In this video I address the question: why Lutheran? What do Lutherans believe? Read our Confessions at www.BookofConcord.org. Support Just and Sinner through Patreon: / justandsinner
@@s1mplysamuel966 please read tertulian in 220 who says in his commentary on Leviticus 26 1 consecration of images is idolatry. Now if Christianity was a community faith where did he gets this idea? Glory to Jesus Christ !!
I heard a great explanation of "why Lutheran" a few years ago while talking to a pastor we were interviewing to be our pastor and the question came up....why Lutheran?....his answer was, "because we are the only religion in the world that does not have an "if". Stop and think about that for a minute...we don't have anything we have to do to be saved. No works, no alter calls, no giving ourselves over, we just have to have belief, and be baptized, that's it. Our sins have been washed away by the blood of Christ, He came to earth, died for us, was raised from the grave. That's it, that's all we need. Ask for forgiveness, and you will be forgiven.
"...because we are the only religion in the world that does not have an "if" ... we just have to have belief, and be baptized". That sounds a whole lot like there is an "if". How about "we just have to have belief" full stop? A lot of denominations do NOT see water baptism as salvific. Just faith. Lutherans - at least the hardcore Lutherans - tell parents that they must take their infants to infant baptism because that's the way the infant is saved. When pressed on the scriptural problems they give all kinds of ifs and buts and of course the good old "remember; it's God's work - not ours. It's a gift!". But parents still have to do it, they say. And when parents do it, the infant gets new life, they say. Non-Lutheran bible believers on the other hand go with the clear message of scripture: That whosoever believe in Him shall not perish, but have everlasting life (regardsless of any kind of so-called "sacraments" like infant baptism). When you read Luther and prominent Lutherans you realize that Luther wasn't very consistently "sola fide" and "sola scriptura" in his views. He still had a lot of tradition and sacramentalism in his thinking, and today it's right there in Lutheranism. It's just being toned down with nice rhetoric like "we are the only religion in the world that does not have an "if"".
Thanks for explaining, amazing video. Been attending the Lutheran Church here in Womelsdorf, Pa since Jan 2019, and am becoming a member next Sunday 11/24, Looking forward to it!! Blessings, and peace to you!!
Sadly the churches that you have mentioned are part of this world, involving themselves in the political and military establishments of this world. Whereas Jesus said that his followers are no part of this world. They are neutral.
Thank you brother Jordan for this excellent video! A concise and accurate presentation of the basic essentials of Evangelical Confessional Lutheranism. Also am glad to know that you are within the uncomprimising framework of the AALC, which unites a pure credenda with a pure agenda. Keep up the great work my brother. (Philippians 1:6).
I appreciate how well you explained the sacraments, that they’re a gift from God to us. I was raised Lutheran and it provided me more guidance in my life that I can ever explain. I am happy I found your channel as I’ve been trying to decide on a church to attend and you’ve convinced me to return to my roots. Thank you for your videos- I appreciate that your commentary is Biblically based- it’s so easy to get caught up in societal trends or even academia trends - I find your videos incredibly helpful!
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that was way good, was baptized lutheran in W. Berlin. E. Germany back in March of 65 as an infant, and for the most part maintained my faith off and on until now. thank you so much for making this video and bringing me back home ❤
I was raised catholic and now that I'm experiencing a Lutheran church I understand a lot of what you're saying. Also, the creed is very similar. Thanks
I too was raised Catholic, but my father was Lutheran (Augustiana Synod). While I consider myself agnostic (too long a story to go into here) I am currently attending the same ELCA church he did when we first moved to Kalamazoo. I feel this is a way of getting in touch with my heritage and honoring my father. He once confided to me that he regretted signing the agreement that the Catholic Church required him to sign when he married my mother that all of us children would be raised Catholic and that he would not interfere with that. That was about the only time he ever discussed his faith with me. I find a lot of similarities between the two faiths. However, I had to laugh a couple of Sundays ago when they honored St. Teresa of Avila during the intercessory prayer as a "reformer". That she was indeed, but her idea of reform and Luther's were two different things! Both of them must be rolling in their graves. In fact, I jokingly asked the organist (a long-time friend), "Are you sure this is a Lutheran church? Because it sure feels Catholic to me!"
