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Why Knife Sharpness Is Not What You Think 

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What actually makes a knife sharp? The answer may surprise you..
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@OUTDOORS55
@OUTDOORS55 4 месяца назад
My wife is currently using this knife to cook dinner, and she was amazed how sharp it was😉🤫
@citizenatlrge
@citizenatlrge 4 месяца назад
That's what I'm saying! It'd be tedious maybe, but shit, I bet you could make these and sell them for kids/novices to safely learn faster knife skills with.
@LuchoTiz1
@LuchoTiz1 4 месяца назад
🤣🤣
@Psyytrance00
@Psyytrance00 4 месяца назад
Best thing is:it cuts groceries like nuts yet it probably can't cut her fingers . 😁
@diavalus
@diavalus 4 месяца назад
This is similar to when some people claim they used their honing rods and their knives turned ‘razor sharp’. They have absolutely no clue how a real razor sharp edge cuts like.
@joso5554
@joso5554 4 месяца назад
@@diavalusexactly. Or they are very good at making their razor blades dull after a single use. 😅
@Christophe_L
@Christophe_L 2 месяца назад
Did you just invent the Safety Knife?
@switchbeck6673
@switchbeck6673 4 месяца назад
I love that your demonstrations show how complicated knife sharpness really is
@pengovan
@pengovan 4 месяца назад
It's actually quite simple if you take some time to learn how the knife works.
@MiguelReyes-yl3bp
@MiguelReyes-yl3bp 4 месяца назад
The power of geometry
@pengovan
@pengovan 4 месяца назад
@@MiguelReyes-yl3bp and physics 😀
@deucedeuce1572
@deucedeuce1572 2 месяца назад
...and how simple it really is too.
@DJ_POOP_IT_OUT_FEAT_LIL_WiiWii
@DJ_POOP_IT_OUT_FEAT_LIL_WiiWii 2 месяца назад
I think knife sharpness is what you think.
@Psyytrance00
@Psyytrance00 4 месяца назад
Yes ! Finally you explained something that bothered me for a while. I am into sharpening for some years now. I sharpened a few knives to a point where they shave and glide through a paper with no resistance. Yet they perform bad in kitchen and this is the answer . Apex is sharp as hell,but geometry of the knife is bad,its too thick behind the apex.
@jameshaulenbeek5931
@jameshaulenbeek5931 4 месяца назад
A great analogy to this is comparing European and Japanese chefs knives. They really are meant for different tasks.
@sdrtcacgnrjrc
@sdrtcacgnrjrc 4 месяца назад
Can you explain which different tasks? Thanks in advance ​@@jameshaulenbeek5931
@Psyytrance00
@Psyytrance00 4 месяца назад
@@jameshaulenbeek5931 True. I have Santoku that has nice geometry,its thin. A great knife.
@thebiggestpanda1
@thebiggestpanda1 4 месяца назад
This is why hollow grind blades can be better than flat or saber grinds. You get the thick spine but because of the hollowed out bevel, you can get really thin behind the edge.
@Psyytrance00
@Psyytrance00 4 месяца назад
@@thebiggestpanda1 Yeah. The Santoku i mentioned earlier is perfect knife . It's good for most of the tasks in the kitchen. Its spine is thick,but it thins down perfectly to the apex. I mean,its not just Santoku,there are many knives made that way. And for us that sharpen em and just recently discovered the geometry problem is much more satisfying to cut with such knives. :)
@sacoto98
@sacoto98 4 месяца назад
And this is one of the biggest problems I see with a lot of custom kitchen knifes. A lot of bladesmiths don't understand what it takes for a knife to perform well in the kitchen. I see so many videos of bladesmiths showing off their knifes gliding through paper and then I look at the choil cross section of the knife and I see something worthy of being almost an axe.
@twatmunro
@twatmunro 4 месяца назад
It's why people have an affection for Japanese "factory" and small workshop knives over proper "custom" knives -- even though they might cost about the same. The Japanese have got cutting ability dialled in. You can't be making knives for sushi and sashimi chefs and be turning out some big fat slab of a kitchen knife.
@user-xf4es7eh9y
@user-xf4es7eh9y 4 месяца назад
heres an idea. dont go to boy brained EDC bro bozos for kitchen knives. common example of this garbage, meglio or whatever his name is. Try going to kitchen knife bros for kitchen knives and ask them. the difference between edc bro world and kitchen knife bro world is night and day. one is full of adolescents boys and the other is full of adult men.
@MACTEP_CHOB
@MACTEP_CHOB 3 месяца назад
They are unforgivable if not used properly. Most ppl probably should stay away. @@twatmunro
@mrkiky
@mrkiky 2 месяца назад
This is why a chef knife is one of the hardest types of knife to make.
