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Bradley Martyn and Demetrious Johnson have agreed to have a grappling match to settle the debate of how important size is in fighting. In the UFC today, many fighters like Islam Makhachev use size to their advantage. Here, we will discuss how size and strength compares to speed and agility in a real fight.
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@CaPnBaLlBaG
@CaPnBaLlBaG Год назад
I'm 6'5" and 230. My first ever day in jiujitsu I had dudes who were 150 soaking wet straight up ragdolling me. Size become an insurmountable obstacle when the guy with size at least kinda knows how to fight. Before that point, it means WAY less than people think.
@columodonnell9202
@columodonnell9202 Год назад
With all respect to Jiu Jitsu, rolling around on a padded floor with no strikes isnt exactly a good simulation of a real fight
@kqwerty11
@kqwerty11 Год назад
@@columodonnell9202my thought exactly, thanks for pointing that out.
@theperfectfighter9193
@theperfectfighter9193 Год назад
If you play jiujitsu with a jiujitsu guy guess what's gonna happen, in a real fight size matters more than in a jiujitsu match.
@Z_Rodriguez13
@Z_Rodriguez13 Год назад
@@columodonnell9202it still is the same though trained Vs not trained size hardly matters, perfect example is look up the Oklahoma students who got in a fight at the bar, two football players (for OU) who were indeed bigger got absolutely bodied because the other ones who train mma
@24sowl11
@24sowl11 Год назад
thank you for being so honest and speaking to wake these cucks drooling over big guys lol your size and strength will fuck up an average guy with no fighting skills for sure but than so does any other type of advantage even simple things like if you're same size as your opponent but you have more fast twitch u will fuck them up with speed and same for cardio. these ppl are somehow literally lusting over bradley it is so fucking crazy even joe rogan himself even tho he is black belt tf joe ? slamming really ? you learn to warp your arm around your opponet to prevent slamming so much before even brown belt. slamming happens in high lvl bjj cuz expert can trick another expert into somehow now locking and get em susceptible to slamming. but then again joe rogan also said ronda rousey can beat 135lb male champions lol and ppl that regurgitate repeat his words with without thinking.
@JDdelaCruz767
@JDdelaCruz767 Год назад
I'm a 165lb purple belt in jiujitsu. I experience first hand the difference between big and athletic. I have rolled with 220-230lb dudes that felt not that much stronger than me. I'm sure they could bench more but on the mats...didn't really feel it. Then there are these athletic big dudes that are a whole different story. I rolled with a guy that played for the Naval Academy football team. I couldn't sweep him, couldn't take him down. The ole trusty armbar from guard is what I could get to work. Didn't stop me from thinking about how much trouble I'd be in if he was throwing bombs down at me. After a month of training, I couldn't submit him anymore with anything except sneaky heelhooks. Big, strong, AND athletic matters. The disparity in our physical abilities meant he only needed 1 month of training to nullify my 5 years lmao. I'm scared what he'll be like 5 years
@CaPnBaLlBaG
@CaPnBaLlBaG Год назад
I mean you’re also not DJ and this dude was probably more athletic than Bradley, but I do get the sentiment. I understand this shit matters, but you’re talking about one of the greatest fighters of all time versus a dude who has probably never taken a real punch. I’ve lived the difference between getting tagged in a drunken scuffle and taking a clean rear hook from a skilled boxer. It’s not the same thing at all. I couldn’t chew right for over a week. Probably should’ve seen a doctor. And this was just sparring, not even a real fight. You can’t tell me an untrained bodybuilder is going to just walk through the offense of an all time great fighter.
@JDdelaCruz767
@JDdelaCruz767 Год назад
@@CaPnBaLlBaG absolutely. DJ is one of the greatest fighters of all time. My comment was just an anecdote of my experience rolling with large people. I don't think DJ will have a problem beating Bradley, but I think there's also a bunch of delusional white and blue belts out there that think they can just take a big dude in a fight because submitted big dudes in the training room.
@S3aCa1mRa1n
@S3aCa1mRa1n Год назад
HONESTY
@CaPnBaLlBaG
@CaPnBaLlBaG Год назад
@@JDdelaCruz767 absolutely, 100% couldn’t agree more.
