Why Nobody Plays Toons | Yu-Gi-Oh! 

screw the rules I'm illiterate

Lol imagine bringing a triamid deck to playground yugioh

Lol my brothers would often get frustrated if my cards had a dam scroll wheel of text.

too much text, my only weakness

@@mlee4815 "This sign wont stop me cuz i cant read"

Why would I want to play less than 60 cards, I have 60 good cards.

@@MeanderingSlacker TRUE

Based

@@MeanderingSlacker you run less to decrease your bricking odds and get to important one-ofs faster

@@gravethestampede3454 you sound like a man who doesn’t have 60 good cards...

Yeah they only give crazy good effects to anime girl cards 😔 I wish I could use a deck from my childhood like back when Blue eyes was competitive

@@kingkuriboh4528 You mean for that 1 week between a banlist nuking every good deck in preparation for worlds and a set that released new viable archetypes?

@@haruhirogrimgar6047 Lol best week of my life

@Burst Your Bubble It was for a brief time back in 2016.

This is the point where you embrace the crumbleness and try to summon as many Toon Mermaids as possible in one turn

What game is cardians trying to play? Solitaire?

F magic, all my homies hate magic

@@guythat779 Hanafuda, famously Nintendo produced Hanafuda cards at their founding before video games were invented.

Cardians are extremely gimmicky, but once the player has the combo built up, it's really fun to see how it works. It requires a lot of set up.

Toon DMG has Haste then, I guess.

Sounds like a hero.

what a chad

me and that dude would make be great buds. TWO guys playing overpriced decks that barely win!

I'd literally be that guy. I would continue being that guy but the people around where I currently live really hate people like that. Sucks...

I'd be the Yujo friendship to unity to hand pants insert guy for the autowin for those who don't know about the idea acceptance clause.

And that was entirely self-inflicted on Konami's part, in the manga/anime, all Toon World did was give a wonky form of battle protection to your regular monsters (visually represented by them becoming toons). If only they had followed and improved upon that concept instead. Edit: I just realized my last sentence just repeats yours, I'll change it a bit.

They can improve toon, they give toon bookmark but it is stupid ONLY give additional protection for freaking TOON WORLD also its only OPT like WE DONT WANT TO BREAK BAD TOON DECK

To be fair, battle protection was sorta OP back when Toons were first introduced to the game. I mean hell Marshmallon and Spirit Reaper were limited to 1 for a long time solely for that reason

Ge0ew

I'd love for toons to become viable without just using negates, I'd love for Yu Gi Oh to have more than just endless negates and watching your opponent play solitaire for 10 mins straight. We need to get rid of the control meta what's the point of playing if you cannot play to begin with?

That effect alone was enough to make me say I will never use toons.

@@Arak_Drakoniz Well, when you only had 4k LP understandable.

@@XFizzlepop-Berrytwisteven with a full 8k I wouldn’t. Throw in the 500 per attack? Yeah, their effect aren’t all that.

I run precicely zero toon worlds in my toon deck.

Fun thing is: that's the buffed errata'd version (yeah, it got buffed before it even got an English release). It used to have a 500 LP maintenance cost on top of the 1000 LP activation cost (however, you'd get the maintenance cost (not the activation cost though) back in its entirety when it got destroyed). You can see this effect in the very first Yu-Gi-Oh game that used official rules: the GBA game Eternal Duelist Soul (it has the TCG text, but uses the pre-errata OCG effect).

I would love to seen Too HEROes. Like Toon HERO Stratos or Took HERO Neos. If extra deck Toons ever became a thing, then Toons HERO Flame Wingman with the needed Toons HERO fusion monsters would be so much fun.

It take a decade for Konami to create official toon heroes and other archetype relate to toon type like toon magician,toon cyberdragon,toon ancient gear and other type as well.

@@KapuRiki Toon Red Eyed Dark Dargoon can technically happen lol

But considering toons are usually based off consistent DM monsters aside from Ancieny Gear Golem, it wouldn't make sense to add a Stratos with Jaden barely used and is totally apart of its own archetype. It would make more sense for either a Neos and Extra Deck Toon or Sacrifice/relinquished monster. Possibly even a Toon God with more toon spells and traps. But Stratos wouldn't fit he deck. It's like saying give Utopia a Utopic Stratos or Dark Magcian Archetype a Odd-Eyes Dark Magcian.

