I have a miroku mk70 grade 5 ,I bought it second hand 35 years ago,you can have it when I'm dead and not until, solid,reliable, cheap for the quality, and it feels like it was made for me,tad heavy in my later years but it's a fine shotgun,
I was a beretta sliver pigeon lad and then I got a mk38 sporter and havnt looked back solid gun, fixed choke and in my opinion probably one of the best trap guns
Miroku all the way! does what it says on the tin! *A Shooters Gun For Shooters* that and it handle's just as good as guns 3 to 4 times as much as it! Simple and effective! MK 38 Grade 5 trap is truly different class! best handling guns out of the box for little to no money! plus they seem to be getting niche now! haha.
Swapped from beretta to try a miroku last year, picked up a mk38 teague sporter, swapped the trap forend to a shnable and teague 3/8 & 3/8 titanium chokes, honestly say i doubt i’ll ever part with it. Nothing it cant put down and all for under 2k
Miroku give you more for your money, good handling, good balance and simple features that make them a little more pretty. My little old sporter came with a fiddle back oiled stock with swept back pistol grip and black heel plate, nice chequering. and a tear drop. The forend has tulip end, and the chequering was better design with the four pointed finger design would be two fingers below the forend as opposed to two on each side. All this for £350, Miroku started to take the market, its no wonder browning took them over. Dont forget if you buy one, have the chokes regulated and trigger pulls reset, I set mine at 31/2 lbs IF you want to fine tune your gun Happy days and good luck shooting.
The official spelling of John's description of browning's advanced technology @ 5min 30 is 'Teflonchromiumimblyimblemelmkkdedum' Hope this helps ;) Also on a more serious note, i live in Australia and own a Miroku Mk10 Grade 3 which does have a palm swell, maybe these are not available in the UK? love the gun!!! great video as always!
Crazy review. I mainly shoot sporting clays and I have a Miroku mk70 Sporter Grade 5 (beautiful wood) and have just bought a new Browning B25 sporter (as a back up since stupidly selling my Citori), they both seem to handle/shoot the same, I do like my Browning, great gun.. but i LOVE my Miroku.
I can see where the "Miroku might be better finished than a Browning" argument would come from since, at least here in the U.S., I heard the same rumor floating around for the Winchester 101 vs. the Nikko/ Kodensha branded guns (especially in wood quality). If Miroku guns were offered here though (don't think that will happen with the non-compete agreement they have here, plus the ubiquity of the Browning name), I'd probably own one myself over the Browning I have right now.
Miroku makes or made a real nice Colt clone back in the day. As well as some 1911's and M-16's for there defence force. As well as a fair amount of barreled actions for custom sporting rifles.
Hi I have both a mk60 hp and a b525 in 28 gauge... And I must say I love them both.. I did have a b725 hunter with excellent wood on it but it's not as nice as my mk60 hp... Not by a long shot
Browning North America has a lot to answer for. Not only are Miroku guns blocked from entry, the more attractive Browning models such as the Heritage, B525, B725 Black Gold, B725 UK Premium, Ultra XS are also not imported. North America is the largest sporting arms market in the world and we get the least attractive guns. I can't imagine what Browning is thinking.
I absolutely agree with you. There isn't a single Browning gun made for the American market that I want. They look awful! That's why I stick to the Belgian Brownings.
I bought my first brand new Miroku back in 1986 I’ve had other guns but still own it along with 2 other Mirokus my grade 5 3800 32 inch fixed choke is sublime
Love the videos but how about comparing 4 manufacturers And make Winchester one of them as a Winchester lover (I like to be different) Compare handling and price.
I really enjoyed seing your video. I also understand to be "alternative" as per your words. That is why I only shoot side by side shotguns both for game and clays all dated back to the 20 to 40s. This Browning/Miroku video was really needed Thanks so much!
My skeet gun is a Miroku Mk70 in 20ga with 30 inch tubes. I like the stock measurements better than the current Brownings. I also own a Browning CSX in 20ga with 30 inch barrels as well. The guns are very similar overall with some key differences: The Browning has an adjustable trigger, the Miroku does not. The Browning has a ventilated barrel attachment, the Miroku does not. The Miroku is fitted with standard Invector chokes (Angle Ports), the Browning utilizes Invector plus (Midas). The Browning came with a mid bead, the Miroku did not (I added one). The Rail on the Browning is wider than the Miroku. The receiver on the Browning is all black with gold lettering. The Miroku has a white (chrome) receiver with some tasteful, albeit, machine engraving. The Miroku came with a plain plastic butt plate (replaced by a Kickeez pad), the Browning came with an "Inflex 2" pad. So how do they differ? The Miroku is slightly lighter and livelier and balances closer to the hinge pin. The Browning tends to be slightly nose-heavy. Overall, I shoot the Miroku a little better. There aren't many of them in America and I get a lot of "what's that" comments about the gun. Finally the wood on the Miroku is quite a bit better than the Browning.
I went with 525 precisely because at the time I was in the market and looking for a new Sporting OU I knew very little about modern shotguns! I certainly had no experience with a range of guns to form a personal preference. Thus, I went with what was popular and ubiquitous, what other people had written plus advice from Gun Shops (dangerous, I know ;) ). If I knew then what I know now, would I have made a different choice ? Would I have gone for Miroku ? Probably not. Thanks for keeping up the output to keep us informed and entertained in strange times, much appreciated. Hey look, my Club has reopened ! I'll see you on the Stands, at a safe distance, bottle of handsan...
