Why Overwatch's PvE Failed 

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dam this gonna be a sad video 🤕🤕

Did you guys know the reason Reaper is in constant pain is because of the cancelled PvE?

I've only been playing overwatch for about a 5 months, but the thought of how great this game could have been made me cry

so much potential lost to so little care from money hungry devs. a netflix series or or feature length film would be amazing

We had as much PvE in OW 1 than we have in 2

maybe the PVE was the friends we made along the way

its sad thinking about what overwatch could’ve been. not like it still isn’t a good game, but it could’ve been so much better.. all that impactful and suspenseful story just for a shitty pve

Telling people why the PvE failed without even mentioning the state ActiBlizz was in with Bobby Kotick in control and how it affected the OW Team is leaving half of the story untold. There are several accounts about how Kotick would sabotage the OW team during the hiatus and basically left the team and game to rot.

I'm honestly more heartbroken than anything about the death of lore alongside the PvE. They're throwing away so much potential by not creating a tv show. As a side note, I actually LOVED Underworld. I wish they would bring it back. I also LOVED Cosmic Crisis, so I'm excited AF for it to return for the anniversary

9:09 you read my mind the reason why I want to retribution back I want to play us Mauga against a heavy assault see who is actually better

My guy your eyes are so big and beautifuuull 😍

I don't even need to watch this to feel overwhelmingly sad. I fell in love with Overwatch because of the lore and characters and prayed for years for a story campaign that would move both of them forward to eventually come out, but ever since PvE got cancelled I just feel broken. There was so, SO much potential for amazing stories to be told ingame or through an animated Netflix series in the same vein as Arcane, but the devs are simply too greedy to even consider it.

It really is a sad shame what they did....No reason to not bring back Retribution and the others. I mean if they're not going to do new stuff anytime soon if ever, at least give us what was already created. I don't play comp and if I do it's casual so I can learn and rank, but even then I haven't touched comp in maybe close to a year. PVE does interest me very much as a break to quick play and the arcade offerings. I think it's crazy how so many players out there DO want PVE and missions like that, but Blizzard says no one is interested. I want to know who no one is? Everyone I talk to and even in my group on Facebook all say we wish this was back etc....Events aren't fun anymore. Nothing is new and nothing to get hyped about. Even now with the "anniversary" going on it's still VERY crappy. No good offerings, no bringing back the past, nothing. The opening splash screen is great with all the heroes, but why not bring back the classic OW music??? I HATE the bland dull sound that start up brings. Bland opening to me only foreshadows what's coming ahead....bland.

“GOOD CONTENT RELEASING CONSISTENTLY” that’s the funniest joke I’ve heard all year…

They could have just released the lines of dialogue and lore when pve was cancelled but they didn’t.

Why can't they just let us play the past PVE stuff :( OW just big and greedy

BATTLEBORN SPOTTED! God, I loved that game. I just don't like games that have no PvE options - PvE's where I go to warm up before PvP and relax if things start getting too sweaty. If there's no PvE, it's way harder to start playing and I leave way sooner. I played both Overwatch and Battleborn when they launched, and I gotta say, Battleborn was my favorite and it wasn't even close.

gothenburg was a 2cp map, when the mode got removed the map did as well, maybe it can come back as a clash map but i dont trust

I really think the campaign would've done just fine if it wasn't released in the context of being released after a full year of the game just nuking its reputations in tiny episodes that are only available for purchase in a cosmetics bundle. Like the gameplay wasn't revolutionary but I was under the impression that these missions were mostly centered around experiencing the story and the cancelled "hero missions" were supposed to be where you go for the meaty gameplay

I’m curious what this good content is that you speak of. Cause we’ve literally just gotten new heroes ( no brainer ), new maps ( no brainer ) and collab skins. We’ve gotten the bare minimum when it comes to this game. Overwatch has become a skin shop first and a game second.

i hope they using those effort to make a tv series for OW since thier team already can make so stuning animation short i like PVE mission with dialog fill me up with the lore in that, but the gameplay just so boring and can't even replay able if is not for the achivement

I have been playing this game since the beta. It will always have a special place in my heart. All the good and bad memories. All the hours playing with friends and sweating in comp, but ow2 just isnt the same game anymore. Its honestly been a let down since its been out. Just doesn't have that same spark. Regardless I will always play the game until it eventually dies but just wish we can go back to 2017 ow.