@drd1924
@drd1924 Месяц назад
Totally, I see way too many people wanting to get in the Fad of being a knife maker, thinking their product will demand $1000 per blade just because Reeves does.....yet with little to no research of understanding what they are making. an ADHD Generation looking for something to occupy their attention because they need a hobby, which is fine... but then thinking they're an expert. There are very few custom knife makers I see that know what they are making from experience of what the blades intended use is.....skinning knives being a prime example
@oofman1740
@oofman1740 4 месяца назад
Cutting is just pressure over area. So regardless of angle, if the area is small enough and the pressure is great enough, it'll cut.
@OUTDOORS55
@OUTDOORS55 4 месяца назад
Exactly 👍
@igordzuro4353
@igordzuro4353 4 месяца назад
Growing up I was fascinated by how knives actually cut stuff. Learning this principle of how knives are supposed to work led me to sharpen and even make knives 👍
@joso5554
@joso5554 4 месяца назад
I don’t agree 100%. What you say is exact for cleavers, axes, and chef knives used in a purely vertical cutting movement onto a cutting board. But for most uses, a knife is used in a sliding motion, not just a vertical pressure. That sliding creates a shear effect, which is when the microscopic shape along the edge (micro-serrations from burr, e.g.) can have a significant influence by contributing to a « saw » effect which would play no role in a vertical cut. For that reason, I’m not so sure that the knife in this video wouldn’t risk cutting fingers easily in such a sliding motion… But I won’t volunteer to test it!
@igordzuro4353
@igordzuro4353 4 месяца назад
@@joso5554in a way oofman is still right even in the situation you're describing because microscopic serrations sitting in a row in a formation called "burr" or "hair" are so tiny they create a lot of pressure and thus are able to "cut". This is why machinists use a "deburrer" on corners because even very defined 90° corners on a big part that don't have a bevel and seem very "thick" as opposed to a thin knife edge can be left with a burr after machining that can lead to very nasty cuts. Trust me...
@ashleymiller7439
@ashleymiller7439 4 месяца назад
I learned about that the hard way my 3rd day on the job as a line cook. The sharpest things in a commercial kitchen are not the knives but instead things like the edges of stainless steel flashing on the walls and various unfinished edges around the line and prep sinks. @@igordzuro4353
@allanknives
@allanknives 4 месяца назад
Never a dull moment in this channel that’s for sure 🔪
@glennac
@glennac 4 месяца назад
😂 That was worth a thumbs up. It’s as clever as a toilet lever.
@OUTDOORS55
@OUTDOORS55 4 месяца назад
I see what you did there😉
@user-xw4gr9kn8n
@user-xw4gr9kn8n 2 месяца назад
Yeah! This whole episode had me right on the edge.
@sirspongadoodle
@sirspongadoodle 23 дня назад
@@user-xw4gr9kn8n i was edging to this video...
@paulkresky1465
@paulkresky1465 4 месяца назад
You are, as you said, just scratching the surface of this subject. As a person who was trained by Sami (Finnish Indigenous) knifemakers as a kid. (Traditional Pukko and filet knives), and as a major trapper up near Canada when I was a kid in the 60's and 70's, there was a great deal of debate and opinions on how sharp you want an edge. For different uses. Most real hunters and trappers back then, me included, wanted a very sharp boning and filet knife with a very thin blade. ( I used a Canadian belt knife for that. Also called Green River knives) And they had just come out with the hip pocket size "safety" boning saws that fit in a leather belt sheath. Some used their hatchet for that. Buck 110's were all the rage, and quite revolutionary back then. Whether a person carried one of those or a sheathed fixed blade hunting knife, there was great argument over whether you wanted a "toothy" edge, or a refined smooth, apexed edge. That debate still continues. I carried one of the original Schrade Walden HS1 Honesteels in it's leather pouch on my belt. Those were covered in chromium carbide oxide coating. (Some butcher steels had, and still have that today.) Chromium carbide was like the "diamond stones" of the time. They do peel steel off the edge of the knife, but they leave a rough toothy edge. That made cutting meat and game a breeze when deep in the woods, and not a cabin filled with proper gadgets. As a knife and sharpening guy myself, I preferred the toothy edge for the field. A properly apexed and hair whittling knife edge would break and roll over too fast during heavy use. A more toothy edge lasts much longer in the field. Herein is why I think even experienced knife guys fight over gadgets and methods. Some only want mirror polished razor edges. All the time. Other people could care less about perfectionism all the time. And are perfectly fine with rough, toothy edges. There are so many preferences. And different knife edges, thickness, angle, etc. are meant for different uses anyway. As you well know. (Another big debate was softer steels versus harder steels, and which was better for field use. I preferred high quality 420HC. Easier to sharpen in the field, and could get pretty darn sharp.) P.s.- Schrade Honesteels have been garbage for a long time now. Thanks again for your videos Alex, even though we don't always agree. Hope you make enough money off your videos, and your Amazon links to make it all worth your time.