I have to say that I own both Miroku and Browning shotguns but I bought a Miroku High Pheasant in 2018 and god I love it, just clean kills on clays or game and handles like a dream with its 32” fixed choke barrels.
I've got a MK11 Grade 3 great gun why did I buy a Miroku? Because of what was available it was the best fit. Only complaint is for the near 3K price tag they don't come supplied with a hard case.
I bought a ML11 recently for my son who is getting into the sport and shoots right handed . I am thinking I also need my own gun and was thinking of getting another ML1- in left hand for me... but need to save up !
No experience with a Miroku but have problems with both my Brownings. And ONCE THEY SELL THE GUN THE FACTORY SERVICE DOES. NOT WANT TO KNOW YOU! Browning service is the worst I’ve ever SEEN , After you buy the gun YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN! I also have 2 BERETTAS. CANNOT BEAT THEIR AFTER SALE CARE!
I own a miroku mk10, a browning 525 gr3 and a browning ultra xs prestige amongst other guns, all of them are superb,especially the xs prestige, I would like your thoughts on that gun
The only argument for me is Beretta or Browning/Miroku . Browning wins every time. I’ve battered my ultra xs unmercifully for the last 4 years and it has never misfired or failed to eject, not once! And bonus, still looks good.
@Steven Lord I have a High pheasant 20 bore. I love it ! It has 32” barrels with fixed chokes 3/4 and Full. I am currently having multi chokes fitted to cover steel shot but to also give me a few more options for closer shots. I have cleanly shot some very spectacular high, January pheasants. It kills long range ( true 70-80 yard) birds as if they had flown into a barn door. I have also cleanly missed as many! The Beauty of having tight chokes on a small bore gun is that you either hit stone dead or miss altogether! No one wants to prick birds. At closer range however, when you do hit your target, you can do a little too much damage. Not every shoot you go on will have stratospheric birds, regular partridge and pheasant shoots will present fantastic 30-40 yard birds and I believe a less choked gun is better suited to these targets! Now that I have added the multi chokes of 1/2, 1/2, 3/4 and Full I have a gun that can be used for all my shooting needs. I love it. The one other bit of advice that I think is key, is, whatever you have, make sure it’s fitted to you 👍🏻👍🏻
Hi Mathew. I have the Mk38 trap grade 5 choked 3/4 full & agree with you on the every point there. Like you I am too looking at getting mine opened up for steel and also you do have to pick some longer birds as anything 40 off yards does tend to get hit hard. All the very to you for the coming season. 👍
How bloody dare you! ;-) Interesting video... I suppose with both Browning and Miroku (and any manufacturer) it boils down to the one gun that ticks the most boxes or is closest to your dream gun (within your budget). For me personally Browning ticks more boxes; I have bought the sporter version of the Browning B525 Shadow. I like the understated black action, the engraving is acceptable but not as nice as the engraving on some Miroku's... but it's black. I love the higher grade wood... What can I say, I love a nice piece of wood. I love how well made the Browning is, not that the Miroku isn't. I think if it was between a standard 525 and a Miroku I would find it harder to choose. How would you compare Belgian made Brownings and Miroku?
I had a Miroku MK38 which I just sold. I used to get a problem once or twice a day where the second barrel didn’t cock. I was told that I mustn’t be releasing the trigger fully. It never happens with my Beretta.
No different in both the brands because the same factory make them both with different Browning and miroku names. However browning brand is more popular Europe and Asia and miroku is only in united kingdom as for as I am aware of. Thanks for sharing these information with us anyhow.
@@craigrobinson8039 both are excellent guns and manufacturers. But Alas!I cannot afford both of them. Thus I should stick to my Baikal MP 27 poor man browning. Thanks
The Miroku would be more to my taste, but being that I'm in the USA, I don't really have the choice. You can't get a new Browning with a non-vented mid rib, standard engraving and a classic checkering pattern over here anymore. Plus, their checkering has taken a serious nosedive in recent years.
@@tgsoutdoorsMiroku SxS imported to the UK in the 70's and 80's would probably triple their value over here. Browning had these made as the "BSS" in US spec, and they are very popular. A BSS in good condition will fetch 2 grand.
Just wait untill Miroku launches a Boss/Woodward style action over and under. Perazzi, Kemen,, Antoni Zoli, Salvanelli, etc etc. will get some stiff competition.
Japanese manners and attitude makes me think that maybe they would actually put the better parts in the "gun for someone else" though I agree I would choose a miroku
I see your point, but I think pride in their reputation, plus their work ethic and reverence of traditional craftsmanship are things to consider when it comes to finish and assembly.
@@danmcn7343 thats what mine was done to 3/8 both barrels and it shoots brill infact had afew lads wanting to buy but dont want to pay the money i would take when you factor in the price of gun in first place the the work done
From a US perspective, we don't have to choose between the two....it's a Brownie or some other brand altogether The UK has a choice between the two and the UK gets better Browning models to choose from. Bottom line, they're guns...buy a bunch.
1. Is this a video about you explaining the difference between those 2 brands or is this a video about the difference about those 2 brands? 2. Hire a professional videographer. 3. When showcasing something ( especially an item ) throw some lights on it… that is the point… so the audience can see what the hell you are showing and what is the difference.
I don't know about grade 1 but I was on a gunshop site from Millbrook NY yesterday that's got I believe grade 3 and grade 5's The videos have me looking at new or at least additional target guns.
so miroku is better than browning because hipster? lol i own a miroku 3000, but thats because its was going for a great deal, and also im a massive weeb