Thank you for your videos. I enjoy learning about your tradition. When you said the sacraments are salvatory my 1689 Baptist heart cringed, but nonetheless I will be a Berean and search the scriptures to see if these things are so. Be blessed!
I wonder why Lutheran Scholar Yaroslav Pelican converted to Eastern Orthodoxy. It seems there are a lot of issues within modern Lutheranism leaning towards liberalism maybe? Can you comment on that?
I am a life-long LCMS Lutheran. I love our Bible-based theology, our beautiful hymns, our loving Church family, our great sermons, and everything else about our Faith. 😊
Lutherans need to do a better job at evangelizing because it's in decline in America, and countries that were originally very Lutheran like Germany, Scandinavia, Estonia, and Latvia.
That's a good point, but likely Christianity is declining in their countries BECAUSE they are mainly Lutheran countries. First comes very liberal viewpoints, then the church adopts them, then society spirals downward. We are seeing this here in the US with the ELCA church. When you conform your religion to society, this is what happens. "Humans must be changed by religion, not religion to humans" Giles of Viterbo, 5th Lateran Council 1512
@@bpowell7999 I just posted why I left the Lutheran Church ELCA. You hit the nail on the head When you conform your religion to society, this is what happens. Living in California that is definitely happening! Signing the Agreement with the catholic church to demonize Luther is not helping! POPE Francis a Globalist and first Jesuit Pope want one Religion and is making every effort to do so with Evangelicals. I will never become a Roman Catholic! Many people are leaving the church and that is a sad fact!
Not sure I think everyone should be Lutheran...this would dilute our heritage and traditions and before you know it it's not Lutheran anymore-I feel comfort in our tight knit family...
Actually, the term “Roman Catholic” is an oxymoron. Describing the Church as Catholic originally meant the the Church was universal in that those who belong to Christ are to be found in every race, tribe, and culture.
@@ljss6805 no they didn’t. Many had different lists of scriptures into the 5th century. Athanasius and Pope Damasus had a great relationship together to come up with the 27 New Testament list.
@@ljss6805 the list was not universally accepted. For example the Armenian Church had different scriptural lists into the 5th century.. And the eastern and roman churches were together in communion. Shown in the 381 Council of Constantinople accepted by eastern and roman churches today that marked the 4 creeds of the church "one, holy, catholic and apostolic church"
@@JJ-cw3nf Christians in different jurisdictions already had different canons before 356 and didn't need any council to ratify them. I was responding to a comment no longer there that claims the canon was basically a Catholic thing and we can thank Jerome for it. I was just saying that's not quite true.
Can you do one explaining the difference between the elca vs missouri synod? I'd also like to learn more about the ever growing Megachurch here in the midwest called the Lutheran Church of Hope. Evidently they are part of the elca.
Lutheran is great !!! They are focused on the living life in forgivness of sins, and its better life , and Lutherans makes that the forgivnes of sins more real and more easy to recieva and unterstand!!! Its one of the bigest things ever when your sins are forgiven you become new creature new being in Jesus ! So the life is getting really excited and happy and all is going in good way!!! God bless all the Lutherans ,big thank you for your mercy oh my Lord !!!
As a Catholic, I love to learn more and more about others christians expressions. This is great, thanks for the video. There any many Catholics and other christians expressions that do not the theology of each other. The best way to fight ignorance, its to listen and learn. Amazing video. keep it up.
When I was a child, my mother and other Catholic adults warned me that I would "burn in Hell" if I learned more about other faiths. I had two good friends that were Lutheran and my best friend was Jewish. 😮
Despite all of it's problems I think that Roman Catholicism is an easier system to defend than Lutheranism. The Catholics can just appeal to the authority of The Magisterium of the Roman Catholic Church and Holy Tradition whenever their doctrines don't make a whole lot of sense. The Lutherans cannot do that. So they have to use clever rhetoric to defend e.g. their ideas of baptismal regeneration through infant baptism. So if I was a Lutheran I would be very tempted to just accept the full package of Roman Catholicism instead of trying to defend the light version of Lutheranism.
I'd be interested to know more about the difference between the Lutheran tradition and the Anglican tradition. They seem to have many similarities, especially the "evangelical, yet catholic" thing.
