@@Ozivinnzbro why the fuck are you licking pessis feet all the time 2010 2019 2021 2023 the years messi robbed dor when did ronaldo rob 2013 and he got robbed 2018 atleast my goat has genuine 5 dors
plz stop it. Europeans and the English media was heavily biased towards Pele .... garrincha was far better than him . in 1958 Didi was far better and de estifeno would've stolen the show ... maradona 86 , 87 and 88.... Pele would've won 5
And If Pele won 3 world cups, 7 ballon dors, scored 752 goals he would have won the Super Ballon Dor. Certifying him as the greatest of all time. (Yes, ahead of Messi and Ronaldo)
when messi has 8 ballon dors and the most goals in a calendar year. most laliga’s most MOTM most 10/10 match rating most golden boots so no ronaldo and pele are still dog S compared to him
@@LifeWithWinstonAndFreckles that’s why they have professionals to vote the winner. has ever crossed your mind that there are smarter people than you that watch 90 min of each game to decide who the winner is but know let’s allow all the ronaldo fans to vote. bc scoring most goals in a calendar year is dumb. but nooo having a six pack is iconic. this is why 1/3 ronaldo fans are just as stupid as the other 2
Pele is really underrated most of the PPL believe he isn't the greatest coz he played in Sao Paulo and not in European clubs. But in reality he played against European clubs 132 times {exhibition matches} like {Madrid, barca, Milan, inter etc) and never lost a single match scoring 144 goals. In my opinion he really is the greatest of all time alongside with Messi and Ronaldo or maybe even better if you correctly check his stats.
Nope, he isn’t even close skill wise, to achieve the things messi and ronaldo have achieved in this day and age with massive competition is really something amazing, pele was amazing but for his era, also Peles 526 from his 1283 goals are from unofficial friendlies and tour games, stat wise he’s far away from messi and ronaldo
Pelé. Has decent skills, but never near messi maradoona, and Ronaldinho and Ronaldo, just go watch football of 60s and 70s that wasn't that great skills, why ? Because at that time football wad not a professional sport like today and most players are mature not pro
@@unknown-unknown69 Different era , knowledge, culture. Yes. When Pele still playing, He never know about Maradona, Ronaldo, Messi, CR7. But all of them know who Pele is. If Pele born in this era, Maybe he can.t be the best. Same for other player too. If they born in Pele Era, They will be average player.
@@deuscaritasest1278 I completely agree with everything you said 👍👍 Sure messi and Ronaldo learned a lot from former great players sush as Pelé, maradoona and many others.
@@jackchat yeah Allright I agree with you. It would be nice to have a more objective/stats based way to decide who wins the ballon d’or tho. Including defenders, goalies, midfielders, etc
Yeah. Not only that but, (don't get me wrong, Messi is a great player, and one of my favorites) Lewandowski deserved a ballon d'or that Messi ended up getting, so if it was fair, Pele would have 1 more Ballon d'or than Messi, but Messi is about to win another one, so if it was fair, they would be even, but because Messi got it in 2021 I think (When Lewandowski should have gotten it) Messi is about to have more ballon d'ors than Pele.
@@rayankhan4327 messi clearly desereved the 2021 ballon d or. Goals are not the only criteria that make a player best. Titles and performance are important. Messi performed better than lewandowski that year. Messi had 26+ motm while lewa has only 13 motm. This itself shows that who is the better performer
@@yassinostun4612benzema winned a ucl, scored 10 goals only in the eliminatory phase, won a ballon d'or, LaLiga best player and other crack things. Messi was carried by martinez in a world cup
Not discrediting Pele but it needs to be mentioned that he only played in 🇧🇷 and the 🇺🇸… Hard to tell how he would have performed. Messi won in an age where athletes are perfectly trained and there are little weaknesses. He scored all those goals and gave all those assists playing the best football of any generation… but keep it coming!!!
@@CSantiago1994 The Brazilian league was harder than any European league in the 50s, 60s, and 70s. Back then, Brazilians used to stay in Brazil, so the league was VERY competitive. Don’t talk if you don’t know what you’re talking about…
@@martyrx3436 Gow can you prove that?! So you are saying that the best players in the world went and played in Brazil? I don’t think so… if you want to feel nice and warm about your countryman don’t just spit unchecked facts. The only fact here is that Messi did play against the best players in the world vs. Pele against the best players in Brazil…
@@CSantiago1994 You talk like you can even prove European leagues were better than Brazil league. As far as facts are involved, we do know Brazil won most of the World Cup during that time. Hence, it is fair to say they had the best player and a very competitive league.
If that the case, then Stephan Schröck won it while he was still playing for Frankfurt and he's the reason why Frankfurt is such a good team because he is the most unknown goat of all time.
