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Annie Rauwerda (@depthsofwiki on Twitter), J. Draper and Geoff Marshall face a question about a mispriced mobile.
LATERAL is a weekly podcast about interesting questions and even more interesting answers, hosted by Tom Scott. For business enquiries, contestant appearances or question submissions, visit www.lateralcas...
GUESTS:
Annie Rauwerda: / depthsofwiki
J. Draper: ‪@JDraper‬ / jdraperlondon
Geoff Marshall: ‪@geofftech2‬ / geofftech
HOST: Tom Scott.
QUESTION PRODUCER: David Bodycombe.
RECORDED AT: The Podcast Studios, Dublin.
EDITED BY: Julie Hassett.
GRAPHICS: Chris Hanel at Support Class. Assistant: Dillon Pentz.
MUSIC: Karl-Ola Kjellholm ('Private Detective'/'Agrumes', courtesy of epidemicsound.com).
FORMAT: Pad 26 Limited/Labyrinth Games Ltd.
EXECUTIVE PRODUCERS: David Bodycombe and Tom Scott.
© Pad 26 Limited (www.pad26.com) / Labyrinth Games Ltd. 2023.

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26 сен 2024

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@cheeseninja1115 Год назад

Just to make Tom feel even older. People born in 2005 can now vote this year

@hairyneil Год назад

2007 in Scotland!

@johnbee7729 Год назад

Heck, that ain't old - I am still trying to figure out what Flappy Bird is.

@PouLS Год назад

People born in 2007 can vote this year too.

@route2070 Год назад

Or that in the US, they can tell you are of drinking age just by seeing your birth year starts with a 19.

@singerofsongs468 Год назад

@@route2070You’re a few years off for that one! I was born in 2000, which gave me the extra gift of an entire years’ worth of alarmed cashiers handing me back my ID lol

@ch48_ Год назад

I love how every time Emojli comes up Tom just says "NEVER BUILD AN APP" like an automated response. I mean, to be fair, it's a good automated response

@sponge1234ify 10 месяцев назад

"Hello, this is your automated build-an-app response; 'NEVER BUILD AN APP'. Good day!"

@hcblue Год назад

The way Annie checked for the answer at the beginning ("does it have to do with an app?") was kind of perfect. It didn't give away the answer, but at the same time, it confirmed my suspicion that I, too, knew the answer.

@romainsavioz5466 Год назад

And they didn't get it from that clue

@PassiveDestroyer Год назад

Yeah, me too. It brought back all of the memories of people getting swept up by it.

@stevezpj Год назад

I thought it was Flappy Bird straight away but also thought "there was no way that was 9 years ago!!" as I remember my panic to get it downloaded and backed up before it was taken down :D

@emdivine Год назад

@@stevezpj Ah so I take it you forgot to account for the time hole in between known as covid

@stevezpj Год назад

@@emdivine I don't think I have the same time hole most people do since COVID hardly changed anything for me. I've had to come into the office every single day, regardless, due to working on a key network that can only be accessed from specific secured locations :(

@JoeBleasdaleReal Год назад

I can attest to Annie’s comment about this being a traumatic event. I was 16 at the time - it was like a disease, people turned into monsters, constantly trying to one-up each other at all cost. I fell out with so many friends over that stupid game, but we can laugh about it now 😂 Not too delighted that means Tom would consider me a “little ruddy whippersnapper” but there you go

@IceMetalPunk 8 месяцев назад

@@kg4wwn I think you may have met my 17-year-old nephew, because you sound just like him when he talks to me 😒

@foogriffy 20 часов назад

@@IceMetalPunk i was 17 at the time. my high score was over 500

@Megan4434 Год назад

Request for Tom and crew: Could you put what episode number each clip is from please? Some older episodes reference non-RU-vid clips and there’s no easy way to find the exact episode

@karolispigaga8219 Год назад

As soon as Annie said about the limited app, i knew what is the reason. great video as always Tom!

@punor Год назад

i thought this was about the i am rich app because that cost a thousand dollars too as i remember

@packradtpackradt4581 Год назад

I'm listening to it in real time; I sit this out and remember like it was yesterday.

@bjmand6236 Год назад

I knew what it was about when i read the title xD or at least was pretty sure

@Winchestersammy11 Год назад

I literally yelled, “Flappy Bird!” at the kitchen table. Admittedly, it did take me a few seconds, but Annie’s mentioning of “apps” near the start of the video made my pupils dilate. XDXDXD

@WillBinge Год назад

Same, it was the same thing for me and the elevator one a few weeks ago

@Bomsanchu 2 месяца назад

exactly the same, I came down to the comments after 2 minutes of watching to check if someone else came to the same conclusion this fast

@mowkikowski Год назад

really enjoyed how tom illustrated how old he felt with an allusion from the 80s

@brssnkl Год назад

I would have said "Were these phones used but not reset before being sold" to not give too much away but it's easy when you are not in a live show :D

@lordtraust Год назад

The look on Annie's face when she hears the highest score is priceless

@narfharder Год назад

Over nine thousand!!!

