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@deadchannel5933
@deadchannel5933 4 года назад
It's simple! 1.) Laziness (me included) 2.) Lack of motivation (totally me included) 3.) The skill and knowledge you need, and you don't have (totally me)
@datopdlink
@datopdlink 4 года назад
Same.
@TigransTips
@TigransTips 4 года назад
..and no userbase from air meaning no one will make apps for it 🥺
@bytemosery4946
@bytemosery4946 4 года назад
Facts, i want to create an entire ecosystem from desktop computers to vocal assistant that works well for everyone, easy to use and privacy centered, but I'm too lazy
@bytemosery4946
@bytemosery4946 4 года назад
@Chase Hudson that's a good thing, by making all your own programs or app you have more control
@ibemper1850
@ibemper1850 3 года назад
then i am the opposite of you, i have all of them
@MacbookCore
@MacbookCore 6 лет назад
You explained this better and faster than when we were learning this in college.
@TechteamGB
@TechteamGB 6 лет назад
That's the goal.
@radicalleavemealone-ist7751
@radicalleavemealone-ist7751 4 года назад
In modern times that is almost always the case.
@yikesidfk4710
@yikesidfk4710 2 года назад
The sign of a true teacher
@willthepotato
@willthepotato 4 года назад
TechteamGB: No one writes their own OS Terry A. Davis:
@alanjackson724
@alanjackson724 3 года назад
R.I.P Terry. You will be missed
@siphobrisloks8133
@siphobrisloks8133 3 года назад
I salute this man
@andrewdeneve7274
@andrewdeneve7274 2 года назад
“Hold my compiler”
@SoutParl
@SoutParl 3 месяца назад
"Hold my 2 meg distribution"
@oscwavcommentaccount
@oscwavcommentaccount 4 года назад
Why no one writes their own OS? Because It's hard. You have to learn some assembly programming.
@nebulium6641
@nebulium6641 4 года назад
I think its actually fully possible just to download the assembly parts and edit the c parts.
@Tamramsy
@Tamramsy 4 года назад
Nebulium you could learn Assembly and just write the whole thing
@oscwavcommentaccount
@oscwavcommentaccount 4 года назад
@Pepito Patasflacas By hard i mean that there are not much tutorials.
@saulgoodman5662
@saulgoodman5662 4 года назад
@@oscwavcommentaccount true dat
@oscwavcommentaccount
@oscwavcommentaccount 4 года назад
@Lucas Zhu Windows uses Assembly for the bootloader and maybe some other stuff. C for the os itself. And probably uses C++ for the apps.
@lincolnsand5127
@lincolnsand5127 4 года назад
3:07 Linux is not hundreds of thousands of lines of code. It is 10's of millions of lines of code
@Osama-kx3cq
@Osama-kx3cq 3 года назад
Yes 20 million + lines of code
@cyanmargh
@cyanmargh 3 месяца назад
And it's only the kernel
@ishmaelmusgrave
@ishmaelmusgrave 6 лет назад
rip Terry and the One True TempleOS
@David-hl9iv
@David-hl9iv 4 года назад
The CIA was after him
@thatonescrambler
@thatonescrambler 4 года назад
@@David-hl9iv just run the glowies over
@DJxSGGxNeo
@DJxSGGxNeo 3 года назад
He was the worlds best programmer unlike those MIT CIA N*(#@(#@% :O 2mb! 2 MB!!!! Rip Terry Davis! :/
@ruknot4648
@ruknot4648 6 лет назад
Have been watching you for a while, you deserve a bigger audience
@TechteamGB
@TechteamGB 6 лет назад
Thanks man! Would love if you can share the videos on places like Reddit where appropriate - that always helps!