@mikafoxx2717
@mikafoxx2717 3 месяца назад
Toothy edge is my go-to. Plus you only need one stone. Or in a pinch, a river rock. (Went from flat blade screwdriver dull to pretty dang sharp)
@mantzbrinkman4780
@mantzbrinkman4780 3 месяца назад
@@mikafoxx2717 I have a lot of nice kitchen knives. My favorite one is made of two hardness types of steel that are interwoven (Damascus type). I am able to get it quite sharp and as that sharp edge wears, the difference between the softer steel and the harder steel creates micro serrations. At least for kitchen use, it is my favorite. It seems to hold its sharp/useful cutting properties the best and is relatively easy to retouch the blade when needed.
@paulkresky1465
@paulkresky1465 3 месяца назад
​​​​@@mikafoxx2717 Good river rocks, huge flat rocks, or outcroppings, ledges, have some of the best sharpening stones you can find. I am from the Great Lakes area, so imagine what those rocks are like. When a person is deep in the woods for extended periods of time, you don't have room to pack much. I don't call being in the woods, being at the cabin! 😂 You need tools that work, and can save your life. For long periods of time. That doesn't equate to being in my shop, barn, etc., where I can hand sharpen to razor edges, which I also love. For the "real woods"? I prefer my toothy edge that cuts well, holds up well, and is easy to maintain. I carry two stones. One for back up. And use natural stones in the field all the time. (P.s.- to all the keyboard warriors who only preach "razor edges", and criticise anything else, I have three words for them to show they are being hypocritical, and don't realize it. "Serrated steak knives!!") (Lol) (Many different types of edges have their place in different scenarios.) It's no different when you are in the field. Especially as an on foot trapper. Technically, ALL knives are serrated. It's just what degree of fineness those serrations are. Thanks for your reply. Have a good day!
@Yupppi
@Yupppi 2 месяца назад
Thanks for a good read. I suppose Saami people are sort of Lapland indigenous, spreading across nordic borders even, fun to find them mentioned randomly on a comment.
@paulkresky1465
@paulkresky1465 2 месяца назад
​@Yupppi Exactly. They are nicknamed The Reindeer People as traditionally their lives depend on the reindeer. And they travel around with the herds when the herds migrate. These people are also in parts of Russia as well. They are the originators of the classic Scandinavian knife designs. Both Puuko knives, (think Mora knife), and the classic filet knives. They also originated what we call the Scandi knife grind. Along the way the Scandinavians came up with their own special blend of steel that was traditionally called Sandvik steel, as the Sandvik area was famous for it's forges and factories cranking out that steel blend. "Sandvik" steel is still probably my favorite overall everyday use knife steel. Tough, very rust resistant, easy to sharpen, gets razor sharp, and is easy to hand sharpen and maintain in the field.
@kymcopyriot9776
@kymcopyriot9776 4 месяца назад
Thanks! And this is what drives me nuts about most of the current crop of pocket knives. They usually have relatively thick stock, are usually flat ground and thick behind the edge. So the moment they lose their sharpened bevel, they cease to cut because the geometry does them no favours at all. We need more hollow ground pocket knives!
@OUTDOORS55
@OUTDOORS55 4 месяца назад
Same here👍
@pengovan
@pengovan 4 месяца назад
There will never be more hollow ground pocket knives or knives with thin stock. The reason is quite simple: too many people use knives the wrong way! No, you should not use your knife as a pry bar! No, you should not use the knife to baton the stupid log! The manufacturers will use insane thickness stocks as long as people will use knives incorrectly. PS: Boker Atlas is the king of pocket knives
@Bob_Adkins
@Bob_Adkins 4 месяца назад
Amen. Only a few folder users really benefit from a thick edge, or even a thick blade. Not many baton or pry open oysters with their EDC!
@AnAntidisestablishmentarianist
@AnAntidisestablishmentarianist 4 месяца назад
My CIVIVI Elementum is hollow ground.
@MrJayGoliath
@MrJayGoliath 4 месяца назад
To quote Dr Larrin : edge geometry. Super steel with super HT still don’t cut it
@FireZenix
@FireZenix 4 месяца назад
Your videos are really amazing, keep them coming hehe. But as a knifemaker myself, I couldnt believe that a dull knife could cut well, then one day I just tried it and was blown away. I knew from other makers that blade geometry and thinness is everything, but its a different story when you feel it first hand.
@OUTDOORS55
@OUTDOORS55 4 месяца назад
Its amazing once you feel a really thin blade😁
@jameshaulenbeek5931
@jameshaulenbeek5931 4 месяца назад
The nasty cut you can get from a feeler gauge will reinforce this.
@krazmokramer
@krazmokramer 4 месяца назад
@@jameshaulenbeek5931 Cringe! Been there. Done that.
@gedfi
@gedfi 4 месяца назад
​@@OUTDOORS55It's even more amazing when you feel a thin *sharp* blade.
@jez76
@jez76 4 месяца назад
I have an old set of Global knifes, +25 years old, and when I started learning sharpening I have constantly thinned them behind the edge every time I do a proper sharpening session, and while the knifes themselves are nothing fancy they really can split atoms when they’re “fresh”. Edge geometry is a hell of a thing.
