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Why Rattata is The Fastest Pokemon for Gen 2 Speedruns 

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@PulseEffects
@PulseEffects Год назад
I think Youngster Joey was onto something 🐀
@eternvll
@eternvll Год назад
🐀
@JUMPYCOOL
@JUMPYCOOL Год назад
🐀
@pixilmon
@pixilmon Год назад
He’s the reason why red went to mt silver
@finesseandstyle
@finesseandstyle Год назад
rats, rats, we are the rats🐀
@lukefreund08
@lukefreund08 Год назад
In blaze black, Joey literally has a top percentage Ratatta with flame wheel in the dream yard
@r-18altaccount85
@r-18altaccount85 Год назад
the fact that a video about an old-gen pokemon game is sponsored by a hair loss treatment company is giving me emotional damage
@PulseEffects
@PulseEffects Год назад
Ya know, I never connected these facts together until I read this. I'm also in pain now. 😭
@PopcornMax179
@PopcornMax179 Год назад
Don't wait until it's too late fellas 😭
@meinman7591
@meinman7591 Год назад
I'm not even remotely old (turned 17 yesterday) but this got me shaking wtf
@joshtheryuk
@joshtheryuk Год назад
I just shaved my head and didn't give a fu... Did i do it wrong? Lol.
@CasualPokePlayer
@CasualPokePlayer Год назад
Some minor things I'd like to point up: Hidden Power is not actually faster than sticking with Mud Slap. I massively overestimated the amount of time Mud Slap lost, and it's turning out that sticking with Mud Slap ended up with around ~1:10-1:20 of timesave (the exact number is fuzzy as the newest iteration of the TAS isn't complete). Although in any case this just easily cements Rattata as the best option for TAS. "RNG seed" isn't quite an accurate way of describing of Gen 2s RNG (although it is appropriate for describing Gen 3+'s RNG). The RNG rather works in tandem with a hardware timer; in this case it's just a fast timer that loops from 0-255 constantly. Even more ridiculously, the RNG simply takes this timer at points and does a simple substraction on the current RNG state. Slightly altering inputs alters the time this timer is queried, thus modifying the RNG. Route 35 (route north of Goldenrod) is quite different in Pokemon Gold compared to Crystal. While Crystal it can be passed by avoiding spinners, this is not the case in Gold, where there are static trainers which must be fought if that route is taken. The Abra timesave also misses the point that it is used for getting to the Power Plant twice, with the first time taking Rock Tunnel rather than the route east of Cerulean. The reason is again another Gold/Crystal difference. Gold has more unavoidable trainers east of Cerulean compared to Crystal, so while it's better for Crystal to use that route, it is not for Gold, which opts instead to use Rock Tunnel, then use the Pokemon Center right after Rock Tunnel for an Abra teleport spot for the second trip to the Power Plant. (These reasons are also why Abra is used in RTA, they of course turn out to apply to the TAS too).
@PulseEffects
@PulseEffects Год назад
Very very interesting and exciting. I'm looking forward to the next TAS then. 👀🐀
@alanfournumbers
@alanfournumbers Год назад
keep on cooking goat
@alexlamoureux1049
@alexlamoureux1049 Год назад
I'm excited to see the new TAS! Do you need a strategy to beat Jasmine like X Attack, or just spam Hyper Fang?
@CasualPokePlayer
@CasualPokePlayer Год назад
@@alexlamoureux1049 Jasmine just needs an X Attack, then her teams goes down easily enough without Hidden Power (instead of Hidden Power x2 Hyper Fang Hidden Power x2, it goes X Attack Mud Slap x2 Hyper Fang x3. Slight bonus here that mitigates some timeloss is the extra flinch here. (also this is a re-reply as the previous one was wrong, I apparently can't even remember my own work lol)
@benjadryl_7393
@benjadryl_7393 Год назад
@@CasualPokePlayer you're awesome, keep up the good work king
@NeonNobility
@NeonNobility Год назад
Ive never heard someone pronounce "Ecruteak" more incorrectly in my life
@googaboogaloo
@googaboogaloo Год назад
He massacred that poor pronunciation
@leftysheppey
@leftysheppey Год назад
It's on purpose. You fell for the bait to increase engagement
@BlueBillionPoundBottleJobs
@BlueBillionPoundBottleJobs Год назад
​@leftysheppey you fell for the pronunciation correction bait comment used to increase engagement
@googaboogaloo
@googaboogaloo Год назад
@@leftysheppey damn that’s genius. I had no idea
@thekiss2083
@thekiss2083 Год назад
That's how I said it as a kid. Took me like 15 years to realize it was weird
@TheCassiusTain
@TheCassiusTain Год назад
the final question is though: Would this still beat out the Totodile TAS if the player named their avatar "Joey" insteaed of A?