@benirodriguez9516
@benirodriguez9516 4 года назад
I'm all into going for it!... I have plans of building my own hardware + software + operative system, to become an all-in-one for a certain industry. Although it's not an easy task, there are many functionalities I don't need, as the system will only run one program. I'll definitely do my research and see if I'm starting completely from 0, or if taking some of Linux, or even Unix. But I believe it could be nice to do my own from scratch. It will take years, and a lot of work. I'm already coursing for my bachelor in computer science. We'll see what happens. I might create a specific dev team to achieve it. And to respond to the main question of the video... the main problem is that all companies that built their own OS have 40-50+ years under their belt now (Linux = 30 years), so we wouldn't achieve anything closer of what they got now. To be honest, not even them would have achieve this if they started today!... it would take many people working for several years, to come close. Think of it... how many developers have gone through Microsoft and Apple in all the years since they started.. and hours? If someone back then had started along with Gates, Wozniacki/Jobs, etc... they could have had a shot to it, but it seems there weren't many privileged kids around that time, with a geek inclination.
@noahfletcher3019
@noahfletcher3019 4 года назад
I believe you can do it. Start with a process scheduler and go from there.
@MM-so8lc
@MM-so8lc 4 года назад
Even me too have the same thought like you..😃but it's little hard . Yeah it takes years to do that ... But try it! my age is 16 I have some ideas to create all these.. Hmm so yeah I'm from Chennai Tamil Nadu.
@exer6252
@exer6252 2 года назад
It has been one year. How far did you come?
@andrewdeneve7274
@andrewdeneve7274 2 года назад
you may want to start by writing a system in C that can run on x86-64 architecture, that way you don’t have to write your own compiler for your own hardware. Even Terry Davis stuck with x86-64 assembly. It would be quite a feat to take it another level down and make your own architecture.
@analyser295
@analyser295 Год назад
if we use Chatgpt , then maybe we will take less time than other companies.
@lincolnsand5127
@lincolnsand5127 4 года назад
Plenty of other OS's exist besides Windows, Linux, Mac OS, and the BSD's. React OS, Haiku (a derivative of BeOS), and several others. Not to mention the entire community of hobbyist os developers that have created things like Serenity OS. The reason why most people don't use their custom OS as their daily driver is because of the amount os users, lack of features compared to larger OS's, and the lack of software support. It's like game engines, there are several large and well known ones, but many smaller and more niche ones also exist.
@fabian999ification
@fabian999ification 14 дней назад
Building an OS that works with the modern world is kinda like building a city from scratch and expecting it to work. Sure you could make a very simple OS that works standalone with your own software library and hardware specifications, but it's going to be extremely challenging actually getting it to interface everywhere else.
@tux_the_astronaut
@tux_the_astronaut 4 года назад
One of the hard parts about making a custom os is the fact that no programs will wot so it’s probably best to build your kernel of of Linux
@13thk
@13thk 3 года назад
Me: creates a wine inspired piece of sofware embedded in kernel to translate functions and calls *problem fixed
@infiniti2011
@infiniti2011 3 года назад
@@13thk fr? I'd love to take a look at the source code.
@13thk
@13thk 3 года назад
@@infiniti2011 no, I thought about it after seeing the comment, probably possible though
@龗
@龗 2 года назад
@@13thk it might be able to be faster than wine
@龗
@龗 2 года назад
make your OS POSIX compliant port binutils to your OS compile the program problem fixed
@gustavomariz7769
@gustavomariz7769 3 года назад
Dude how does this video only have 36k views was searching people making their own os and only now I understand great videos
@rursus8354
@rursus8354 8 месяцев назад
They do. It's just that you didn't. There are "own" OS:es out there.
@NikodAnimations
@NikodAnimations 3 месяца назад
They are not modern, though.
@kritischparken
@kritischparken 3 месяца назад
mans onto nothing🔥🔥
@davidfrischknecht8261
@davidfrischknecht8261 3 года назад
FYI, the first version of consumer-oriented Windows to be based on the NT kernel was Windows XP. Before that, Microsoft marketed their NT-based OS to businesses and power users and their DOS-based OS to consumers.
@Dani-pl1cv
@Dani-pl1cv 3 года назад
I mean, anything could happen: Linus Torvalds claimed it would just be a hobby on a Minix group, but instead he created something huge, you never know what might arise and what might be made.
@dav1d207
@dav1d207 5 лет назад
original content no one else has explained. Thanks for the explanation. Subbed :)
@JodyBruchon
@JodyBruchon Год назад
No one writes their own OS because no one wants to bleed segmentation faults.
