Why Lindsey Shaw's Family Refused to Watch Pretty Little Liars

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Devon, Lindsey & Daniel chat about how playing queer characters opened up their ideas of sexuality, and how their families reacted to that.
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@officialpodco Год назад

What did you think of this?

@H2GKM0 Год назад

I think Devon should get his friend who played the gay football player in that unnamed movie (which I suspect is one from the early 2010s that had been adapted from a book…) on the pod 😎

@ashhiz4350 Год назад

@ash Johnny Simmons in Perks of Being a Wallflower. Calling it right now lol

@iatinom22 Год назад

In PLL, many hated Paige (played by Lindsay), but I don't know if many realized that at the end of the show, Paige was THE ONLY ONE WHO GROWN UP? All the others remained the same as at the beginning. The same nonsense, lies, immaturity. Paige was the only one who changed over the years and ended up being a more adult and focused person. That's why for me she was the best character in the series. Lindsay is a very good actress (and very funny too). We should be able to see her more often and in bigger series/movies.

@Yana-qq7yc Год назад

I always liked Paige or at least I didn't hate her with a passion like others

@theoutsiderjess4869 Год назад

I didn't even recognize that she was lindsay when I was younger 😂

@iatinom22 Год назад

@@Yana-qq7yc She wasn't very likable at the beginning, but she evolved and, for me, ended up being the best character. The only one that showed growth and maturity.

@iatinom22 Год назад

@@theoutsiderjess4869 Those things usually happen. It has happened to me with many actors 🤣

@raquewalker7751 Год назад

We also need to mention that while the show was on air, a lot of fans of other ships attacked her in social media, people who doesn't difference between the character and actress. People who hated Paige make fell bad Lindsay but she was only making her work and was really hard for her and she didn't had the fault.

@williamleewolverine 11 месяцев назад

That’s horrible

@heyyitsjude Год назад

Not the family pulling up to the comments to defend themselves 🫣

@blade8989 Год назад

Wait maybe I’m being gullible but are they actually? Lol

@donrightgaming1455 Год назад

Lmao where

@heyyitsjude Год назад

Yes peep Heidi Shaw if you scroll to the bottom of comments! I think her auntie lmao. Which like I interpreted her as talking about her parents being homophobic not the ext family but who knows 💀

@FadzaiSimango Год назад

Read the replies. It's an imposter. Fake account

@tiffanyguerrero7713 Год назад

Who cares it’s their right to watch or not

@kittenquinnn.5713 Год назад

The way Devon has so much compassion for Lindsey in his eyes no matter what they’re talking about 🥺

@IAMGREATN3SS27 Год назад

They use to date ahaha

@Staticshock-rd8lv 11 месяцев назад

He still loves her but its not reciprocated, she's dated way hotter taller guys than him she can never go back.

@Hayley-kp6wt 11 месяцев назад

@@Staticshock-rd8lv I highly doubt she cares about height😂 wtf

@Staticshock-rd8lv 11 месяцев назад

@@Hayley-kp6wtlook at all her exes after ned than @me again

@Hayley-kp6wt 11 месяцев назад

@@Staticshock-rd8lv no one projects unjustified insecurity like a short man🙄

@cameronnking Год назад

The bidet commentary is a conversation I’ve had SOOO MANY times IRL lmfao Lindsey spitttinnnnn

@offbeatkiki Год назад

Y'all really need to put the podcast channels in your channels tab to redirect people better

@officialpodco Год назад

Great suggestion - done! ✔

@theamazingdoubleA Год назад

I LOVE Lindsey sooooo much. She’s just a gem. The voice, the face, the talent. So beautiful love her DOWN! ❤❤❤

@Andyyoureastar Год назад

Family not wanting to support my character’s sexuality + a costar’s uncomfortable comments (especially the person IN the relationship + who is idolized by many) alone would definitely affect my psyche/identity as an adolescent. I appreciate Lindsey being brave to share these experiences that are unfortunately relatable to many. Devon and Daniel remind us that there are people out there who get it and to keep searching for friends/family like them bc they are out there! You are never stuck and there are always good moments waiting for you and worth sticking around for.

@Noname-si6jr Год назад

So glad to see this podcast! I am old enough to be these guys pmom but I used to watch this show BY MYSELF! Ned De classified is still one of my fav kid shows.

@closeben Год назад

That conversation went to some interesting places…

@WolfMoon173 Год назад

How Lindsay jus spun a pooping/bidet comment into a metaphor for acceptance. Genius.

@Andyyoureastar Год назад

Wow I can imagine that would be heavy for Lindsey to carry around. I hope she continues to heal from those experiences (+ ones not mentioned). I love that they validate and support her like true friends do. Because she is a valid and worthy person despite those repeated intolerant messages (which tells me more about the people who perpetuated them, not her) love you guys and these stories that help others feel less alone ♥️♥️♥️

@jamiebruner8463 Год назад

I'm upset I saw PLL with my ex and didn't recognize Lindsey.

