Why Rammstein is under pressure  

@@dritanstojanovic4576what

In my experience the truth is almost always in the middle somewhere.

@@3rdreichball525 that is just an opinion,like everything else

@johnny666nitro no, actually if you read my comment I said, "in my experience..." this is clearly a fact. Not an opinion. In my life when 2 people are arguing the truth has always fallen somewhere in the middle

@@3rdreichball525 your experience, that proves my point...

Exactly. There have been so many instances of false accusations that hurt the reputation of the accused and simultaneously hurts real victims, who become doubly afraid to come forward due to fears of being associated with the false claims. I am not surprised they found nothing and I believe there should be harsher penalties for people caught fabricating claims of abuse.

@@enlightenedasylumgaming yup. Like my ex dumped me cause he couldn’t coerce me into things. Next chick he dated did end up graped and she never reported out of fear of being told she’s falsely accusing him. All due to so many people abusing the system.

To true im an SA Survivor and i could won my case but depending where you live the court tries to blame you/attacks your life. this why i never pushed on mine. the females who lie hurt the rest of us who actually had been SA'ed my ex did it multiple times and each time he blamed me coupled with low self-esteem and being in a bad spot in life. I did not want the pressure.

I will always laugh at the irony that people use the POUND sign for MeToo.. like who thought this was a good idea? Pound Me TOO? Bruh

they just want their money

The Twitter girl tried the same thing reportably on other metal bands, iron maiden, ACDC just to name a few.

​@h0lyshark508 she should feel absolute shame.

​@@h0lyshark508 AC/DC?!?!😭😭

@@burger322 Yep.

Who exactly? You’re generalizing and I’m confused

For some, a simple accusation is all that's needed to ruin their idea of them. But if I'm honest, most of the people who now claim to despise him or be against him were never really fans of his anyway. Probably been looking for reasons to hate him the whole time.

I will always love rammstein 😊

Yep

I have to say they are one of my favourite bands but while the investigation was going on I cancelled my plans to go to the concerts, did not buy any merch etc. For me its not about being a "fake fan" bc honestly? I am here for their music, I dont have that parasocial relationship going on🤷 So I felt that potentially supporting someone doing the horrible things Lindemann was being accused of felt wrong to ME. I dont think that makes me a fake fan, and if it does? Well though luck I guess 😂

@@petervamvakaries yep. They're desperate to look like a goody goody.

I mean it wouldn’t be crazy. The guys a fucking pervert.

It ended up being all bullshit lol, freaking disgusting people

I don't give sh what anyone says about anybody or even what the court of law says. People have been wrongly convicted. If I like you, I like you and some random accusation will not change that. If you're easily swayed from your favorite band by a random accusation, you are unstable and easily manipulated.

And of course he was proven guilty ❤️

@@jasbelial3943 nah

If anyone doesn't like Rammstein... FAH-Q

Real

Duh...😊

I’m a woman and would be honoured if he chose me. Some accuser said she knew what she was chosen for. Still went. The girl who started said he didn’t touch her, but posing with bruises… I got some really bad relation$hits, even just recently Mr got physical, and still didn’t have that’s kind of bruises. So without touching, 🤔 anyway. Probably I’m not his cup of tea, but I would die before him if he covers my body with his. And I hope this doesn’t end the band.

​@fabolvaskarika7940 if you look at the picture of her "bruises" you can litrally see the bruise makeup on her pants 😂 she's a joke

Yeah man, he is a saint. Such a holy man hahah

​@@user-vt5nc8xr4q Your idea of sainthood is a lie.