@aaryankumartiwari7376
@aaryankumartiwari7376 Месяц назад
I will
@skymasterptgaming
@skymasterptgaming 6 лет назад
Writing a JARVIS ???? :D would love that!
@ryanilari4254
@ryanilari4254 3 года назад
I’m fifteen and made an OS with a boot loader, interrupts, PIC support, PIT support, exceptions, and support for the CMOS Real Time Clock (RTC)
@XENON2028
@XENON2028 6 месяцев назад
Ok
@smallcube-zn2mm
@smallcube-zn2mm 10 дней назад
I am ten and made and OS with bootloader, PIC, filesystem, support for DirectX and Adobe, has 133 NVidia gpu drivers and 907 different sound card compatibility and can run Linux's libDRM under the hood , has compatibility with both .efl and .exe files
@skypowell7445
@skypowell7445 4 года назад
The thing is I think you could trust your own O.S theoretically like the same way they say "well if you really want to know what's in your food....your going to have to grow/raise it because you see and do it yourself same with cooking, you don't want someone to spit in your food? making it yourself makes sure no one spits or posions it unless you know are into that sort of thing
@datopdlink
@datopdlink 4 года назад
It's a dream for some (like me) who love computers and are interested in Operating Systems. However, to do something on this scale, you need more than just interest. And that is what makes all the difference.
@YASH666-f2m
@YASH666-f2m 10 месяцев назад
How about making a 16-bit or my dream(32-bit) custom pc on logism then write an OS for it.Then you will have a reason and for learining about it I think crash course's Computer science playlist is best
@noahw4623
@noahw4623 2 года назад
I'm writing my own right now lol The goal is to write the core functions of the kernel in C and ASM, just enough to port python over and then write the rest in python because I can Why? Because I can.
@LokeMx
@LokeMx Год назад
Did it go well?
@noahw4623
@noahw4623 Год назад
@@LokeMx Nope :) I'm stuck on the MMU
@LokeMx
@LokeMx Год назад
@@noahw4623 Have u Done much to the Operating system?
@LokeMx
@LokeMx Год назад
@@noahw4623 Make a video abt ur OS
@smallcube-zn2mm
@smallcube-zn2mm 10 дней назад
@@LokeMx maybe he has abandoned his OS project , every hobby OS projects gets abandoned after 2/3 years It's just an inevitable fate
@cessposter
@cessposter 3 года назад
*I will make one. You will not stop me.*
@CybernetonPL
@CybernetonPL Год назад
Write my os from scratch, no Linux basement used.
@huetrashme0947
@huetrashme0947 5 лет назад
why this video only has 585 views?
@Toda_Ciencia
@Toda_Ciencia Год назад
JDH: "Are me a joke for you?"
@procrastinates
@procrastinates 4 года назад
Short answer: It takes a lot of time, effort, motivation, and skill. Long answer: This video.
@tplaysnow
@tplaysnow 6 месяцев назад
I have been writing a 100% python-based OS, obviously besides the kernel. It's an Ubuntu-based kernel that runs a 100% Python-based shell.
@PythonIsGod
@PythonIsGod 9 месяцев назад
I will! Watch and see!
@ConsequenceCode
@ConsequenceCode 3 года назад
But I'm making my own os from scratch using c++, c I have done the bootloader working on kernel and userspace
@georgecop9538
@georgecop9538 8 месяцев назад
Just take a keyboard driver. You don't do inportb(0x60) anymore because PS/2 keyboards are rarely used. Now you need an Xhci driver and pci functionality.
@seanld444
@seanld444 4 года назад
_cries in Terry Davis_
@brdane
@brdane 3 года назад
"Hell no, I'm a white man, I wrote my own phuccing compiler.... The difference between an ameteur and a professional is that you write your own compiler." -Terry Davis, Legend.
@smileynetsmileynet7922
@smileynetsmileynet7922 2 года назад
Because im still working on the language ill write it with!
@MrKahrum
@MrKahrum 4 года назад
Do you have an email i could contact you at? I have an idea i would like some help conceptualizing, and i think that you might have some key insights. Normally i would just ask the question, but i cant think of any useful ones that dont give away a lot of info about my idea
@TechteamGB
@TechteamGB 4 года назад
I'm by no means an expert here, but my email is in the description if you'd like to ask anything!
