Why Most osu! Players Use Tablets 

It's clearly because so many osu! players are just heavily invested in digital art, but then surprise themselves by accidentally becoming tablet players

cause cookiezi use tablet, end of discussion

1 word, mouse drift

Thank you willy, not many people cover this topic. Straight to the point, interesting, and gives some history behind the use of tablets.

To the new players who get mouse drift it's simply an issue of your lack of skill 9/10 times don't splash out on a tablet when at the end of the day you still won't hit those circles and you'll probably quit before you truly reap the rewards, play at least for a year imo before buying a tablet.

I felt like you tried your hardest not to offend anyone, and ended up saying nothing interesting or noteworthy the whole video.

I bought a tablet last year 2 months after I started to play osu. I switched back to mouse like 8 months ago and I doubt imma go back to tablet. seeing top mouse players is hella inspiring for me since the majority use tablet, and it makes me wanna get better

Thank you so much for explaining the Ouendan and Elite Beat Agents games. I first played those games and then found out about osu in 2010. I remember being a little kid and my family wasn't about to buy me a tablet just so I could tap circles, so I had no choice but to start off with mouse. I couldn't aim for shit, and I eventually forgot about the game completely. Eventually in my teenage years I decided to try osu again and I played with mouse for a while. Years before that, my mom got a Wacom tablet for her birthday that she never used, so when I started playing osu more often, I asked her if I could use it and she just gave it to me. I tried to use it to play osu only to realize that I aimed just as bad as I did with mouse. The only reason why I didn't switch back was because I wanted the Ouendan/EBA feel. That's why I still get confused when I see current new players wanting a tablet immediately despite not knowing about the existence of the mentioned DS games that osu is based off of.

There might be a way to kill mouse drift with the proper hardware. There is what is called kalman filters in the field of control systems theory, where you can use 2 or more sensors and blend them together to get optimal sensor readings. One very common use of this coupling system is to blend the data of a very reliable and quick sensor that has drift with the data of a very slow and noisy one that does not drift to get a better sensor reading. Might be worth looking into!

I never understood the complaints about mouse drift. For me, mouse drift was simply a signal that a map was out of my skill range. Once I got more comfortable around that skill range, it basically disappeared. Mouse drift was very apparent on maps that were way out of my league so this signal was very helpful in seeing what I could aim comfortably or not. I later switched to tablet because my hand would cramp so badly using mouse, it hurt. Another reason why I stuck with tablet is because my movement felt more fluid as if I was drawing which felt more natural. Keep in mind tho, I tried switching to tablet 3 times. 2 of them resulting in failed attempts that made me just stick with mouse cause it felt better. But now I'm a tablet main. Switching to tablet brought numerous problems for me tho. Such as constant loss of grip and pressing on the pen too hard with my thumb that made it to numb often. The grip is the most inconvenient especially when your fingers just choose a day to be sweaty. I guess for most players the inconvenience of mouse drift supercedes the inconvenience of pen grip. As for me, tablet included a more natural movement that I liked. However I could never escape the chains of mouse because I do drag on tablet. I need friction and I can never understand how some tablet players hover lol

interesting thing to note is that the 10-15% of the top 100 being mouse players statistic hasn't really changed for as long as i've been around

I think as you get better at osu! On mouse it becomes really easy to doubt whether or not you should switch, chances are that after a slight learning curve you'll be as good If not better, but it's also sad considering the hours of commitment and dedication you put into overcoming your input device

I'm left handed but i still use the mouse with my right hand, although I don't mind using the mouse with my right hand, it still feels slightly uncomfortable aiming with my least dominant hand. That's why i swapped to tablet, it feels way better to aim with my left hand than right and my aim became more consistent. The absolute positioning that tablets offers is just an added bonus.