I´m pentecostal (methodist) from Chile, but I really love the Lutheran church, and I appreciate the tradition, I believe we are 1 church, and continuing from the apostles to today, I don´t like the "philosophy that some evangelicals and most pentecostal have that all "catholic things" are bad things", I think they focus too much on not being like roman catholic even when that means changing our traditions to "new ones". I love ancient music, liturgy, robes, even episcopacy. Sadly in my city, there isn´t any Lutheran church, and the 2 Lutheran denominations in chile are very "contemporary style" so I prefer to be at my current church where at least we maintain many traditions from Methodist, like having bishops, annual conferences (assemblies), singing hymns, not signing much contemporary music, women, and men dressing formal, etc. and even when are pentecostal are not charismatic, It´s Classical pentecostal, I could say it´s an episcopal methodist church that accepts the gifts of the Spirit, but maintain much doctrine and order in the services and administration. God bless my Lutheran siblings, and of course my all of my other evangelical siblings (in Chile we say "evangelicos" to all Protestantism). God bless the church :)
Im a born muslim... Islam is my faith... I dont agree with somethings but Its a beautiful way of life, and i respect you brother your a man of God may the lord have mercy upon us all And guide us all to all that is Holy and righteous.
J Wallander Good question! We are not Calvinists or Arminians. I have a video on the subject here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-r9U6fccu1vM.html
Where i lived in the Los Angeles area wirhin 2.5 miles there were 14 churches, 1 Synagogue, 1 Buddist temple and 1 Mormon tabernacle. Ive often wondered when diversity becomes division.
Hey I love the video! I have a question that I was wondering if you could answer. I'm a Lutheran who is having some doubts about my faith after my parents have become members of the Roman Catholic Traditional Church. I wondered if you have a video I could use to research for why we can trust the Lutheran Church over the so-called "Infallibility" of the Catholic Pope and Councils. Basically, how does Tradition support Lutherans and why do we not have to be a part of the Catholic Faith as they claim all Christians must be. Thank you from a fellow Lutheran in the Faith! Peace be with you
So when people consider being 'Lutheran' , an important distinction must be drawn between Confessional (Book of Concord) Lutheranism vs. watered down, revisioned Lutheranism which implicitly or explicitly rejects the confessional tradition (compromising with contemporary evangelical Protestant theology , plus a low view of the Church and a low view of worship , with happy-clappy liturgy instead of traditional Divine Liturgy) or even worse , a modernist Lutheranism that has fallen into rank unbelief. I'm curious about how many confessional Lutherans there are in the U.S.A. ? I'm guessing it's a very small community. *Pastor Cooper, if someone was to go looking for the kind of Lutheranism you are teaching , where do they find it ?* Of the self-consciously Confessional Lutherans I know there are the AALC , LCMS, WELS . Are there others ? As both modernist and "evangelical" churches implode , do you think people who are looking for a robust Christian faith will discover the Lutheran Church ? (I put "evangelical" in quotes because I mean how the word is commonly used in the American context , not the classical understanding of the _Evangelische Kirche_ as it was used in the original sense in the Lutheran Reformation. Maybe as the now tarnished term "evangelical" is discarded by the emerging/missional/progressive/neo- ____________ churches ,whatever they are calling themselves now , it can be reclaimed in all its' fullness by English-speaking Lutherans? Sadly the word evangelical now seems to be identified with a certain political ideology. )
Very nice, thank you. I was especially struck by the deference expressed to the early church, as seen, for instance, in Lutheran liturgical worship, sacramentality, etc. But then, why settle for just a glimmering, an echo, of early church worship, when you can have it in its integral fullness in the Catholic Eastern Orthodox Church? On what basis are Lutherans so selective in what is retained from the one, holy, apostolic church of the first millennium? Why would they not feel, rather, a necessity to reunite with the only church on earth in absolute, unbroken continuity with the Pentecost fellowship in the upper room?