@hebl47 Год назад

7:54 Tom wondering whether this is still Lateral or is he back on Technical Difficulties. Because he's used to getting this kind of shade thrown at him from Gary, but not here.

@Epinardscaramel Год назад

“I’m sorry this is how you had to find out!” 🤣🤣🤣

@hadinossanosam4459 Год назад

Alternate title: "I regret being the host of this, Episode 2" xD

@CatherineKimport Год назад

As soon as I saw the title my first thought was "oh my god that's gotta be that [SPOILER, CORRECT ANSWER] thing..."

@MarylandFarmer. Год назад

Tom isn't the only one who aged rapidly at the end. I felt it too

@blindleader42 Год назад

As a late adopter (first mobile phone 2017), I've never heard of Flappy Bird. After hearing this edition of Lateral, I've _still_ never heard of Flappy Bird. edit: speaking of old age (I think). re: the opening question of the podcast: I've never been a musician, took some piano lessons before the first electronic piano was invented, So how is it that I looked down at my qwerty for about three seconds and said "F#".

@beth12svist Год назад

I've had mobile phones for a while, but got my first smartphone I think at the end of 2015, which means apps before that passed me by. And they still kind of do. Never heard of it, either, and much like you, I still don't know what it is. 😁

@narfharder Год назад

I waited for somebody to _pitch_ in "G flat".

@lastnamefirstname8655 Год назад

i'm so glad i knew of this as well. it was so well known before, and when it disappeared, those that still had it became so valuable. even if nowadays there are so many similar/ripoff games, it's still played so much everywhere amongst the matching generations.

@MyRegardsToTheDodo Год назад

Good old Flappy Bird. I am 46 seconds into the video and basically knew the answer (I hope the rest of the video doesn't prove me wrong). He could have used PS4s for the question too (they exploded in value once Konami removed the PT demo from the store). But I am actually surprised this was in 2014, I hadn't expected it to be that long ago.

@wooper4000 Месяц назад

Knew 100% this was the Flappy Bird craze from the first reading of the question.

@random832 Год назад

I have Flappy Bird in my google account and it follows me to each new phone, did the Apple side not get that, and it's just tied to physical devices from that era only?

@2tri749 Год назад

I've heard of this before, so I was familiar with it and got it once the question was read out. Excellent question Tom!

@TheDisplacerBeast Год назад

Its like the ps4s they sold with PT

@SakamotoIbuki 5 месяцев назад

It’s funny how quickly I got this just from the question alone, but to discover that it was 2014… I’m starting to feel my age

@singerofsongs468 Год назад

Oh man, I knew this one from the thumbnail question. I too was the perfect age to have experienced this event, and the other commenters describing the fallout pretty much nailed it. I remember in the wake of that app, the new obsession at my school became a game called Crossy Road(?) which was like infinite frogger. I also have been unable to get rid of the U2 album. I _hate_ that album. I don’t want to talk about it. Thinking about it actually ruins my whole mood.

@VinnieBartilucci 8 месяцев назад

Wow, I realized the answer like a PTSD flashback.

@nate_storm 2 месяца назад

as soon as she said it’s about an app, i got it

@cheetahman79 Год назад

Fun fact, blooket has flappy bird on it as the pre game distraction

@davidmillen7584 10 месяцев назад

Paused at 44 seconds... thinking its Flappy Bird preinstalled before it was taken off the store by it's creator.

@dragonslayer050819 Год назад

I totally did not need this to tell me that I'm old and flappy bird was almost a decade ago

@bertt646 Год назад

This also happened with playstation 4 when PT was removed from the store.

@jpe1 Год назад

So many of the Lateral questions seem to me to be trivial, things that _everybody_ should know, this is the first one where I had absolutely no idea, and yet, based on the comments, lots of people knew this one. 🤔

@UnknowinglyDerpy Год назад

Dont be too hung up about pieces of trivia like this, not everyone has to know everything about everything

@IguanoTwix6942 9 месяцев назад

The moment he said "It became unavailable after 2014" I knew what it was

@walker1054 Год назад

I know the answer too and Annie decided to give the biggest hint ever within the first few seconds to the others lol. Suprised to see theres still another 7 mins of the video after that. The same happened with Playstation 3s with a discontinued game demo called PT after it got pulled because of some shinanigans

@FrostyButter Год назад

If only the inventor of TikTok felt the same way about an addictive product causing harm 😩

@klassmagicker Год назад

I don't think it's even possible at this point. Flappy Bird was made by one person (Nguyễn Hà Đông) so he has all the executive power to just take it down whenever he pleases. And good for him for having a conscience and not letting greed get in the way. But Tiktok is massive. It's an entire corporation. Even if every single employee of Tiktok became guilty, I don't think they'd take it down.