@AliceP. Год назад

Don't know if I got that right, but so Shay would finish a day on set and be like "now I'll go do some girly stuff _to remind myself that i'm a girl_ ? Geez. That IS a little bit messed up, specially considering that... As I understand... She came out as bi? Anyways...

@Andyyoureastar Год назад

Yes as an adult it seems clearer to me that that comment solely has to do with Shay’s thoughts about herself/her identity. As an adolescent though I would have had a harder time not internalizing that message if I were questioning my own identity. Especially if I looked up to/ was a fan of Shay. And to be clear, this may explain shay’s behavior but it does not excuse the effect it had on Lindsey/possibly others on set.

@YenellyT Год назад

wait she really said that? can you elaborate more i'm so curious

@AliceP. Год назад

@@YenellyT That was something Lindsay said in this video. I don't remember the minute tho :/

@ambriaashley3383 Год назад

@@YenellyT around 6:35 😬 def seems like some internalized homophobia if she later came out …

@brittany5891 Год назад

Yeah I was kinda confused why she said that out loud. I didn't know if that was intended to be a shot towards Linds or an insecurity/reminder to herself and she just wanted to tell someone.

@CelebrityHeart Год назад

Devon: This is turning into a different podcast

@sarahwashington1461 Год назад

Lmao this was hilarious at the end! I loved it❤️

@e-lee-sah Год назад

I completely agree about everything being a spectrum. Its all fluid and ever changing. I love that you guys are talking about this!

@BlaxxShadow Год назад

Daniel and Devon's reaction made 8:15 even funnier 🤣🤣🤣.

@lucasouza889 Год назад

i'm pretty sure the friend devon was referring to is johnny simmons in perks of being a wallflower

@lviravargas Год назад

Literally thought the same thing when he said gay football player in a high school movie

@rachelcarper9297 Год назад

Thank you I came to the comments to see who he was talking about lol

@CA-im4fb Год назад

weird cuz i just finished PLL again lollll, Love seeing lindsey crush any role she plays!

@haileycollins6147 Год назад

Sooo cathartic to hear you guys say all this lmaaoooo my parasocial relationship is strengthening

@uramirez28 Год назад

Cookie for Celebrity Drag Race!

@jcnot9712 Год назад

RuPaul better stop playing and make this happen 😤

@Grownbyjay Год назад

we need it! 🤣

@juliop890 Год назад

Dang! Never knew Lindsey felt that way and the fans giving her crap for being Paige must of been hard.

@superalejcc Год назад

I loved this one so much, lol.

@kieonsamuel3430 Год назад

I loved Lindsay's character in PLL. I was a huge Paily shipper when the show was on!

@kieonsamuel3430 Год назад

Paige deserved better in that last season!!!

@simply_geri Год назад

where can i watch the full podcast? 🥺

@officialpodco Год назад

ru-vid.com/group/PLyz_QpwdMPQsVQmxapQEjLhCT0jVsGWNy

@ClairesUniverse Год назад

I hated Paige, but I love Lindsey!!! That's how you know you played a part well. I might have also just been a huge Emily/Maya shipper, lol. And, Moze will always rule!!

@mirandataylor6385 Год назад

But why though? PLL had the most toxic fanbase. I get PTSD thinking about those Tumblr days 😂

@ashleydavid8997 10 месяцев назад

@@mirandataylor6385I tried getting my bf to watch it with me (his first time and my first time as an adult) and from the very beginning episode he was looking at me like whattttt is this grooming/psycho stuff is this

@alaina2288 Год назад

Seriously hated that shay said that lmao

@khaosreads1785 Год назад

For real what the heck

@diyah4580 Год назад

I could not stand Paige! She wouldn't Go Away lol, but I never had any bad feelings towards the actress. I've seen her in other things and liked her, so I'm pretty sure it had everything to do with the way her character was written.

@fortheladies771 Год назад

Are you talking about Lucas from HSM? He’s the first person that came to mind lol

@shelbywiepking9541 Год назад

The only reason Paige irked me on PLL was her hairstyle. Didn’t suit Lindsey’s face shape

@theoutsiderjess4869 Год назад

That's probably why I didn't recognize her when the show aired

@lauramorea7122 Год назад

I never make comments in videos, but like the bidet is a consistent theme, i have to say that i'm from Argentina and in general, in every house we have bidet. Is not an accesory of the toilet, is an actually other toilet next to the wc. Look it up! I dont know how you live without one! In the other hand, im so sorry lindsay has to live all of that, i (untill this podcast) assume you were lesbian and that should be the top of how good you act! And in fact, all the story of paige/emily/maya help me discover that im bi. So, thank you very much for all! And sorry for my english! Hope you can read it!

