I don't know where I read this, but I think it's beautiful and thought-provoking: "Everybody wants the power of resurrection, but few are willing and able to endure the pain of dying"
Interesting way of phrasing. Isn't it amazing how Jesus endured the pain of suffering on the cross plus enduring the pain of all the sins we commit, and had the power of resurrection! So its through his pain and death that we have that very power of resurrection if we follow Him. Really our lives should be devoted to accepting this universal truth and devoting our lives to following Gods will for us. If your statement doesn't make this crystal clear I don't know what will. For all the ego loving philosophical nutjobs!
@@amalronaldo Maybe its a sign you should stop relying so much on a bunch of soulless philosophy and your own ego. I used to rely on it. It's all empty, devoid of purpose. Just listen to your heart man. You know philosophy is empty, you know God made you special. You're unique. You have a purpose. You have God's moral code written in your heart, not in some book written by an eccentric philosophic loner in the 1800s. Accept God's calling and ask him to help you. He will answer, i'm sure. Just maybe not when you're expecting it.
It’s easy for many to feel strong because all their “strength” is gained in controlled environments, but when the shit really hits the fan many would crumble. The down goers wouldn’t. Very insightful. Keep up the good work.
I understood this at around age 19-20 when I first encountered Fight Club. It put words to thoughts and feelings I already had. The way I see it, Tyler Durden is a personal character. As in, we all have our Tyler Durden, the person that’s left once you strip away the money, the job, the car, the big house, all of that. Who are you without those things? And once you know who your Tyler Durden is, there’s a peace that comes with letting go of the rest of it.
"It's only after we've lost everything, that we're free to do anything." I think part of the quote is also the Nietzschean idea of shedding our burdens as the Camel, and confronting the Dragon Thou Shalt as the Lion. We carry all these burdens, kind of like what you mention with our fears and anxieties towards change, and are too afraid to give them up, the Narrator in Fight Club's Ikea nest, all his possessions, and transform our lives into a more authentic and life affirming way of living. Also, makes me think of Jung's theory of Individuation, the idea that we must almost "kill" our old selves for our new self. We must accept the shadow to experience complete transformation. "A coward dies a thousand times before his death, the brave man dies once." I love the Bukowski mention. His poem "Roll the Dice" is probably my favorite. "Go all the way... it might mean losing girlfriends, wives, relatives, your job, and maybe... even your mind... you will be alone, with the gods, and the nights will flame with fire" A few of my favorite lines. Bukowski was very Nietzschean. Only after losing everything can be build ourselves up. Anyway, love the videos, great real life applications of Nietzsche's philosophies, especially since he never gives the answer outright, and makes you find it, which is why he's so great. 'Can a man still be brave if he's afraid? ' 'That is the only time a man can be brave,' great work as usual brother! The spirit of Dionysus lives...
Yeah, all that losing everything nonsense is the last moment before you splatter yourself over the local landscape, not the key to your freedom. When you've got nothing it's hard to do anything except whither and fade. The world will assault you with platitudes, like nobody ever regrets not working enough on their deathbed but you say fk it and get on with enjoying life everyone despises your lazy, selfish arse. You gotta grow a pair if you want to get on a do what you want to do. People will hate you whatever happens, they look down on your failures and envy your successes so fk 'em & just do it. Of course, throwing yourself into the void is no guarantee of success. As Samual Clements said, the harder I work the luckier I get. Just work at something that has meaning for you even if it is to conquer the world to become an evil dictator.
I understand exactly what this quote means after I got into a car accident last year. That car was like a girlfriend for me and my pride and joy, yet since the crash my charisma strangely just multiplied exponentially. I used to be just a mute but now everyone is vibing with me. Still hoping to find another car that will live up to my first one's reputation though lol
@@SonnyModi-gm7bk all philosophy is technically mental masterbation, but your outlook on life directly affect your decisions and outcomes so it is essential to have such a mentality even if it's delusional, Nietzsche also says it numerous times: “Let thy virtue be too high for the familiarity of names, and if thou must speak of it, be not ashamed to stammer about it.”
@@enrater123 That is the reason I reject every religion, philosophy, morality and anything similar !! And am contemplating taking my own life in case of prolonged suffering .
