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Why Pokemon needs to add Sound Type 

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Tell me in the comments if i did manage to change your mind if initially you thought sound type would be kinda dumb or you were indifferent. Also I have a lot more pokemon videos on the way so if you want to support a small youtuber hit the subscribe button id really appreciate it.
00:00 Intro
00:25 Balancing
04:36 Pokemon retype potential
07:48 Gen 9 revamp + region inspiration potential
10:17 Debunking Rebuttals
11:48 New eeveelution
13:40 Outro
Pixel art credits:
Gigantimax pokemon pixel art (lapras, rillaboom) done by leparagon on deviant art
Clawitser pixel art by quanyails on deviant art
(Noibat/noivern, hakamo-o, Kamoo-o, rillaboom line, toxtricity/gigantimax toxtricity) pixel art by conyjams on deviant art
Obstigoon pixel art by WAYWARD on Pokemon Amino

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@shakenjacob7946
@shakenjacob7946 2 года назад
Personally, I'd make Sound be resisted by Psychic because one, meditation requires you to completely ignore and block any sounds that are coming towards you, and two, Psychic, while certainly not a bad type, isn't exactly a top tier pick like Water or Steel are. Still a good video, though!
@proclarushtaonasat
@proclarushtaonasat 2 года назад
so true! In the scifi-show stargate, they even use a sound generator, to block the psychic powers of evil space priests by giving them migraines due to the exact same logic. Edit: I just reread the original comment, and realized, I got it completely backwards. Sound should be effective against psychic, but maybe moves like calm mind and meditation could lessen the effect of sound?
@BagOfButtons
@BagOfButtons 2 года назад
I think it would be better to make both be resistent to eachother, both agruments are great
@zebby5992
@zebby5992 2 года назад
I think the same, you hit the best choice for both parts
@leavesofpaper346
@leavesofpaper346 2 года назад
I don't think sound should be resisted by psychic, because all of Pschic's weaknesses are stuff people are scared of- Bugs, the dark, and ghosts. A lot of people are scared of loud sounds, and sudden loud sounds are also the first thing people's brains drift to because that sound could give a warning that determines your life or death. While some Psychic types do meditate, it is tough to meditate when there are loud noises around. (I would know, I have experience.) and while with practice you can overcome it, it's still tough to drown out everything IMO.
@Marblesoda821
@Marblesoda821 2 года назад
Actually the Sound>Psychic is reasonable, you can always try to meditate and reach a mental state to try and ignore sounds but things like Screech or Metal Sound (Both moves being loud ear-piercing screeches, let's not even get into Hyper Voice) are more than enough to knock someone out of the metal state and even make them unable to focus and think
@DudeHunder
@DudeHunder 2 года назад
Fairy type was a nerf for overpowered dragons back in the day. Sound might work
@nihili4196
@nihili4196 2 года назад
To be fair, 2 out of three types added post gen 1 ended up being OP as well. Hell, even dark was too strong up until fairy happened
@magusperde365
@magusperde365 2 года назад
To nerf fairy. Just make it weak to bug
@vwlz8637
@vwlz8637 2 года назад
fairy dark and ghost are some of the best types rn. followed by water and dragon.
@nihili4196
@nihili4196 2 года назад
And steel. Steel is quite good too.
@alonedownthere47
@alonedownthere47 2 года назад
fairy type should've been light type and should've been done alongside sound type, i've been saying this since gen 6, ofc it's too late now, maybe i'll make my own hack with blackjack and hookers
@phillipogden5804
@phillipogden5804 2 года назад
Wailmer and Wailord could make good sound types too, considering how Blue Whales can make 180 Decibal Calls underwater (which is as loud as a Jet Plane), and certain toothed Whales also use sound bursts to stun fish in the real world. A Water/Sound typing for Wailmer/Wailord would also make them even weaker to grass types, thus showing how a grass-type like Dhelmise can actively hunt Wailord.
@AdminAbuse
@AdminAbuse 2 года назад
Decibel*
@gigawooper2733
@gigawooper2733 Год назад
Speaking of which, you could make an argument that the two Jet Planes, Latios and Latias could be sound type for the same reasons.
@zuke857
@zuke857 2 года назад
Vacuum Wave could gain a secondary effect of being super effective against sound because sound doesn’t travel in a Vacuum Like how freeze dry is super effective against water
@mitchpitch
@mitchpitch 2 года назад
i like that
@Grean-Beans
@Grean-Beans 2 года назад
Would need a base power boost to be on the same level as freeze-dry
@zuke857
@zuke857 2 года назад
@@Grean-Beans definitely
@zuke857
@zuke857 2 года назад
@@mitchpitch glad you like it 👍
@Satzuii
@Satzuii 2 года назад
@@Grean-Beans it’s a priority move so it’s 40 power but I wouldn’t mind seeing it changed to 70 power and giving fighting types another special option besides the limited aura sphere and focus miss
@Cappy-Bara
@Cappy-Bara 2 года назад
It also has some overlap with flying, so resisting fighting and ground seem to fit as well, especially if it is replacing the flying type for some pokemon. With some trade offs of course. It also seems like it could have a connection with dark type because sound is unaffected by darkness, but dark type is really just evil karate rather than visible darkness
@CloutmasterPhluphyy
@CloutmasterPhluphyy 2 года назад
"really evil karate" That is amazing.
@InYourFloorboards12345
@InYourFloorboards12345 2 года назад
Evil karate Let’s start a chain
@stellarknight04
@stellarknight04 2 года назад
Chatot and Exploud will be interesting
@azur8040
@azur8040 2 года назад
evil karate
@zekromleader
@zekromleader 2 года назад
That's very true with Dark Type. Very few moves are depicting of dark matter or essence which crosses with Ghost. Namely Pokemon like Darkrai and Giritina as they can honestly be either type and still make sense thematically.
@slimeey_smiles970
@slimeey_smiles970 2 года назад
If sound type was added, Then sound based moves like Growl would have to be changed types, So I think Sound adds to the catagory of Normal Edit:MOM IM FAMOUS
@mitchpitch
@mitchpitch 2 года назад
Im gonna talk about moves in the follow up video i was going to in the one but it made the video too long
@anthonyporrasmarmolejo5618
@anthonyporrasmarmolejo5618 2 года назад
I mean fighting type is a normal type but with martial arts knowledge I think it makes senses
@mattn0414
@mattn0414 2 года назад
Boomburst be like:
@Asianstreetsfood
@Asianstreetsfood 2 года назад
Ice adds to the category of water
@xenstarboy
@xenstarboy 2 года назад
A lot like all.of the moon based moves turning from normal to fairy!
@ypob2007
@ypob2007 2 года назад
Suggestion: instead of snowy day, the hail weather condition could do to sound types the same that grassy terrain does to ground types, halving it’s power
@TheQjad135
@TheQjad135 2 года назад
Snowy Terrain then
@ypob2007
@ypob2007 2 года назад
@@TheQjad135 that’s literally what hail is
@limerumpus3589
@limerumpus3589 2 года назад
Grassy terrain only halves earthquake if you didn’t know
@bookswithbek2702
@bookswithbek2702 2 года назад
^
@akshayreddy4071
@akshayreddy4071 2 года назад
@@limerumpus3589 I think bulldoze and magnitude too, all ik is that it isnt only equake
@HydroTurtle
@HydroTurtle 2 года назад
Personally I would also make the Ludicolo line since it dances literally in its idle animation, and it’s dex entries talk about Ludicolo loving music produced by travelers and people
@Garfewloid
@Garfewloid 2 года назад
While this is a good idea, ludicolo's of type is too unique to pass up
@HydroTurtle
@HydroTurtle 2 года назад
@@Garfewloid So maybe a form of some sort or something, Ludicolo’s unique typing holds it back in some ways due to the large amount of weaknesses grass gives and not a lot of Beni fits besides maybe leach sees and stab on grass moves
@Garfewloid
@Garfewloid 2 года назад
@@HydroTurtle yes
@BattletoDeath
@BattletoDeath 2 года назад
Just give him the sound proof ability. Make him immune to sound type attacks. Boom.
