Why Mojang Hates Its Own Modders 

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why does this guy onley have 83k subs

L spyware

@@GetAubed_YT it has a chinese spyware and it will sell your data use brave instead

they always had add-ons, just that you couldnt use them outside of a specified map. add-ons can either be bought now or freely imported by downloading them online.

@@flooriiian they recetly had an update that allows you to use maketplace addons on any world, you just have to buy the addons not the maps

@@thedragonsden2004 yeah I think that's what he meant

yeah I think it was a good decision to make addons purchasable in the market place since you could already buy them through maps anyway. I dont see anything wrong with it and I think its great because it gives those creators a real good way to make money. I personally will still probably use free addons since Im not really into buying addons when I can go on Mcpedl or something similar and get a good addon for free.

the choice between spending money on generally lower quality mods and getting generally higher quality mods for free

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@@letsplaygtaSA2 becquse

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Moyang is lazy af

It's okay because THEY'RE the ones who now act as the mod distributor, and painfully they also own the Minecraft IP As much as it sucks, this isn't double standards or hypocritical. They legally own all thing Minecraft and the MC mod community outgrew (CREATED) their monetization option. Have you heard of Enshitification? This is the exact same thing

@@Firesgone Can you explain that in simpler terms? I have no clue what you are trying to tell me.

@@mindset2047 what does that have to do with my comment?

@@DerNeueTNT I'll give a definition of Enshitification past the "Read more" else, I suggest looking it up and comparing to your own experiences Enshitification: The cycle process by which companies create great products and foster awesome communities, to then reinforce their monopoly of their exclusive product and maximize all potential profit. Eventually being replaced by a similar product or being lost forever. The culmination of this is the entire community being deplatformed or otherwise abandoning the website/game/hobby as the functional product is turned to adware/trash/impracticality.

I don't get why paywalled mods even exist in the first place, why can't a patreon page be enough? Or if you want to lock your content behind a paywall, might aswell do game development and sell your own game then, since then it would be your own IP (unless you use stolen IP but that's another can of worms i'd like to not open) In short, why can't mod creators just make their content free and just have a patreon page where people can support them if they feel like it? Ofc we don't live in that world

@@wedoalittletrolling723 I think the point is that some modders want it to be similar to game development, just focused on minecraft cause they like the game. If they didn't paywall, they might not get enough money/support for it to be sustainable.

@@Benw8888 If the only thing keeping them going is a paycheck, then why would they bother with it in the first place?

Theoretically, you *can* make money from Patreon provided you present it in an open-ended way instead of focusing on the fact that you're making Minecraft mods. A simple reason of 'supporting my various endeavors' would work, methinks.

​@@ambientNexus So modder should rather starve?

same

same lol

I got nam flashbacks but instead of nam it was the unceasing adrenaline rush of wave 40+

Not related. Whats ur hardest on GD

@@KNCPGT LOL Kingslayer by Motheye, it took me 16k attempts and 8 months of on and off playing (Motheye himself said I’m the unluckiest victor)

Let's hope that nobody will steal java mods and texture packs to make a quick buck and vanish. And not fill marketplace with those stolen mods. Oh, yea, it is the current state of marketplace, isn't it?

Bedrock has always had addons

UHHH, BEDROCK HAS ADD-ONS SINCE 2016

yes but now people can sell them on there own to be imported into any world not just specific worlds built around them.@@ghaithzakk

@@TheEchoShark Java has existed before bedrock,therefore it is better. Case closed

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@@skyboimc Yo can we play together. Make a video about a race? Pretty confident i can beat you!

1. if your point about spyware in essential is true then yeah that's a problem, but i've never seen anything about it. i don't have any issue with them selling cosmetics, there is no advantage for people who choose to buy them. 2. most modders want to do it for free, so whats stopping them? let them! i'm only advocating for the option. 3. i mentioned in the video that updating is also a struggle. i personally trust the modrinth people to do a great job handling paid mods if that became allowed, i don't think it'd end up like bedrock. thank you for your comment! im interested in your response to this.

@@skyboimc 1. essential sends telemetry (spying) and sells telemetry (selling to companies). Pretty sure you can disable this, but they bury it deep enough that it's just enough to justify malware. I don't like essential for that reason, and dislike it even more for its insane cosmetic prices. 2. I don't think i worded myself correctly, sorry, i'm not fully against paid mods. Donations and (very few) paid mods are fine, aslong as they're absolute quality and still being updated. (see mcmmo for recent versions as an example, just not an amazing one) having a marketplace like bedrock edition's very much opens the flood-gates to poor quality mods, misunderstandings or scams. An example is the "physics"? mod, they had a free version, which was sucky and lacked most (all) core features, and a patreon which had the actual mod. People got the mod and weren't able to run it, wanted refunds and none were given. They were not able to use the product, yet couldn't get their money back, this is something steam and most other gaming retailers offer. If we're going to put them at the same standard of pay as gamedevs, they must be held to the same responsibility. Thus a lot of legal issues come up. Orespawn as an example of greed taking over an actually amazing mod. There's a reason bedrock marketplace is so bad, because presenting the option usually ends to a lot of assholes ruining it. Mod devs everywhere have been doing it for free, and the past has shown adding a marketplace makes things shitty, so i don't see a need to add money to an artform which doesn't need one at all, and the past has proven it makes things worse.