@SomeNinety._.
@SomeNinety._. Год назад
no
@bigedwerd
@bigedwerd 11 месяцев назад
I recently completed my first Nuzlocke challenge in Pokemon Blue and after losing my first Pokemon UsagiJimbo the Nidorino to a Raticate's Hyper Fang I would get PTSD when a Rattata or Raticate would show up.
@RiruRana
@RiruRana Год назад
7:51 please don't tell me that's actually how Ecruteak is pronounced
@MarbleOceans
@MarbleOceans Год назад
Jesus no 😂 Eh-kru-teek I’m fairly sure
@naaga7932
@naaga7932 Год назад
Eck-kru-teak
@Eroil
@Eroil Год назад
The knowledge of that pronunciation is kept for the gods
@gibran6190
@gibran6190 Год назад
It’s not lol
@RiruRana
@RiruRana Год назад
@@naaga7932 that's what I always assumed it was @_@
@shadowgoku6009
@shadowgoku6009 Год назад
Joey would be proud
@oakgreenoak
@oakgreenoak Год назад
Red in shambles after having his entire party wiped out by a single Raticate. Now that's some real karma for the SS Anne thing.
@muggyate
@muggyate Год назад
the real top % ratata.
@Razmatschannel
@Razmatschannel Год назад
I have never heard someone pronounce Ecruteak so insanely before (it’s pronounced Ek-Ro-Teek/ Ek-Ru-Teek)
@floofiekun1875
@floofiekun1875 Год назад
Definitely in the top percentage of Rattatas
@rjagad
@rjagad Год назад
Rattata: *turns to the Gameboy* "Let Me ask you, does a machine like yourself ever Experience F.E.A.R"
@googaboogaloo
@googaboogaloo Год назад
I’ll let the ecruteak pronunciation slide for not saying ratuh-tatuh
@MrBrizzled
@MrBrizzled Год назад
no way this man pronounced ecruteak EH CREW DEE AK
@Jayson_Tatum
@Jayson_Tatum Год назад
I immediately pictured "FEAR" Rat. I was right
@b.clarenc9517
@b.clarenc9517 Год назад
As you mentioned, you compared Rattata any% TAS with Totodile any% RTA. But what is the Totodile any% TAS time? Is there a TAS leaderboard available somewhere?
@zuils
@zuils Год назад
2:52:35
@jordanthejq12
@jordanthejq12 Год назад
Wait... this actually beats out manipping Raikou? You gotta be kidding me.
@PulseEffects
@PulseEffects Год назад
Crazy right? Haha
@CasualPokePlayer
@CasualPokePlayer Год назад
It makes sense in the context of Gold/Silver. In those games, releasing the legendary beasts is optional, rather than a mandatory sidequest like in Crystal. It also requires fighting an optional trainer, and acquiring Rock Smash. These things make even solo Totodile line faster than Raikou. Keep in mind too the Crystal TAS acquires Raikou (given releasing the beasts is mandatory), and even is several minutes faster than the Gold TAS (but that's probably more due to Gold/Silver having several more mandatory trainers than Crystal)
@TheJakeL152
@TheJakeL152 Год назад
That cannot be how you seriously pronounce ecruteak? All the towns are named after plants, it's named after teak trees.
@roasteddos6810
@roasteddos6810 5 месяцев назад
A tas for a visual novel game is something I never expected to see 💀
@Yostuba
@Yostuba Год назад
>Gameboy camera TAS Truly a god mere mortals can't understand or comprehend his reasoning&logic
@Neo_Bones
@Neo_Bones Год назад
Uh-uhhh- “Ecru-tee-ahk”?
@houraisheperd9721
@houraisheperd9721 Год назад
I love your music choices. Gravity Rush is always great, and Trauma Center is solid.
@ResurrectedElvenMonk
@ResurrectedElvenMonk Год назад
"You all mocked and laughed at me. But I told you Rattata was top percentage. I TOLD YOU!" - Youngster Joey, probably -
@KaizokuOniWa
@KaizokuOniWa Год назад
Love these vids pulse. Keep up the good work!
@IdentifiantE.S
@IdentifiantE.S Год назад
Its really interesting !
@Awesomegamer556
@Awesomegamer556 Год назад
I F.E.A.R this video when i watch it
@mistergameplayer4000
@mistergameplayer4000 Год назад
"I can feel it coming MD Hair tonight" is the only thing that went through my head during the sponsor...