“I approach deep problems like cold baths,” he confided: “quickly into them and quickly out again. That one does not get to the depths that way, not deep enough down, is the superstition of those afraid of the water, the enemies of cold water; they speak without experience” -frederich nietzsche
Tyler Durden was saying that self-improvement is narcissistic delusion because we are all decaying and dying (along with the whole world). You can’t really improve. It gets nowhere- it all leads to oblivion. On the other hand, self-destruction (both literally and in regards to the ego) is something that can be objectively achieved in this life
This is one of the rare moments where It feels like I was meant to watch this video exactly this day at this moment in my life. I don't know how to describe it better. If there is a higher force in the universe, it manifested itself in the form of the RU-vid algorithm today 😄
There’s this saying that adds into what this man was saying “improving your life isn’t one thing or multiple things it is a campaign, to break yourself down and go up.”
Yes, true words... Experienced much downgoing..and must admit these were the best grow in my life... In long term after seen lots of hell, I agree I became the best of myself... Sure meditation & introspection is a must... To make it clear: Introspection : the examination or observation of one’s own Mental & Emotional processes. As is said: “Quiet introspection can be extremely valuable”
This was excellent and demands and provokes you into down going. The contrary has been my life for years. Denials. Vices. Projections. Stagnation. Degrading health. Now i wonder what happens when I let go of these old dependencies? Who am i without them? Idk, I think im afraid to find out. Thus, my path is before. Follow my fear and joy
This is what we get wrong. Self improvement wasn't really for our "happiness" but rather for our own comfort so that things are easier/smoother the next time we encounter them, it's the same with money which doesn't bring happiness but comfort according to Rabbi Manis Friedman. We train ourselves in lifting so that the next time you lift those gallons of water you won't be so exhausted next time, we read about our interests and work so that when chaos comes we'd know how to deal with them without being crushed--all in all, seems to me self-improvement will remind you that failure is inevitable, but what you can do is mitigate and delay the occurrence of failure (learned this concept from Dr K's advice on curse of ADHD lol).
I downwent by leaving a 5 year on and off terrible relationship and I got into a 4 year undergraduate degree in music that right now feels the biggest sacrifice I have to endure. While it is absolutely rewarding, it is also arduous and mentally frustrating. I have no time to give to in a proper relationship, therefore the sacrifice I have undertaken, yet to me this was one of the second most empowered moves I have ever done in my life.
You need both, A) improving on yourself, building, and B) a breaking down of what is wrong with you, breaking your vices, (and C) exploration, a broadening of your horizons, gaining wisdom to know what should be changed, what should be kept, and what should be regained.) Broaden your vision, then refocus your goals. Add material, then refine it. Build your tower, then remodel it. Rince, repeat.
Incredible video. There's another character from a tv series which embodies this nietzschean philosophy: Rust Cohle from true detective season 1. Highly recommend checking it out since it relates to nietzsche's thus spoke zarathustra and fight club. Also, really impressed with part 3 that you included about Dionysus. Most people don't cross past examining Thus Spoke Zarathustra but the Birth of Tragedy is incredibly insightful too
@nooblifter390 you can google it, will give you a better explanation but I'll say a few points that Rust opens in the show with embodying Schopenhauer's philosophy of pessimism and counteracts his beliefs by behaving in an ubermensch-ian way, how hes willing to sacrifice himself for solving the murders. The “time is a flat circle" quote is from Nietzsches' ideas of eternal recurrence. He also follows the moto of living dangerously and give your spirit dangerous liberty but guards the heart. The idea of solitude and other people being a prison is an idea of Nietzsche that he seems to be embodying. And of course, the stuff he says about organised religion. And his sense of strong duty despite his fatalism.
Your voice sounds like you are about to tell a joke but are trying not to laugh. Great video! The topic of downgoing is immensely powerful to procrastinators.
This video led to the realization that I was breaking my heart with lies instead of following it. The feeling of down-going is something I’m now addicted to.
I guess it's just confidence and self-esteem... when you do dangerous stuff you become confident in yourself and what you're able to do ... and this makes you way more happy as you just don't have the reason to fear anymore since you are able to do a lot of things and thus your mind is free and isn't occupied by negative shit, street and fears ... great vid bro and this is just my take on it
Been going down the nietzsche rabbit hole and really feel like I’ve been restricted by my fears. Survival was always difficult for me and so the idea if being bold is absurd to that piece of me thats been ensuring survival. How did you figure out how to “follow your heart” and where did you struggle the most to implement this?