Orthodox Church sold indulgences just like Catholics: orthochristian.com/7185.html Orthodox Compline prayer to Mary: "On the terrible day of judgment, deliver me from eternal punishment and make me an heir of your Son's glory," weedon.blogspot.com/2009/08/thoughts-on-compline-prayer.html?m=0 During divine liturgy, Orthodox priests sometimes take communion without communing anyone in the congregation: orthodoxcityhermit.com/2016/08/09/often-receive-holy-communion/ I live in Taiwan. There is one English-only Orthodox parish in Taipei, established in 2001. That's it. The only Taiwanese who have taken any interest are English speaking evangelicals. Orthodox are so bad at the Great Commission because you only care about chronological uniformity, and ignore "disciples of all nations." Your church only understands half of the definition of the word catholic.
Thank you for this. I was raised Roman Catholic, but never felt inspired or engaged by the mass. All of my best friends throughout my life have been Lutheran, so I am leaning towards your faith. There are 2 Lutheran churches in the town that I am moving to. One simply calls itself "Lutheran" the other "evangelical" Lutheran. Are you telling me there is no difference?
The Lambs Supper is a great book by Scott Hahn that may help you understand the mass better. As someone who was raised a Lutheran and much later became a Catholic I can say you have a real treasure in the Catholic faith.
Thank you, but it just doesn't work for me. I am currently reading a book called "The Catholic Myth" by sociologist/catholic priest, Andrew M. Greely. The gist of it is how for the past couple of decades, the media, from local news papers to Phil Donohue have been setting forth this false narrative that the Pope and the Vatican are out.of step with the times and parishioners are leaving the church in droves. Greely says the statistics say different and modern Catholics are staying with the Church "Because they like it!"😊
@@benjaminhawthorne1969 there are many great apologists who are converts to the Catholic Faith. Jimmy Akin, Trent Horn (Catholic Answers) Taylor Marshall. I am just suggesting some of these people since you seem to be interested in the truth and the problems in the Catholic Church. Good luck on your faith journey
Thank you dear. I have spent 53 years in the Catholic faith and have a pretty good idea what they have to offer. I was baptized into the Catholic church on July 21, 1969. God bless you!🙂
Lutherans prefer to stay out of the fray. We respect kindness and try to be slow to anger. We are actually quite shocked and saddened by some of the vehement attacks against us written by Catholic and Orthodox fellow Christians. We really don't understand their hatred toward us. We are a gentle and loving people, but we do believe we have the truth on our side. I don't wish to debate, but if you have questions on what we believe, I would be happy to try and answer them for you.
Colossians 2:12 Christ was buried. You were buried with Christ *in water baptism.* God raised Christ from the dead. You BELIEVE God raised Christ from the dead. Therefore, God raised you with Christ *in baptism.* This is ALL *GOD’s powerful work.*
You seem good at quoting sections of the Bible. What is your interpretation of 1 Corinthians 1:12 to 1:13. If you are part of the One Universal Church then why is it that the name of a man Lutheran and the name lutheran church is used?
Can you explain in Matthew 1 the Son of David how he is associated with Jesus. Is it that Joseph was related to Son of David and if so Joseph is not Jesus biological father God is?
A pointless question as Jesus is a mythical figure created by the early church to raise funds by threatening gullible people with hell if they did not pay up in his name. The scheme has worked really well for 2000 years and made the RC church very rich. Protestant churches have made it work for them since the 16th century, again because of ignorance and superstitious beliefs. Praise be.
Idk what church to go to I want to go and confess my sins but I'm not baptized haven't ever considered religion and I'm afraid my sins are to great that they would deny me as a part of their church I live in a small town aswell so I'm afraid of them looking me marking me as something like heretic. I would love for someone educated in the matter to give me some insight
You can confess your sins to God with no one else present and he will forgive you. You do not need man to hear your sins. Asking you shall receive. God's forgiveness is for all.
Sooo question: The term “Lutheran” was originally a derogatory term used against Luther by Johann Maier von Eck in the Leipzig debate of 1519. Obviously Luther didn’t like the term because he didn’t want a church named after him but to keep church unity (initially) and preferred, as you mentioned, the term “Evangelical.” So if Luther himself didn’t like the term, why is this church still called the “Lutheran” church? Why “Lutheran”?
Seth - Do not be mislead, Luther made sure that the church was named for him - he sought fame and riches, raped a nuns, and was a narcissistic, homophobic, entitled, misogynist and an anti- semitic racist - rather like evangelical Trump. Praise be.