@phi_greek
@phi_greek Год назад
Rats? I was rats once, they put me in a rubber, a room rubber, a room rubber with crazy, the crazy made me rats… Rats? I was rats once, they put me in a rubber, a room rubber, a room rubber with crazy, the crazy made me rats… Rats? I was rats once, they put me in a rubber, a room rubber, a room rubber with crazy, the crazy made me rats…
@theschnozzler
@theschnozzler Год назад
Thats crazy
@Akumo69
@Akumo69 Год назад
​@@theschnozzlerno it's rats
@mr.dudley3484
@mr.dudley3484 Год назад
rats rats we are the rats
@guushamers628
@guushamers628 Год назад
These pokemon videos are something i really look forward to, keep up the good work
@066kshitizvsingh4
@066kshitizvsingh4 Год назад
As a certain Nuzlocker calls it "RAT POWER"(yeah i know its used for Raticate as well)
@leemurrison9869
@leemurrison9869 Год назад
Have you ever heard of PokeMMO? I would love to see a speedrunner try to speedrun PokeMMO storylines.
@sagacious03
@sagacious03 Год назад
Neat analysis video! Thanks for uploading!
@TEC-XX_619
@TEC-XX_619 Год назад
Every town is named after a tree and a color. Ecru is an eggshell white and teak is a tree. Ecru Teak. Ek-Roo-Teek. Not Ecrewdiack.
@StrawberryStickRB
@StrawberryStickRB Год назад
Here I thought rattata is only useful for the FEAR strategy
@LordQuintix
@LordQuintix Год назад
Rattata: That's two for flinching!!
@WilliamAfton-n7d
@WilliamAfton-n7d Месяц назад
Not here to dog pile. But the way you pronounced ecruteak made me physically recoil. love your vids
@igorlopes8463
@igorlopes8463 Год назад
I guess that's why Team Rocket use a lot of those rats
@chaincat33
@chaincat33 Год назад
Hearing "Ecruteak" pronounced "Ecrudyack" made my hair fall out. It's "ecru-teak" like the teak tree.
@Smash_cash11
@Smash_cash11 Год назад
I mean he does have a sponsor for hair treatment....
@andyhuynh2625
@andyhuynh2625 Год назад
AYOOOO 4:45 THE BAKERY
@BubbaJoeSwag
@BubbaJoeSwag Год назад
Incredible thumbnail. Top tier.
@thericeknight
@thericeknight Год назад
Youngster Joey speedrun with his top percentage Ratatta!
@keneor4468
@keneor4468 Год назад
NORMAL STAB SUPREMACY NORMAL STAB SUPREMACY I LOVE NORMAL STAB (featuring HP ground I guess)
@herold.mp4
@herold.mp4 Год назад
chunky cheese
@TheCulturedMan34
@TheCulturedMan34 Год назад
That thumbnail is dope
@ArclinusCastoral
@ArclinusCastoral Год назад
The Abra strat actually made me physically pog.
@vergilbaberuthofbaseball5983
Crazy? I was crazy once, they locked me in a room, a rubber room, a rubber room full of rats, and rats made me crazy
@ricebox3048
@ricebox3048 Год назад
top tier rat
@zandatsu07
@zandatsu07 Год назад
I love how people triggered about the Ecruteak pronunciation 🤣
@gaminggoddess85
@gaminggoddess85 Год назад
...Is that how you're supposed to pronounce Ecruteak? I thought the "teak" was like "teek" like the teak tree.
@antoniomatias307
@antoniomatias307 Год назад
No, his pronunciation is wrong
@HoChiPro
@HoChiPro Год назад
RAT SWEEP 🧹 🐀
@SJrad
@SJrad Год назад
Joey approved
@matthewgagnon9426
@matthewgagnon9426 Год назад
Never underestimate RAT POWER.
@xS3T0x
@xS3T0x Год назад
I love the thumbnail, that's Rattata if it was in JoJo's, too much swag, I'm bout to run radical red with a Rattata glued to my squad, what should I name it?
@PulseEffects
@PulseEffects Год назад
Name it Joey for sure.
@thomashauge4798
@thomashauge4798 Год назад
EK-RU-DEAK??!!!!
@drscruffylupagus
@drscruffylupagus Год назад
Ooh, my homie Rattata.
@kingzerko
@kingzerko Год назад
Top percent video.
@tysondennis1016
@tysondennis1016 Год назад
FEAR Rattata
@ElTestok
@ElTestok Год назад
I still didn't get how Rattata caught up to the Feraligator run.
@JUMPYCOOL
@JUMPYCOOL Год назад
I love Gen 2!