@prajwalpraja1197
@prajwalpraja1197 3 года назад
he wiggled his body more than my pubg enemy did... lol
@Snikker
@Snikker 9 месяцев назад
This video should be called "Why no one writes their own OS anymore".
@capybararules
@capybararules 20 дней назад
im trying to create my own os cuz idk it sounds fun if u ask me.
@justarandomuser2588
@justarandomuser2588 Год назад
I tried this years ago. I fucked up on the kernel so I got very lazy afterwards. So I stopped.
@danieldurling
@danieldurling 6 лет назад
Great video, loads of information (cheers). Have you heard about RISC-V?
@TechteamGB
@TechteamGB 6 лет назад
Yes, seen linus' video on their custom CPUs to go with the differing instruction set. It's interesting and I'm looking forward to seeing where it heads!
@cartermackenzie1135
@cartermackenzie1135 6 месяцев назад
Couldnt you technically write an OS in Rust, ive seen videos of writing rust to bare metal and was wondering the full extent of what could be done with that
@untoldhorrordude
@untoldhorrordude 4 месяца назад
Redox OS is written entirely in Rust.
@abletheabove1679
@abletheabove1679 Год назад
Hello! There is a large amp of truth to what you say! I’m an exception! I’m building an operating system and have been for a while. Looking to get everything working well. I bet this will get buried but that’s alright!
@andrewchambers8097
@andrewchambers8097 2 года назад
serenity os has entered the chat.
@BigMadOverdose
@BigMadOverdose 4 года назад
i searched for a billion video's just to find a way to get or replicate the Batman V Superman Batman's computer system but i got no leads so i wasted alot of time on figuring out that it's very difficult to do.
@gtigaming3059
@gtigaming3059 4 года назад
Amazing channel! Thanks for the video :)
@Bandcon
@Bandcon 3 года назад
I'm creating one but I'm failing.
@mattdathew2794
@mattdathew2794 3 года назад
thanks, a very great analysis
@luffytaro689
@luffytaro689 2 года назад
I wanna do this just so i can learn from the ground up how os works and i am thinking of making an os which get the most of a GPU and a cpu in terms of ai and ml
@danielniffenegger7698
@danielniffenegger7698 5 месяцев назад
1. Complexity 2. Cost 3. Getting hardware and software vendors onboard 4. Getting enough users 5. Interoperability between OSes 6. Familiar enough UI and not too familiar that you get sued for IP violations 7. Vicious cycle of steps 1 & 2: vendors don’t want to write for an OS no one uses and no one wants to use
@SyedAhmed-lv3kh
@SyedAhmed-lv3kh 3 года назад
Many C devs work on their own OSes everyday, as a hobby. There are many communities out there aswell.
@danielteberian
@danielteberian 3 года назад
Basically, because it's a difficult thing to do. What an astute obsevation.
@homelessrobot
@homelessrobot 3 года назад
First you need to ask why anyone bothers at all. Not just 'why would anyone write their own operating system when others exist', but 'why do they need to exist at all'. Like, why don't people just write programs that talk directly to the hardware without any extra layers of abstraction like an operating system? Then from this foundation, it becomes easier to answer why they are so hard, and why you might want to just skip over all of that work and do something higher level.
@notcool2425
@notcool2425 6 лет назад
Great video!
@ZoeyTheChicken
@ZoeyTheChicken 2 года назад
you need an os to watch this video
@shay3355
@shay3355 4 года назад
Its possible ..its just really time consuming and you need vast knowledge...
@telnobynoyator_6183
@telnobynoyator_6183 5 лет назад
It deserves more views
@user-ge4uk9ui8y
@user-ge4uk9ui8y 4 года назад
complete nonsense you are talking, people do write their own os'es, there's a big community for that. Programs don't go through the os, the os doesn't translate anything, programs always will run if they're compiled for that cpu, bootloader is not really part of the kernel, windows doesn't come from dos (early versions which were just window managers did run on dos or use dos as a bootloader, win 1- win 3, win 95), it runs the NT kernel which was written in early 90s and no it's not any faster and windows 10 in 2019 still runs code from early 90s, microsoft windows is not really closed source, there's the WRK which is a research kernel, it works perfectly fine with windows xp, there's the xbox version of the windows kernel which is leaked and you can compile and run it (also leaked nt 4 and win 2000 files, kernel, fragments of shell and other core programs)
@timeslongpast
@timeslongpast 4 года назад
just to correct ur explanation of windows, Microsoft dropped DOS based windows back with Windows XP, and all their releases have been running of of NT since then
@gladtomeetyou13
@gladtomeetyou13 4 года назад
Great Video!!