@SL-jo4om
@SL-jo4om 4 месяца назад
Wow! This video is THE single most informative explanation and demonstration of both the theoretical and practical aspects of knife sharpening. Great production quality too. After watching this and a few of your other videos (including the one linked to at the end), I suddenly understand why my attempts to durably sharpen my own knives over several years were so fruitless. It's like a Road to Damascus moment (pun intended). Thank you for this amazing content.
@jacksmack2382
@jacksmack2382 4 месяца назад
Really like this new series of videos you are doing on sharpness, sharpening, and edge retention! Thank you for doing it.
@popaionut5270
@popaionut5270 4 месяца назад
I am following your videos from about 4 years and i learn a lot from You, i had buy from your links and i can Sharp knife tò cut hair but never tò pull hair on knife and tò bite....You are good ,people for sure Dont understand how Sharp that Is....
@TheOneAndOnlySame
@TheOneAndOnlySame 4 месяца назад
Yeah but that's actually not good to push knives to such sharpness. Whittling hair is not what knives are made for, you have razors for that. Hair whittling edges are fragile and won't last. Those channels push false ideas about knives. This is circle jerk . On the other side of the spectrum you have clowns like joey x that use knives as crowbars and people praising him for that. Those are both ridiculous approaches and clearly the product of entertainment , more than any serious source of info.
@stuartdavenport2952
@stuartdavenport2952 4 месяца назад
"Geometry cuts, heat treatment determines how long" - Roman Landes. And I would add that as long as the steel is a cutlery grade steel, the actual steel really doesn't matter. I never ship a knife that cannot cut a sheet of printer paper with just the primary bevel geometry (i.e. not sharpened). If it won't cut the printer paper, the geometry is too thick. And it isn't just about the thinness, either. Food release is important, and to that end a slight convex above the edge is key.
@wozzlebaby5313
@wozzlebaby5313 12 дней назад
What thickness do you recommend for a kitchen knife for most household mothers? 0.020" thickness maybe with a sliiiight concave above the apex?
@setonsun5315
@setonsun5315 4 месяца назад
Excellent information, great video. In my experience cutting a soft tomato has been the best example of a honing rod giving an advantage to a dull knife, and in that specific case the micro serration from forming a slight burr would cause the tomato skin to more easily split.
@haqvor
@haqvor 4 месяца назад
Those "laser sharpened" knifes (do they still exist?) with very aggressive serration took that idea and made a market of it. They didn't really cut anything but with a lot of small points they basically tore the food apart.
@sdrtcacgnrjrc
@sdrtcacgnrjrc 4 месяца назад
​@@haqvor I like a good saw in the kitchen
@user-im9ov9ud7m
@user-im9ov9ud7m 4 месяца назад
​@@haqvor... Tearing to release the flavor 😸
@skilletborne
@skilletborne 4 месяца назад
@@user-im9ov9ud7m If the food is in two halves, accurately and easily, why does it matter?
@Count_Smackula
@Count_Smackula 4 месяца назад
Never thought about it before, but now that you mention it, the knife I almost always reach for first in the kitchen has the thinnest blade.
@davidrees1840
@davidrees1840 4 месяца назад
I imagine the $1 knife would perform really badly if the square edge was polished rather than rough. I think many materials 'cut' better with micro saw teeth vs a scalpel edge. Excellent thought-provoking video as always, and Happy New Year!
@nunya___
@nunya___ 4 месяца назад
I once had a set of "lazer" kitchen knives with micro laser cuts that went 1/3 up the blade geometry. They cut great and lasted years, never sharpened.
@kingoietro99
@kingoietro99 3 месяца назад
@@nunya___das cool
@MrBearbait75
@MrBearbait75 4 месяца назад
Good stuff! Keep going on this series! Love your delving into the details of what makes sharpness!
@bentravis99
@bentravis99 4 месяца назад
Thank you for all the information you have been presenting lately! Amazing info and your close up photos are really appreciated to help understand what is going on as well.
@citizenatlrge
@citizenatlrge 4 месяца назад
FFS I'm in LOVE with this series. I hope you put all of these in a playlist that I can add. Additionally, you just gave me the great idea of thinning and squaring a knife specifically for my 14 yo to really begin learning with. I'm stoked to break out the 1x30" HF belt sander lmao.
@lordchiopet1630
@lordchiopet1630 3 месяца назад
Always love seeing the subtlety and nuance brought forward in stuff like this. There's a lot of ways to get the same job done and I would've NEVER guessed that was a flat edge you were cutting with
@cavemandanwilder5597
@cavemandanwilder5597 4 месяца назад
Great breakdown. It took me a loonng time to fully appreciate this, so I’m glad every time I see a good explanation of it intended for beginners.