@HydroTurtle
@HydroTurtle 2 года назад
@@BattletoDeath that wouldn’t work cause Ludicolos whole Niche is his rain based abilities
@Whale-Shark-Katie
@Whale-Shark-Katie 2 года назад
Bit of a rebuttal to the Eeveelution argument, dragon is also one of the “special” types from gen 1, so I think logically it’d make more sense to have a dragon type Eeveelution before a sound type Eeveelution. Also, little other thing, I don’t think we should be taking away the psychic type from Bronzong and the Woobat line and ground type from the Seismitoad line, I think that’d just be nerfing them which we don’t need
@mitchpitch
@mitchpitch 2 года назад
Oh i didnt know dragon was a special type. Also yeah i kinda agree with the second point i might touch on that in a follow up
@ILikeKirbys
@ILikeKirbys 2 года назад
Eeveelutions came in pairs before Sylveon, so we could get Dragon and Sound Eeveelutions together.
@Whale-Shark-Katie
@Whale-Shark-Katie 2 года назад
@@ILikeKirbys maybe? But I feel like that’s a stretch
@ILikeKirbys
@ILikeKirbys 2 года назад
​@@Whale-Shark-Katie Yeah, it's a stretch. But I'd like to think that if we get another Eeveelution, we'll get two. Just because they mostly came in groups, outside of Sylveon.
@chairmanofrussia
@chairmanofrussia 2 года назад
Also, make Exploud both sound and normal.
@01cybermen
@01cybermen 2 года назад
I agree with everyone but not sure about lapras. Makes sense but we are already lacking in ice types and gigantamax is probably gonna remain a one off thing for sw/sh
@mitchpitch
@mitchpitch 2 года назад
Yeah maybe ice/sound but water is a pretty big part of lapras. Thats one problem with sound having to replace types
@josea.ruizquinones9262
@josea.ruizquinones9262 2 года назад
@@mitchpitch yeah, i think Lapras should just stay Water/Ice and have access to Sound type moves. If G-Max could change typing, id argue to change Ice for Sound in it, but regular Lapras is better of staying as is.
@proclarushtaonasat
@proclarushtaonasat 2 года назад
Triple types?
@batmanbatman3840
@batmanbatman3840 2 года назад
i think lapras shouldnt be sound type
@batmanbatman3840
@batmanbatman3840 2 года назад
@@proclarushtaonasat triple
@yin9008
@yin9008 2 года назад
Gotta say, the whiplash I felt after clicking on this video while playing Pokemon Xenoverse (a fangame with Sound as a new type) was immense. 10/10 this was actually really interesting!
@Cyrork
@Cyrork 2 года назад
my issues with it are: 1) I feel like 18 types is a perfectly even number to have. Unless they wanna give us 2 types again like in gen 2, bringing us to 20 types 2) I know people say Bug type is terrible as well, but i feel like Ice type is the only one that needs heavy rebalancing (and GF has taken a small step towards that with changing freeze to frostbite in PLA), so they could just do that. 3) All the good Special Normal Type movies would be gone; there'd only be Swift, Tri-Attack and Weather Ball (which are all gimmicky) and that messes with Pokemon that have the -ate ability that turns Normal moves into different type moves. ex. Sylveon and Gardevoir could no longer use Pixilate boosted Hyper Voice which would mess them up 4) The fact that they already have Sound Based moves that aren't Normal typed This last part isnt an issue, but it'd be funny if sound type was a thing cause there's already the Soundproof ability, so those mons would probably gain viability being immune to Sound Types. Like the Levitate ability
@noodles24601
@noodles24601 2 года назад
Point 3 you have here is definitely my biggest concern with a hypothetical sound type. It just absolutely guts normal move availability unless they take some drastic steps to avoid that. Honestly if game freak wanted to add it I'd probably add a bunch of new special normal moves, then make the change to sound type for the others the gen after that. Not 100% sure that's a good idea regardless, but still
@dRac_XII
@dRac_XII 2 года назад
@@noodles24601 if by “drastic steps” you mean reskinning some current normal moves to sound and then replacing them with new normal type moves unrelated to sound then i don’t see the complication. for example: hyper voice becomes sound? just make a new special normal type 10 pp, base 90 power, 100 accuracy move. call it something dumb like coin toss idc
@tear959
@tear959 2 года назад
Ice type just need some extra resistences (that I dont know why it doesnt have), its dumb that ice only resists itself. In my opinion, it should be (at the very least) resistent to water, because ice is basically solid water, I dont think thats fair water resisting ice, but ice dont resist water.
@jessehunter362
@jessehunter362 2 года назад
Also. What is a sound type physical move.
@123sebasti
@123sebasti 2 года назад
@@jessehunter362 sound physical moves could be related to dance moves or something xd
@j_atart
@j_atart 2 года назад
I like how you made the list of what Pokemon would be part sound type and while some I also thought should be sound, Pokemon like Clawitzer and others never came to my mind but when you went into their real life counterparts it started to make sense
@mitchpitch
@mitchpitch 2 года назад
It was fun doing research and coming across pokemon you wouldnt think to be sound type lmao
@janthejetplane5668
@janthejetplane5668 2 года назад
@@mitchpitch Emmm just to point out one thing: Rillaboom perfectly fits, but it's a starter from galar and all the galar starters are pure starter types so i don't thinkk htey would do that
@DamonDraven
@DamonDraven 2 года назад
@@janthejetplane5668 Doesn't matter that much really, Unova starters have only one dual type while Kanto and Alola starters have one pokémon that is dual-typed from the beginning. It wouldn't be that weird to simultaneously have both occurrences in a trio.
@ghani666
@ghani666 2 года назад
I was wholly unconvinced that Sound type was a good idea…until this video. You sold me on it 100%
@RFGfotografie
@RFGfotografie 2 года назад
Spain looks like being the region where this next series game will be, adding the sound type to such a musical country, would be perfect.
@Definitemink
@Definitemink 2 года назад
All I'm saying is that if this gets introduced, it better have a FANTASTIC soundtrack
@runedoom
@runedoom 2 года назад
While I agree with most of what you said, I have rebuttals of my own. First, some of your examples of Pokemon that should be sound type already have fitting types, such as bronzong, whose psychic type comes from it's magic powers and Hakamo-o, whose sound come from it's war dances. Second, you said towards the argument that sound type is just normal type, that for now it is. However of the thirty-one sound based moves, only eighteen are normal type. I brought this up for two reasons: to point out how the argument makes no sense at all, and because several of these moves probably will never change type, specifically bug buzz, eerie spell, grass whistle and metal sound. Third, as already brought up, there are already numerous sound based moves, all with the same ability to ignore substitute. it's already a gimmick added onto moves to make them situationally better with the same theming. If they added a sound type, they'd have to change several things that I doubt they will. Not saying they won't, I just don't see it happening any time soon. Edit: I noticed said you would cover the comment that @BlazeDJ made. I hope you do the same with this one and try to argue against it, as this was fun to type out.