@SunnieBal Год назад

a lot of the subtitles in spanish are not translated in the right context and it can confuse people, you should revise that

@propogandalf 10 месяцев назад

Wonder who translated it

@dustin4621 Год назад

I remember Allison would call her character pig skin

@rebeccastefani190 Год назад

No she didn’t lol

@watchingknowing Год назад

Pig skin

@dustin4621 Год назад

@Thomas Hewitt oh I was pretty close lol

@dustin4621 Год назад

@Thomas Hewitt I actually forgot that happened! Is it decent?

@blinkmoomoo Год назад

I remember hating Paige because it was a bad written character, I'm sorry that Lindsey had to go through that bad time with PLL fans. I also remember going on twitter and seeing hate coments on Paige not Lindsey. We all do mistakes and we all grow up from it. I'm not justifying it but we all do mistakes in a way or another. PS Lindsey you are so sweet

@mirandataylor6385 Год назад

Let’s be real, PLL fans were toxic AF and always shipped the most toxic characters. It made it impossible for any real character development to happen across the board. The fans had way too much control of the show and the writing suffered.

@azarinevil Год назад

@@mirandataylor6385 It has nothing to do with the fans, the head writer is well known for writing really bad stuff. Most of their shows haven't lasted more than a season. They also wrote Just my Luck, which is the movie about how spoiled Lindsey Lohan trades luck with Chris Pine, and is ultimately about a nepotism baby giving her privilege to a normal guy against her will, then having her change her mind because Chris Pine is hot and she wouldn't be able to get with him if she didn't give him her "luck".. which ends up being a rather obvious rich white girl using her privilege to rescue the poor love interest. 🤮

@NationalSportsEntertainmentNSE Год назад

I haven’t read this yet but as a viewer I much preferred her portrayal as Mose vs Paige

@indigotears 8 месяцев назад

Lindsey went through so much while working on PLL but I'd have never guessed she was struggling with playing a lesbian and that's a testament to how kind and compassionate she was to gay fans, I feel so bad for everything she had to deal with, her homophobic family, those remarks by Shay, the toxic fans. I know she's aware but I have to say it, she changed and saved lives, her portrayal of Paige meant the world to a lot of us and I will always be grateful for her ❤️

@whodat4lyfekris Год назад

Why can't we just let people live...??? If it isn't your issue, why concern yourself with it?

@luisvalero1213 Год назад

My philosophy is: as long as it doesn't involves kids, animals or me, I don't care what people do with their intimacy

@whodat4lyfekris Год назад

@@luisvalero1213 Right...😐

@infinite-sadness Год назад

because a book told them it's inherently wrong because the culture around them growing up and in the present day is very homophobic Or because they think it's icky and they never really grew up and learned basic empathy. Could be all 3 tbh

@new0news Год назад

@INFINITE SADNESS honestly I'm pretty sure these singular bigoted issues are being heavily influenced by domestic and international shills. Chinese government has already shown they use tactics like this to influence elections and destabilize the west but everyone thinks it's just normal that social media had so many accounts dedicated to one small issue that impacts almost no one. I have suspicions on how 🤔 legit they are

@georgiosntanis4353 Год назад

@@luisvalero1213 but gay people are also kids.

@michaelpeak2438 Год назад

Off topic, Lindsey is just beautiful to me man.

@Liagreat97 Год назад

Sadly unpopular opinion : I was always Team Paige and didn’t like Allison 😂😅

@yaya1012 Год назад

Cookie make THE BEST girl!!! “Seeeee ya!!”

@starklord25 Год назад

Devon! I want your flannel!!

@REVontobel Год назад

What’s the movie Lindsay talked about having gay switch with straight people? It sounds very interesting

@Abc20249 4 месяца назад

Don't remember the name but Tyler Blackburn had the male lead in it if it helps to look.

@watchingknowing Год назад

Btw i was team Paige in PLL... i liked Emily and Paige

@hopeful4243 Год назад

I didn't know Destiny was in Ned's Decasslified school survival guide. Cool. Also nice that he got his natural hair color back, always thought he was gonna keep the blue hair for a long time.

@michellemorales4202 Год назад

Paige deserved better, soooo much better

@anthonyL1995 Год назад

I mean every single couple on PLL’s was trash on the show. The hilarious thing is that the couples at the end of the book series (not the ones from the audio only sequel) were great. Ezria was trash and creepy. Aly and Emily were horrible for each other (and book Emily is so much worse for her love of Aly even though she really loved Courtney but could never grasp that it was Courtney she loved). Hannah and Caleb were too different. People might dislike Paige for being mean to Emily at first but you’d be shocked at how many closeted people are mean to their crushes at first.