It's like your sense of smell. If shit doesn't smell right where you are, go somewhere else. Now when you're in a shitty situation, of course it's going to smell like shit, this is common sense. But this video seems to be talking more to those who may be relatively comfortable. They have their basic needs met. Food in the fridge, roof over their head, a job, but something isn't right. They are avoiding that desire that wants something else because they want the comfort instead. It's the path of a coward.
@@tubsy. I was thinking just like you back then. But no. Your mind manupilates you and lies to you constantly. "If i get that job i'll be happy" "If i get rich i'll be happy" "If i get that nice car i'll be happy" etc etc. None of those will make you happy. The richest countries in the world have the highest suicide rates. Happiness and meaning are illogical things in nature,logic cant lead you to those,only your heart can.
I have just watched "Snow Society" on NetFlix and the metaphor of the "tower across the sea" remembered me the strugle the 2 guys had to reach society.
I wanted to pinpoint that as a greek we have this quote from plato "of all the good traits n occupations in life we should moderation upon them" loterally the gym part struck a nerve causeany people dont understand the concept of moderation n rest n the aftermath of intense excersice regimes that i undergone n after years caused physical problems to my life that creates a so called illusion at the beggining n it can become addictive to the point of hybris!! Very interesting setting of ideas in this video n as always i stand strong by sayong greek philosophers were n still are the cornerstone of ones self realization!
A lot of people become a ‘down-goer’ when they go to therapy (specifically psychotherapy) because they’re finally facing the problems in themselves and their lives.
Use your everyday to challenge yourself in your thinking. To want to change can often involve deep introspection before you try to “ self - improve “ allow yourself to be seen and then start refining who you would like to define yourself as.
Coming across this video helped me have an actual breakthrough on why I have the current obstacles in my life. Never would I have thought to view my coping mechanisms as fears instead of bad habits that can be kicked. It makes a lot of sense and puts a whole new perspective and level of seriousness to it. Thank you.
Interesting video, but your analogies seem to confuse the issue. Similar to the Tyler Durden quote you used up front, I have no idea what the difference is between mastrubatory self-improvement and a down-going. I'm 50lbs overweight. Is admitting this is affecting my life and committing to the gym mastrubatory self-improvement or a down-going? I don't have the best relationship with my partner. Is leaving her my down-going or is it an escape from my problems so I don't have to face them? It's the problem with making philosophy videos like this that extend beyond concepts. The concept of a down-going is easy to understand, but the reality is MOST people struggle understanding where to start the reflection, because things aren't really that cut and dry, and, frankly, the heart DOES lie and it takes work to peel back to find the truth.
I notice a Rudyard Lynch/whatifalthist presentation and speech style. I mean what I typed as a compliment. You’re right about facing your fears when being a down-goer. I did that when I left a comfortable life in San Diego in 1994 and moved to Osaka Japan to teach English. While life wasn’t always a bowl of cherries during those 5 years I lived there, I can’t imagine my current self without that experience. Since we all have a limited amount of time on this hunk of a rock, we might as well live life with gusto in the way that Ernest Hemingway did.
my self-improvement journey of three consistent years with meditation, writing, schooling, and failed relationships no longer bring me improvement. I must let go of what I once considered to be helping me. I must venture into the depths for something more.
It's great to see people have a desire to learn especially for things that question what we've always been told for example how it was Russia who saved The Union during the American Civil War as they sent their Navy to San Francisco and New York when England and France were just about to enter the war on the side of the Confederates since London created the Confederates. France was already in Mexico making a spear head movement to resupply the Confederates and to open up a Pacific Theatre and to create a port in California. England already amassed 11,000 troops and growing stationed at their Northern Confederacies border now called Canada ready to open a Northern Theatre to divert Union troops away from their Southern Confederacy then to attack The Unions naval blockade. The Union would have been completely destroyed and annexed by those two great powers leaving the Confederates to exist as either a puppet state of London or to be fully brought back into the fold of the British Empire. London was already courting (threatening/bribing) other countries to get involved like Spain while Russia was in talks with Prussia to ally with incase London was to intervene. Seeing all of this Tsar Alexander II wrote a letter to Queen Victoria saying “If you enter in this war it will be a casus belli for all out war with the Russian Empire”. The stage was set for the 1st World War and Russia stopped it. There is also a memorial in San Francisco for the hundreds of Russian sailors who came off their Asiatic fleet ships that died while helping the city put out a fire that threatened to lay waste to it during the War.
