well, like testing with and without the desk mat, on a different desk, in a different room (without acoustic treatment) etc. room acoustics can change the sound a lot. in the test, the further the mic is from the keyboard, the more of the room you can hear (the room reverb... the keyboard sounds hitting the walls and bouncing back into the mic) and if a keyboard youtuber has a very well treated room (foam on the walls, bass traps etc.) there won't be nearly as much reverb in the mic - even when the mic is further away, therefore sounding better overall and possibly giving the listener an inaccurate sound test.
@bngbox
@bngbox Год назад
The thing this video taught me the most, is that I really want a Mode Eighty even more now lol.
@rube9169
@rube9169 2 года назад
The microphone distance test absolutely blew me away! I see sound tests with microphones above the keyboard, often closer than your ears would be, all the time and just thought it was to get cleaner sound with less audio noise. I didn't think changing the distance would completely change the sound. That puts things in a whole new perspective because a lot of expensive keyboards (custom and prebuilt) sound jaw-dropping in a lot of sound tests. In reality, the video could have easily been made to sound as good as possible. Surely the posters notice the difference between in--person and on video? Yet this is the first time I have heard these differences mentioned, let alone demonstrated! This is the kind of detail I like to see when trying to decide what keyboards I like best! (especially as someone on a budget with little to no room for experimentation)
@mojrhikigaya9040
@mojrhikigaya9040 2 года назад
This vid is so good that I hit subscribe without any second thoughts.
@yeahthatsright33
@yeahthatsright33 2 года назад
Ever since this video I just can’t hear sound tears the same way. Thank you for this!
@introbrilliantm7583
@introbrilliantm7583 2 года назад
i'd love to watch similar content just like this one
@Neurons_
@Neurons_ 2 года назад
I’m rolling through the chapters on my phone and it’s oddly satisfying
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