He is definitely a pillar to the community 😒

Even if he dr*gged & SA'd ppl? 😳 that's wild lmao

@@JaseekaRawr That's not what he said. Logic is being innocent until proven guilty and not the other way.

huge W

​@@JaseekaRawrexcuse me nothing is yet confirmed. 😂

@@wh00t14 Then apply that same charity to the others who accused him. There are *tons* of victims. When we say "believe all victims" we don't mean believe anything anyone says, we just mean to not immediately doubt the victims, like y'all are doing right now. Best thing to do is to wait for evidence, of which there is a LOT of, now. A German YTer in Ohio made a great vid documenting all the evidence & it looks very, very bad. Also their music is bad 😆 Like the type of music that appeals to teens. So that makes a lot of sense lmao. They target the impressionable. 🤮

So you dont have a Problem with him sleeping with a 15 years old Girl as a middle aged man ?

@@marvin2678 he has never done that.

​@@marvin2678the simple statement is innocent until proven guilty regardless You r@ped me Should you be assumed innocent as what I said could be a lie until I give actual proof that not only did it happen but that it was you OR Should you just be assumed to be guilty, thrown in jail, banned from any career continuing deals, and have to pull together proof that it didn't happen for the chance to walk free? This has nothing to do with the individual and everything to do with the base line.

It's true tho. But they're bearly billionaires, what can you do... Sth similar happened to me too, not with Rammstein tho. And I'm a fan and will remain a fan, but I'm extremely sure the accusations are right.

It should've been reported right away. Even if something horrible happened, waiting 10 years or 20 or 50 to say "something happened." Shouldn't be automatically accepted as 100% fact.

Her own friend who also was present said that it didn't go down how she said

She also later said that Till didn't touch her

@@arvindkaraimangat4585 she said she was Drugged by Till but there's video evidence showing signs of her being already drugged or drunk before the after-party.

She's tried the same thing with metallica and slipknot

Doesnt make any differences between what happened

Bro's got dozens upon dozens of charges lining up. That's crazy amounts of witnesses. Innocent until proven guilty is great and all but let's stay more neutral than "till is not a criminal"

​@@adamgillespie3393people bandwagon once one person starts a lie to have their moment 😅 have you not learned anything? Because you sure seem to be leaning one way

​​@@jackpaterson5949'all are such fans you can't even have an open mind lol. We're not saying to immediately believe the victims, we're saying to not immediately call them liars. The fact you're doing so says a lot about you: that you're willing to excuse SA if it's done by someone you like. 😬 Like at least give it a little time for the rest of the facts to come out instead of defensively defending them & calling the potential victims liars. Try to not be so reactionary.

How do you know Till is innocent? Are you his relative or a very close friend of his? These allegations need to be taken seriously and they need to be investigated.

Those people are pushing too hard, just like Amber herd 😹

"Bring me the man, I will find the crime" Joseph Stalin

Pick meeee 😂 There's countless victims coming forward. Occam's Razor applies here. It's not logical that countless victims who don't even know one another all conspired against him. That's silly. I hope you've never been a victim of SA, bc it feels horrible to not be believed & have ppl defend their abuser. It's happening to me, right now. My own family is disowning me in favor of my PDF file father. Don't believe anything anyone says, but also don't instinctively defend possible predators & dismiss victims. That's wrong on so many levels.

@@JaseekaRawr Before you judge me, take a step back. You don't know me and I would never judge you to start off with. When I feel someone has not done something wrong, I stand by it. I am not dismissing anyone. I feel this man is being set up, and a lot of it for monetary reasons if you really want to know my opinion. Also, my Mom was a victim of SA, so don't tell me I don't know what it's like. My mom dealt with it her whole life that's how it affected her. My grandfather SA her until she was 10 years old because that's when he died. Then more abuse came from other relatives and more SA. I am sorry for what you are going through and that you are being dismissed, I am sorry your family has disowned you, and I do know what that is like. So if I am wrong about Till, I'll be the first to admit it, because I admit when I am wrong.

@@JaseekaRawrcountless victims??? Countless?? That’s pure nonsense!

Till is not even a gentleman. He is a KNIGHT He can cripple a man who is offensive towards a woman (any woman) In my whole life i have never met a man who is more respectful with all women then Till He is very shy actually. That’s why he s wearing makeup. Kind of hiding behind a mask But he is the sweetest, kindest, most caring and gentle person. Whole scandal was orchestrated by a person close to the band. All because money. They already made like a million € in donations You ll read about it in newspapers once his lawyers are done

You'd be surprised. People have their own demons and vices.