Actually in many countries like germany for example the term lutheran is not really used. In my own country it's the same (and we're a lutheran country) It's more a term that is used mainly in english to distinguish us from the many other denominations. But here where almost all christian belongs to the church, the term is rarely ever used.
Word and sacrements are means of grace for god to serve us in faith. If someone believes they have faith. Rather than belief + nothing more like faith + grace.
You decide how you'll word it, but the Lutheran doctrine is clear: An infant who has undergone infant baptism has received faith and new life and is now a born again believer in Christ. So yes, in Lutheranism, sacraments - particularly infant baptism - plays a very important salvific role.
Well, the ELCA doesn't seem to do much of that. However, since I am a member of the ELCA, I can attest that some other Lutheran groups are very judgmental of their Christian brothers and sisters in the ELCA. (Boy, have I been called some names!)
No, salvation by works is the thing Luther railed against. He didn't like the book of James bc it doesn't emphasize grace alone as much as Paul did. I grew up Baptist, but Luther is a hero among Baptists. He was for salvation by grace alone, truth and authority from the Bible alone....and he was anti Roman. Not sure what the official position is concerning baptism. It would run contrary to Luther's teaching for ANYTHING to be required for salvation.....it comes through grace and faith alone.
@@user-mm7gv5hf3o well....read more about Luther. Since I have been both Baptist and Lutheran, it's very abundantly clear why he is so popular with Baptists. Tolkien hated Herbert. But many fans of Lord of the Rings are also fans of Dune. Oh my! Not possible! Herbert and Tolkien were so philosophically different! Well, depends on which part you focus on. Grace only (and salvation by works is an abomination), Priesthood of all believers, sol scriptura, and a strong anti catholic sentiment. Wait, am I describing Baptist or Lutheran theology? Oh yeah, that's both of them! (Although the anticatholic part has become less of a thing, but it is still true theologically)
@@user-mm7gv5hf3o lol "Truths that Baptists reject " is the same thing as "he taught false concepts which Baptists reject" There was SO much error in the church at that time, Luther couldn't possibly correct ALL the nonsense the catholics were teaching in only one lifetime. See, we both can pretend our interpretations are the right ones. OR, we could just say that there are different interpretations, and whatever the Spirit reveals to you is what you should follow. That way we can discuss theology without thinking anyone has THE interpretation. If we think there is ONE interpretation, then we can never have unity. We can only be united if we accept our differences.
@@langreeves6419 (Sorry, I was rushing earlier, so may have mistyped somethings) Luther also countered the anabaptists at the time. Meanwhile, you celebrate the marginal difference between Lutherans and Baptists and call them superfluous because it seems you want to create a brotherhood between Lutherans and Baptists. That is great. But then you fall into the common Protestant pitfall of being desperate to isolate, differentiate and vilify the RC.
Can’t talk for Dr Jordan, but conservative Lutheranism most usually holds to predestination, but not in the Calvinist understanding of predestination. Not sure all of the ins and outs but the short answer is yes.
I've been looking into Lutheranism. Not sure why. I think it's the lack of reverence at most evangelical churches. I am often left wanting more. However, there are some teachings that I'm not quite sure about, mainly baptism and preservation of the saints.
I'm very new in becoming a Lutheran and I have a few questions for you? Do Lutherans believe in Angels/Pope/Virgin Mary/Saints/Communions? Can Deacons/Pastors in Lutheran faith marry?
EnZo AmORe We believe in Angels, have great respect for the Blessed Mother, commemorate the Saints. We don’t pray to them, but honor them. We don’t have a pope. Deacons and priests can marry
I grew up in a St Mark's Lutheran Church in Aurora Illinois from Baptism to Confirmation. Id consider it to have been a more Liberal and Progressive Church But an Uncle of mine attends Missouri Synod and it appears to be very Conservative in comparison A quick search shows there's 40 Lutheran Denominations?! Can you please explain what and why?
I'm a little confused by your use of the word "Catholic". Is a body of believers not Catholic if they don't follow the traditions Lutherans do? If they are saved but not Catholic, how does this square with the Nicene Creed, which says there is one Catholic and apostolic church?