@@KapuRiki I would 100% play a toon flame wingman deck

Yeah, it's kind of a shame that they were released so early in the game because the anime effects would've been pretty OP back then. These days they could've made them exactly like the anime or possible even stronger and they probably wouldn't be an issue

@@fumoffu_l Owing to the fact that this school was in a third-world country, we didn't exactly get the most up-to-date boosters or decks at the same time they would be released in, say, the US. As such, people were stuck with a rather small pool of cards for a while. At first, you bet that people were just dueling like in the anime, down to using just 2000 life points and all... I should also mention that this was a country where Spanish was the primary language, so this barrier exacerbated the issue of people just... not playing by the official set of rules. That said, we DID grow up with the game, and as time passed, kids came to actually read the card descriptions, and understand the rules of the game... So by the time the game picked up some more steam and more booster packs and decks were released (the Pegasus and Joey decks in this case), there weren't really a whole lot of issues or misunderstandings when it came to card text... Except for maybe Relinquished, which had... a LOT of text for a non-English-speaker to go through... lol

I built my decks from scratch when I was a kid and since we would bet cards I would get even more versatile while everyone else stuck to Kaiba or Yugi base decks cuz thats all they knew. I would never wanna face me on the playground.

"ok so first of all, its because of the RU-vid Algorithm"

Toon deck got me all the way to gold 4 on master duel. I think it’s viable, I’ve taken down some friends with my toon deck IRL even though it’s not even completed yet lol it’s not too bad and it’s slowness is 100% secured if you have the right hand traps and a nibiru

Alsoooo, toon book mark exists, if you instead searched for TBM, instead of thinning the deck with ToC you’d be saving your kingdom by banishing it to grace when it’s targeted for destruction. Gotta have faith :)

@@GIOBLANCO1 bro I need help how fo you get toon cards in master duel

​@@endoesstupidstuff3566 go to your deck and select "change deck" search about toon or anything related and u will find the toon collection but before Provided that you buy the card and you will see a shiny gold key, click on it and it will lead you directly to the collection, but make sure that you have enough resources first

@Cookie monster 20-30 *

I mean, how is it nostalgia bait when Toon decks were around since the very beginning? And always had these problems?

@@horusschnopp1882 Look up the prices of Toon Kingdom, Toon BLS, Toon Bookmark, basically any of the good modern Toon support you need to play the deck.

@Cookie monster Marincess, Paleozoics, Altergeists, Magical Musketeer, True Draco, Shaddolls, Salamangreats, Gren Maju, any Pendulum deck, Graydle Kaiju from what I've seen, Gravekeepers, Zombies, Cyber Dragons, ABCs, Fur Hires, Unchained, Cubics, Subterror, I could go on about what budget decks are out there.

Man you speak the truth. I made a toon deck for duel books and tried to battle with it. I lost so damn badly that, this being my first game and not knowing the rules so I’m not even following the rules, Im still lost. The guy I was against didn’t even tell me I couldn’t just throw out manga ryuran without a tribute. He just saw me using toon cards and was like oh yeah this will be easy.

That's Komoney for ya.

@@BmanTheChamp Which is dumb because that way people go buy from other people instead of them...

It was reprinted in another set like a month later? So who cares.

@@nicoleseraphita7613 it also got an ultimate rare reprint in ots pack.

@@nicoleseraphita7613 It shouldn't have needed an entire nother set. It should've been reprinted right then and there. That was the point. It's always the bad decks they wanna do this with too. Never the good

They need to be able to swarm and or have a pricey, easy to out option to remove the summoning sickness

@@maxcrss2845 Or they just need REALLY strong control options that can shut down the opponent long enough to attack directly.

Toon fans would probably spit and sneer at the idea.

Toon pends that count as toon world or did good toon support would be awesome

@@user-lg5xu6id5j Toon Dark Artist/Pain Painter and Toon Castle of Illusions as pendulum ideas. They can bring only Toon Monsters, act as Toon World or special activate a Toon World and give it a nice protection effect without being that broken. Also, side note, they missed the opportunity to create a card that help toons called Industrial Illusions (Pegasus' company).

Toons are fun and dumb. Great for Messing around with shenanigans, ~crap~ for tournaments and the like.