@IdentifiantE.S
@IdentifiantE.S Год назад
We love gen 2
@alexpotts6520
@alexpotts6520 Год назад
Am I right in thinking there was a really old TAS (might be like ten years old at this point) that used Geodude, and abused Magnitude, Rollout and Quick Claw to plough through everything? How does Rattata compare to Geodude. Genuinely surprised that anything can compete with a mon that, from a very early level, has what under TAS conditions effectively becomes a 300 base-power STAB move (which even has a lovely 30 PP).
@PulseEffects
@PulseEffects Год назад
Yes there was! I was looking for that one before finding this one and its actually slower.
@Kate_Hanami
@Kate_Hanami Год назад
I only clicked the video, because of the thumbnail, who's the artist?
@PulseEffects
@PulseEffects Год назад
Credit for everything in the description!
@TheTuttle99
@TheTuttle99 7 месяцев назад
That fucking thumbnail
@QuokkaWaka
@QuokkaWaka Год назад
Man I clicked on this to watch a 13 minute video about Rattata only to have the first 5 minutes be about everything but Rattata 😭
@PulseEffects
@PulseEffects Год назад
It's about the journey, not the destination. And that journey needs context from other factors besides Rattata before reaching the destination. I would have gone straight to Rattata if context wasn't important!
@frankwhite2072
@frankwhite2072 Год назад
How did you pronounce Ecruteak?
@Keydicken
@Keydicken Год назад
RAT POWER
@bomberwarren
@bomberwarren Год назад
My favorite pokemon of all time.
@faizm937
@faizm937 7 месяцев назад
At the same annoying, when npc uses against us💀
@jasper265
@jasper265 10 месяцев назад
Incorrect. A bad TAS is still a TAS, while not being theoretically perfect by any stretch of the imagination.
@Air_Dan
@Air_Dan Год назад
Okay but I feel like you never addressed why non tas runs wouldn’t try this route. Like couldn’t a human run still beat WR taking as many tas elements it can. Obviously wouldn’t come close to the tas WR but it must be worth looking into.
@PulseEffects
@PulseEffects Год назад
Sooo this is something I definitely wanted to add to the video, but a Rattata RNG Manipulation for Pokemon Gold/Silver currently does not exist, and very few people in the community can actually make a Manipulation for one in the first place. So comparing a human Rat vs a human Gatr run was unfortunately not an option since I have nothing to go off of for a Human Rattata run. :/
@TheRenegade191
@TheRenegade191 Год назад
Totodile runs require you to get a decent Totodile in the beginning Rattata relies too much on hyper fang flinches to not die against things it can't ohko with a critical hit. Raticate has defenses comparable to Totodile mind you. Edit: unless you do extra leveling, you have to fight whitney's miltank with a Level 18 rattata, and it outspeeds you, so that's not happening lol
@alexpotts6520
@alexpotts6520 Год назад
The heat death of the universe would occur before a human runner got lucky enough to complete a run using the TAS route. Some things done in TASes are just flawless versions of what humans do in RTAs; but some tricks or route choices are things humans would never even attempt because they require unreasonable levels of precision or luck.
@victorystar8586
@victorystar8586 Год назад
So, the reason why Rattata is better is because Totadile talks too much?
@kable6693
@kable6693 Год назад
7:56, how the FUCK did you pronounce Ecruteak? It's ECRU-TEAK NOT ACRU-TIAK I just shook so hard in my boots
@HonkHonkGoose776
@HonkHonkGoose776 Год назад
joey would be proud
@joelmorris9694
@joelmorris9694 Год назад
Super interesting video and great production. My only nitpick is your delivery. The majority up your sentences have your voice inflecting upwards, and then sharply downwards. If you iron that out into something more even/naturalistic, A+ work.
@Skelig
@Skelig Год назад
🐀
@yuumijungle548
@yuumijungle548 Год назад
wait i used to to this like a year ago, this is meta now? xD
@SupahMari0
@SupahMari0 Год назад
E
@huh155
@huh155 Год назад
early
@DautFromX
@DautFromX Год назад
Why do people use third party software to speed run, that's cheating and where's the fun in that?
@FireBlindStudios
@FireBlindStudios Год назад
TAS runs are supposed to be showcases of the theoretical limit for a game, they do not compete with human-completed runs and attract a different crowd of people as a whole. They're more about showcasing your knowledge of the inner workings of the game and manipulating everything you can to work in your favor. It's fun seeing these strats be TAS viable when in regular runs, they'd be anything but optimal. TAS runs can also be done purely for fun - I highly recommend checking out a few of the runs from the TAS block hosted at GDQ (brain age is my personal favorite out of all of these)!
@FernieAriel
@FernieAriel Год назад
“Eh-Crooty-Ack”???
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