@jfb- Год назад

that's the goal

@Orthus100 Год назад

Instantly got it, that stupid game was huge.

@edwardw92 Год назад

I believe Geoff was referring to Virtu, the luxury sub-brand that Nokia owned for a few years.

@Lilly-Gorney Год назад

i knew this as soon as i saw february 2014. i was also in the perfect age range to know this

@samtherat6 Год назад

Thinking I remember this one, but was this right after Flappy Bird was removed from the App Store?

@Devieus Год назад

Well, I got this one right away before the question was finished. It's pretty nuts, and it's not just limited to phones either, playstation consoles with the P.T. demo installed on it go for just as much.

@OblivionWonderlust Год назад

It took me 2 seconds to realise its flappybird

@jblen 8 месяцев назад

My answer was that the ebay phones were sim free while the regular phones were "free" but with a set sim deal that pays back the phone price over time like you often see for modern phones. Which I guess isnt technically identical but I think it counts as a solution because the sim is not the phone

@IceMetalPunk 8 месяцев назад

When Flappy Bird became popular, I immediately made a clone called Flappy Bat. It was basically identical, but with a bat-in-the-forest theme to the assets. But since I didn't want to pay to put it on any app store (and I still don't want to for anything), you had to sideload it onto Android devices. It was the only app I've ever advertised with RU-vid interstitials, despite me giving it away for free. I used to say I would update it with power-ups or something, but never did. I was 24 at the time. Young Annie can go... sit in time out, or whatever it is children do these days when they make people feel old 😂

@samguillen4529 Год назад

I used to do AQA - Any Question Answered - for a while. Where people would text in questions, and I’d type the answer. Easiest work ever!

@doc8186 Год назад

knew this IMMEDIATELY

@milkycowboy Год назад

HI OMG AUGUST SAPPHO HERE I ASKED THIS QUESTION IM SO HYPED MY HEART JOLTED WHEN U HEARD MY NAME CALLED OUT WHILE LISTENING ON SPOTIFY

@pyrobryan Год назад

I think this was the first question I knew immediately with zero doubt.

@Quasihamster Год назад

"It's something you either remember the news story about, or you don't." Yeah that's the two options, I guess! :D

@Yamzstoned Год назад

initial guess from the title is flappy bird, perfect question for the older generation I think it’s a very topical one

@milkycowboy 9 месяцев назад

i find this very funny considering i myself am gen z (i submitted the question) and sorta play tested it with my classmates (alongside many others) to determine which were good enough to send off lol.

@anishbhadra4441 Год назад

the first one that i’ve gotten right from the beginning. knew it

@hummingmostbird Год назад

The moment he said 2014 I knew it

@zacm.2342 Год назад

..Oh I got it as soon as she said "an app".

@la_sasha Год назад

they had Flappy Bird I'm calling it 0:30

@Fairyslash Год назад

my first thought was flappy bird. now time to watch it... yup, was right

@deebea6364 Год назад

My first instinct was… Flappy birds?

@Kumimono Год назад

I read the title without the question in the episode, and thought, oh, Flappy Bird.

@Perfectkid197 Год назад

so glad tom get get rid of his iron lung now

@vetleallum2965 Год назад

I figured out the answer as soon as Tom mentioned that it wasnt originally limited edition..😊

@nialltracey2599 2 месяца назад

I can't be bothered watching because I'm certain I know it. Lateral has truly jumped the shark

@nialltracey2599 2 месяца назад

Just Googled and I'm pretty confident that I'm right.

@luxgracetail4599 Год назад

Got it after the discussion at 3:28-ish

@nfcopier1 Год назад

Wait, the Beetles split up?! Why did nobody tell me this?!

@beth12svist Год назад

In their case, it's spelled Beatles, which was a pun.

@oevers Год назад

It's so funny that some people actually pay that much for it if you can just jailbreak your iPhone to install it. On Android its even easier because Sideloading is a native feature.

@ALFIE19 Год назад

i contemplated selling my ipod touch when this happened

@x9x9x9x9x9 Год назад

I think its kinda sad i knew immediately what the answer was once Tom read it off. Actually because of the flappy bord incident anytime some weird free app starts blowing up. I download it on my main phone and back up just in case its a repeat scenario and I want some money.