I probably will switch from a mouse to a tablet if only the hover distance is larger (maybe it's varied from tablet to tablet? Idk), I found that using my pinky as an anchor makes it really easy to aim, the only problem is I can't maintain the hover distance to not go off the range... So I will stay as a mouse player for now...

just got back to playing osu again after 2 years. i played with the mouse for about 2 weeks, i can aim fine with it and able to get high acc on short 6* maps. but i changed to tablet again because i cant really get comfortable with the mouse grip, which make me hard to play longer 6* maps that have no break at all.. switched back to tablet and it only took me 2-3 days to adjust and find a comfortable pen grip.. also because i saw someone listed cth 480 for $30 and i immediately bought the tablet lol

Honestly, i switched to tablet for a few reasons, but the main reason is that my hand used to hurt a lot when I played with mouse, i also had to adjust my grip in the middle of any map that was longer than 30 seconds. Now because of my grip with pen my fingers still hurt but nowhere near to when I used to play with mouse. The final reason I think is also because every top player uses a tablet and I'm pretty sure it had an impact in my decision but is not the main reason.

I originally switched to tablet because I had trouble griping my mouse well enough, but tablet had it's own issues for me and at some point I decided to try mouse again and I had somehow worked out how to grip it right, and it felt way better than tablet so I use that now.

I started playing the game like 2 months ago and a couple weeks back, i bought a tablet. i just wanted to see, how it feels to play on it tbh. Saw one on amazon for like 40 bucks and was like, eh whatever, might aswell try it. I thought, that buying extra gear this early into the game might be overkill, but, then again, i don't stand anything to lose, other than a little bit of money. I have to say, after playing a bunch with the tablet, it genuinly feels better to play on compared to mouse, for me anyway. I don't know, if im actually better on tablet or not, but, lets be real, im new so of course im still bad at the game currently, no matter what input device. But it certainly feels nicer to play with, it feels snappier and faster. Mouse feels kind of sluggish and less precise in comparision. Of course, all of that is just personal experience, i suppose it's different for each person. I have no idea, if there is any benefit for me in using a tablet over a mouse, but it certainly makes the game more enjoyable for me.

I switched to tablet not because of mouse drift, but because I hate washing my mousepad every single week because of some spots being slow

they way i think about why tablet is so popular is because for a person to be dedicated enough to buy a whole tablet just for a game, that person gonna be really good at the game because of the dedication therefore there are better chance that a good player is playing with tablet but then tablet became affordable enough so newer player just see that pattern of good player play tablet so they too play with tablet which incentivise the next newer player to also play with tablet

I'm considering getting a tablet because I am frequently playing in multiple locations and not having to worry about a mouse pad is really appealing

I used a mouth (i wrote "mouth" instead of "mouse" and im leaving it like this) for more than a year. I had a tablet at home, but i never wanted to make a switch. ON THE DAY that i decided to try the tablet i got so much better at the game! My aim was instantly better and somehow my keyboard hand was much more accurate and agile, i swear. I was very amazed by this. Mouse is cooler, more practical and impressive, but a tablet is easier, more fun, at least in my opinion. (Later, i bought a mechanical keyboard, hoping to get instantly better again. I got worse, it took some time to get used to it xD )

the major problems i have with playing mouse is i get tired after huge jumps on a 3 minute map, and its way harder to spin fast with a spinner.

I inherited my tablet (the holy wacom intuos cth 480). I still absolutely hate using it. I love the weight of a mouse, and the smoothness and stability it brings.

if it wasnt for my tablet wearing out in 2 weeks every time i change my surface area i would probably still be using it

Personally mouse drift didn’t seem to affect me too much while using the Razer Viper Mini, but I hated the cord and a good wireless mouse is more expensive than a good tablet so I just went with a tablet.

tbh having absolute positioning cursor was my dream ever sinse i used mouse for the first time when i was a child but i thought such thing doesnt exist. turning off acceleration and things did make a huge diference and osu made me figure out that this is not just a dream but something that really exists. other than that i never played tablet and cant say shit but i do hate using mouse it also made me figure out how this cursor movement is called but who cares about that

1:25 is efficency the ranked score as a perfentage to the max they could possibly have with the amount of maps they have played?

Speaking from experience, I stuck to mouse for 3 years but eventually got tired of it: no, it is not because of mouse drift (this is especially the case for high sensitivity players.) Players can adapt to mouse drift unconsciously after playing for a while. The problem rather lies on firstly, the fact that one would have to spend more money on a decent mouse setup than on a tablet one, and secondly, how a small and thin tablet pen is obviously more flexible and mobile than a bigger gaming mouse (ultra-lightweight mice are an option but they are *so much more* expensive.)

mouse drift only affects me only on longer maps

One thing that I've always thought is that since your average tablet pen is lighter than your average mouse, it's a lot easier to move around quickly and precisely. Back when I played mouse, I could never get over 300RPM on spinners, but now that I play tablet, less than 300 is slow to me.