Self improvement= be the best like like thr other see it. Self destruction= became truly strong by becoming the purest version of you, a literal beast, free, the best version of yourself. For me it the balance beetween living in the chao and the order. A chaotic free life where you obtain what you truly need.
nice video, Also another thing about Fight Club that I like its that it's also 'mock' these improvement guru in the form of Project Mayhem and Tyler. Tyler to me represent the 'sigma male' that people think of, he is muscular, he is handsome and is great in bed, he is free from societal judgement, so these men followed Tyler and his ideals, Tyler is like Andrew Tate to me with both of them giving out ways to improve your life or 'escape the matrix' For Tyler it was his club and PM, for Tate, its his course But then in the second half, we see as men who joined Project Mayhem as a cult. They all dresses the same, they have the same haircut, they don't even question their leader Tyler and blindly followed him. Do Tate follower ever question the effectiveness of his course? Or if Tate the right person to follow? No they are entrance by Tate charisma and his body and wealth, just like Tyler follower. Additionally, Tyler follower are kinda like businessman, the blue collar worker (Just like the Narrator) they wore their all black clothes (work uniform), they all look the same, they followed their boss (Tyler) and never ask question. Goes to show how even if you 'self improve' you still in the same state you are before (You can clearly see here that I really like Fight Club)
I followed my heart and should have followed my intuition. I knew these experiences would turn out badly but I allowed myself to be talked into them by my heart.
@@DeutscherPatrick I’m infatuated with this particular woman but she’s clearly not interested in me. My heart kept telling me that it’s magic between the two of us and she would eventually come around. We would hang out and sleep together, but then out of nowhere she told me she was in love with this other person and moved out of state with him. Shortly after, he cheated on her and they broke up. She and I hooked up again and it was magic as usual, but she’s just not interested. I come to find out she had been seeing that guy while sleeping with me for at least two years before even telling me she was with him. And still, even now, my heart still is telling me she’s the real deal, so I have to actively think my way out of it and constantly remind myself that this is how she operates. Even if we ended up together she’d probably end up cheating on me eventually. But my heart won’t shut up about it.
@@DeutscherPatrick another example is a business partnership I got into with a friend of mine. It was a good deal on paper and the possibility to get very wealthy was very real. My intuition was telling me quietly that I didn’t need his help, but my heart wanted to work with my friend. Ultimately he screwed me holding our assets in a separate account and held me hostage until I bought him out for $30,000. Ultimately the whole endeavor cost me $80,000 which is a lot for me.
@@DeutscherPatrick yeah man it’s just life. I commented just as a cautionary tale for everyone saying that this was the best video ever and stuff. I’m not saying it’s bad, I’m just saying your heart can take you to some tricky situations as you call them. Maybe I lack some competencies that others possess, but this is all just one guy’s experience. That’s for the chat sir!
The heart is a fickle lustful shallow. It's only when wisdom can wield the heart to understand that you're wicked to the core and low. By looking low you will be drawn low. Look to the self sacrificing savior and you will be brought high.
It's more like the heart is surrounded by the these characteristics u have mentioned.u gotta overcome these impulses in order to tap into your potential.nd you do it by facing them.
@@tayyabhameed9559, the nature of man can be seen in the unbridled emotion of young children. The world perpetuates this into adulthood because it's the state of a man who isn't able to overcome this instinctual state. Unfortunately, a man countering nature is the inverse of the easy. The heart is the denominator in the equation of self mastery. The mental and emotional maturity is the numerator. Until you're heart is subdued by the mind you'll never be whole.
"I did a cold plunge today" great, but did you dive deep into the dark sea of your consciousness? Have you risen anew? Do you have a newfound joy for life?
This is the video I have been *DYING* for somebody to make. Criticizing the self-improvement RU-vid sphere of “ALPHAMINDSET” channels. Going head-on about the rationalizing, instead of exploiting it. “I’m not afraid of talking to women. I’m a sigma male rejecting modern women.” Thank you so much for making this. You are very much the hero RU-vid needs, not the one it deserves.