Another....pseudointellectual US American who thinks capslock is doing him any favors.

Is that a conscious reference?

@@bedlam.0 not sure what you mean?

Might be for the better. But if you are curious, look up Na Chui - Till the End.

My Wife's name is Amy

Because those accusations are orchestrated by powerful organizations who want to get rid of someone.

@@chillichan Nope. Just women looking for a quick, risk-free buck. Because sadly, there's never any legal consequences for women.

Welcome in 2024

Turns out that she didn't, it was a reporter she talked to that lied.

agreed 1000%

I agree 100%, all parties should have tp abide by any type of support contract.

why?

It shouldn't be illegal but it's an indicator that the accusation is orchestrated from powerful people.

It would be difficult to make it outright illegal, but these companies should deff publicly apologize and do reparations for their severed ties. Tho this should be reserved only for cases when the accused is completely proven innocent, which is sadly becoming much more frequent after brutal public ragging

Really sounds like Black Sabbath

Thank you for your comment. The video was published on June 12, 2023, when the allegations became public. Since then, several events have taken place, which we also addressed in this short: ru-vid.comKnRXjq3qWQY?si=8PNN9-6sskaIJFwk

Yes i hope people get the most out of Rammsteins last tour.

@@Raffney Seen them countless times live and will so again this weekend. Will be able to listen to their records until I die so I will be fine. And I hopefully will also see how their lawyer will destroy the media and the accusers when Till goes free.

If only a single one of these girls is a true victim then he belongs in prison. Case closed

I thought this is my chance to buy a ticket! No way, to get good and cheap tickets at all. Thats fake news!!!

Hundreds of tickets were sold for the Munich concerts using fansale - for the original price.

Thanks for your comment. This video was posted in June of last year before the charges were dropped. Because of the immense public interest in the case, a lot of outlets were reporting on it.

@@DWHistoryandCulture i saw it yesteraday random in my Shorts.

@@Coolrocksta the system isn’t perfect but there would be far more innocent people in prison if we didn’t have a presumption of innocence until proven guilty. Just think about it.

In a court of law, absolutely. But in the court of public opinion, people are free to decide whether or not they believe the countless testimonies coming out.

Presumption of guilt without evidence is dangerous. And all it takes is for you to be on the receiving end of that crap 1 time, and you'll never presume someone guilty without proof again. A famous Supreme Court Judge once said : "A liberal is just a conservative that hasn't been mugged yet."

@@Coolrocksta As bad as it is when guilty people walk free, it is even worse when innocent people are punished.

I don't give sh what anyone says about anybody or even what the court of law says. People have been wrongly convicted. If I like you, I like you and some random accusation will not change that. If you're easily swayed from your favorite band by a random accusation, you are unstable and easily manipulated. Also, you're disloyal.

🙄 Kraftwerk

Scorpions are

@@didi-bc1xs well they sing in English xD many people dosent even know they are from germany XD even many Germans dident realy know them. Their singer once sayed "we are worldfamous but no one in Germany seems to know us"

@@fj1659 true that. If we gonna look by the language they sing on,thats true. But i still think that Scorpions are successful. Rammstein has aggressive advertisment. Like their concert and music videos always shows even for me and I dont listen to them.

@@didi-bc1xs well... maybe watch some Making of Videos and read some good translations. Many people misunderstood tham over the years. In a Making of video a director says "at first i dont want to driect their music video. I dont cear much for their music and always beleved they were just Stupit aggressive pyrolovers. Than i gave tham a chance and looked deeper and agreed to be their video-director, because i realised i got them all wrong" As for the Scorpoins, yes, they are successful. Probably internationally at least as successful as Rammstein, if you take performances at the MSC in NY as a measure of success, the Scorpions have maybe even a bit more success. But it has to be said that the Scorpions didnt manage that in their native language and possibly never would have done so. of course, this is also due to reasons that the Scorpions probably couldnt have influenced.