You can only be saved by faith alone if you believe what the Bible says. Matthew 3:15 Jesus insisted that even John's baptism was fitting for them to fulfill all righteousness. A servant is not greater than his Lord. Matthew 3:16 In baptism, the Father claims the Son. The Spirit rests on the Son. Matthew 21:25 Mere water baptism is a gift from Heaven. Matthew 28:19 Make disciples by baptizing in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit and by teaching. Mark 1:4 Mere water baptism = repentance for the forgiveness of sins. Mark 16:16 *Baptized believers are saved, unbelievers condemned.* Luke 7:29 Even water baptism is a public declaration that God is righteous. Luke 7:30 *Rejecting even mere water baptism = rejecting God's purpose for you.* John 1:31, 33 John knew beforehand that God would reveal the Christ through baptism. Acts 2:38 *Repentance and baptism = forgiveness and the Spirit.* Acts 2:39-41 3000 bachelors, virgins, wives, husbands, and *children of all ages received forgiveness and the Spirit in baptism.* The smallest can't have decided to repent in a mature way, but they were not excluded. Acts 8 Many early church Bible readers saw a distinction between the Spirit's invisible gift of repentance/forgiveness and the Spirit's visible gift of leadership/ordination. Philip the Evangelist could baptize but not bestow spiritual authority. Only the apostles could do that. Acts 22:16 *Baptism washes away sins.* Romans 6:3, 4 *Baptism is death to sin, death with Christ, and newness of life in Christ.* 1 Corinthians 1 Baptism must not turn into hero worship, cliques, and factionalism. 1 Corinthians 12:22, 13 On the contrary, baptism is unity in the one Holy Spirit in Christ. 1 Corinthians 15:29 Even superstitious baptism declares the resurrection of the dead. Galatians 3:27, 28 Baptism clothes every member of the body of Christ in equality. Ephesians 3:5 There is one Spirit, one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of all. Ephesians 5:26 Baptism sanctifies the Church because it is the washing of water with the word. Colossians 2:11 Baptism is a works-free death, a cutting off of the flesh. Colossians 2:12 Christ was buried. You were buried with Christ *in baptism.* God raised Christ from the dead. You believe God raised Christ from the dead. Therefore, God raised you with Christ *in baptism.* This is all *God’s powerful work.* Hebrews 6:1-2 *Baptism is a basic foundational teaching. You can't say you believe in Jesus while rejecting his basic teachings.* 1 Peter 3:20 Noah was saved by water, not from water. The flood waters washed away much evil. 1 Peter 3:21 Baptism now *saves you!* Baptism is assurance/demand of a good conscience before God through the resurrection of Jesus Christ. This verse summarizes all that has been said above. The Bible does not only say that the Lord's Supper is done in remembrance: Matthew 26:28 Jesus calls it the blood of the covenant. Hebrews 9:20 The author quotes Moses saying the exact same words about real blood. There is no precedent here for saying "is" means "represents." 1 Corinthians 10:16 The bread and the cup are a koinonia (co-union/intimacy/participation/contribution/distribution) of the body and blood of Christ. 1 Cor 11:20 There is an objectively true Lord's Supper. Unreconciled schism within the congregation make it objectively not the Lord's Supper. 1 Cor 10:21-22 The Lord, whose name is Jealous, is jealous of his cup and his table. 1 Cor 11:23 The Lord specifically and personally revealed the Supper to Paul. 1 Cor 11:27 Misuse of the Lord's Supper is not just a bad reenactment. It makes you guilty of sin against the very body and blood of the Lord. 1 Cor 11:28-30 Mere reenactments do not require earnest soul searching on pain of punishment and death. Therefore true Christian faith in these words: "This is my body which is for you, … This is my blood of the new covenant," must take all into account. 1 Cor 5:11 We are not to eat even secular food with christians who do not accept correction. Guests, whose lives are unknown to the pastor, should be catechised first. "Revilers" (who insult our face value belief) are rightly excluded.
Christopher! DON"T BECOME LUTHERAN! Orthodoxy is the true faith that Christ started. Please, don't follow the path of Protestantism which will lead you to eternal destruction!!
Don't. Read the Bible. See if infant baptism is actually in there. See if ideas such as "infants received faith and new life through the sacrament of infant baptism" is in there. If not, don't become a Lutheran. If your question is about simply attending a Lutheran church, then the answer is "depends". If your city is full of Roman Catholic churches, then by all means go to the Lutheran church instead.