I've come to the conclusion that at a certain point you just got to stop doing Self-improvement Almost a paradoxical trap people seem to get into with chronic state of Self-improvement with no point or true endpoint (other the just Self-improvement for its own sake) and in a way after doing it for years/decades you can get improvement by stopping Self-improvement
absolutely, legends like michel phelps, thiery henry, ronnie o sullivan struggled with depression, reason ur success is ur reason for ur suffering. so living average and never reaching a goal is the only philosophy to live happy
Great Video, But Isn't the down going thing is same as the self-improvement thing? Bcz in my opinion I think you put yourself into the pain of discipline and suffering to get the long-term rewards like it's mentioned in your video as overgoing after a down going.
I want to be a better person. Ive failed so many, hurt friends and lost loved ones. I dont want to hurt people again. The fear of hurting people shouldnt hold me back from the joys of experiencing life. That isnt growth. It's stagnation. I was under the influence that people would be better off without me to ruin things, but I failed to see just how much good I've done with the time I've spent with those people. Its regrettable that I couldnt hold onto them, but it is inevitable. Loss is simply a part of life. I can't continue to let the fear of loss dictate who I spend my time with. I must be willing to feel pain, if it means I can experience joy. These distractions I've kept myself around. I hate them. I dont want to rely on them. They fill me with a sense of dissatisfaction. I can do better than this.
Masturbation is a build up to variating degrees of instant gratification. Self improvement is similar if done for the wrong reasons like to fill an ego. Self improvement for the sake of delayed gratification like a healthy life down the road or to simply be in shape is much different than masturbation...
Courage is required to step into the gym, to step into a cold shower, to go to a dance class etc. This is all self improvement. Approaching women requires social skills which is part of self improvement. Self improvement and striving for self mastery would certainly gain Nietzsches approval
@CreazyPeazy Specifically in the aspect of how working out is putting your body through a controlled difficult effort to make it stronger. Muscle grow through microtears after rebuilding themselves, your cardiovascular system becomes stronger when consistently placed under duress.
@@CreazyPeazyyou have to leave your warm, safe home and go out into the world with the intent to subject yourself to strain and pain, that requires some courage believe it or not. it’s easy once it becomes a habit but for most people it does require courage
I don't get the cold shower thing. I don't inherently want to take a shower that is cold so psyching myself up to get into one isn't the same as the other stuff on the list. I want to learn skills and keep my body healthy and practice self expression, so the discomfort is worth attempting to overcome
You can't get it until you're open to being really honest with yourself. He's on point and waaaay ahead of his time. His message is not for the masses. Thats okay.
I agreed with most part. The ending however was clearly masturbation and even if it tried to give an example of down going I believe it is quite exactly the opposite. I see stability, comfort, achieved by down going yes, but infertile from that point onwards; point is, down going becomes a long path for construction of the self not a short path to be able to rejoice because you turned yourself into an ubermanshcaft (since it’s simply unattainable) so I believe there’s some down going that was stopped and just ended up being exactly what was criticized from the very beginning.
Looking at history 95% of humanity have been part of the low caste almost slave class of laborers or warrior class. Most people are really just meant to be workers without goals or change. Great minds and talent is rare because it comes with great responsibility and people despise discipline and responsibility.
Bro dropped out of college, left his beautiful girlfriend of 4 years, wrote a knock off jordan Peterson book, and became a pop philosophy youtuber - all just to misinterpret Nietzsche and cope about not going to the gym😂😂😂
I always thought that the meaning of self improvement is masturbation was because it pleases our eyes how we gained some abs, how we look good towards other people, because it is very pleasing. And self destruction meant, changing yourself literally, from all your bad habits. Letting go of your old self.
No. You need to stop idealising Tyler. Self masturbation as self improvement is self satisfaction. Tyler is the embodiment of chaos, a reaction, a rebellious movement. When he talks about self destruction he means it. It’s not about losing bad habits, it’s about becoming chaos in a society that represses it.
Dude great video. I like the concept of not looking up but down into fears. However, have you done cold plunges? That's one act of courage and it makes you face your fears instantly. It is a tool that primes you to keep doing hard stuff throughout the day.
I've seen quite a bit of your content lately and I like what you're doing. I bought your book via Amazon, and I'm looking forward to some great summer reading!