@Brodie0298
@Brodie0298 Год назад
​@@JDdelaCruz767I've been saying size doesn't matter unless they are athletic with little training and they can be a real problem for some experienced little guys
@fixthisdog
@fixthisdog Год назад
Pegged the internet
@ThePostPunk
@ThePostPunk Год назад
Pegged the internet
@drethom087
@drethom087 Год назад
Fully erect bodybuilders
@nateums
@nateums Год назад
A lot of pegging
@TheReal_GigaChad
@TheReal_GigaChad Год назад
​@@nateums🥵
@lucajack007
@lucajack007 Год назад
That def caught me off guard
@nickleback3695
@nickleback3695 Год назад
There's a difference between a bodybuilder and a strongman, which smaller mma fighters are often compared to. I think a strongman would be much more dangerous than a bodybuilder.
@alexferrana3979
@alexferrana3979 Год назад
Agreed
@Jeff_Guapo
@Jeff_Guapo Год назад
Thing is, there is no weak bodybuilders unless they’re just beginning
@alexferrana3979
@alexferrana3979 Год назад
@@Jeff_Guapo it depends. Bodybuilders' muscles is different from strongmen's muscles. And a lot of bodybuilding is about of show and demonstration, not about a really functional muscles developed for lifting heavy things and especially fighting
@katokianimation
@katokianimation Год назад
@@Jeff_Guapo bodybuilders are stronger than avarge. But they are leaning to lower weights. Athletes who are lifting weights for a specific sport could be stonger than a body builders generally
@mtndewmslayer2564
@mtndewmslayer2564 Год назад
@@katokianimationsure, but higher reps also mean they have a higher stamina than, say, power lifters. Weather this is enough to outmatch strong men and their insane feats of both strength AND stamina, enough to even go up against professional fighters, I am more than a bit skeptical.
@GFitness_
@GFitness_ Год назад
Honestly bro been watching mma since I realised wwe was fake , been watching the RU-vidrs for years and you are such a breath of fresh air , actual understanding of the sport is soooo missing from the mma RU-vid scene , yourself Weasle and the guru are the only ones doing it for me 👏🏻👏🏻
@bigruckus8664
@bigruckus8664 Год назад
lol same when I was 11 it shocked me to find it was all scripted
@GFitness_
@GFitness_ Год назад
@@bigruckus8664 Hahaha it’s a tough realisation 😂 , thankfully we have mma
@hogan4670
@hogan4670 Год назад
i stopped watching movies when i found out that they were fake, I couldn’t believe that Spiderman wasn’t real smh
@nihiqallam5616
@nihiqallam5616 Год назад
​@@hogan4670lol
@hms9891
@hms9891 Год назад
Who remembers when Vince McMahon got blown up in a car and appeared a week later to pay tribute to Chris Benoit? 💀
@Robert-cd2ox
@Robert-cd2ox Год назад
This "it's hard to convince people that the one on the right will defeat the one on the left." comparisons are stupid because you are comparing a fighter to someone who can't fight. But if both can fight, it doesn't work at all and strength and weight are very important. There is no way that a Khabib or a McGregor, for example, can beat Overeem, even if they have much better skills.
@frags6940
@frags6940 Год назад
What’s funny is I can see 205 Volk beating Anthony Smith, 😂. But that’s the exception obviously, not the rule.
@Robert-cd2ox
@Robert-cd2ox Год назад
@@frags6940 He was really big during his rugby days, right? So if he get all his muscle back than maybe ;)
@Austin.Kilgore
@Austin.Kilgore Год назад
@@frags6940I think you’re being ridiculous tbh lol
@Ocelotonatiuh
@Ocelotonatiuh Год назад
​@@frags6940Lionheart would beat Volk like he stole something.
@paulievespucci6867
@paulievespucci6867 11 месяцев назад
​@@Robert-cd2oxbut isn't that the point? What the posts are saying is that 'even if the weightlifter is bigger and heavier, it won't matter much because the MMA fighter is trained to fight". Ofc when you make that statement, it's a given that a khabib and a McGregor won't beat an overeem because they are all trained to fight.
@robdubyuh420
@robdubyuh420 Год назад
the martial artist vs "body builder" videos online are such a waste of time. I can only assume they are taken seriously by people who have never set foot in a cage or stepped on a matt.