@mitchpitch
@mitchpitch 2 года назад
Oh 100% ill reply to this in the follow up. I was gonna talk about moves and the facts that some of the sound based moves arnt normal type in this vid but it would have made the vid to long so ill cover it in the follow up. And ill adress your other two points >:)
@kr0wzy
@kr0wzy 2 года назад
Also if you take a look at all the pokemon who have had their types changed (without an alternative form) they either made a monotype pokemon a dual type or changed a pokemons normal type to another type. Changing a pokemon with two unique typings just doesn't make sense to me
@icantthinkofaname8139
@icantthinkofaname8139 2 года назад
Her’s what i think 1. You can always add new pokemon! Dark type didn’t even do any retyping at all 2. Some won’t change, but some probably should like screech, disarming voice etc. 3. We can turn a gimmick into a type
@runedoom
@runedoom 2 года назад
@@icantthinkofaname8139 1 yeah, I just disagree with some of them changing type 2 if sound becomes a type, agreed 3 non of the other gimmicks became types, but I guess you're right. No matter how unlikely, a gimmick could become a type
@TheQjad135
@TheQjad135 2 года назад
@@kr0wzy they did that with fairy already though so it doesn’t really matter
@StateBlaze1989
@StateBlaze1989 2 года назад
Gotta say this is the first I've heard of any rumors saying gen 9 will be Australia. That rumor really aged well with the official trailer all but telling us it'll be Spain.
@mitchpitch
@mitchpitch 2 года назад
Yepp hahahaha. Yeah idk why i included that rumour at all now in heinsight
@bobertjefferson2456
@bobertjefferson2456 2 года назад
9:01 a lyrebird as a sound type is so fitting especially given the birds capabilities of mimicking noises and the fact that it is named after its tail which is shaped similarly to that of a lyre(a hand held harp-like instrument)
@Mathee
@Mathee 2 года назад
I don't think Sound should be super effective against Water, because sound does travel well in water; underwater is pretty well-known for being super quiet. The others make sense though; metals can transport the sound of something hitting it, making the sound louder, and you could make the argument that the sound travelling underground, would mean travelling through a cave, like an echo. And I guess Psychic makes sense, since psychic powers requires concentration, which loud noises would break
@mitchpitch
@mitchpitch 2 года назад
The caves argument i didnt even think of, yeah that works
@caldw615
@caldw615 2 года назад
I feel Water should gain a weakness to Poison at least.
@amandaslough125
@amandaslough125 2 года назад
@@caldw615 It's either or depending on how you look at it. Because water is commonly a polluted thing, but water is also a purifier. So it being a neutral relationship works fine.
@caldw615
@caldw615 2 года назад
@@amandaslough125 Thematically you could argue either way but in terms of balance Poison is still pretty underpowered and Water is too strong so a new interaction is in order I feel.
@raplexp
@raplexp 2 года назад
I think psychic should be both strong and weak to it. Look at singing bowels, meditation chants. chimes etc. All sound based that enhance psychic ability.
@thesirensystem
@thesirensystem 2 года назад
My main argument against sound type was me being unsure as to how it affects the type chart but the arguments for the type chart in this video are very good. Still not sure if I'm entirely sold on the idea but I understand the argument much better now
@HazySkies
@HazySkies 2 года назад
As an Australian, I can confirm a lot of animals here make one heck of a racket. Particularly Cockatoos and Kookaburras. And with so many unique animals here, there's certain a lot of potential. So Australian region with sound type addition sounds awesome.
@mitchpitch
@mitchpitch 2 года назад
SOUND TYPE FOLLOW UP IS OUT!!!
@BlackClaw2
@BlackClaw2 2 года назад
Can’t wait to see it!
@jonathanwilson1539
@jonathanwilson1539 2 года назад
Taught me alot bout Sound..looking yo bring back my idea of a game I wanted designed and this is awesome idea 💡 Question: Would you consider Water and Ice better separate in RPGs or merged?
@mitchpitch
@mitchpitch 2 года назад
@@jonathanwilson1539 Some rpgs have them as the same thing so golden sun for example maybe some others, personally I think it works either way but I think that they are different enough to justify them being seperate.
@jonathanwilson1539
@jonathanwilson1539 2 года назад
@@mitchpitch I've never played that but would give it a try for fresh game experience and to see how they handle there element system. 😁 appreciate the reply!
@mitchpitch
@mitchpitch 2 года назад
@@jonathanwilson1539 it's actually a really great rpg, I def reccomend
@josea.ruizquinones9262
@josea.ruizquinones9262 2 года назад
For the choices of Sound-type Pokemon, you should exclude those that simply make references to sound techniques and consider if the type itself fits the theming of the Pokemon. Bronzong is a bell, but its a bell with mystical powers that calls for rain. Hence more psychic than Sound. Kommo-o uses his clanging scale dances and preview of the battle to come. He’s a… whats the word… ritualistic fighter? Exploud is good as a Sound type, but his large body and muscles should also make him a Normal type, so Normal/Sound is a more fitting type for him. Noivern is a great Sound/Dragon, but Swoobat is better known for abusing Stored Power, a Psychic move and using echolocation is a poor reason to make it sound-type, otherwise the blind zubat would be one too. A lesser known option for Sound-type could be the Toucannon line as they can change their vocals to over a hundred different cries (at least as a Trumbeak). It would also set it apart from the myriad Normal/Flying types. Meowstic line could debatably be Sound-type as their psychic powers are inside their ears and are portrayed as psychic sound waves. Though the power itself is not referred to as sound-based and the evolutions say the power is in the patterns beneath their ears, so… Theres others, but other commenters mentioned those already.
@gigawooper2733
@gigawooper2733 Год назад
Heavily disagree with your opinion on exploud, but the rest of these are solid opinions.
@peashooter9078
@peashooter9078 Год назад
Exploud should be Sound/Normal because it has a large body and muscles? Well there goes the entirety of the Fighting type...
@PressEnter42
@PressEnter42 2 года назад
My only thing against this idea is it'd lead to there being 19 types. 18 is such a nice even number
@mitchpitch
@mitchpitch 2 года назад
I was considering that. It also makes it uneven in promotional material when displaying all the times. Ill probably talk about that in the follow up video
@rivercox8172
@rivercox8172 2 года назад
@@mitchpitch 👀 pumped for a follow up
@mitchpitch
@mitchpitch 2 года назад
@@rivercox8172 Hahaha ik me too its gonna be a hella long video but its basically gonna be diving deep into the sound type rabbit hole with comments
@darrenmacqueen9884
@darrenmacqueen9884 2 года назад
Then they'll need to add 2 new types to make it a perfect 20. Preferably a second type that is strong against electric types.
@pubertdefrog
@pubertdefrog 2 года назад
Well, there is one new type possibility that gets overlooked way too much, and that is the Temporal/Time type. Just as sound is an integral part of our everyday being, so is time and it's properties. There are so many options for temporal type pokemon too, you could have seasonal guardians that share the Temporal type along with Ice, Fairy/Grass, Grass/Fire, & Ghost. It's a bit of a wacky type option, but I think it makes sense to add it either alongside sound or somewhere down the line after sound
@rocketdino3206
@rocketdino3206 2 года назад
I think the sound type should resist or be super effective against dark since echolocation can be used to see in the dark.
@mitchpitch
@mitchpitch 2 года назад
Thats what i thought as well but my friend suggested that dark should be super effective against sound as there is no sound in a void. But i agree with the other way round
@PoisonFlower765
@PoisonFlower765 2 года назад
Dark is more of the "mean" or "evil" type than actual darkness, save for Umbreon.