@btall3833
@btall3833 4 месяца назад
The best knife content out there. I started sharpening knives in the 90’s with a Lanskey, it worked and taught me about correct angles, but I was always looking for something quicker, better, etc. I’ve tried paper wheels, Work Sharp, whatever was touted as the latest and greatest. After I started watching your content, I finally was confident enough to switch to free hand sharpening. What a difference, so much more satisfying, thank you for sharing your knowledge and skills with all of us who appreciate having and using a sharp knife. Looking forward to your future videos! God bless you and thanks again!
@jchart
@jchart 4 месяца назад
You're my favorite knife-related channel and it's not even close. Keep up the great work! Very good educational content.
@csquared4538
@csquared4538 3 месяца назад
I've been a sub for quite awhile. Stopped the knife hobby lately but you've been seriously crushing it with the conceptual videos. Really good stuff.
@slo_carry
@slo_carry 4 месяца назад
Love how you always give great explanations
@matthewcollinsangler
@matthewcollinsangler 4 месяца назад
Hey man, loving your work! The effort you put in and the lengths you go to to cover the subject of knife sharpness is insane! Keep up the good work. Regards, Matt.
@doid0666
@doid0666 4 месяца назад
You're starting a revolution here, sir. I'm really glad buying a Honing Steel brought you more video oportunities, and I really hope this knowledge gets spread out so people can start selling better 1 dollar kitchen knives using geometry, and so obviously other knives also get improoved.
@AlarKemmotar
@AlarKemmotar Месяц назад
I recently made my first couple knives. On my second one, I put a primary bevel all the way from the spine to the edge like he did here, but then also sharpened the edge up too. I've been amazed at how smoothly it slides through just about anything I cut with it.
@BirnieMac1
@BirnieMac1 3 месяца назад
I love the amount of information and the depth you go into the theory background of it all; great work mate
@shawnbottom4769
@shawnbottom4769 4 месяца назад
This video is a masterclass in presentation and concept progression. Well done.
@All_Things_Out_Doors
@All_Things_Out_Doors 4 месяца назад
Fantastic call out!!!
@user-qe1xb7qb4t
@user-qe1xb7qb4t 4 месяца назад
Love your videos man keep up the good work
@Vulpes175
@Vulpes175 4 месяца назад
I always learn from your videos. Thanks!
@JoeSevy
@JoeSevy 4 месяца назад
I've been sharpening for roughly 50 years, and if I hadn't seen you do it, I wouldn't believe it. I still won't really believe it till I do it myself. Great video!
@DconBlueZ
@DconBlueZ 4 месяца назад
LOL love the last bit. Thanks for the video, I usually learn something and always enjoy watching!
@jeffreydawson4520
@jeffreydawson4520 4 месяца назад
You’ve been crushing it with your videos recently, not like you weren’t before as far as content, but the production quality has risen. Great stuff! Steve makes a helluva good knife, I’m looking forward to getting another one before too long!
@francoutah
@francoutah 4 месяца назад
Thank you for giving us your knowledge and teaching us such valuable skills. You're an excellent teacher and I am a big fan of your hair widdling demonstrations. You are the real deal. I should know. I've spent 35+ years working in professional kitchens. I myself have taught hundreds, if not thousands of people how to cook and sharpen their own knives. Keep it going!
@1495978707
@1495978707 2 месяца назад
I just bought the book in your description. Good guy doing good work made a good book at a good price, so it's a no brainer to support that
@fuzzynuttz5092
@fuzzynuttz5092 4 месяца назад
I found that when you make the scratch pattern on your secondary bevel run in a diagonal direction, it helps form the micro serrations that you want for the blade to have that "bite"
@meschnik2548
@meschnik2548 4 месяца назад
never thought about this but i guess it could help
@haqvor
@haqvor 4 месяца назад
For some tasks it is important for the performance. For example a hunting knife doesn't benefit from a high grit mirror finish, if you stop at about a 1000 grit you create the micro serration that gives it a better bite with such a more heavy duty task.
@fuzzynuttz5092
@fuzzynuttz5092 4 месяца назад
@haqvor yea, and I would give it a couple of passes on a strop with 6 micron gunny juice
@albertosara416
@albertosara416 4 месяца назад
I knew sharpening wasn't an easy matter from watching your other videos, but this one really put a lot of things into perspective.
@chriswasta7765
@chriswasta7765 4 месяца назад
More on this please. thank you for what you do and best regards, Chris
@-fazik-3713
@-fazik-3713 4 месяца назад
Thank You for those videos!
@knry9125
@knry9125 4 месяца назад
Great explanation! Thank you.