@williamclark3671
@williamclark3671 4 года назад
Hi nice video of a building of a operating system dude nice good job!
@trueandbold2162
@trueandbold2162 3 года назад
Hello creating operating systems is not like writing hello world program in apex or Java,its big,so big and also you should know how to access hardware through software program.
@keyserswift5077
@keyserswift5077 2 года назад
So how do I glue windows and Mac os/linux into 1 operating system? Basically Nautilus file system and windows ability to run any program.
@user-cd4bx6uq1y
@user-cd4bx6uq1y Год назад
From Terry Davis
@johnbutt5156
@johnbutt5156 10 месяцев назад
Imna see if I can make my own one anyway. It'll be a great learning experience either way
@thatonescrambler
@thatonescrambler 4 года назад
terry davis
@hav0x420
@hav0x420 3 года назад
Me: currently writing the bootloader for my OS in x86 assembly... This guy: No! STOP! GOD!
@gazehound
@gazehound 2 года назад
andreas kling would like a word
@blackcat-hy1nk
@blackcat-hy1nk 2 года назад
What is your favourite os Windows or mac
@lord-sive
@lord-sive 3 года назад
me 6 minutes into the video: wait what? Ok fine I want write an OS
@buddysnackit1758
@buddysnackit1758 Год назад
Pretty sure you don't need very much assembly language know-how. Just C and the inline assembler within C. This is a subset of assembly and really only to get access to specialized commands.
@kingstewie6436
@kingstewie6436 3 года назад
BEST EXPLANATION ! THANKS .. DO YOU HAVE LINKS LIKE THAT WHERE WE CAN SEE (TOTALLY JUST FOR FUN) THE THOUSANDS OF LINES OF WINDOWS ?? IS WINDOWS WRITTEN IN ASSEMBLY / C WHAT PERCENTAGE ASSEMBLY WHAT PERCENTAGE C ??
@johnodonoghue651
@johnodonoghue651 Год назад
Modern Windows has no code in common with DOS. Windows NT was written in the early nineties.
@mathiasfantoni2458
@mathiasfantoni2458 3 года назад
Is there a community of kernel developers I can join in on? I'm a C/C++ developer and know a little Assembly. I would really like to write a kernel for an ARM processor, and possibly also work on some projects involving RISC-V. Hit me up down below?
@LivingLyfelikeaMuffin
@LivingLyfelikeaMuffin 2 месяца назад
Why? Because its hard. You need to have super deep understanding about how computers work and its little details. You have to write a lot of code in assembly language to be able to talk to the hardware.
@nitroflap
@nitroflap 3 года назад
Well, that's not so much required. And you know, sometimes even linux is feeling bad. So... not recommended, but recommended :D
@user-sn7dw2zi1o
@user-sn7dw2zi1o 3 года назад
This moment when you click on the GitHub links even though you exactly know that you will not understand what you see.😟
@nikos4677
@nikos4677 3 года назад
no they are so easy to read
@dolbyprologicii
@dolbyprologicii 3 года назад
theres a whole community dedicated to writing os as a hobby.. but they are just hobby oses that do not get any traction. theres probably like hundred thousands of different oses if you talk about every known unknown oses in existance.
@Nikage23
@Nikage23 2 года назад
Andreas Kling - *_SerenityOS_* . Never heard of?
@rdoetjes
@rdoetjes 4 года назад
Most Super computers these days run standard operating systems. There’s just an added layer to distribute workloads. The only reason why you’d build an OS (which is a big word) is indeed for embedded systems. You don’t want/need a multitasking operating system with a file system etc in many cases. A state engine based ‘OS’ (like I said, big word). Is all you need to interact with the different functions.