@Archgeek0 Год назад

Jenny must be _terrifyingly_ strong to just huck an iron lung out the window like that. XD

@Ghiaman1334 Год назад

Oh I thought it was that stupid app that cost an ungodly amount just to say 'I Am Rich' or whatever, but then why would you buy the app to sell the phone at a higher price, lol

@Joeseanag24 Год назад

Flappy Bird was a monumental event in our lives, and it was sadly cut short all too soon

@sandrosaxel Год назад

At first I thought this was about nokia 1100, which hackers used to intercept banking transactions

@jamietherelentless2670 10 месяцев назад

I said flappy bird to myself immediately after hearinf it was about an app, glad I was right lmao

@dcltdw Год назад

Okay, the outtakes compilation of "guests yanking Tom's chain": when does that come out? :D

@rollingtroll Год назад

*yells flappy bird immediately while taking a shower* :D. This was an instant 'oh I know this one' for me. They were more common in the beginning, this stuff is getting harder!

@PianoKwanMan Год назад

I thought it was the game where you jump up as far as you can. Doodleboog or something Also, the ending is like Technical Difficulties winding Tom up

@woodfur00 Год назад

Doodle Jump

@KingKool2099 Год назад

Knew this one right from the question, no doubt in my mind. I just can't believe it was actually that long ago.

@sterben_1647 Год назад

I thought of Flappy Bird's cause of removal was for copyright issues. Damn, Dong Nguyen do be responsible. 😮😮😮

@thardin1719 Год назад

I know someone who still has flappy bird on their phone. It doesn’t work (since they’ve gotten a new phone since 2014) but the icon is still on their phone and they refuse to delete it

@ymmc Год назад

I had flappy bird on my ipod and my classmates deleted it when I wasn't looking :)))))

@sio2y Год назад

Got it the second that Annie said it was an app.

@torche72 Год назад

This is the first I've heard of this app.

@kunaljt Год назад

Knew the answer immediately haha, Flappy Bird was a phenomenon!

@koacado Год назад

I still have it on my phone

@jaymo9919 Год назад

The moment I saw the video I thought of flappy bird.

@10thdoctor15 Год назад

Never heard of flappy bird, and I was 17 in 2014.

@sirprintalot 8 месяцев назад

wait I think my old iPad still has Flappy Bird on it...

@CollinCountyRailfan Год назад

This made me laugh so hard lol, i was screaming flappy bird the whole time

@R2Y2V2 Год назад

I knew the answer just from the title, lol. I never even played the game

@fredoverflow Год назад

0:50 I can see the "Blue" logo on the front of the microphone 😥 She is speaking into the _back_ of the microphone. The "Blue" logo is supposed to face the _speaker_ for optimal audio quality (and you should select the heart-shaped "cardioid" pickup pattern).

@johnprocrastinator Год назад

It's gotta be.. they have flappy bird installed

@GCAbleism158 Год назад

I agree.

@edgarleft Год назад

My first guess was a phone that used to be from a celebrity. My guess at 1:33 Is a phone with Flappy Bird on it after it was banned.

@kanedaku Год назад

Flappy Bird. I never got if they would work properly on iOS, as when you sign out of your Apple ID apps wont work. Did the buyers continue to use the sellers ID?

@Randroth 4 месяца назад

haha this is one of the few answers I knew straight away, and I never even played that game

@maruftim Год назад

WHAT?? it was 9 years ago??? and the original Flappy Bird were gone????

@Abstract_zx Год назад

i guarantee you almost everyone under 30 got this instantly

@CwMGameplays Год назад

Knew it as soon as I saw the thumbnail and title lol I remember this being the big thing in middle school

@ethangrossi2286 Год назад

I still have an iPod touch that has it on it haha

@tonypang83 Год назад

Damn... nearly ten years ago. Similar to that PS4 and PT situation

@hexandcube 9 месяцев назад

I knew the answer before I even clicked on the video, and I'm not sure if that's a good thing or not

@jay-tbl 7 месяцев назад

guessing its that they still have flappy bird

@munjee2 Год назад

Of course, _this_ is the only one I know just from the title ...

@behramcooper3691 Год назад

But that would mean the seller had to give away his whole apple or gmail account with the phone. I don't understand.

@Pikachu0071000CS Год назад

How do you remove that U2 album and where is that link?

@Heisenberdy 10 месяцев назад

If i was in this episode myself i would immediately tell tom i would have to sit this one out because i myself sold one of those phones with the app still on it I'm being vague not to spoil for people reading the comments early on in the video