Why Larry Bird is NOT Top 10 | LOW KNOWS 

Chills Kobe hate was exposed today

Marz needs to learn some ball and get off of basketball reference he only knows MATHSKETBALL and narratives watch the game buddy

Chill continue to expose himself as the biggest Kobe hater ever

If Bird was bad then Jordan sucked because the Celtics ran through the Bulls lol.

LOW...Word is saying the best player in the world usually influences the basketball masses like Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant and LeBron James did in their primes.

Larry Bird is NOT Top 10. Yes, because Larry top 2 all time.

We have real reason to knock KOBE so they make things up that has nothing to do with basketball. -LOW, CHI11

Hot take Big guards with high stocks John wall Shai Dejounte Murray Are the most overrated archetype of defenders in the history of the nba

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Birds peak was better than Kobe....... AYOOOOO🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

Y’all can read my comment & talk about it on the next episode of The Panel, “Cooper Flagg will be the best prospect coming to the NBA and Cooper Flagg is better than Victor Wembanyama”

Low DON’T know ish 😂 smh

Low just wrong jimmy butler has prove all the time he’s him in the playoffs he just hates jimmy butler and another thing Low and Marz it’s all hypothetical u wouldn’t know how y’all would think about Jordan in the 90s winning his first 3peat he would be in most people goat conversations but to dismiss y’all wouldn’t call him that is all hypothetical

My GOAT List 1. Lebron 2. Jordan 3. Kareem 4. Duncan 5. Shaq 6. Hakeem 7. Kobe 8. Russell 9. Magic 10. Curry 11. Bird 12. Wilt 13. Garnett

low really does know

If your going by the case of Jokic still getting credit being an MVP caliber player this year, then Harden should get more credit as a player cause you can make the case Harden was an MVP in 2015, 2017 and 2019, so you talking about a 4 time MVP, how does Harden legacy change being a 4 time MVP

Word is correct. There's probably nothing that pisses me off more than the love Giannis gets. he can just suck in the half-court in the playoffs. Best player over the past 2-3 years? 2nd to Jokic? 1st or second best player right now? He failed in the playoffs every year aside from 2021, resume speaks for itself. Playoff half court offense is.. pretty important. It's actually so important. He actually got gentleman swept by the heat, and he's not better than Steph Curry. I personally have him 4th behind Luka and Curry.

This is what happens when irrational people with no sense or lives just start talking for no reason. Bird top ten easy Have a nice day

I mean kg is not better than dirk

Early career 29(worst) wins to 62(second best) wins first season. Bird was top 4 in defensive win shares. Bird was an underrated defender by miles.

Larry bird had what you call shadow defense. Just like on offense, people didn't see him coming. Hed sneak a swipe block on the back portion of a shot, or shift one way and snatch steals in passing lanes.

This was one of the best streams on this show just straight hoop talks i really enjoyed i stayed on till the end

The dude that Michael Jordan never beat in the playoffs isn’t top 10 all time? Give me a break 🤡

CHILL JUST SOLIDIFIED HIS KOBE HATE 😂😂😂😂😂 OMG THIS IS A CLASSIC 🥲

​@MarzTalksSports I hope you aren't actually considering quiting youtube. I genuinely look forward to the weekend hoop talk.

Is Low the only one that’s always looking at his computer? 😂

only player in HISTORY to average atleast 24 points, 10 rebounds and 6 assists per game for his CAREER. he ALSO shot 50/40/90 mULTIPLE seasons and led the league 4 times in DWS (defensive winshares) and came in 2nd twice or 3 times.. he is the MOST ALL AROUND PLAYER EVER with the SECOND highest winning percentage EVER.. if he is not in your top 5 then you DONT know basketball

Stop the cap. Of course Larry is top 10

Name the top defenders on the celtics 1980 and tell me bird is not a 2 way player lol

Anyone without Larry in their top 10 knows absolutely NOTHING about basketball

Michael says your wrong. LeBron says your wrong. Magic says your wrong. Isaiah says your wrong. Reggie says your wrong. Dominique says your wrong. Kareem says your wrong. Charles says your wrong. Clyde says your wrong. Gary says your wrong....