What happened to that huge beta map called Atlantis???

Bring back junken Stein's Revenge

If there was one thing about the PVE i did NOT LIKE, it was how the only way things got difficult was when everything turned into 5000 hp bullet sponges. It killed the power fantasy of the heroes and it made even the most powerful characters feel like they did lackluster damage. obviously killing bots isnt gonna be the same as players, but players had just the right amount of durability and damage to feel threatening but rewarding to kill.

It feels like they are throwing ideas at the wall and seeing what sticks which would be great if it wasn’t coming from a AAA gaming company. And star watch was disappointing as well.

This hurts the game when it was completely cancelled and decisions like this can kill the game

I dont get why they don't revive the archive events. They're fun and can even sell skins. Ideally you EARN them but whatever.

10:19 Very minor correction but u hadn’t seen it mentioned yet. If I recall Sojurn was shown way back during the recall as she had been a rather old design for the game

I hope they bring back some of the old PVE, especially the archive missions; they were so fun

21:51 a map we want but they will not give us and it’s not because it’s Sweden where I’m from don’t be silly now 😅😅😅

feel like they couldve made a separate pve thing with the knock off star wars

OW2's content is just skins. Nothing interesting or unique has been released.

amazing video as always, ps i loved the stream earlier, i love little slice of life streams where people can chill and talk. and remember, do not fall to chaos and become a heretic

may I say this man is pretty asf, looking at him was a delight

The PVE would’ve been fire if Bobby didn’t ruin Blizzard 🙏

Because Blizzard doesn't care.

because they cancelled it before they even started it enough said

Looking back, Jeff really bit off more than he can chew and the management above him didn’t support him. Should’ve just let OW1 grow without PVE. I never felt OW needed PVE cause of the events. The missions were boring imo.

Ya people are whining about no pve they're called losers. Im just happy, the less time they waste on pve the more they'll have for pvp balances, maps, game modes and heroes. Ow is not a pve game should never have tried to be. Pve has only hurt Ow and again I'm glad it's gone

The death of OW PvE is the single most depressing gaming event I’ve experienced I think. Not just because we’ve lost PvE but pretty much all OW lore now. It’s just a shooter. Oh well…

The game's already dead to me, they're just milking it for as long as they can. There's still some of the execs that Bobby Kotick appointed at Blizzard who are still probably preventing Overwatch from being what Jeff Kaplan wanted for it

Overwatch really makes me cry. This is an amazing world with amazing characters with a tagline about heroes and being heroes yet the entire game is a bunch of ppl who are suppose to be saving the fucking world..... Fighting over spots in a map or picking a cart from one side of the map to the other. This is why I've gained such a distain for pvp as a whole. I seriously didn't hate pvp in the past because cod is a boring military game and games like it don't interest me overall. Now though we have so many great idea and premises like overwatch, valorant, apex the list goes on where these amazing characters with histories, friendships, dreams, etc that get made just so they can exist in an endless deathmatch. It pisses me off that this is continually done and ppl accept lore and cinematics and skins as a consolation prize. Why should devs like Blizzard care to make an actual game where something is ACTUALLY DONE with these characters when they can lie and break promises, have the playerbase dog them for a couple months, then go back to business as usual.

It pains me to think about all the PvE controversy again but there isn’t much I or any of us can do about it. I do still hope that a tv show or something similar could be made with the signature overwatch style that continues and finishes the planned story. Also fun fact, if you can somehow break into the area on kings row where Underworld takes place, the entire area has collision with a few black voids scattered about. There are custom game codes that allow this and I think it’s odd but cool that these areas, despite being unreachable, still have areas to walk much like on many maps such as kings row with the main one being the flat top next to Big Ben/the clock tower

To be honest gameplay wise Retribution and Storm rising are very bad. On a higher difficulty enemies just become extremely tanky and there are no mechanics in missions there specifically these heroes's abilities would be used. In contrast to JR and Uprising they are bad

the worst part was that they SOLD the pve gamemode before cancelling it in a stupid bundle that i bought and now i have the clown sombra skin to remind me that i wasted money on that shit(and didn't even got the released missions on the bundle btw)

I really miss the diablo event. It was super fun. If the story missions were more like it they would have sold better

Thank you for the video. I tell anyone any chance I get that I will never not be mad about Blizz cancelling PvE. It's such an extra twist of the knife when Mirrorwatch and April Fools show off all the potential skills we could have gotten as well.