@ronstephen
@ronstephen 3 года назад
What made you think so???
@manou1409
@manou1409 4 года назад
gnome shell is not a command line shell btw, it's the name of the DE afaik
@shauntebogo
@shauntebogo 3 года назад
basically for -security -privacy -robotics -spaces interaction -personalized layers best of the best -ai that does everything speaks to the users of the OS -self AI upgrade or update system -new ways of wireless communication -talking furniture etc.. for example doors -self defense that defend your home while away such a robot door etc...blah blah -i wish i was fast in term of memorizing stuff i would the best ever living being -i can do but i will not able to finish it -basically i saw that people who claim to be smart have no knowledge of what the systems can do -some just claim to be able to do stuff but yet have no clue -on to the subject at hand can make it build spaceships/station/crafts/cars/airplanes/vehicles/heli alot
@deewillerd918
@deewillerd918 3 года назад
simulator emulator launcher theme
@airborepoem2644
@airborepoem2644 2 года назад
Serenity OS devs: hold my beer :v
@onurguzel16
@onurguzel16 4 года назад
Because it is very hard and challenging process to lift up.
@xWatexx
@xWatexx 7 месяцев назад
Because they’re afraid. I have no such weaknesses. (it’s really really really hard and I can’t stop because I’m so far please help)
@blvckbytes7329
@blvckbytes7329 Год назад
SerenityOS: Am I a joke to you?
@NerdsAlert
@NerdsAlert 3 года назад
Me that finished my own os after 5 full years
@corriedebeer799
@corriedebeer799 10 месяцев назад
There are plenty of people writing OS's for embedded systems today. If you write a OS for a specific piece of hardware it is not that complicated.
@bluemodize7718
@bluemodize7718 3 года назад
Honestly because of security
@JoannaHammond
@JoannaHammond 3 года назад
Some of us do!! But we spend a lot of the time pulling our hair out.
@ClaytonMalarkey
@ClaytonMalarkey 4 года назад
can you do a video on antikernels
@newBreedOfInsect
@newBreedOfInsect 3 года назад
I would have written my own os and possibly sold it to people if there was a way to get app developers make apps for the os
@mo-s-
@mo-s- 4 года назад
Is it possible to connect one PC with another PC wich is infected with a virus or doesn't have some files from System32 so you can restore them with PC 1 and delete the virus and clean everything up so you can use PC 2 again?
@TechteamGB
@TechteamGB 4 года назад
Well, you can certainly remove the hard drive from the infected pc and connect it to the other (making sure to boot from the uninfected drive) and either repair it yourself or remove any pictures/documents saved then put it back and reinstall the os.
@kaiyofox
@kaiyofox 3 года назад
. I am making a Os
@solobackpacking
@solobackpacking 3 года назад
"write your own programs" or write a C compiler and compile existing code.
@infiniti2011
@infiniti2011 3 года назад
yeah ig you could do that, but if you wanted to install anything from the web, you'd need the src code, otherwise you'd have to decompile an exe, which you might be able to do, but you'd have to find the right software first. then you'd have to right an efficient c/c++/c# compiler, so it's be a lot more than difficult.
@human-ft3wk
@human-ft3wk 2 года назад
I feel a little cheated. You explained roughly what goes into writing an OS. But didn't explain why no one writes their own OS
@NathanHedglin
@NathanHedglin 2 года назад
Plenty make toy Operating Systems. Making an OS is like making a go kart, not that bad. Making a commercial grade OS is like making a Ferrari yourself, not going to happen.
@danielniffenegger7698
@danielniffenegger7698 5 месяцев назад
Windows hasn’t been built on DOS since 98
@peterparker-fg5kr
@peterparker-fg5kr Год назад
that was before, but now with chatgpt anybody can "write" your own os.
@shawncarpenter5024
@shawncarpenter5024 3 года назад
Why need a reason?...just have a go at it.
@solobackpacking
@solobackpacking 3 года назад
Numerous times in my life I have imagined wrapping my fingers around Bill Gates' neck and squeezing as hard as I could. But never more then when Windows started rebooting on its own after a forced update, despite that I disabled all updates and was working on something when my app quits and the PC reboots.
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