Each stream makes me question chill even more ngl

Anyone that doesn't have Bird top 10 is someone who's opinion no longer matters. It's ridiculous how many i hear about this player doing this or that player doing that as to why they are top10 but won't do the same for Bird for the same things. Bird takes the same team that only won 20 something to 40 something then by simply adding Parrish at center and McHale off the bench (not even starting) to 60+ wins and a Ring. Bird for 4 straight seasons 84-88 while only missing 16 games averaged a 50-40-90 while putting up over 28 points, 10 rebounds and 7 assists per game. Name me anyone, ANYONE close to that...I'll save you the trouble, you can't. 3 straight MVPs 3 Rings vs the Dr J/Malone 76ers, the Showtime Lakers and the bad boy Pistons. And clutch...Larry was so clutch people were 10 times more shocked when Bird missed that game winner in the Finals vs the Lakers. Bird was one of, if not the most skilled and fundamentally perfect players ever. If you don't realize this, I honestly don't know what fucking sport you're watching.

Low and Marz can easily be defeated in a debate but you guys don’t know how to DEBATE! Low and Marz aren’t these gurus of basketball, but they are great debaters and know how to debate. They do have some nasty tactics that they use. Low loves to control the debate and ask the questions, this will always appear like you are in control of the debate and you’re “winning”. Marz would be harder to debate than Low because he’s quick witted like LOW but he also trolls and idk how y’all can’t tell when he’s trolling, it’s so obvious. You can’t argue emotionally against them, they will win every time. This is why Ticket gets “cooked” by them. You have to fight fire with fire. I can logically beat both of these clowns in a debate and honestly any of you guys can too. Ignore the trolling/condescending tone and attack what they’re saying. Some of you guys don’t listen to what they say, y’all are just waiting to respond with some emotional response. Y’all let basketball reference and a British accent fool y’all but that doesn’t work on people who REALLY know basketball who can talk about it emotionally or logically and most of the time y’all argue emotionally.

10+ years? Bird played 13 seasons.. 3 mvps. CONSECUTIVELY. AS WELL as the MOST ALL AROUND NUMBERS IN NBA HISTORY. TOP 2 but for me the BEST ALL AROUND PLAYER EVER. 10+ seasons? ok. bird scored over 20 points in 11 seasons, 19 points the other 2 seasons. Averaged less than 9 rebounds TWICE in 13 seasons (8.5 and 6). he averaged less than 5.5 assists TWICE in 13 seasons.. averaged less than 1.4 steals twice averaged less than .8 blocks 3x.. what other player will give you 10 years of AT LEAST 20 points/ 9 rebounds/ 5.5 assists 1.4 steals/ .8 blocks, while shooting 50/40/90 TWICE and ALMOST doing it another 2 or 3 times. WHAT OTHER PLAYERS will do ALL THAT for 10 YHEARS??????.,. oh yea 3 rings and 3 mvps back to back to back.. if bird is not in your top 5 you dont know basketball or you are racist.

Everyone is speaking so highly of jokic not realizing that he is the closest to bird, except with worse defense than bird. People back then couldn't get it about bird just like jokic...how is this dude dominating flat flooted? Keep in mind all stats are inflated now bc of pace, and possessions. When adjusted Bird today us 28ppg 12rpg 9apg, 2spg 1.8 bpg at 49%

Lol kareem, magic, kobe, shaq all shared thise championship low logic thqt bird because he did think bird MVP is not significant whereas he names players on his top 10 MJ, kareem, hakeem, magic are all on birds era cmon how stupid that is.

Jokic didn’t win the MVP because people didn’t think the Nuggets and Jokic were going to have playoff succes. 3 time MVP out in round 2 again would be crazy. At least Bird had substantial playoff success when he won his third MVP. Jokic wasn’t head and shoulders the best player over the last three years to win it three times with NO playoff success. Precedent has always been give it to the one the hasn’t won one when it’s close. Barkley, David Robinson, Malone, KG, Dirk, 08 Kobe wasn’t his best year.