A lot of competitive decks are boring to play so when I play with friends I break out my casual stuff

Everybody wants the cards, but nobody wants to use them.

Alot of the toon cards are so expensive

@@princenoreally why are they expensive

@@ZidaneTribal93 no clue

There lot like whole new type of cards Konami recently add for old archetype.

with the exceptions of Manga Ryu-Ran (part of the archetype) and Toon Alligator (not part of the archetype)

@@AnRuixuan Manga Ryu-Ran is literally called Toon Dragon Egger in Japan, it's english name is just a tcg fuck up

There was no such thing as archetypes when Toons were first a thing.

Toon isn’t a type it’s a class like union spirit and tuner

@@AnRuixuan Toon Alligator is part of the archetype because it has "Toon" in its name. However, most Toon support cards only affect those monsters with the ability Toon, that is between brackets. The only cards that support Toon Alligator are Toon Table of Contents and Toon Dark Magician.

Yugi would get absolutely Stomped in any real world tournament because of this. A ton of random Goodstuff and big flashy creatures, with very little synergy. Dude runs cards he literally Cannot play unless he's playing with Joey. It looks cool when he throws out some super-specific counter card, but IRL, that just won't happen enough for it to matter.

@@steeveedragoon the need to reveal is implied. otherwise anyone could just go to a tournament and say they drew exodia

@@steeveedragoon No, it's actually the opposite. The Konami real life imitation of the Duel Monsters card game can make the anime card game look more boring than it was ever supposed to be. The real life card game is a pale imitation of a great idea. Of course, as with every card game in real life, everyone eventually optimizes their decks to the point where everyone plays the same few strategies, and the game becomes less about creativity, and more about learning and copying everyone else. A meta is then created within the game itself, and the original beauty of the game becomes lost. How many Yugioh cards that were really cool in the anime ended up being useless in the Konami card game? Everyone uses the same few cards, and the game has become so much more bloated than ever before. To me the game was at it's best back in 2004-2008, but it even had a very complex meta back then as well. The game, and the shows should have stopped after GX. The anime is how the card game was supposed to be played, but as with everything in the real world, people would rather win than experiment, and it can be frustrating to try something that doesn't work consistently. I would do anything for the game to be more like the anime, and for cards to actually be hard to come by so not everyone could acquire certain cards. I don't even compare the real life Yugioh card game to the anime/manga, because it's not the same game. I hate when people put the two games in the same category, and criticize the anime's characters because they don't play the same boring meta that we do in real life.

@@donavonhoward114 This was compounded by how Konami started to race heavily towards embracing the archetype format and adding way too many game (summoning) mechanics. The power creep just made the meta-optimization worse.

@@donavonhoward114 Half of what you said has been debunked by so many content creators (including the maker of this video). You state 2004-2008 as the best time of the game. Meanwhile, that's the time when Dark Armed Dragon was required to even win a single round at a regional. The meta back then was much more restrictive. I don't play much anymore, and 2003-2005 was when most of my playing happened. At my locals, almost everyone ran the same beat down strategy. There was no deck variety until me and a single other person shook it up. Also you're very very wrong if you think copying a deck means you can pilot it. On top of that, the people winning large scale tournaments aren't net decking. They are creating the net decks. You'll see the same deck types, but you won't see the same exact deck list when you get to top 8 or top 16. During 2004-2008 there would be maybe 5 decks that were even good enough to be considered rouge. Now we usually see 2-3 tier 1 decks, 2-3 tier 2, and 5-6 Rogue strategies. The variety is much larger, because Konami actively creates archetypes with intended synergy. Also "The anime was how the card game was supposed to be played" Is that way they play with 2000 LP? Is that why they don't have to tribute summon? Is that why they can play trap cards from their hands? TLDR; Almost everything you said is wrong; and you clearly just liked the game better when you were a kid, because you were a kid.

No one is asking for Konami to make Toons Meta/Competitive, poeple are just asking to make then deck somewhat playable against good decks

Don't hold your breath. Even after a pack called "Toon Chaos" was released, the deck is still bad.