I was really hoping you were just going to say "mouse drift" at the start of the video and then the rest is just 4 minutes of black screen

I cant count the amount of times my mouse fell off my table during an fc

after only a month the friend that introduced me to the game bought and shipped a tablet to my place

It is not purely preference, stop with the copium

I'll admit that I've always been a horrible osu players, mouse of tablet. Tablet did help me get a lot of map S(S), but my decision to get a tablet was really an odd one. I bought a tablet for school work, then discovered that people used tablets to play. As a lot of my school's text related work was still hand written (until 8th grade when we all got iPads), it was a really simple switch from "academic" mode to playing. It was also a matter of getting carpal tunnel in my right hand from using the mouse.

Mouse drift can be fixed with higher sensitivity or grip.

I sometimes switch to mouse when playing somewhere else and i honestly do not notice much of tablet being easier i do notice the mouse drift slightly, it's annoying but not game breaking or skill limiting. Tablet for me has some annoyances as well like grip problems (aim just not feeling right, you'll know what i mean if you play tablet) and wrist strain for the manly grip havers like me.

Just wanted to know if I was the only one who put my tablet Vertical / -89.9 to be exact

I use mobile but I use a stylist pen cos it just feels smoother to move and tap

Honestly the only reason I first got a tablet after a month of playing was because i thought it looked cool and wanted to try something new.

i use tablet because the desk i have is small and sometimes my mouse would drop out of my desk. since tablet have a small area i use them.

Cool upload

Bought my tablet before playing osu for art but then remembered you can play games with it💀

I got one at like 75hrs (100now) but i did because i got a good opurtunity and i also wanted to draw (but month after getting it i still havent drawn much cuz im fucking lazy and have no motivation)

I see a lot of people complaining about mouse drift but when you get to certain point of skill it doesnt affect you

how to solve that mouse thing

i had to buy a tablet because when i do long periods of osu! with my mouse the right part of my hand begins to hurt so much so that i had to stop playing for a few hours just to play osu! again

Mouse drift, yeah that's why I move to Tablet after 3 years, in the course of me playing Osu nonstop since 2017, in three years I never really got myself improved with mouse other than passing some long stream map cuz I'm left handed and that alone also cause some damage to my hands... Moving to tablets unlocks my actual potential that I've never really got, in 2021 I did get myself some potential of passing some 7* map, but I quit cause I lose interest... When cookiezi plays often again, it's where I return to Osu again, I'm still trying to derusting, but honestly I'm killing my old top score the more I play right now... Although the transition from mouse to tablet will also putting me a downside of me unable to play stream map due to me being left handed, I can still do short burst, although again, it took me many months of constantly tapping with my right fingers, and it's not even funny... But in all honesty, I'm glad I'm leaving Mouse and move to Tablet Pen, because I swear to god, I rather have a stable aim and capable of doing flow aim than having myself able to stream long map.

I had a tablet so I tried because everyone told me I was weird for using mouse 5-6 years later and I still use my good ol mouse I can’t play with a tablet

my answer is: maybe u wont ran out of mousepad space cuz mouse is like a huge lego block with a sensor in the middle with a ratio of 1:12. while a stylus pen have a ratio of 1:1.2 cuz the stylus pen is as thin as a branch

if i didn't switch to tablet, I wouldn't even play the game anymore. Why? When i played with mouse, my grip got worse and worse everyday. It ended up as i held my mouse in a ~60° angle and my pinky rubbing on my mousepad in a very uncomfortable way. I made the choice to switch to a tablet, which i got used to it as quickly as FlyingTuna and also fix my normal mouse grip.

mouse drift said hi

personally, i'm left handed and it's much more difficult to found an left handed mouse than a tablet that you can use in both hands.

What's map in the beginning?

and what if I play only mouse

I use a tablet because I first started by playing Osu!stream on ios. It was kinda boring, ngl, so I moved to computer. Since I am more used to using iPad, I did a sort of screen-mirroring thing to try to play Osu! on my iPad. Too much lag lmao, but since I had a drawing tablet next to me I took it out. I tried my mouse first though, I, uh, couldn’t click nor move so fast with my mouse flying around, thus I changed to the tablet. It was ten times easier XD. My skill still kinda suck tho, but using a tablet is just easier.

bro i have a tablet as i am an artist but whenever i attempted to use it to aim it just goes straight to the top left corner of the screen and stays there.