Thank you for commenting. In fact, Lindemann was not acquitted; rather, the investigations were dropped. Whether he is legally guilty or not could not be determined.

Absolutely! No doubt about it 😁! This kinda scandal is expected once you reach a certain level of fame, Rammstein is no different, the fact that they’re the same 6 band mates since the started in the late 90’s tells you a lot about them! “ Rammstein über Allen “ 😂

Says a person who can't even spell his name right... 😂

@@missdrool dude its 1 L. Calm down ... tis the irony of predictive txt 🤷‍♀️

@@kayleighgunton9060 Take a chill pill bro.

@@kayleighgunton9060 You too babe 😘

​@@missdroolyou are the kind of woman who would lie about this scandal how about calm the fuck down. It's not confirmed yet.

Not saying that he's guilty, but the 70s had a lot of rockstars just publicly dating teenage girls. We absolutely shouldn't go back to that.

❤❤❤

Сама "жертва" сказала, что он её спросил. После отказа, она пошла на вечеринку. В чем проблема? Тест присутствия наркотиков не показал. Синяки ? Видео показало, что на вечеринке она упала на стул. Просто кто то хотел внимания любой ценой, даже ценой репутации кумира. Так даже круче! Об этом часто приходит мысль, когда смотришь на фотографии некоторых фанатов, которые фотографируют "себя любимого" на фоне Тилля: "Какой я крутой на фоне этого с знаменитого чувака "😅😢. Я думаю её никто ни о чём не просил. Вот в чём беда. А ей так хотелось внимания! Это еще большее оскорбление, чем приставание. А может приставала она и вдруг отказ?! Какой удар по самолюбию!

the biggest issue is, Its always been common knowledge that going backstage, there was a ton of sexual orgies and stuff of the type going on. Lotta people refuse to be accountable for being stupid and doing dumb shit.

@@djsk244xactly my opinion on this, our man Till is a easy target, since he can portray a lot of twisted characters in his lyrics, and make the listeners view them in another light! I can’t quite put my finger on it, but they’re very talented with the writing and the music, so even if you do not understand the lyrics, you still have a very good idea what is happening, unfortunately, this makes Till look like a dark and dangerous figure to people who are not familiar with their type of music

Till.. a misunderstood artist ❤

@@Nonick_nickno Well Said!! My introduction to Rammstein Music was very slowly paced! Especially the music videos 🤯, had to take some time to digest what I just saw 👀! Despite their dark monotonous music and moody vocals, they always manage to mess around and have a good time 😁

@@imacmill No evidence at all, just accusations moved through a Twitter account by this psychotic chick. Believe her if that makes you happy.

@@imacmillwhy do you believe the accuser?!

@@imacmill I don’t, you believe the accuser…

@@imacmill you said you dont believe lindemann

@@imacmill you dont believe that lindemann is not guilty. Eather that or you are just provoking by that question that you asked in the beginning, because why would you otherwise ask it?

If its true his career will go straight down the toliet bubba...the band will fold quicker than Superman on laundry day

​@@thulsadoom544can't say that about Michael Jackson, can you?

You're not wrong but why do you want this to be true so bad? 🤔

Yeh setzt dich nicht mit der Thematik auseinander und labberst iwas von Verschwörungen. Geh dich bilden Bro.

​@@rival.showtime7177😂 Sagt der richtige, der nach der dritten Klasse die Schule abgebrochen hat, was der Schreibweise nach zu beurteilen ist.

@@Herr_der_Schluessel Schraubär, genieß deinen Sonntag, bevor es zurück in die sklaverei geht, du kek.