Larry Bird is top 10. You can argue 10th but he’s not out of the Top 10 sorry. Bird and Magic saved basketball.

Disagree on bill Russell. Bird is very underrated on defense in the context we're using. 15ppg on 41% or 44% isnt getting it in any era

Can they stop stating larry not top 10 like its a "fact" when its clearly opinion yall sound like elementary school teacher's teaching kids ab dinosaurs larry actually has a bag and doesnt need to depend on athleticism and dribbling to score🤦🏿‍♂️

damn that word guy was atrocious…..also why do we people assume that when we say “make Giannis play off ball more” we are saying completely take him off ball? Like he can still play the way he plays just have him play off ball more often. It’ll make him a lot more effective and it’ll make his usual game easier Edit: kenn was atrocious too wtf

Bill Russell over Bird is wild

Chill, ik you said you don’t hate him, but saying you never felt life Kobe was undeniably the best in the league, that’s not disrespectful? cmon man, that is INSANE. like this is all subjective but there’s a point where an opinion is wrong

Besides Chill hating on Kobe he be cooking.

Bird played for the title every year. Way better than Kobe

How would anyone take steph over Bird?

i have mj as the goat, but facts are facts, even old larry bird owned jordan

How is kg suppose to score more with more talent around him? Lowe . SHUUUUUUUUT UP.

Accolades are only diminished by people who don’t have any accolades. Sports talk is getting strange

It means your play wasn't as valuable as someone that pushed their team to the top spot. I'm more interested in what you prioritize when making your list, because in all honesty your list is garbage.

There's no longevity award. I can make a case for Stockton with this criteria.

marz's mood just flipped when he found out chill wasnt here to yell at low about larry bird

I don’t believe that Larry Bird is top 5, nor is he better than LeBron. There are a lot of Bird glazers that take it too far. But not top 10?

2:23:00 @tickettv this yo man’s? Talking about Kobe like this ?

Peak R9 over peak Messi LMAOOO

Bird was the shit. He was a good defender, great shooter, great rebounder, great passer, great scorer, great free throw shooter, great 3 Pt shooter, great in the clutch, great efficiency in overall play, and great impact on the game. overall.

Kobe was the best from 2008-2010. Adressing the questionable years, 2001-2002 is shaq, 2003-2005 is duncan, 2006 is wade, 2007 is lebron, 2011 is dirk

Bruh was saying KD got jumped like he was jiraiya in 2022

I really almost guessed LOW’s top 10 😅 I thought he had Duncan > Kareem

Thank you LOW, ppl thinking he’d be like Luka in todays league like wtf then they ask me if I seen him play, mf u not 53 u never see a full game of Larry bird before either, they watching highlights and think that’s how he played all the time, he was making uncontested jumpers

Kevin Durant was better than Steph then and all time. He can produce just as many point for his team. Bro averaged more assist than Steph in the finals but Steph was gettin double team ???but Steph is the greatest point guard 😑 KD can rebound and block shots as a wing player... plus he’s more clutch. That’s why he better than curry and the real reason is in 2018 KD tried his hardest to give Steph the finals MVP and he still outperformed curry. … on accident.

Do know what you are talking about. Curry better bring the ball up than Bird. Curry is a guard Bird is a forward. His role was not to bring the ball up. I am glad you brought up the 86 Celtics. Then DJ. You think Curry would be doing is thing against them . 😊

I like when Marz gets to talk to Chill when they off the panel

younger people shouldnt be able to comment, i see all the young bucks on the panel putting guys in top 20 who is no way shape or form belong in there, and they do this because they didnt live thru guys in the 80's

Jordan 88-91 is inarguably his best statistical dominance and I've seen that viewed as his prime. Just goes to show one man can't win it all, a lot of primes took place outside the years of that players postseason success

Mvp level is a disingenuous argument how can you be mvp level if you didn’t win mvp ? How can you play a championship level and not win the ring ?