@smashmaniac2008
@smashmaniac2008 2 года назад
Dark is evil not lacking light
@markosgelos3321
@markosgelos3321 2 года назад
@@PoisonFlower765 it actually is supposed to mean" dirty fighting" like stated by the first darktype specialist in johto attacks that would be considered unfair and unhonorable in a fight like attacking your opponent by surprise (sucker punch) tricking your opponent (feint) biting etc
@TheQjad135
@TheQjad135 2 года назад
@@markosgelos3321 yeah its basically the “Evil” type the villians of Pokemon in a sense
@omegacaga4584
@omegacaga4584 2 года назад
This is something i've been thinking about for ages. There are some things I would nitpick, but you make very good points and you put a lot of work into this video. It's a shame this hasnt blown up yet, you deserve it!
@mitchpitch
@mitchpitch 2 года назад
Oh thank you man :)
@yoshi_705
@yoshi_705 2 года назад
Not too related, but I like the Ice type. It hits the most Pokémon super-effectively, so it’s a glass (or ice) cannon type.
@liesebeam8910
@liesebeam8910 2 года назад
Love this video. Ive been debating with a friend about sound type forever
@MireVale
@MireVale 2 года назад
I would argue for Jynx being sound type since it speaks in a human-like voice and can learn sing and perish song. But my question is, what criteria is there for a Pokémon to be sound type and not just a Pokémon that knows sound moves? Does it have to be made of sound in some way, and how would that be possible? Sound is just vibrations picked up by our ear drums.
@mitchpitch
@mitchpitch 2 года назад
Yeah that potentially could be one
@Chirrie
@Chirrie 2 года назад
I'd assume that Pokemon that specialize in attacking with sound would be sound type (Loudred, Chatot, etc.) Any Pokemon can yell loudly but only certain ones can put someone to sleep, or make earthquakes with sounds
@vocalvortexstudios2058
@vocalvortexstudios2058 2 года назад
It would need to be like Kricketune in that its sound is a base for its entire design as opposed to just something its capable of doing
@azylan
@azylan 2 года назад
tbf that's been an issue with pokemon for a long time. many ground pokemon aren't actually made of ground, they just have ground-based powers. many poison types aren't actually made of poison. i don't even know how dark type gets its resistances and weaknesses. in other words i don't think it's too big a logical leap for pokemon to give any sound-based pokemon the sound type.
@TheQjad135
@TheQjad135 2 года назад
Regional Forms are our friend for this
@medots6194
@medots6194 2 года назад
"Doesn't sound like a rattata-thing to do" has got to be one of my favourite lines out there :'D
@mitchpitch
@mitchpitch 2 года назад
Hahahaha thank you
@nazberry6281
@nazberry6281 2 года назад
I do like the idea of a new type trying to bring balance to the game. What bothers me is that sound based moves is already a thing. There is at the time of this comment 27 sound-based moves, almost the same amount as fairy type moves. It already have its own "gimmick" (bypassing substitutes), item and abilities (Soundproof,Liquid Voice,Punk Rock,Throat Spray). Which is quite unique for the franchise. Making it a new type is not that farfetched but I don't want it. Sound-based moves are not bound by any type, that's why I think they're interesting. By not putting them in a fixed type, it allows more flexibility I think, and I would like more of those sub categories.
@al_2331
@al_2331 2 года назад
This is primarily why I'm against the Sound type as well
@jamiemccreath3959
@jamiemccreath3959 2 года назад
I don't think adding the Sound type has to confine any Sound-based moves to that type, since there are a lot of moves in Pokemon that could belong to a variety of different types (for example, the existence of the Fighting type doesn't require any punching move to be Fighting type). There are quite a few moves I think would definitely stay their original type even if the Sound type was added, like Bug Buzz, the "Clang" moves, Metal Sound, and Overdrive.
@s-wo8781
@s-wo8781 2 года назад
They have an ability called Punk Rock now?
@TheQjad135
@TheQjad135 2 года назад
But they are bound by a type and thats Normal lol
@jamiemccreath3959
@jamiemccreath3959 2 года назад
@@TheQjad135 Bug Buzz, Chatter, Clanging Scales, Disarming Voice, Eerie Spell, Grass Whistle, Metal Sound, Overdrive, etc.
@endy7630
@endy7630 2 года назад
Personally I disagree... what made the fairy type so well made was that is was made almost exclusively to nerf the dragon typing which used to be the best type in the game by far. The sound type is trying to buff pre-existing typings that have already recieved buffs across generations, such as the bug type. Plus, we cannot easily anticipate what those changes would truly do to the metagame. Meanwhile, the fairy typing does not interact with a lot of types, being weak to only two (also buffing the barely used poison typing by the way) and being super-effective to 3 types, one of which used to only have 2 weaknesses. And sure the fairy type ended up among the best, but it certainly wasn't broken or unbalanced by any means. In short, the sound type is trying to do TOO much to balance the competitive metagame typing wise, which would actually serve to make the type rather unpredictable competitively. Also consider that taking into account type effectiveness is not the only factor in making a type balanced (ex: toxic, aurora veil, sandstorm, grassy terrain, etc.)
@mitchpitch
@mitchpitch 2 года назад
Honestally you got me there. Those are good points and its not as simple adding sound type as it was adding fairy. It would be a lot more complicated and unpredictable in turms of how it would effect the meta. I guess the only real solution if they were to add it is to do it precisely well as to not screw up the meta and have a positive balancing effect
@AizakkuAdoman
@AizakkuAdoman 2 года назад
In my opinion saying bug types have been buffed is like saying lapras is an ice type that’s useable in competitive play. Sure it’s not false by all means but it’s not nessicarily because of the ice type. It’s a bulky water type with a nifty gigantamax and various other moves. The same can be said with bug type. Most bug types in later gens are “buffed” thanks to their secondary type. I mean look at ribombee araquanid goliosopod vikavolt as well as good bug Pokémon from old gens like heracross armaldo scizor and scolipede most of these Pokémon are either carried by their secondary or by other gimmicks like their abilities or bst Also I would argue that fairy is pretty broken. Nothing like gen 5 dragon bug still it didn’t need to be bug resistant. Though I will agree that competitive play would probably make sound type unpredictable but that’s sorta the fun in Pokémon ain’t it? Being suprised at what your opponent can pull off?
@Oscar-ek2jx
@Oscar-ek2jx 2 года назад
The fairy type is completely broken and they did a bad job with implementing it. Yeah sure it balanced dragon but it also buffed the steel type which it definitely didnt need, making it a mandatory type for most teams to have. Steel already resisted dragon anyway so its not like switch ins for dragon types didnt exist. Also fairy resists bug for some inexplicable reason I think they wanted to make sure fairy was going to be used in competitive so they just gave it an immunity to the best type in the game and didnt think much beyond that
@endy7630
@endy7630 2 года назад
@@Oscar-ek2jx To each their own I suppose... but hey, at least the fairy type was good enough to turn some useless pokemon into actual competitive threats
@endy7630
@endy7630 2 года назад
@@AizakkuAdoman I suppose you have a fair point there. The bug type is often viable because it's paired with certain other typing that synergize with it well... but that wouldn't make the bug type itself bad... scizor would be far worse off without it's bug typing, as it would no longer have only one weakness. Not that the bug type is good per say... just that making a whole new type to buff it seems like overkill. Though I will admit your last point is solid, the unpredictable impact the type would have could be entertaining to see
@fallenangel1324
@fallenangel1324 2 года назад
When we got the fairy type in X and Y we got a new eeveelution so it would make sense to have a new one for sound type.
@fatewillarrive
@fatewillarrive 2 года назад
I’m expecting a grey eevee that has headphones on
@Thiccremoch162
@Thiccremoch162 2 года назад
There are so many cool opportunities for new Pokémon, forms, and regional variants such as: - 3-stage psychic/water/fairy and sound siren - speaker form rotom - eeveelution that acts both as a sound absorber and a speaker - ghost sound variants of the ghastly line based on living static - steel sound living radar Pokémon And the list goes on
@mitchpitch
@mitchpitch 2 года назад
I love the ghastly varient idea and the steel sound sonar pokemon idea!