*Existential Depression = Down-going* Existential depression is a process of descending into a deeper understanding or awareness of one’s existence, which can be a challenging and sometimes painful journey. *Down-going isn't about BEING dangerous, but all about FACING what YOU identify as dangerous* This means facing one’s fears, insecurities, or the uncomfortable truths about oneself or the world. *Down-going = realising that you aren't a herdanimal like 99.99% of humanity* Most people tend to follow societal norms and expectations, often without ever questioning them. *Down-going is realising that you aren't a follower like most people, nor are you a leader* This simply means that you've recognized that both roles, that of leader & follower, are part of the same system of hierarchy and power dynamics and that you choose to step outside of that system.
Really cool video! 11:15 oh man this section hits the spot. I'm in this part of my life where I know I have to leave my relationship so that I can follow my heart, and I just don't have the courage to do it yet. I wanted to it with her but she keeps getting in the way and wants me to stop and turn everything in her favour. I know I would be miserable by taking her path. Congrats on getting your video recommended and good luck with your YT channel!
Best vid I have seen in long time, thanks for the 15:08 of wisdom, I got to me in a great time. What is funny is that Tyler looks like a Calvin Klein model
I agreed with some of this but Nietzsche and this video miss a big part of the conversation, in my opinion. That part is Responsibility. Not everyone, in fact very few, are blessed with the ability to simply follow the intuitions of their heart at any given moment. Using myself as an example, I have a wife and 2 kids. I am happy and find a lot of fulfillment in my life. But deep down I know that I hate what I do for work and really what I want to do is just spend time with my family and draw/paint/be an artist. But I definitely DONT want to be an artist for money. So do I down go and take the courageous path of quitting my job and following my heart? To be a stay at home dad with no job and just paint / draw as I see fit? Is it courageous to put your own hearts desires ahead of those who depend on you? To me that sounds like narcissism and immaturity.
Don’t listen to this clown - Bro dropped out of college, left his beautiful girlfriend of 4 years, wrote a knock off jordan Peterson book, and became a pop philosophy youtuber; all just to misinterpret Nietzsche and cope about not going to the gym. - what you’re doing is truly righteous. To sacrifice your own desires and wishes for the betterment of your family (something greater than yourself and something beautiful) is the greatest thing a man can do. As a fellow artist, I understand your frustration - to an extent, I’m not a father and am still in college (which makes me admire your story more). Regardless, your story is much more inspiring to me than this dudes narcissism fueled pseudo-intellectualism. Carry on brother; keep making art, if you are a creative you must, in order to nurture your soul. But further, keep living selflessly. I really think being a good father is one of the most epic things a man can do. Carry on, man - god bless.
Well yeah, the missing puzzle piece is fact is you should be happy in doing more, being more & sometimes even having more. The goals, most of which you'll miss are only a means to the end that is right here right now, the way, the process, the Dao, the mode of being. Because all you have to enjoy in life is an ever-passing present and the key to happiness it's all about balancing the spoils of the present (to which I count memories of the past) and hopes for the future. Life is complex it feeds in on itself, wherever you look the snake will always come to bite its own tail. It's not over when you fix what's broken but is itself a phenomenon emerging from a permanent state of fixing & breaking.
Are you critical of ice baths? They aren't the answer, sure. But for me, passively watching self-improvement videos was useless until that bit of advice took hold. For the many asleep in comfort-seeking the decision to commit to cold showers was just the thing to snap me out of complacency. Once tried, then committed to for a period, i developed a renewed resilience which then begged, what next. Cold exposure isn't the end all, but an early step toward something bigger. Good stuff, brother
The question I have for you to help me and others understand better this material better is, how many famous people in history do you think lived what is being said here? I think by knowing them and studying their lives someone new to this like my self can better learn and understand. Could you for example call Micheal Jordon a model for what Nietzsche advocating for? How many other people would you say live up to Nietzsches principles?
Damn you did a good job on this I actually subscribed. Human beings only live under 3 psychological Mythos. 1. The fear of Eternal damnation 2. The joy of Eternal salvation 3. The fantasy of unlimited possibilities with the " everything in between motive or program".... Unfortunately everybody that makes RU-vid videos, a very factual oxymoron, you are stuck in number three the fantasy of unlimited possibilities. As free as you want to be you are still chasing, either by monetary or social.... ask yourself this one question... if video cameras did not exist, would you still spending your time doing this ?..... ( that question goes across the board, everything from the gym thought to the guy that has a baby alligator as a pet in the damn thing keeps biting his fingers but he's only doing it for the RU-vid monetization