I use ancient gear cards with toon cards lol ancient gear dragon is pretty good at defending toon kingdom with its quick effect to negate spell/trap or card effects once per turn monsters like that will help out alot. And with a few terror kingdoms. Basically. Just kind of dont fully rely on a whole toon deck have enough to be able to get around and make sure u have enough protection on the field before even activating toon world/kingdom. Just have to be able to accept the gamble and be able to take loses if u lose because you lose your toon world and all toon monsters. But i mean shit when you do get a victory it feels pretty damn good 😂

I think it should be protected from destruction AND banishing by discarding a normal card from your hand, even not a toon (once per turn). It could be still sent to the deck or GY, or returned to the hand

I like that, "TOONers". 😁

I Think that's the biggest problem. Sure you can search out a decent toon monster while also thinning the deck by 6-7 cards, but the result is a single monster on the field. And no Toon Kingdom, or no Toons in hand to tribute with, you may not even be able to play that card. And even if you can, any other archetype is going to combo, and build a much stronger board using the extra deck, and all you have is a single toon monster that took 6 cards to get, is dependent on a field card with no protections staying in play, and isn't hard to run over with most extra deck monsters. There's no combo potential. There's no good strategy. I'd wager even a less than perfect Ice Barrier deck would easily beat out toons. It just can't go anywhere.

@@fumoffu_l actually what this results in is a group of monsters who can all still be affected by all toon spells/traps, no summoning sickness AND it stops your opponent playing through SD. Its not meta or anything but for semi comp play is more then serviceable

That’s exactly what they need

Malefics: Am I a joke to you?

@@8bitdiedie Yes. You and your Malefic House.

Or normal

I use toons btw with Pegasus 🤙🏽

Or extra deck like toon elemental hero flame wing man and toon stardust dragon

@@Deathmare235 The joke with the Toon Reboot thing was to bring back dead cartoons in a modern era.

Toon Jinzo is a very cool Idea. Maybe a Toon Gaia, the fierce Knight. Toon-Relinquished is a pretty good Idea too, but...its own Archetype isnt very strong and...it needs help itself. Maybe the Toon Archetype needs a Toon Gilford, the lightning, If it gets summoned as long as Toon-World is on the Field, destroy all Monsters on the opponents side of the field.

@@crestfallenwarrior5719 those ideas are very cool too!

At least Malefics can run multiple Field Spells, since a lot of them work with any Field Spell (Only Paradox and Paradigm Dragon require Malefic World). Heck, they can even work if the opponent controls a Field Spell while you don't. I feel like they offer more protection to their Field Spells than Toons do as well, via Malefic Stardust Dragon and Malefic Territory.

@@diamondsanchez224 I respect that point and I thought of those too when I played the deck. It's just that without a field spell, they literally cannot exist. Most Toons can still be played even if you dont have Toon World. I get your point, although I definitely don't enjoy that the gear monsters cant search Malefic World or anything Edit: Skill Drain is the 4th copy of Malefic World lmao

@@RayneDeoman That's true, and your points have been quite fair as well. I've seen Malefics also run with Necrovalley, as to lockdown the opponent while keeping the Malefics on the field. I've also seen them run with Mystic Mine, since you usually won't have more than one or two monsters on the field at once, and Stardust Dragon can protect Mystic Mine. I think Malefics can be pretty cool when run as a control deck. Definitely not an amazing deck but I do think they're better than Toons. Lol.

@@diamondsanchez224 I really appreciate the feedback, I love discussions on this game. I agree with you there. I still believe that Malefics are more field spell reliant because of the whole, they cannot exist with them schtick, but they definitely are better than Toons for sure. Although I would say that if you believe that since they require a specific field spell(Toon World and Toon World Accessories) that they are the most field spell reliant archetype, you are completely right. I'm viewing it from the necessity to exist standpoint, but the necessity to function is just as valid. Regardless, I hope they actually make Toons better though since they technically are a card specification like Geminis are. I think different Toon variants would be cool too. It wont happen though :(

hey malefic was my favorite on the 5D's games, permanent speed world on turbo duel broke them in that game lmao but yeah, they are sad in the real game

That card sucks a massive dck it actually makes me sad 😔

Chaos is easy to summon with necro fusion but not worth the extra deck space

It does have a restriction. You can't summon it without Toon World. I get this was a joke comment. But the only positive to her was not having to tribute.

And the king of games is playing mushroom man

So terrible he kicked the World Champion's ass. (Yeah, I know, he used weird magical glowy eye powers)