@elNatoo
@elNatoo 2 года назад
Your pitch is so solid I pressed subscribe automatically. Good stuff! I agree with the need for Sound type to balance out overused typing and give a better shot to other underused Pokémon.
@linkintominecraft1
@linkintominecraft1 2 года назад
Another point for sound being weak to ice or ice resisting it is sound waves tend to travel more slowly in cold weather.
@ronnygeis895
@ronnygeis895 2 года назад
The main reason I don't think sound typing makes sense is that it's *too metaphysical*. Regular types either constitute a pokemon's physical body (usually the case with Rock/Steel/Grass/etc.) OR constitute a pokemon's fighting style (Dark/Psychic/etc.) and sometimes both (Fairy/Water/Ghost/etc.) This doesn't make sense for sound typing, since sound isn't a physical thing, nor does it constitute a typical fighting style a pokemon could realistically use for both offense and defense. A pokemon can't be "made of sound" since sound can't exist without another physical medium, and can't use sound for defense, [though admittedly there's obvious potential for sound as an offensive tool] so sound can only be used for one half of a "fighting style".
@mitchpitch
@mitchpitch 2 года назад
This is one of the most interesting points ive seen made, that i hadnt thought about.
@geschnitztekiste4111
@geschnitztekiste4111 2 года назад
But something can also not be „made of dark“
@nooneofinterest96
@nooneofinterest96 2 года назад
@@geschnitztekiste4111 I would defer to darkrai who is literally a shadow monster haha, dark is such a concrete personality too, we need the "edgy" type
@isidoreaerys8745
@isidoreaerys8745 2 года назад
I honestly thought we would see a sound type before fairy
@moonrat1955
@moonrat1955 2 года назад
Hmng I disagree. Sound can actually damage things. If its loud enough it can make things vibrate items (like shattering glass) and damage eardrums. And even if “sound” itself is not physical, instruments are and that could be used to some good potential. Also there technically are sound based pokemon moves already, and even those moves will effect pokemon or even damage them. I would also argue that sound is a physical thing since it can interact with things. Like ghost type sound isn’t something you can reach out and touch- and shadow types are just shadows-however the Pokemon making noise themselves are solid (unless ghost type) so if a pokemon throws a punch other pokemkn can block it or dodge it, but if a pokemon sends out a piercing screech the other pokemon won’t be able to get away (unless they have some sort of strength against sound) because it will be like a shock wave. Even if a pokemon plugged its ears the noise would still definitely rattle them.
@Fonz128
@Fonz128 2 года назад
Sound type is a good idea because hearing is one of the 5 senses.
@crusatyr
@crusatyr 2 года назад
ICE resisting sound makes sense because ICE is LESS DENSE than WATER.
@jamiemccreath3959
@jamiemccreath3959 2 года назад
I was pretty strongly against sound type until watching this, but you've convinced me to at least consider it (and although I don't think it's at all likely, I hope to be proven wrong). I think the biggest thing holding it back in the community isn't necessarily that it's boring, but just that it sounds uncreative, similarly to "light", "nuclear", "wind", etc. But the way Uranium handled "nuclear" justified its inclusion, and the strengths/weaknesses of sound you described do the same.
@DamonDraven
@DamonDraven 2 года назад
To be honest I think that pokémon types should be as natural and uncreative as possible. Most names are very basic, more in line with "light" (we have dark) and "wind" (we already have fire, water, and ground) rather than "nuclear" which is much more artificial so to speak. That's why fairy and dragon seem like oddballs to me, their names sound way too specific.
@EvilKingLogan
@EvilKingLogan 2 года назад
This video is really well made! I only discovered it just now, and I am surprised how little attention this has. It deserves way more. Great job!
@coriseoris
@coriseoris 2 года назад
The sound type seems like a good idea, but I really don’t want them to remove Seismitoad’s ground type, it having the sound type makes sense, and this may just be from my obsession with Gen 5, but one of the best things about Seismitoad is it only having one weakness (or two if we count sound). Adding sound will bring the electric weakness back, keep the 4x grass weakness, and add a weakness to bug. I think it would be better as a split evolution or regional form. Returning to my Gen 5 obsession, if they ever remake BW, Clay’s gym could be screwed up if Palpitoad’s no longer a ground type. This is like my third time retyping it trying to have my reasons make sense
@trost7860
@trost7860 2 года назад
I’m honestly surprised that the Pokémon company haven’t done an Australian region with how much unique animals live there, it’s really the perfect place to base a Pokémon game in
@BaalFridge
@BaalFridge 2 года назад
Pokémon Legends : Down-Under Everything kills you.
@mitchpitch
@mitchpitch 2 года назад
I cant make community posts yet since you need 1000 subscribers but I wanted to say i appreciate the support on this video! This follow up video is going to be massive but I haven't gotten a ton of ideas for just new sound type pokemon so if you have any ideas feel free to comment them and ill probably include it in this follow up video coming soon. Some ideas I've had is a regional cyndiquil that has jaggered sound waves on its back instead of flames, or a rock sound type that's based on those rock formations by the sea that make the whistling noise from the ocean wind.
@Mango05307
@Mango05307 2 года назад
I just got this in my recommendation and was surprised to see you only got 300 subs great video
@willwisp5560
@willwisp5560 2 года назад
I'm not sure if this is the best idea but what about a natu/xatu with the psychic and sound type? I'm not sure why this came to me but xatu's ultra sun pokedex entry says it can see into the future and past at the same time but cant change it, what if the sound typing could play into that?
@mitchpitch
@mitchpitch 2 года назад
@@willwisp5560 Like sending voice messages to the future or past to change it you mean?
@willwisp5560
@willwisp5560 2 года назад
@@mitchpitch Maybe, idk? Thats a good idea though!
@CinnaBox
@CinnaBox 2 года назад
actually you need 500 (I think) now to get the community tab, so not much farther to go
@wellybelle
@wellybelle 2 года назад
so I know loud noises being able to cause avalanches isn't actually a thing, but like. considering what a popular myth it is and how many of pokemon's type weaknesses are based on folklore or urban legends, I think any hypothetical sound type would be super-effective against ice if anything
@amankraffprayer6022
@amankraffprayer6022 2 года назад
I really like it! I added a song type in my currently under dev fangame and came to see your video a few days later, so I rly enjoyed it !
@hauntedsunsets
@hauntedsunsets 2 года назад
this video's been floating around in my recommended and I finally got around to watching it, so glad I did! it's such a good video, I love listening to ideas abt how pokemon could potentially change in different ways my fav's pokemon Torterra and I could imagine there being some sort of sound-type move that's common for ground-type pokemon to get that works similarly to earthquake except it maybe bypasses screens or something. coming up with random ideas for this kind of stuff is just so cool
@turbrojewk9435
@turbrojewk9435 2 года назад
it would be fun to have a sound type exclusive ability like "amplification" that allows super effective sound type moves to become 4x effective if you've used another sound type move on the previous turn.
@hawhawhaw3123
@hawhawhaw3123 2 года назад
While I agree that Sound types should exist, I don't think that it should be strong against Steel and Ground, otherwise Pokemon like Excadrill lose their use entirely. Also Pokemon like Metagross become completely null.
@Wolfpack7000
@Wolfpack7000 2 года назад
Imagine being able to play instruments in gen 9, kind of like the ocarina in oot, and the sound types singing or playing along with you.