The entire show was shiting on accolades then Marz defended Jordan not passing Reem of STRICTLY accolades

This headline had me like wtf and than thought damn Larry might not be in my top 10 but he a goat! People can say a player has great teammates but the greats know how to elevate their team. Talent alone will not do it 💯🙏🏾

For me: MJ Bron Kareem Tim Kobe Hakeem Steph Shaq Magic Russell

I'd take Oscar over Steph. No mention of Oscar Robertson in any of these things.

So Karl Malone is the goat or LeBron gets it by attrition? Your talking nonsense.

the title of this vid is laughable, bird is top 3 and one can argue he is the goat

Damn im mad I missed the stream, I would’ve pushed my KD top 10 agenda. Low lowkey got the same top 10 as me except for one player

He was 2nd 4 other times. How about you ask the players you have ahead of him what they think?

55:09 because a role playing defender is more more common than a role playing scorer and most of those players are inconsistent which is why their role players to begin with

1:33:56 it’s sick how y’all pick at crumbs to devalue Kobe man 😂😂 these dudes say anything

kenn acting like a wannabe ticket is botched

Bro, you have zero credit as a hoop analyst.

Low literally just pulls up Basketball Reference and makes claims surrounded by the numbers he’s looking at.

Its wild that kg doesnt get called out for not making it out the 1st round..legit had to join two all nba players and a weaker conference to win

Marz top 3 level there is a 1 a 2 and a 3

Larry birds peak is not better than Kobe’s. Still love your content tho, Low!

Get off my Unc case man! maybe he do got a bias against Kobe just like everybody else that talk sports has a bias for or against someone

Word is HORRIBLE GET HIM OUTTA HERE

How about winning %?

Durability absolutely matters especially in the playoffs. It's what made Isiah Thomas (Detroit Pistons) so special.

Ask the coaches.

Amazing episode

Does he know?

One thing ppl try to hold against KD is because Ty Lue said his game plan was to double Steph but he did that bc KD is a 7 foot shooter that was going to get his buckets no matter what. In 2018 finals… KD was the better all around player. Averaged more assists THAN CURRY, more points off less shot attempts, and was clearly the better defender. Why do we try to limits KD’s playing to scoring?

You can make the case of Kobe winning more than 1 MVP in 03 & 06 based on the historic scoring season he had. Also you can make the case for Kobe being the MVP in 2010 where Kobe made 5 GW shots & those GW shots made a difference wit the Lakers being the #1 or being the 8th seed or out of the playoffs based on how competitive the West was back then. So the GWs Kobe made in that 2010 season meant a lot if your trying to make a case for Kobe being the MVP that year

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I agree that Jordan peaked in the 80s. His performance proves it. MJ won a MVP in 88. His team sucked but you don’t put up those kind of numbers outside of your peak. If he was winning more games no one would question his peak. Basketball is a team sport. The roster sucked but MJ was HIM in 88.

Did Low say that kg is better than Kobe ? I’m not sure if I heard right

Scoring titles aren't accolades to me. Most accolades are voted on. No one votes on how many points u get to score

Thanks Low for telling the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth about Larry Bird because most people are afraid to say anything negative about him.

Saying KG>KD is an underrated wild take lol

Low top 10 is jsut as credible as chi11s. LOW why isn’t Kobe top 3??? “Becuz he did so much to stop his team from winning “ the dumbest take ever. Like Tim Duncan purposely sitting out didn’t hurt his team or hurt the league. How many freethrows were missed at the end of games??? Didn’t Timmy miss a open lay up to win a championship??? Yeah but Kobe stopped his team from winning. Kobe the man wit the most championships this millennium?! Okay. No need to mention lebron and his many bad series before Miami. Hakeem over shaq makes no sense either. But that’s another comment. It’s low favorite TOP 10. Not a credible one

“When bird wasnt scoring I still found Immense value in Larry birds off ball movement” immense value ??? y’all love overrating everything besides scoring. what is Larry bird doing off ball and how is that giving his team IMMENSE VALUE. Which mean HUGE VALUE?? What is he doing that no other forward doesn’t do off ball. Who directly did he help? Y’all do the same with Steph. How exactly does they off ball play lead to others scoring? And how are you watching a basketball game and watching off the ball. ?? I’m so confused