Im surprised they never made the sniper into a widow skin ( 8:44 ), I remember watching the trailer for retribution and getting excited cause I thought it was a guaranteed skin

"We just need a movie or series" video releasing after info released the Overwatch Netflix series was cancelled lmfaooo

This reminds me of Destiny 2 first 2 years. It really looked like the game would be left to death, a Game with one of the most impressive lores I've seen, a fun gameplay and infinite potential, it was a sad feeling but devs really went and made and absolutely masterpiece by now. I hope Overwatch could have this type of comeback, necessarily with PVE but a fun way to show more lore. An episodic TV serie that get idk a chapter every 2 months, that goes with the season maps or héroes would be great

If the cancelled PVE means we have a slight chance for a series, I'm game. The gameplay in the pve null sector events was pretty bland, you played through them to get to see the cutscenes. Some of the non-canon small pve events tied to the battlepass, like the call of cthulhu ones, are pretty neat and flesh out that particular season.

Archives? More like warcrimes, am I right?😂 Edit: Wtf did you say about hero mastery gauntlet? I'd rather play Lucio Ball for the rest of my life than to ever think about that cursed mode again!

21:52 to answer your question, gothenburg was originally designed as a 2cp map which is a game mode that was removed from the game so that version of the map will probably never be added. HOWEVER the assets from that map are very likely to be reused in a future flashpoint or clash map

God I just wish they made a spin-off PVE game or something, I loved the Overwatch PVE

I'd scream like a fangirl out loud if we got to watch Genji vs Talon in Nepal. Regardless,I'm safe from the embarassment by at least 2 years.

Man, I saw you create the original thumbnail on stream (which was neat) and you go and change it? Literally crying.

I honestly would pay whatever it costs for a PvE in Overwatch, even if it goes to Bl*zzard.

“overwatch 2 was released and was review bombed…” and then showing images of its steam release two years later is irresponsible

A bunch of characters received similar Polar theme skins this year. I actually think this is related to a PVE that was supposed to be used with them, but got shelved.

I feel they lied about canceling PVE and have just been cooking with more PVE content

Don't like the idea that you are so limited on hero choices for these missions, when you have a cast so large.

been playing since winter 2016. Always wanted a pve mode and for it to be done like this is so upsetting

OW2 deserves the rating. they lied. it should be in shame for its entire lifecycle.

The community needs to continuously demand that the devs get back to work on the pve.

I still miss pve, I actually Liked playing that mode better than Pvp honestly :(

So sad and I just herd they are loosing even more people working on this game

25:51 underworld also had a bunch of bonus modes where you could play as diffrent heroes

Mfs really still be saying cassidy to avoid the blizzard boot damn

honestly i always found pve to be boring but i understand the disappointment

There was actually a plan for an ow netflix show that was scrapped cuz ofc it has

Love your content! Very cohesive and straight to the point! Keep it up😁

PvE has been canceled because it was too expensive to produce, it's really that simple. The fact that the devs were kinda slow (which is ... bound to happen in some cases, nothing wrong with that especially with Blizzard) didn't helped Activision execs believing that they shouldn't focus on PvP, which was already making bucks I still think it was a mistake ... Fortnite has a single shop and tons of gamemodes. I know a lot of people who aren't into PvP games but immediately expressed their interest towards a coop pve mode. Sure, making a great PvE experience would have been expensive, but I'm sure it would have been worth it

An infinitely replayable and customizable story based PVE experience would be a lot of fun, that's a good idea! - Shows Battleborn...

I really hope they do get the chance to continue the story of OverWatch

I really hope for fun pve events this halloween, not sure why is it so hard to make different stuff every year.