@holidayoreoreal
@holidayoreoreal 2 года назад
This was a really good “first” video! Good job man
@NoahLRose
@NoahLRose 2 года назад
Sound type is a bad idea from a balance perspective. The basis of what would be strong and weak to a sound type are incorrect from a material science point of view. sound type would be super affective against: rock type, fire type(maybe), Ice type, ground type (maybe), and psychic type. of these types none of them need nerfs as they are ether fairly well balanced as is or even a little under powered. Sound type would also be resisted by water type, resisted by or immune by bug type, resisted by or immune by grass type, and resisted by steel type. while bug and grass do need buffs this is not worth buffing steel (edit: also water does not need a buff ether) even more. I say these are the types that would be resistant/weak to sound because of the way sound actually interacts with materials. sound waves can actually do serious damage to objects in the real world which does make for a compelling type argument, however only objects with ridged and brittle structures are susceptible to sound ruptures meaning materials that are soft and flexible such as water and most metals would be resistant while ice and rock which are defensively fairly weak right now would only gain another weakness. If you are going to argue that Gamefreak could just pick and choose their interpretations of the interactions to force game balance then they already could with the types they have in the game right now, and it would be far easier to do than add a new type. as an example: fire needs heat to burn, ice is cold there for ice should resist fire and be super affective against it. sound would basically be a type to cover the overlap between normal and flying type, the later of which is can also be called bird type or air type. it is redundant and would poorly affect the balance of the game. if you are concerned with type balance their interactions can and have been changed before, and that is a better place to start. also there is a screen shot of a city square for gen 9 that has all they types in a circle. There are only 18 tiles in the circle so sound type is disconfirmed for gen 9 for now.
@Darknova67
@Darknova67 2 года назад
You make a sound argument, but the wheel doesn't necessarily decomfirm a new type, they could be hiding it on the wheel or scrubbed it out like they did the gauntlets in Legends Arceus. It's possible sound or whatever type, could even be discovered by the player during the game.
@NoahLRose
@NoahLRose 2 года назад
@@Darknova67 if we were talking about any other franchise for sure, but this is pokemon. If they were going to add a new type it would be plastered all over the front of the box with npcs telling you how amazing the new type is and how it totally changes the game like they did in X&Y. Not excluding it from a courtyard that has all 18 other types equally represented. That's not to say it couldn't come out later, but it would honestly be a bad idea on their part. Fairy just came out two generations ago, and adding new types would just make things even harder to balance
@alonsogarde4161
@alonsogarde4161 2 года назад
Play pokemon xenoverse,it has the most balanced sound type and its what pokemon needs
@Empty_Carbon
@Empty_Carbon 2 года назад
@@alonsogarde4161 doesn't that game also add like 3 other types and change interactions between types? That doesn't exactly scream "sound will save pokemon" to me since it would also hinge on adopting some or all of the other changes in the type chart made in that game.
@alonsogarde4161
@alonsogarde4161 2 года назад
@@Empty_Carbon it only adds sound
@C4rea
@C4rea 2 года назад
This was a really well-informed video. Thank you for making it.
@MediumDon
@MediumDon 2 года назад
When I saw the concept of the video, I was definitely against adding sound type, but I'm pretty much convinced now. Great vid!
@lt_potatogem6870
@lt_potatogem6870 2 года назад
this was a really cool explanation vid and i actually learnt a lot about soundwaves, thanks dude and i really hope that pokemon gets its well deserved sound type!!!
@RedRaikou
@RedRaikou 2 года назад
Types that could work: Sound, Light(Instead of Fairy) and some have said Cosmic Fun Fact: If we added both Light and Cosmic, Solrock would have to be 4 types: - Rock(It's made of Rock) - Psychic(Psychic abilities) - Light(It represents the sun) - Cosmic(It's from Space)
@possumpoison9897
@possumpoison9897 2 года назад
I love the format of this video. I hope more are coming soon
@mitchpitch
@mitchpitch 2 года назад
Yeah for sure i want to do a lot of pitch style videos like this one in the future
@42ndLife
@42ndLife 8 месяцев назад
According to western superstition ghosts are repelled by the ringing of a bell, so yeah, sound types moves should be super effective against ghost type pokemon
@ZER0H0UR333
@ZER0H0UR333 2 года назад
This was well made, I am patiently waiting for your next video especially now that we know the new region.
@radgiraffe5519
@radgiraffe5519 2 года назад
This is a really great idea, I think a couple of the retypings are off (some are a stretch - e.g. misdreavous- others are kinda perfect for their design as they are now - e.g. toxtrixity and politoad lines) but I love the concept in general, it fits a really cool gap, plus the retyping of "early game" normal moves like growl will just make the early games "pallet" of moves so to speak so much more interesting
@bernardobento9776
@bernardobento9776 2 года назад
I really like this idea I hope we see something like this in the near future, hopefully in Scarlett/Violet!
@rva3919
@rva3919 2 года назад
Great job on this video! I honestly thought you had a higher subscriber count just based on the quality of the video but I was surprised to see you’re brand new! Keep up the good work!
@roxienatura
@roxienatura 2 года назад
Really good video! It's good to see balance being sincerely considered in the addition of a new type.
@Leaapy
@Leaapy 2 года назад
Fun fact: when gen 3 was coming out they were planning to make an alien type for deoxys and also since clefairy and clefaible came from the moon, literally their type would become alien tol
@neekitsart990
@neekitsart990 2 года назад
I really like the idea of rebalancing the type matchups, and I like the thematic value of sound for some of the more boring normal pokemon (especially because normal is basically a non-type to me, which feels like a huge waste. I wish it resisted more things or something). That said, every current pokemon type is very easily arguable to be elemental. With the possible exception of fairy, ghost and psychic, but those are also very tangible states of being. Sound feels a little generic and unintuitive to me, and other people have already mentioned the issue with sound-based non-normal moves and stuff. It's hard, because there's an obvious emphasis on sound in the games that does feel underutilized, and a lot of those pokemon really need a buff, but it's a bit of a tough sell in terms of a whole new type
@mitchpitch
@mitchpitch 2 года назад
Yeah that's a good point. I do still think despite it not being elemental or tangible really that its deserving of a type. But based on some comments there's no denying that people just from the name 'sound type' would think its lame or confusing.
@bigkirbyhj666
@bigkirbyhj666 2 года назад
@@mitchpitch Honestly I like it being a move modifier than a typing. Like difference between physical or special, contact vs non-contact. Ya know give attacks with the sound modifier special attributes.
@L337P1R4735
@L337P1R4735 2 года назад
This is a really quality video dude well done.
@cannedman6301
@cannedman6301 2 года назад
I think we are forgetting that the move Throat Chop exist, wich prevents the target from using moves that emit sound for 2 turns. A singular move can shut down a entire type
@incrediblymai8362
@incrediblymai8362 2 года назад
Really interesting argument, you've got me just about convinced. The only hangup is how receptive people would be to a new type right now... One thing with the pokemon that could be changed to sound type- did you consider the Oricorios? Obviously it'd be a hard workaround considering each one has a different typing to go with its style (Baile being fire and flying and Sensu being ghost and flying, etc.) but they are all based on different dance styles- I would like to hear your thoughts on this even if nothing else!
@mitchpitch
@mitchpitch 2 года назад
Yeah im 100% with you on the first point, i think its unlikely just because of general public consensus despite how 'perfect' it would fit. People just think the name is dumb and dont want a new type which is understandable. And the oriocorios for sure, they dont really fly so they could replace the flying type of them
@DaShikuXI
@DaShikuXI 2 года назад
@@mitchpitch Tbf nobody ever asked for any of the added types, but they got accepted all the same. Taking the public consensus into account is not a good idea when you're trying to make change.