Because people like Andros, Nyan and Fancy lad focused on overcoming mouse drift instead of "this is impossible, imma get a tablet"

i wish i should get a tablet to avoid mouse drift

This is such a good video

Learn something new everyday

the kushvan man

this dude is the etienne of standard

By the way, the majority of the osu community uses a mouse, it’s way more accessible than a tablet and most of the time in any game the most accessible way to play is going to be the way the majority plays. For any mouse player out there, I’d say absolutely try a tablet but also realize you aren’t gonna have a flyingtuna breakthrough with it, it’s a lot more down to preference than people realize. I think a lot of people think having a tablet is just an inherent advantage when it’s really not you can get as far as you want with a mouse

idk my wrist hurts on mouse

I think everyone is forgetting that a pen is much lighter than a mouse, thus easier to move and change direction quickly.

My main issue with this is that it's heavily influenced by bias. People jump to conclusions too quickly. How are people supposed to tell which playstyle fits them best without rigorous testing?

i've never known that, thank

Newbie here, but as a drummer you get more from the wrist than the entire arm. Same with guitar, etc.. it’s all in the wrist. And the. If you use wrist and arm together- you’ll be a god haha. Personally I got a small tablet cause the mouse is too heavy for me..

it feels nice

As a mouse player, I would absolutely play tablet if I could. I can't speak for all mouse players but I know that alot of us play it because tablet is too uncomfortable and causes pain in the wrist. I played tablet for about 2 years before being forced to switch to mouse because of uncomfort and pain and I really miss being able to play with absolute positioning and not having to deal with the friction of my entire arm when I play

I wanted to buy a tablet before,so i'll probably buy one

i switched to tablet because it seemed fun so i tried it and i liked it

There is no way you look at the top player tablet playrate statistics and just go "it's still a matter of preference guys". Tablet is just an objectively better plastyle and there is so much evidence on it yet people still try to sugarcoat it and reject the truth.

great video

I think tablet is for some pepole who have better stragedy and aim with a pen, lot of top pepole use tablet, like koifishu.

I got a tablet because my mouse aim wasn't improving at all, i managed to reach 6 digit with a mouse, then i got a tablet for christmas

I am a mouse player with a G502.

Tablet is just more forgiving because it's lighter, smaller muscles better at precision

Tablet just feels better for me

I never used a mouse for 20 years of my life so for me it was skill issue. If you used a mouse on your computer for games or even navigating the internet pretty much half of ur life you will not have this skill issue. A tablet for me was the best choice because I lacked muscle memory with the mouse but I been writing on paper for school etc pretty much all my life. Choosing the tablet was the choice for me.

I did not know that I was planning to try doing I play ctb and relax and easy mod

I enjoyed playing on mouse but as I played more and more and neared 5 digit I stopped simply farming TV size and shorter maps and started playing longer maps and noticed how much mouse drift affected me so I got a tablet

If a mouse player did reach rank 1 in osu, then maybe i can consider trying mouse again😅

Next video : Why do players use the rafis skin ?

Becausea percentage of osu players are artists

My reason never use tablet is get tablet is expensive and get decent mouse is less expensive.

with a mouse im gonna get hand arthritis.

i thought they started using tablets cause they draw then they are just used to using the tablet

unless you're a wiimote player

2 words: mouse drift

hello people coming from the future osu news post

Awesome you can use a tablet. Feels much more like Elite Beat Agents. Would be nice to have it all on one screen, until then the game still isn't as fun or good as EBA. I want to move the pen with the circles, on one machine, like the DS. One day. Until then, I'll stick with SM/ITG/DDR.

Could you make a video about the new PP record? I feel like it was out of left field for most players (I don’t understand it)

Short Answer: It’s Easier For The Majority of People

Okay. But now why noone plays counter strike with tablets and everyone uses mouse?

It’s convenient

the real gods uses the wii remote

tablet is just more easier to aim, with mouse I can't pass 5 stars maps and with the tablet I can pass 6 stars