@hrnekbezucha
@hrnekbezucha 4 месяца назад
Mind blown. Thanks for making this experiment. Makes me question everything I thought I knew
@HTS_EDC
@HTS_EDC 4 месяца назад
Great explanation and tutorial....👍👏
@echos-myron
@echos-myron 4 месяца назад
I’m a Murray Carter sharpening method disciple; and it’s the most important thing in terms of how a knife performs that I learned from his fundamentals course. That and being able to put an edge on a knife using a cinderblock from the garden, river rocks, cardboard etc. Also, easily the hardest thing to explain to someone who’s unfamiliar with edged implements and how a good one should perform. You do a great job breaking the concept down in a way that’s easily understood as usual. ❤
@BikingVikingHH
@BikingVikingHH 4 месяца назад
What?
@jez76
@jez76 4 месяца назад
👍🏼 I was thinking about Murrays video when I saw the apple cutting. How a dull edge crushes the cells in the apple leaving a sliced apple brown after a short while, while the apple cut with a sharp knife still looks fresh.
@twatmunro
@twatmunro 4 месяца назад
Old Murray Carter was great. Modern Murray Carter who insists that you need to spend a fortune on his pal's extra special whetstones and thousand dollar flattening gear I'm not such a fan of. I miss the guy who did it all with a King 1000/6000 combi whetstone.
@echos-myron
@echos-myron 4 месяца назад
@@jez76 when you show that to someone in person minds get blown; I like to do it a nice Onion especially. Murray’s shirts that said Stop Vegetable Abuse; Use Sharp Knives made me laugh every time I would see one. The Japanese masters have it dialed in to a degree that nobody else does in my opinion.
@echos-myron
@echos-myron 4 месяца назад
@@twatmunro Fair point; Yeah I was a bit bummed when I saw those videos for the Nano Hone setup; and I’m sure they’re incredibly good stones; but Murray’s original thing was go buy this $30 king combo and get a bucket of water; setup complete; and it works very well. I don’t have a $1000 to put into that nano hone setup; and don’t need it to put edges on knives that freak people out; King and Naniwa budget stones produce those results.
@BladesAndFadesOfficial
@BladesAndFadesOfficial 4 месяца назад
Great video and explanation! Steve is one of the guys who inspired me to start my channel. Awesome guy and knows his stuff ! 💯
@slaxxx
@slaxxx 4 месяца назад
This is great. We love super steel Steve. Thank you
@raydurni1175
@raydurni1175 4 месяца назад
You made me get hooked on sharpening! Another great video. My grandpa was good at it. I could never come close to his skill. He used a washita white stone. I'm still not very good at it but now I have the basic skills thanks to you. It's an art which requires lots of practice!!!
@Tsxtasy1
@Tsxtasy1 4 месяца назад
Idk what sparked it. But your video quality (production, equipment, story, delivery) has taken a big jump upward recently. And you started from a place that was already good. Keep up the good work!
@NicholasPellegrino
@NicholasPellegrino 4 месяца назад
Please continue this!
@DeanCalaway
@DeanCalaway 4 месяца назад
I love this content, keep the videos coming.
@brakeme1
@brakeme1 4 месяца назад
You have really developed well over your RU-vid career. You have pulled ahead of the pack . Neat to see. I am a professional sharpener who sharpens roughly 600 knives per week....but trained on salon shears with convex edges.
@meschnik2548
@meschnik2548 4 месяца назад
okay, with this you surely got my sub for sure. i was sceptical about the honing rods etc. but this makes pure sense on a broad and detailed view. greetings from germany
@OUTDOORS55
@OUTDOORS55 4 месяца назад
I appreciate the sub🙏
@TheYoutubeUser69
@TheYoutubeUser69 4 месяца назад
diamond/ceramic honing rods do work, no? so only the cheapo metal ones are problematic
@twatmunro
@twatmunro 4 месяца назад
@@TheRU-vidUser69 -- When I bought my first "good" kitchen knife -- a Wusthof -- I also bought the Wusthof ceramic honing rod to go with it. It does remove steel. However, it doesn't remove it fast enough to have any discernable effect on sharpness that I can tell.
@eviljods
@eviljods 4 месяца назад
Food for thought, interesting video. Good job
@rxotmfrxotmf8208
@rxotmfrxotmf8208 4 месяца назад
Very good. Made me think. Thanks
@mnhoss2100
@mnhoss2100 4 месяца назад
Great video as always sir
@gregmccormack5709
@gregmccormack5709 4 месяца назад
Love this Video. Very interesting.
@DanGoodShotHD
@DanGoodShotHD 4 месяца назад
I'm really enjoying this.
@drewrinker2071
@drewrinker2071 4 месяца назад
Wow man, your content never ceases to amaze me, I'm always learning something new watching your channel and I really enjoy the content you put out there and how you can take a normal dollar tree knife, make it cut like a 100 dollar chef knife . I like the hat you break down the science of sharpness and put it in laymen's terms that anybody can understand. Keep up the awesome content my man.