@rivercox8172
@rivercox8172 2 года назад
Wow! I was legit shocked when I saw how small your channel was. Which makes sense since it's your first real video. But this is a very high quality video and you def got a sub out of me. Near the start of your video, you mentioned that water has more pokemon than any other type. If you were to split water into 2 types what would they be like? I'd love to see a future video covering that
@mitchpitch
@mitchpitch 2 года назад
Yo thank you so much i appreciate that. And that is a mad interesting question about splitting up water type. I guesss you could do fresh and salt water type or like an amphibian type for pokemon like water type frogs. I doubt it would be split up ever but just the concept of it is fun to think about
@definitelynotandre8401
@definitelynotandre8401 2 года назад
Great job Mitch! I’m years out of Pokémon gaming and I still found this video really engaging. Looking forward to more!
@mitchpitch
@mitchpitch 2 года назад
Thanks man :)
@frickinfrick8488
@frickinfrick8488 2 года назад
Honestly these type matchups have more logic behind them than a lot of existing type matchups. You’ve convinced me this would be cool
@melovespoon
@melovespoon 2 года назад
I've been thinking about this for years, glad to learn I'm not alone edit: 9:07 hate that everyone forgets about conversion
@mitchpitch
@mitchpitch 2 года назад
Yeah i guess it would just be another conversion
@matheusps92
@matheusps92 2 года назад
I think Toxtricity should keep Electric/Poison, he already has that ability that boost sound based moves, just change it to "sound-type moves" and it's good enough for me.
@ninjaniknik6136
@ninjaniknik6136 2 года назад
I agree, Punk Rock should become a sound type version of steelworker, giving them a 3rd stab option
@Rhysins
@Rhysins 26 дней назад
Other possible Sound type pokemon candidates: Ludicolo (Either changes works) - It's obvious here. Plusle & Minun (Electric & Sound) - They are the cheering pokemon. Or a possible evolution that both could go into? Vibrava & Flygon (Change to Ground / Sound) - Vibrava's dex entries talk about it creating ultrasonic waves that cause people to have headaches. And Flygon's wings vibrating in sandstorms sounding like singing in multiple entries. There's enough Dragon / Sound in your database. Swablu & Altaria - (Either changes works) Swablu being a songbird & Altaria having a ton of entries about it's voice. Roggelrola/Boldore/Gigalith (Rock/Sound) - The whole line echo locate/are attracted to sounds like a magnet, plus it's a rock/sound type combo. New forms for Rotom & Oricorio would also make sense Also for those that know... SINGING... DOG!
@willcooper8028
@willcooper8028 2 года назад
This video is awesome. Looks like a change of direction for you based on the rest of your channel, but I’ll have an eye out for more stuff like this :)
@TheTeraFurret
@TheTeraFurret 2 года назад
I agree with all your points but some tells me even if we got the sound type, we are not getting a new Eevee evolution because each Eevee evolution has one stat that is higher than all the others, but since each stat has been used for the evolutions, there’s no other Stat that can be higher than the other ones without overlapping with another Eevee evolution.
@mitchpitch
@mitchpitch 2 года назад
Ooo ive never heard of that thats interesting
@ILikeKirbys
@ILikeKirbys 2 года назад
That's been true since Leafeon & Glaceon though, with Glaceon sharing its 130 Special Attack with Espeon, and we still got Sylveon, who has Special Defense as its highest stat like Umbreon.
@fawfulmark2
@fawfulmark2 2 года назад
Echoleon would just have 130 Base HP.
@TheTeraFurret
@TheTeraFurret 2 года назад
@@fawfulmark2 Vaporeon already took that
@thefishchef
@thefishchef 2 года назад
I Really enjoyed this, like Really. Do you think you could make another video like this but with other custom types instead like, delta, light, magic, virtual, cosmic, and probably not because it wouldnt make much sense but mutant. Great video keep it up!
@mitchpitch
@mitchpitch 2 года назад
Yeah for sure i was considering making a cosmic of light type video as well
@jdsjigglypuff9419
@jdsjigglypuff9419 2 года назад
I really don't think any type would work other than sound since most cosmics would fall into Psychic and most lights would fall into Fairy
@mitchpitch
@mitchpitch 2 года назад
@@jdsjigglypuff9419 I dont think any type would work outside of sound type maybe cosmic type. But it would still be fun making videos on the types and speculating what pokemon would be changed what the type super effectiveness may be etc
@apackalu2718
@apackalu2718 2 года назад
You gave an example of a rebuttal as just being a talking pokemon but even that has potential either story or combat wise for weord or cool attacks or plot points
@smugboi_
@smugboi_ 2 года назад
Ngl pretty good stuff. I'm excited where to see where you go with this. I could totally see you with a couple 100k subs in the next few years.
@mitchpitch
@mitchpitch 2 года назад
Dude thank you so much !
@xyz6343
@xyz6343 2 года назад
I've also been thinking about this kind of thing, most of my same thoughts were in this video.
@Salva_632
@Salva_632 2 года назад
Aight, Pokemon that could change to sound type but don't really need to are pokemon like spinda, primarina, Jynx, maybe even Mr. Rime or lilligant. Regardless, very good video, definitely subscribing! Also, I really liked what you did with toxtricity. One of the reasons I didn't see sound type possible was because there was a lot of pokemon that have types that fit them a lot and are sound based, toxtricity being a perfect example for that. But you managed to fix it by making one toxtricity sound-electric and the other sound-poison, making it still electric-poison and also adding in the sound type. Very clever.
@mitchpitch
@mitchpitch 2 года назад
Ooooo mr rime thats a good pick. Tap dancing pokemon ice/sound maybe. Also thank you :)
@yagovex
@yagovex 2 года назад
wish the best for your channel man
@13DarkForce
@13DarkForce 8 месяцев назад
I think Sound should be immune to itself for the simple fact that opposing sound waves cancels each other
@SkyeBerryJam
@SkyeBerryJam 2 года назад
Oof, the scarlet and violet announcements kinda annihilated the Australia theory eh
@Ditidos
@Ditidos 2 года назад
Personally, I think an artificial/human/mythic type would make more sense. There are tons of Pokémon that are monotype which could receive it (or whose typing is not that fitting, or isn't anymore) like Abra, Porygon, Klink, Smeargle, regular Farfetch'd, Magikarp (and Gyarados potentially), Feebas and Lilipup for example, plus it's not something already defined in the game unlike sounds which has multiple abilities that interact with it due to being a movement property. This also has the possibility to bring back the theming steel lost in gen 6 of robotics and bring it back for those Pokémon while giving an excuse to rework hugely ice as well as to shake the type chart a bit. All that said, with the announcement of the new games, I think a new type is highly unlikely, I was already a detractor of the idea for a new type from the start, heck, I even had my doubts of a new type during the annoucement of gen 6 when we got a new type. Mainly because I don't think Pokémon needs a new type. Sound is an interesting type to make for a type-based game, though, so I would definetly fine interesting to see it in a diferent franchise/game.
@josea.ruizquinones9262
@josea.ruizquinones9262 2 года назад
Those sound more like body-types rather than typing. I dont want a Fish-type or Bird-type or Beast-type or Reptile-type. You get the point.
@Ditidos
@Ditidos 2 года назад
@@josea.ruizquinones9262 Not at all. It's a type more based on things created by humans. It has an artificial flavour to it, taking a little from robots as well as from myth or legendary creatures, or buildings, art pieces, etc. Not all object Pokémon would be affected nor would be human Pokémon. It is more abstract. All that said, we do have a bug type, a dragon type and a ghost type which are all fairly body-based on principle. Bug particularly.