@@rival.showtime7177 🤣 kannst Du vergessen, bin selbstständig. Aber bei dir ist Hopfen und Malz verloren. Würd jetzt mal runter vom Gas sonst wird's richtig peinlich bei dir. Ich schmeiß mich weg!😂

Und warum sollten Leute, die eigentlich Fans waren und zur Aftershow-Party gegangen sind, denn lügen? Es sind ja nicht ein paar Vorwürfe, es sind mehrere Dutzend Frauen, die detailliert davon berichten (ich wüsste nicht, was die davon haben sollten) und sogar eidesstattliche Erklärungen unterschrieben haben, die Wahrheit gesagt zu haben

Perfect

You think there is justice in this World grow up

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​@@DWHistoryandCultureOk bro. The German press did an absolute hatchet job on Till Lindemann. Its because of shit like this that allows tyrants to rise. The media is supposed to hold those in power to account. It is not your job to make the news. You're supposed to report them. But what can you expect when the media only wants s fat payday? Democracy dies when people no longer trust the media. You're trading in your credibility for clicks & eyeballs. You would assume Germany knew better.

@@DWHistoryandCulture Did you report that Vilnius dropped the case? Most Media did not bring it, because you can never bring something positive, when you want to see someone falling. Who is paying you? The German government? Bill Gates? I know that Gates pays at least BBC? So? TELL US!!!!

You meant that play on words, correct? That's genius

BS this very well could bubba

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Manson and depp already learned today its guilty until proven

Absolutely right!!!

Hows it cancel culture allegations have been levied at the lead singer ...you dont think police should investigate....or that the media whores should be silienced

​@@lukasmuller3894wrong

​@thulsadoom544 get a life.

I gree 🙌🇦🇷

Till should face punishment before their being concrete evidence? OK, so I accuse you of sleeping with a minor. Now go be punished for that while evidence to the contrary awaits. See ya.

What? That’s not even how the law works at least I believe so. I’m not an expert in German law so I don’t know for sure but I’m pretty sure innocent until proven guilty is a thing in Germany. If so then it’d actually be illegal to give him punishment, also that’s just a dumb way to think in general. You shouldn’t just punish someone because someone else said they did something, the accuser needs evidence, and if they don’t have any then the defendant is probably not guilty.

i dont think til did it. the band is way too silent outside of music.

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Or they are just to useless to work.

There is such a law in germany, its called Meineid (perjury). Giving a false testimony during a trial is punished with 1 - 5 years depending on how hard those accusations were and how much damage they already inflicted. In this case, that girl will very likely be sentenced for the lower end of the spectrum, but without probation, since she already has similar incidents filed.

Of course, 'they' did it😂

They rejected the Elite advancements XD

So sehe ich das genauso ‼️🤟

Barron's, which is owned by Rupert Murdoch, has jumped on this story. I find it extra sketchy. And Till hanging out with Russian enabler Aleena Makeeva also is suspicious. The band must find its way out of this mess, and if Till is guilty, he should be brought to justice. If he is innocent, it's a horrendous way to try and ruin things for a band and its employees, and all the extra people making $ as they tour. There are millions being made, and maybe they pissed someone off that wanted to cash in. Their tours bring $ into local economies from fans.

Till has a good connection to Russia. That piss people off.

still need to know this

@@akirjohnson8046 jep

Can anyone find this song?

same

did you end up finding it?

We will keep an eye on the developments and report as usual, fair and unbiased.

Thank you for your comment. The video was published on June 12, 2023, when the allegations became public. Since then, several events have taken place, which we also addressed in this short: ru-vid.comKnRXjq3qWQY?si=8PNN9-6sskaIJFwk

​@@DWHistoryandCulture Video was published June 12, 2023...blah blah blah TODAY ! ...his innocence has been proven! And as long as the clip is still online, you are suggesting a false accusation that makes people believe lies, as many comments prove.

​@@Holilo7The truth. This should be dropped or clearly stated in THIS clip that he's been cleared.

​@@DWHistoryandCultureCombine the clips. This is misleading.

@@Lee-jh6cr I thought that DW was a serious medium. Yaw for clicks with false accusations may now be socially acceptable?🤷