Why Phil Labonte's politics didn't DESTROY his music career 

As trite as it sounds, we really do need to learn how to get along better when it comes to political differences. We're stuck here with each other whether we like it or not.

Phil is so awful, he actually want's people to be free and have agency.

At this point, I pretty much only watch Timcast IRL episodes when Phil is on

I remember Ron Paul!! My friends that loved weed also loved him 😀 when they were high they would start talking about him and I wouldn't pay much attention because it was politics.

1:14 “I separate All That Remains from myself.” That is EXACTLY why. One mistake Phil Labonte has NEVER made is where he gets so used to being the face of the band that he overshadows everyone else in the band and makes them think and act like him in order to function professionally. In the instance where he was interviewed by Loudwire for the Fact or Fiction series, he introduced himself as “Phil from All That Remains” instead of his full name. That goes to show how strong his team mentality is and how reluctant he is to take credit for the bands achievements. Ever since the early 2000s he’s been that way. Just with the way the music videos are produced shows that he tries to include all the members of the band on camera absolutely shredding at some point in each one. That’s helped him from becoming someone who’s viewed as a right wing conspiracy theorist and instead he’s viewed as an outsider who may go against the culture but is not someone who is mean or bigoted. Absolute GOD TIER response.

I love this conversation. Krishna core fascinates me, but also confuses me. Like 108 is a killer band, but they’re lyrics can come off as quite hateful at times (possibly a misunderstanding on my part) which seems out of line with Hare Krishna or Hinduism. Also, Shadowsfall has a lot of lyrics with Hindu or Buddhist background, but I never realized it until now. Was Brian Fair in the krishna core movement?

Phil is just an awesome humble guy. He's not loud and obnoxious, which are traits people erroneously associate with conservatives and libertarians.

Even though ATR has never been my particular taste... Not a huge fan of theit variety of clean vocals... People are insane if they seriously claim they are worse now than The Fall of Ideals. Jason Richardson is possibly the greatest guitarist alive and has added to the group immensely

I have seen him on TimCast....I have a better appreciation for him now

Why would they? He is a grown man, and he has the right to believe and think whatever he wants/feels like...what ever happened to : "Freedom of Speech.."

I just never cared about his politics enough to stop me from listening to the music. If I stopped listening to bands whose beliefs I didn't agree with then I wouldn't really be able to listen to metal anymore. Keeping it separate from the band is important though. Like recently I saw Josh from Sylosis wearing a Sea Shepard shirt and I rolled my eyes but I love his music and think he's one of the best metal vocalists. It's not even just music. There's tons of entertainers out there whose work I enjoy but I probably wouldn't like them in person. There are some pretty big Japan vlog channels that make great videos but I know I wouldn't get along with them in person if the conversation went beyond the surface level of just meeting for the first time and talking about vague, generic bullshit that isn't controversial. Like I've seen some of their personal posts outside of the channel and roll my eyes so hard. Like with metal bands, a lot of foreign people who come to Japan are super left leaning. Weird that Japan attracts that considering how far to the right it is.

I’m straight edge and pro-life I can back that up!

Anyone think Fall of Ideals is their worst album?

Phil along with Howard Jones are absolutely national treasures

Phil is an extremely intelligent guy, spend a little time listening to what he actually has to say (not what the media says about him), you will see he is a thoughtful free thinker with a lot of common sense. 💯👍😊

All that remains and BFMV and avenged sevenfold were the bands that got me into metalcore

Thank you so much for this. All power to such conversations. Art should be fully independent of politics always. Phil is a fucking Apex Example of being oneself in the face off adversity. Many regards from India.

I think his politics make the music better lmao. Love his appearances on timcast

The reason why his politics didn't destroy his music career is because he never caved to the mob. Much like Joe Escalante in that regard. Phil never apologized for his beliefs. In fact, it was his strong and resolute conviction that encouraged people to get behind him. It's crazy to me how much times have changed. Punk rock used to be anti establishment, anti conformity, etc. Nowadays, by its very definition, there is nothing more punk rock than to stand up for your conservative or libertarian views. Democrats these days don't believe in shit except full governmental subservience and most Republicans are spineless. Then there are those of us who are capable of independent thought and don't give a single fuck about what people think. Or, even more importantly, how other people feel. Facts don't give a fuck about your feelings.

I absolutely love that Phil and I are both New England boy's!! Him being from Chicopee Massachusetts and me being only 20 minutes away from him here in Connecticut!! That's awesome!!

ATR has yet to put out a bad album. GO AHEAD.......TELL ME I'M WRONG!

Love the point about conformity PACKAGED as nonconformity being accepted, dissenting opinions are allowed, as long as they're OUR dissenting opinions... Funny how I, at least, didn't notice enough to be able to articulate that point until it was almost too late to do anything about. The pandemic REALLY opened a lot of people's eyes, thank God... Exercise those freedoms, keep em sharp! God bless.

Phil Labonte just goes on podcasts and records music with russian agents. No big fucking deal. A Marine that hates American. Semper Fi. Dissent? 😂😂😂

"I like to separate myself from the band on political views" Tell that to Kyle Gass

He's right, authoritarianism exists on both extremes, policing speech is definitely not as bad as say 1/6 but it's important to acknowledge the toxicity on the left with this shit

Fuck, they cut the video at the most interesting part! (the pro-life argument from the left)

Still trying to find the band and the song Finn mentions at 4:14, anyone know of it? EDIT: Found it! (ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-lrEcT_6xw5o.html)

Timcast fan here. Phil is awesome on that podcast and has a lot to offer the conversations anytime he's on. Love that guy.

The hell does politics have to do with music 😑

All That Remains definitely haven't released anything memorable since fall of ideals lol

That was a weird time to cut off the clip lol

OMG!!! How Lame PHIL!!! Your first what... 3-4 albums said FORMALLY of Shadows Fall. Unfortunately not everyone has Shadows Fall DEMO TAPES!! Your ass got bounced quick. MORTAL PUNISHMENT was better than anything All That Remains ever did.