@bladetasticknives5712
@bladetasticknives5712 4 месяца назад
Informative and well done 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@EUSilverleaf
@EUSilverleaf 4 месяца назад
I've been binging your videos. Stellar quality, nice job. You take a scientific approach, you prepare and theorize, iterate, and show your work. I'm incredibly impressed by the amount of work you're putting into this. As a beginner in hobby knife sharpening, this is super helpful. I've learned: -Leading or trailing edge makes little/no difference. -If you're going to use compounds to strop, use a high grade diamond. Otherwise don't bother. -Waterstones (aluminum oxide) are best ignored by beginners or people sharpening higher quality steel knives. -A blunt knife can cut pretty well actually. -Working a coarse grind (around 300 grit) makes a knife edge sharp enough for most people to be acceptable. I'm considering the following: Your onion cutting was a push-cut. While geometry might get the blade through the onion, a sharp edge gets it through the first layer, I think. So what happens when you cut a tomato with that blunt knife? Does it smoosh? The point wasn't to start cutting all your veg with a blunt knife, I get that. But it does lead me to wonder what the effective use of the secondary bevel is. Because simply, my knives get duller over time, and they don't cut as well. But the primary bevel doesn't diminish. The secondary bevel must be involved. I'm missing something here, and I wonder whether your could elaborate by commenting, if you do have the time. Thanks again for making these videos!
@lil-j-waters
@lil-j-waters 2 месяца назад
wow, this makes so much sense! i always wondered why all the focus is on the apex
@antouab221
@antouab221 4 месяца назад
Man, I thought I'd see Clint Eastwood again, lol. The last video I watched was the one about steel rods and made me laugh all day, it was awesome (the duel in steel sharpening ). Keep up with these amazing video, I watch each and every one of them.
@oneeyeman6258
@oneeyeman6258 4 месяца назад
Very interesting thoughts!
@sm00fe
@sm00fe 22 дня назад
As allways, job well done. Please keep up your work. With the best wishes for your health and future from Europe 🙂
@fletchersreign1811
@fletchersreign1811 4 месяца назад
This is a hilarious video after everything you've already done with the knife, really puts it into perspective how much people take things so seriously
@miker5502
@miker5502 4 месяца назад
Great explanation…this is why a great big honking thick Bowie knife sucks at deboning a trout..lol😊even though it might give you a great shave and whittle hair. The edge behind the edge is too thick. You nailed it by saying this is just scratching the surface. Keep them coming! Cheers MikeR.
@ktmkaratechips
@ktmkaratechips 4 месяца назад
I learned something. Thanks
@wolfingitdown2047
@wolfingitdown2047 4 месяца назад
This is what we (I) have all been waiting for!
@horstelvis83
@horstelvis83 4 месяца назад
Wow! I thought about this and now saw it! Thank you for emphazising the geometry of a knife for cutting performance! :-)
@alexmartins5496
@alexmartins5496 4 месяца назад
Hi Alex, love your videos, it really has improved my technique and speed. I am curious though, i havent seen a video dedicated to sharpening the belly of the blade, or the curved part near the tip. Are you planning on making a video about this or do you have one already up and i just havent found it yet
@MrShank12u
@MrShank12u 4 месяца назад
Informative
@aerball
@aerball 3 месяца назад
Its interesting to see a video on this. I dont know much about knives but I have always felt like knives that were thinner just seemed to work better for cooking work and I never really knew if it was true or not.
@YannMetalhead
@YannMetalhead 2 месяца назад
Good video!
@erictjones
@erictjones 3 месяца назад
Thanks for acknowledging the small serrations possible affecting the results.
@dragoscoco2173
@dragoscoco2173 2 месяца назад
Those are milquetoast food items that can be cut with the back of the knife as well. When you get into tendons, skin or even the humble Butternut squash, that primary is just not enough.
@th3b0yg
@th3b0yg 4 месяца назад
I dig it! Useful information! I wonder if there is more to explore in this vein, e.g. at what hardness or toughness does it become important to have an apex? Are there other geometries, e.g. a dull saw tooth edge like on some pumpkin carving tools, that are particularly well-suited to particular cutting tasks? What about material removal v.s. simply breaking molecular bonds? Etc.
@SpaceMonkey23101
@SpaceMonkey23101 3 месяца назад
Only recently found out about 'blade thinning' and applied it to my kitchen knives. Amazing improvement! It needs to be talked about more.
@dragoscoco2173
@dragoscoco2173 2 месяца назад
Wait till you find out about grinding shallow grooves on the sides for the kitchen.
@LabiaLicker
@LabiaLicker 3 месяца назад
Wow you learn something everyday... or every video with you.
@user-im9ov9ud7m
@user-im9ov9ud7m 4 месяца назад
All of this is what makes knives so alluring and irresistible 💙
@dmitryk754
@dmitryk754 4 месяца назад
Truth spoken here!!
@beenabarna1403
@beenabarna1403 4 месяца назад
Thank you.
@nobodyatall7039
@nobodyatall7039 2 месяца назад
I'm a professional butcher and I can confirm that the performance of an edge in classic sharpness tests only has a loose correlation with how it performs in meat.