@@JohnPeters-qz2zbin the Bible entire families get baptized often, and as evidenced by the joy of the fetal John upon being in the presence of Jesus, it’s shown that infants can even rejoice in the presence of the lord.
@David Ortiz No normal lutherans don't say that idiotic thing. I'm from a lutheran country and here catholics and lutherans have often done arrangements together with priest from both sides. It strange why are you here to eager to bash all lutherans when we are amongst those who are closest to you. I have defended the catholic church multiple times against accusations from other protestants WHY are you here attacking all lutherans? You are doing nothing but pushing people away. If you want people to be catholic why do you do this? You are acting like the typical american protestant. Where are u from?
Good explanation/teaching...but it is the same as what I have learned in my reformed denomination church. All the denominations and breakup's in the church were not necessary..it is a sort of tradegy but I guess one has to understand people are different. People come to Jesus Christ in the various denominations - maybe this also says something. Ultimately we are brothers and sisters in the holy catholic church.
You should go to a church that teaches Jesus actually saved his people on the cross unlike many churches who teach Jesus only made it possible to be saved if the sinner activates it.
In layman's terms (I am a layman) the RC church believes all theology and orthodoxy are derived from the Pope, who is the final arbiter. True Evangeilical Lutherans (not the ELCA) believes that the Bible is the inerrant the Word of God, perfect and sufficient for seeking salvation, righteousness and knowing our creator. (ELCA differentiates itself by believing the bible contains some truth, but is not entirely true.) One of the most foundational statements at the beginning of the Protestant Reformation as well as a majestic definition of true Evangelical Lutheran was published in 1530, The Augsburg Confessions.
I haven’t chosen a denomination yet I’m exploring, but even I with little education know that what you just said has 0 research behind it. Just like how Calvinist aren’t happy about being called Calvinists that name just stuck. The same thing with Lutheran.
If we were indeed tabula rasa beings, I might be Lutheran. Whenever your bishops and ours figure out their differences and come into full communion with each other, which I believe is God's will for the Church, you might just see me at a Lutheran Church. We're already in the same boat with Grace Alone, God Alone. After all, I have a soft spot in my heart for the Lutheran impulse, and a Catholic (universal) Church must have varied rites for stylistic choices. David danced into Jerusalem (ritualistic style) but it was his wife who sinned by judging his different form of worship.
hi Jordan I actually came on here to learn more about Lutherans. I am a non denominational person and interested in both the Orthodox and Lutherans. I hope you will soon do a video on why not Orthodox? I also wouldn't mind hearing why not synergism. I know God provided Salvation for humans after they fall. But for a human to receive salvation they have to first accept it and "run the race set before them".
Where in the Bible does it say that Paul, the apostle to the gentiles, taught that elders, pastors or leaders of the church must wear those type of garmets, robes or wear crosses? Also, the word catholic doesn't even appear in the bible.
🧐 from watching your video on infant baptism I thought you were Roman Catholic. Very good baptism video I learned a lot, and I will use part of it for my church baptism class, thank you. I didn’t realize how close Roman Catholics and Lutherans are. As Steve Colbert says, you are just a pope away . Lol. J/k God bless you.
@@enniopaone Well, they both go by a fully different gospel: it is the message of salvation that makes all the difference... after the separation, of course...
Sure. In many ways Lutheranism is light version of Roman Catholicism. They abandoned some of really bad parts such as indulgences, but a lot of the thinking is pretty much the same.
@@JohnPeters-qz2zb indulgences are not bad in themselves,they are good for the soul if done with proper intention to be sorry for sins committed and growing closer to God. If I’m correct it was the selling of indulgences that was the bad part and I would agree.
Tell me Dr, will they hear the word, will they hear, " And having made peace thru the blood of His Cross" .......now to reconcile you in the body of His flesh thru death to present you, holy, unblameable and unreprovable in His sight". Will they ever hear and read Heb 10 vs 16, 17 ,18. David in the temple "for Lord you have magnified your word above or upon all of your name. " Litturgy is fine, but the word, who is Christ our Lord, must govern its Truthfulness and its wholeness.
I absolutely do not think that the lethargical service is bibical if argue most of it is pegan but we unite in justification which is absolutely where the church should stand