@narunatsu1 Год назад

Yeah but paige literally try to drown emily.... there's a line between being mean and a psycho 😅

@dannyheavymetal1149 Год назад

I remember watching pretty Little Liars with my mom and her commenting that this pretty girl of nickelodeon end up in that roll (she said that in a judgmental way) and I was there thinking guess who's bisexual 😅

@margarcia4841 Год назад

Wow this is so revolutionary

@CoKroop Год назад

Paige deserved better and I loved her so much. But she got to grow up, move on, and get better.

@babysmokie7179 Год назад

GIRL CLEAN THAT THING 💀💀💀😭😭😭😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@BluEx22329 Год назад

Yeah

@terrizseleczky9794 11 месяцев назад

I don’t know - I just see so much pain in Lindsey.

@Meanie74 Год назад

Not to “ship” real humans and I love Devin and Lindsay’s friendship but when they connected on not feeling poop shame? … I felt a spark….😅

@tannerreopelle2535 Год назад

bro i used to get made fun of for being in love with lindsey but now its even more cemented, i was always attracted to her "realness" because i thought she just got it, adn now seeing that she does its wild, little me is happy and older me is thinking i need to be put down for how down bad i am

@miranda13c Год назад

I was a huge fan of the show and your character and I thought it was awful the way that so many fans kept complaining online over your character. It always came from the more over the top fans of Emily and Alison. I’m so sorry you had to go through that.

@jax422 Год назад

4:20 I think now you have to announce your not gay more than ever because you get accused of queerbaiting.

@theoutsiderjess4869 Год назад

The only thing I heard get queerbaiting is the tv show not the actors themselves

@gustavoguimaraes5155 Год назад

I love Paige 💙.

@blackbirds1630 Год назад

We all did.

@MissesVeryGabby Год назад

Oh I LOVE Lindsey! Anything she is in but yeah. Just didn’t really like Paige on PLL and I am currently rewatching it. Just started season 5 and even the 2nd time around still just not a fan

@roselolagne6642 Год назад

Sugaring is waxing lol

@denisheabates2755 Год назад

I loved Lindsey but I felt a little different about Paige I didn't hate her it was just her whole fake persona and the whole wishy washy attitude towards Emily I didn't like it

@MrGoku-tp5lt Год назад

Si miran el video también denle me gusta 👍

@BleedingxRainbow 2 месяца назад

Pretty sure sugaring has been around for like 1000 years 😅

@shelbyzirkle8787 Год назад

She seems super high

@charlieclark9552 Год назад

I like that about her

@HeidiShaw-zj1do Год назад

The only reason I refused to watch my dear niece on PLL was because the show was so dumb. It was cringe worthy and I couldn't get through more than 10 minutes of it. I loved watching her on literally everything else she did. 🙂

@BlackKeys2010 Год назад

Well, even if you had an issue with it, it’s okay to have a different opinion.

@mo777- Год назад

i don’t think this is her aunt but anyway the show had a VERY good storyline, plot and cast. they just got lazy with it at the end. there’s no show like it.

@BlackKeys2010 Год назад

@@mo777- she looks a lot like her lol

@cartoonhanks1708 Год назад

Yeah it's a fake account it was made literally yesterday, march 11th. Didn't know people did this. What do they get out of this?

@mo777- Год назад

@@BlackKeys2010 she took a picture from her social media. their account was only made hours ago

@DownWordGames Год назад

You guys need Jesus. You have fallen in love with sin so much "It's not even a thought." The Bible said that God will give you up to a depraved mind if you go too far from him.

@TheRealMsGalaxy Месяц назад

Go away. Do not bring religion into this. It's so irritating that no matter where you go, someone has to bring religion into a conversation. Let LGBTQ+ people, TV, items, etc.. live the way straight people live. Leave us out of your religious shit.

@TheRealMsGalaxy Месяц назад

You don't see gay people bringing religion into every straight item that's posted. Seriously, go away.

@randomgeekcrap Месяц назад

And you need real life not bigoted fection religion

@DownWordGames Год назад

Every black comedian is in a dress. It's like some sick ritual they do to the talent.

@propogandalf 10 месяцев назад

You need to focus on real problems. People wearing whatever clothes they want, whether it be for fun or work, isn't one.

@DownWordGames 10 месяцев назад

@@propogandalf Little dick energy over here got offended. What color is your dress?

@TheRealMsGalaxy Месяц назад

Cry about it.

@DownWordGames Месяц назад

@@TheRealMsGalaxy Hows your daddy issues?

@randomgeekcrap Месяц назад

@@DownWordGamesyou'r the one crying Over dresses 😂 you even to bring ur little god and don't project ur daddy issues on people please get help

@Romaluii 11 месяцев назад

Sex is not on a spectrum (imo) that’s hard to believe. All these new gender classifications are all based from the same two old genders… male and female. It seems binary to me. No hate, that’s just something that I keep noticing. A lot of the semantics around this new inclusive vocabulary are oxymoronic.