@chrishoesing5455
@chrishoesing5455 4 месяца назад
Man I enjoy your logical scientific take on this topic. Your style reminds me of Mathias Wandel, which is a good thing!
@jakubj3879
@jakubj3879 4 месяца назад
Could you also do a video about edges from custom knife makers? Like what's the real difference between s-grind, convex, flat, full flat etc? What's its role compared to primary & secondary bevel?
@johnduffy6546
@johnduffy6546 2 месяца назад
As a knife sharpness maniac myself, I think you did an incredible job of explaining the physics & geometry!
@Toasty27
@Toasty27 4 месяца назад
and here i was always confused why people where perfectly happy with their dull knives, not even realizing how dull they were
@guyindisguise
@guyindisguise 4 месяца назад
Found your channel just recently and binged a couple of the newer videos but now I'm confused. I just want an easy time cutting in the kitchen and was planning to get a Shapton 1000 as you recommended in another video. Is it better to get a thin knife for kitchen work than learning how to sharpen my existing knives? Do I need both?
@OUTDOORS55
@OUTDOORS55 4 месяца назад
This is just a demonstration. I wouldn't actually use this without a secondary sharpened bevel (unless you count tonight since I made dinner with it😉) Use your existing knives and learn to sharpen. But of course if youd like something higher end thats up to you. Thin knives are expensive due to the time involved in making them🙂
@Kenchinito2207
@Kenchinito2207 3 месяца назад
Thank you for this video. I’ve been a sharpening enthusiast for a few years now and I have a humble collection of different knives mostly ranging in the 30$. I was quite satisfied with those knives and my sharpening skills. When I got my first fancy knife (a Masamoto VG 210mm) which is very thin compared to my other knives, it made me feel like I’ve been living a lie all this time. I couldn’t explain it but the knife just cut better. This video made it click.
@oscr_zen
@oscr_zen 4 месяца назад
I must say, You're on a fucking roll with these videos, keep em coming!!
@jensebu78
@jensebu78 4 месяца назад
Great Video. The only thing i would love would be metrical System. At least written on the screen. Whole world is using it 😅 Btw. Really love your content!!😊
@jackw3068
@jackw3068 4 месяца назад
Makes perfect intuitive sense to anyone who's gotten a paper cut.
@ShermanChin
@ShermanChin 4 месяца назад
That's what makes my Swiss Army Knife an awesome cutting tool although it has not been sharpened.💪
@Zack74826
@Zack74826 4 месяца назад
Holy fuck you are the coolest. So many ways something can be "sharp"
@samspade2104
@samspade2104 4 месяца назад
Another interesting video. Thank you. In case I haven't said this before, you are one of the most intelligent RU-vid sharpener guys out there. I consider your channel invaluable. Again, many thanks.
@OUTDOORS55
@OUTDOORS55 4 месяца назад
I wouldn't say that, perhaps just the loudest 😉 Thanks for the comment really appreciate it 👊
@iPKnives
@iPKnives 4 месяца назад
I saw the 3 videos and am very happy to say I learned a few things on honing rods and more. If you want to use food to test sharpness, I think tomatoes, fish skin, pig skin and tougher stuff are the way to go. Anyway, what can I offer my knife customers in stead of a ceramic honing rod? I know for a fact that people are scared of stones and other bulky stuff. There should be a diamond sharpener with a handle (just like a honing rod) BUT with a leather strop on the other side... maybe I'll try to make one off those.
@joso5554
@joso5554 4 месяца назад
I believe there actually are diamond coated « honing » rods. Besides ceramic rods and classic steel ones. As of food for testing, I may also suggest kiwi fruit (similar to tomato, actually) and hard cheese like old Mimolette (orange, very hard) or Parmigiano Reggiano.
@dragoscoco2173
@dragoscoco2173 2 месяца назад
2$ scythe sharpening stone. Excellent results can be achieved with bubblegum change.
@undersky596
@undersky596 4 месяца назад
Next questions I have now is about geometry and edge retention. I have a everyday use kinda camping survival style knife, it has a massive primary compared to secondary. I've often wondered if I should adjust the geometry to make it "sharper" but have wondered whether that's important for its edge retention at more brutal tasks. I realise this might be a very silly question and nuanced answer.
@OUTDOORS55
@OUTDOORS55 4 месяца назад
Not silly whatsoever its a really good question. Generally speaking thinner edge geometry always improves edge retention. At least until you run into edge rolling or other serious edge damage. I left a link to a book in the description called knife engineering by Dr larrin Thomas. Its a GREAT book with all kinds of info on this. Or check out knife steel nerds website👍
@carazy123_
@carazy123_ 3 месяца назад
As someone only a little familiar with knife edge geometry, I’d expect a worn (dull) knife to have a rounded, not square, apex. Does wear actually result in a square edge? It seems to me that the squared apex creates a false edge that still aids in cutting, meaning it is still “sharp” to dragging motions.
@Healcraft
@Healcraft 4 месяца назад
I await the next part
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