Well, either they're saying it while crying or not, some ballon d'or given to Messi were pretty much unfair and fraudulent. And that has nothing to do with Cristiano or whatever you consider the reason these people are "crybabies".
Even more reason to know why Pele is the goat! They literally stopped wars to watch the guy kick a soccer ball around! That’s a legendary status that isn’t easy to each! You gotta be “That guy” aka “Him!”
@@ribbie5362 You call winning his first world cup (1958) at 17 and scoring 6 goals during that world cup being carried??? You call scoring 12 goals in all 3 world cups he won being carried?? SMH.
@@giornogiovanna3274 not as competitive as today you say? Every players back then is considered as an legend or icons while today only a few players you can considered as an icon/legends. They play at the highest competition with a little advantage on gear technology, every years have different winner on Ballon D'Or/FIFA Best Players of The Years and thats show how tough the competition back in the day. Unlike today just been dominated by ronaldo/messi and you think today competition is way more competitive than before? Just STFU kiddo, you know NOTHING about football. You watch football probably since 2010, so dont talk about football history when you dont know any SHIT about it.
@@giornogiovanna3274 if football is so competitive so why barca and real dominates laliga? There's should almost equal domination of all teams in laliga.
2020 was definitely lewy's. I honestly thought they would award both (20 & 21) that day. I thought it would be amazing to see two players at the stage receiving the award. Too bad, there is no balon d'or 2020
Lol, sneijder didn't even win player of the year in Italy. This is one of the dumbest myths of the last decade. At no point was he the best player on the planet... You want to put more emphasis on trophies? OK, it still doesn't go to him. It goes to iniesta or xavi. Both better, and both won the wc
@@s.1016 because those "farmers league" games didn't make up a big part of his year and the voting was even earlier than his already small part of games compared to his barca games
I JUST ASKED THIS QUESTION ON ANOTHER CHANNEL!!! 😱😱😱I asked why Pele never won one?!? THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ANSWERING MY QUESTION!!! 👏👍👌You are an awesome football channel!!! ☺️
After all this years now there's a what if version of most Ballon d'or winner but funny how Messi is walking towards his 8th ballon d'or what will crush not only reality but also what if dreams. The Greatest of all time. 💙
I dont think same level.. if he get that 7 ballon dor thenn it will become 7 ballon dor + 3 World cup ... and second in all time goal score... for me personally the only one who can challenge pele is maradona
Lionel Messi has won the Ballon d'Or multiple times due to his remarkable consistency and ability to shine in key moments. Here's a breakdown of why he deserved it each year: 2009: Messi's first Ballon d'Or came after leading Barcelona to a historic treble, including winning La Liga, Copa del Rey, and the Champions League. His flair, dribbling, and goalscoring were pivotal in this dominant season. ⚽🏆 2010: Despite a World Cup disappointment, Messi had an incredible club season with Barcelona, scoring 47 goals and showing unrivaled playmaking abilities. His consistency set him apart from others. 🎯🔥 2011: Messi helped Barcelona win another Champions League and La Liga title. He was unstoppable in key matches, including his mesmerizing performances against Real Madrid in the Champions League semifinals. 🏆🔝 2012: Messi broke Gerd Müller's record by scoring 91 goals in a calendar year. His record-breaking feats and individual brilliance were unmatched, making him a clear winner this year. 💥📊 2015: Messi was instrumental in Barcelona's second treble under his leadership. His dazzling displays in the Champions League, especially against Bayern Munich, showcased his unmatched skill set. 🌟⚡ 2019: Messi won his 6th Ballon d'Or after scoring 51 goals in all competitions and leading Barcelona to another La Liga title. His dribbling, vision, and creativity were still unmatched at 32 years old. 🎩🎯 2021: Messi's Copa América victory with Argentina, his first international trophy, cemented his greatness. His leadership, especially during the final, and his incredible performances throughout the tournament were crucial. 🌍🇦🇷 2023: Messi won his record-extending 8th Ballon d'Or after leading Argentina to World Cup glory in 2022. His pivotal role throughout the tournament, especially in the final, defined his legendary status. 🏆⚽
Oh well you know, one of the most hard times for offense to play and when defense was actually good. Yashin, Eusebio, Garrincha, Moore and Charlton are nobody to you?
And if Messi and Ronaldo played in the time of Pelé the‘d have none as well because Messi would be too short to play and Ronaldo’s career would’ve been over early due to knee injury
Damn I had enough with Pele and his backyard goals. There were players you never heard of because Europe had a f…ing war, football was not a way of getting money in Europe and so on…GOD!!!