My biggest gripe is paywalling mods. Cosmetic MTX is not a big deal in the grand scheme of things, all things considered

Haven't heard of bills and taxes i see

@@star5384 dawg i would not want to drop a grand a month just to play a modpack like atm9. block game modding shouldnt be turned into an actual viable job, it just leads to drama and all fun being sucked out of the hobby

Like even one cent per mod would be like more than 1000x more than they get now from curse per download

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Keep malding

@@S7nR3set i did

Isn't that music from Ultrakill

same

@@DrPeeperno

Ikr, also i think clutterfunk is made by waterflame.

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and its funny that all of the peoples excuses is that they have to add it to every version and platform...... like still come on man, ive heard that too much lol

@@yourneighbour3309 well no. The problem is basically their corporatization or something from what I have heard

@@Jymboslicx just stating thats what ive heard lots of ppl say personally. but ahh yeye thank ya

@@yourneighbour3309 yes ,it is so little some moders Make a feature hours after announcement while Minecraft takes a full year

well, they charge the actual developers almost nothing, so it's the same story

No bro

​@SuitedGhost tru

paying should be illegal

Microsoft takes a 64% cut of marketplace sales.

it's insane that these people genuinely believe that mods should be locked behind a paywall. literally all you need to do to figure out how utterly imbecilic that would be is to spend a single day in the nonsense that is the sims 4 modding scene

@@felixfischer6168Fucking exactly. Paid mods just lead to waves and waves of low-effort garbage, which most likely will be made even worse with the advent of generative AI bullshit.

​@@felixfischer6168 not exactly. they are saying that modders should be able to make money, never have l heard peonix say anything about paywalls, more in the line of that they want to at least do like commissions or a patreon

theres also 3:48 which has a song in Geometry Dash though I know it's not originally from GD

@@smudgethecat8315clutterfunk 2.2, it’s an extension from og clutterfunk so it isn’t in gd

4:48 ultrakill

2:31 BTD5

@@smudgethecat8315clutterfunk

imagine building a house in creative to that banger

well, people tried, but, money doesn't appear out of nowhere, and there is a lot of modders. If users aren't ready to donate or subscribe to patreons or others from the creators of the mods they use and love, then we're going to keep having this problem

Personally, I'd consider someone opening a patreon or starting a youtube channel as someone starting their business. It's all there, the product, the branding, the ads. As long as you get any money for something you made, congrats, you did business. For me, the real problem is that if you get big enough and you don't have the "bedrock 30% cut seal of approval", you're swatted by microsoft, and for some reason they don't bat an eye at people stealing mods or redistributing minecraft and making millions off that. It's like they don't want you to work honestly, insane!

@@Aleusegood point

Btw congrats on 83k 100k soon

"Better MC" is a modpack, not a mod; and a dogshit one at that. It's just a bunch of mods slapped together with little to no effort for integration or bugtesting on Lunapixel's side. Both it and Lunapixel objectively do not deserve respect.

YEAH! And minecraft without mods is the worst thing to play if you have been playing for 2-3years or more.

@@minuzbecomez When you say "without mods" you mean optimization/performance mods right? I quite prefer vanilla over modded (so long as I have optimization mods).

@@lasercraft32 Some people always play with QOL or tech/overhaul mods after getting tired of vanilla and I totally get that. I personally usually have both a vanilla and modded world going.

I dont pay for minecraft, i shouldnt pay for mods. Modding shouldnt be a way of life. Its just basic coding. Its better to work at a big tech coder and earn 50k per year or more

@@gabrielv.4358 Bruh... This has to be one of the most insensitive (and frankly stupid) comments I've ever seen. "Just basic coding" what even the heck... "oh just go work at a big tech coder" as if its as easy as flipping a switch. You know literally nothing then. Do you have _any idea_ how difficult it is to get a job like that? Do you have _any idea_ how much creativity, passion, time, and effort is put into bigger mods? You're the kind of person that would pay an artist with "exposure" because you think making art is _easy_ somehow. Have you EVEN SEEN the kinds of mods that doctor4t makes??? That is in no way what I would call "simple coding." Art is not easy. Modding _is_ a form of art so long as there is passion behind it. Modding IS NOT easy, and modders deserve respect. Also... What do you mean you "don't pay for Minecraft?" You have to pay to buy an account, unless you're one of those people who used sketchy cracked accounts. Most mods are free as well, which is way cheaper than most modders deserve.

OH MY GOODNESS THATS ME

It's impossible.

I mean if youre this type of person now its time because people are quite literally integrating the whole ai stuff in minecraft so if you dont care about talking to a real human than this already exists

Minecraft comes alive works well

Mojang's already failed in that department with the bedrock marketplace.

hey exspark

ok why are you here

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