@nicholasgreaves3548
@nicholasgreaves3548 Год назад
Giving the bug type a sound immunity would go along way because it can play a major role when paired with other types that would be weak to sound like ground, steel, fairy, and water. Imagine scizor with 2 immunities. And since the steel/fairy would be 4× weak to sound it will no longer be the number one best duel type.
@tristanrivera5066
@tristanrivera5066 2 года назад
great video :) excited to see where u goooo
@blazedj
@blazedj 2 года назад
This caught my eye because I love Pokemon and I often love the use of elements in games and such, but I still don't see it as a viable addition, especially over something like a Light-based type. When it comes to the balancing, I could give you the effectiveness against Psychic and Ghost because, as you said, it'd be hard to concentrate. Specifically, it's hard to think properly with loud distractions, and, operating from a vibration aspect, as I imagine that Ghost is simply energy gathered and concentrated in a singular spot, the vibration would break this concentration apart as the energy wouldn't have any kind of container to contain it, in a sense. Ground and Rock could potentially be weak to the vibration aspect of Sound, but, for the same reason, Ice should probably be weak as well. At least with Ground and Rock, it's as much of a stretch as Steel. Things with such densely packed molecules or atoms are difficult to break apart without the help of extreme temperature or effects. For instance, Ground is effective against Steel, I assume, because you'd think of something like a car falling apart during an earthquake, but that's more the assembled pieces that aren't held together well enough, rather than a singular, solid object, such as the car's doors. For this reason, I can't think of a strong enough vibration to, in a sense, be effective against elements as dense and sturdy as Steel and Ground. Then, Water is probably the weakest argument, since sound/hearing is muffled in water. Sure a vibration may disturb the surface, but it doesn't really seem to do much in the negative sense. Even though I don't think it fits well, at least as well as Light, I wouldn't mind if it was included. A shakeup of the battle dynamics is always welcomed in my book. I remember a fan game that used Sound as a type, and it seemed to work well. In it, I believe that Sound was weak to Flying and ineffective to Water, but I don't remember what it was weak to.
@mitchpitch
@mitchpitch 2 года назад
Im gonna cover this comment in the follow up video. Your points are very solid.
@endy7630
@endy7630 2 года назад
I honestly don't like the idea of the light type either, it feels very redundant. We a have plenty of other moves that incorporate light that span multiple types: Dazzling Gleam, Photon Geyser, Sunny Day, Solar Beam, Light Screen, the list goes on. It doesn't really makes sense to make a light type when so many other typings incorporate light.
@Oscar-ek2jx
@Oscar-ek2jx 2 года назад
You somehow forgot Exploud can cause earthquakes with sound. This isnt real life its pokemon and pokemon are insane and dont really apply to real life. Blastoise can cut through steel with its cannons which isnt something you can usually do without a specialised machine
@Sarah12471
@Sarah12471 2 года назад
@@Oscar-ek2jx Yes, however most of the pokemon noted as being sound type cannot do that, and personally i don't see the need to make sound it's own type as the things that it isn't very effective on makes sense for sound and normal
@Leig5H0T
@Leig5H0T 2 года назад
We already have a "light type" It's fairy
@BestgirlJordanfish
@BestgirlJordanfish 2 года назад
So here's my pitch of how to introduce a sound type: Pokemon Treble and Pokemon Bass. I'd like the greater California mega region do we get a Hollywood type of story and adventure. The region itself can have different leaders be inspired by different perspectives of the arts. Theater, remixing, cooking, painting, etc. The box legendaries of Treble and Bass can also each be Sound type. The regional gimmick can literally be "Harmony Moves", like how we have synergy moves, sync moves, or unite moves in spinoffs, perhaps pokemon building a meter let you do a Special big move. The longer the meter, the more powerful the Harmony Move, or maybe even can be used to let certain pokemon transform or pseudo-mega. Additional sound type pokemon that could be fun: Turntables, steel/sound Cardinal/Blue Jay, flying/sound
@ajoesaint5858
@ajoesaint5858 2 года назад
Great video, looking forward to the follow up!
@normalgamergal
@normalgamergal 2 года назад
What a great video from a newer creator! You admittedly didn't really have to convince me, but I still really enjoyed your explanation and it helped make me even more interested in a type I've wanted since Gen 1.
@normalgamergal
@normalgamergal 2 года назад
Oh, and subscribed because you definitely earned it.
@mitchpitch
@mitchpitch 2 года назад
I love your positivity lmao. I appreciate it :)
@barrington5438
@barrington5438 2 года назад
And then, once they add sound, it’d be the perfect time to add voices to the game. This would bring more life to the game(especially the cutscenes)
@rafflesia5165
@rafflesia5165 2 года назад
If pokemon snap can have voice acting why not the mainline games
@barrington5438
@barrington5438 2 года назад
@@rafflesia5165 that’s what I’m saying. There would be willing people too since there’s so many fans of the franchise
@plazmatic2664
@plazmatic2664 2 года назад
Favourite pokemon is Golurk! Love the sound type idea! We desperately need a new flare to the game.
@fen_u9401
@fen_u9401 2 года назад
thing is if they add a sound type all sound based moves become sound type and normal types will only have tri attack and all the mechanics that sound moves have: -being blocked by sound proof and throat chop -ignoring substitutes -activating throat spray -having signature abilities like punk rock -sound moves already having different typed moves (snarl, strange spell, metal sound) will all just count for a singular type ._. I dunno about this but, i have an idea for a normal special move that is not sound based: force wave 90 bp the user sends out a (generic) power wave, this move has a 20% chance to flinch also: if psychic is getting another weakness without new resistances then goodbye psychic types, cya in PU also also: this is a great video🔥 I like your ideas and I love that grass and ice and bug get a buff great ideas! you earned a sub👍
@squawk-box
@squawk-box 2 года назад
good vid! i'd been somewhat ambivalent to the idea of the sound type before watching this, because i couldn't figure any good reasons for type matchups through my research, but you have 6 strong arguments for that! definitely keeping my audio type for my pokelike now
@VenomNightGaming
@VenomNightGaming 2 года назад
I would give it that fairy super effectiveness, as well as make it resist dark type (think of sonar making you able to notice something coming at you in the dark), but give it another weakness in poison type (honestly this one is to balance it for adding those 2 buffs, and I image being sick you get hoarse and can’t sing, but that’s a stretch). And if you wanna double down on making it a glass-cannon offensive threat, you should make it super effective to ghost, but also take double damage from ghost.
@jamiemccreath3959
@jamiemccreath3959 2 года назад
Agree on Fairy, but Dark is less about literal darkness and more about evil, plus I don't think Dark should be debuffed. I think making Bug immune to Sound would be perfect though. I think the Poison thing is too much of a stretch, but you did just make me realize adding a Sound type would be a MASSIVE buff to Throat Chop.
@ralinwilliams6061
@ralinwilliams6061 2 года назад
@@jamiemccreath3959 yesss
@mattjayce2339
@mattjayce2339 8 месяцев назад
Rillaboom should be Grass/Sound, but then again, Cinderace should be Fire/Fighting and Inteleon should be Water/Dark.
@xemirahobbyless
@xemirahobbyless 2 года назад
RU-vid recommended your channel and I really enjoyed this video! I always wondered what sound type would look like. You did a great analysis and the length of the video was also ideal in my opinion. PS: I like all bird pokemon, but my favorite is probably Torchic
@mitchpitch
@mitchpitch 2 года назад
Yo thank you so much :). Torchic is a great pokemon
@waffelnuss3980
@waffelnuss3980 2 года назад
I enjoyed this video, keep it up man
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