Nobody plays that mastery or hero gauntlet crap

Honestly goated content Better than blizzard

what an amazing video, thank u for making it

Marvel Rivals can do the funniest thing ever.

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Have Blizzard not played Destiny? Literally the best thing about that game are the raids, but instead Blizzard made their PvE content more like the more generic content like Destiny's strikes, but worse. It's weird because Bungie specifically took inspiration from WoW, a Blizzard game, to see how they could implement an MMO raid into a shooter format, and they did a great job of it. So why don't Blizzard take the same inspiration from their own franchise too, rather than trying to copy things like Left 4 Dead which doesn't work with the hero's abilities? The best thing about Overwatch is it fuses MMO-style roles into a shooter, so why are we getting boring, repetitive story missions rather than MMO-style raids which take advantage of Overwatch's tank/dps/healer trinity? If they could make raids where you need teamwork and communication in order to not die, and the little enemies are just the "adds" rather than the main threat... it could be really fun. Like for instance there could be pylons around the map that supports can heal which when maxed out create a barrier to survive insta-kill events... but supports also have to keep an eye on teammates so they don't drop... this gives supports more things to heal and more to think about. Or a pressure plate which when the tank stands on it, projects a barrier in the area that offers cover for the whole team when a big attack is incoming from a huge omnic boss... this gives tanks more things to think about positioning wise rather than just swinging your hammer away at a bunch of bots. Or an ally gets teleported into a prison where they have to survive, while their teammates have to break the teleport device to get them out... But maybe inside the prison there's a buff that can be obtained to lower the boss's shield etc. A million different raid mechanics they could do... Oh and traversal through the raid needs gimmicks like you all have to take different routes and find switches to open a path. Or the air gets progressively more "poisonous" if you don't have your high speed heroes ike Lucio or Tracer go around looking for devices to cleanse the air on the far lanes while the slower heroes make their way through the main direct lane, and they have to hunt targets who upon dying, drop a barrier around those switches for your teammates to break etc. Just a few ideas to make it so it's not just fighting waves of enemies. Especially if they try to make it play like a PvP match with moving payloads, chokepoints and pressuring AI so they will take cover when low, taking space etc. A big problem with Overwatch's PvE is it is totally different from the PvP so you have PvP heroes being forced into PvE gameplay they were never designed for, and the AI doesn't act the same way humans do. All the cooldowns are designed around breaking through chokepoints to capture an objective, so the PvE also has to work the same way. If there are sniper enemies which will keep taking shots from outside the arena, but you can damage them to make them grapple to a different spot and push them away, similar to when you'd damage a player and force them to retreat to get a health pack. Enemies need to have behaviours that mirror PvP behaviours, because your cooldowns are built around these behaviours... It also needs to be rewarding. Like a Weekly challenge could be to complete a Raid once, and you get Mythic Prisms for it, or you get something you can take into PvP mode which shows other players you completed the week's raid on highest difficulty etc. The PvE has to be good, it has to mirror PvP's mechanics, fun to replay and it has to be rewarding so that there's enough people looking to do it each week. I think the Rogue-like element could work, but simply making your abilities be able to kill boring bots faster is not gonna fix PvE.

His name was (and still is) McCree

Winston, Tracer, and Genji feel like the OW posterchilds given how often they show up in PvE Edit: Just finished WatchOver's other videos. Dude, I LOVE your content, subscribed

Bro, ur eyes never move, it's freaking me out

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8:50, *CLOAKER ACTIVATION SOUND*

Where just going in a circle at this point.

Ooh left 4 dead that is a good game and reference

BRO WHAT WAS THAT REAPER IN UPRISING DOING

so basically adding the 2 was a waste

great video, keep it up

Make a overwatch lore video

Did you change the title?

You forgot the star watch PvE that come out in season 4

Boy do I feel sad 😢

Junkenstein is the best

the game has so much potential in pve it's crazy, the lilith event was super cool and fun and they made that just for a limited time mode to sell some skins. imagine what could happen if they actually tried when it comes to gameplay in pve...

Bruh what is jaffrey damer doi g playing overwatch?