@soonahero
@soonahero 11 месяцев назад
It’s a gender thing. All the skill arguments of “skill matters” go out the window when it’s a woman fighter of the same size
@narutofan4545
@narutofan4545 11 месяцев назад
​​@@soonaherowomen literally have no muscle mass tho That's way different and you know it The weakest man is often stronger than the strongest woman. A man that's 5'3" can pick up a man that's six feet tall and slam him a woman can't
@soonahero
@soonahero 11 месяцев назад
@@narutofan4545 then control for muscle mass? Like just think a little harder and come up with a response.
@narutofan4545
@narutofan4545 11 месяцев назад
@@soonahero what are u talking about bro? The strongest woman on the planet can't generate enough force to knock out a man who's 5'2. A man who's 5'2" can knock out another man
@soonahero
@soonahero 11 месяцев назад
@@narutofan4545 let’s say a woman is stronger and has more muscle, better cardio than a certain 5’2 man. Why would he beat her, exactly?
@emanuel6233
@emanuel6233 10 месяцев назад
As a 6'7 230lbs lean guy, the lil guys in the MMA gym DID take me in the beginning when i had absolutely no experience, but that gap closed pretty quickly and i gotta admit that's literally just because i was so much bigger and stronger than them. With absolutely no technique, yeah i couldn't do much. But pretty basic technique allowed me to get past most things the short n skinny guys could throw at me. Talking mostly ground game now cuz when it came to striking we'd never do hard sparring between heavyweights n lightweights for obvious reasons Also wanna mention that the guys i went up against of course weren't UFC calibre fighters. Just that they were waaaaay better than me. Just absolutely outclassed me technique wise and if i was their size i would never stand a chance. But the size really let me just pass that gap
@ZemarRed
@ZemarRed Год назад
0:53 Nate is wiser than people give him credit for. This was really next level when he said it bc people were so convinced Conor was the second coming
@melancholymartialarts7095
@melancholymartialarts7095 Год назад
He was at that time
@brains8305
@brains8305 Год назад
Connor won his second belt after they fought making him the 3rd fighter in history to win a belt in 2 weight classes
@gavinma4831
@gavinma4831 Год назад
he didnt have a size advantage against eddie tho.
@ZemarRed
@ZemarRed Год назад
@@gavinma4831 you're right. Conor took that dude's soul lol but I think Nate was talking about 170 bc that's where they fought and Conor kept saying he wants to fight for the 170 belt
@camdonmaydew876
@camdonmaydew876 Год назад
As a 150 lb guy, a bigger guy with no fighting experience and who has never played sports is pretty easy work in every rule set (street included), but if they grab me i have to be careful and if i end up on my back i can’t make a single mistake. Train them for 6 months and it’s a different story. If they played sports it’s harder. If you train them for 3 months and we get in a street fight it’s a coin toss on whether I’m screwed or not, but i can probably stay out of the hospital. I know a guy who is a flyweight that can beat huge guys but the way he does it is calf kicks, head kicks, and heel hooks. Maybe an rnc if he exhausts them. Cardio is the best friend of small guys going against untrained big guys, but it takes a big guy so much less time training to be dangerous than it does a small guy.
@camdonmaydew876
@camdonmaydew876 Год назад
For clarity sake: never played sports and 180+ lbs 6 months training Played sports and is athletic 170+ lbs 3 months To beat someone they outweigh by 20 lbs or more Hell a 15 lb difference is rough once they get a year of experience,
@nkosinathinathi304
@nkosinathinathi304 Год назад
Spot on there my guy 👍
@holdenmuganda97
@holdenmuganda97 Год назад
⁠@@camdonmaydew876I think you’re right but your scale is off. I think it’s 1 year, 6 months respectively is they have the massive size and/or athleticism advantage. The funny thing that a lot of big and strong people don’t like sticking thru the tough part where they get beat on by smaller guys for 6-12 months until they get good. Honestly most people don’t last through that portion but if they do they become very dangerous.
@UseDucts
@UseDucts Год назад
Until someone grabs his feet
@roarblast7332
@roarblast7332 Год назад
​@MadaraFx06 this is the thing I'm most curious about. I'm just having a hard time imagining a big guy protecting his feet. I want to see it, because I don't believe they could.
@TheItalianGentleman2394
@TheItalianGentleman2394 Год назад
I know dudes who would fold the tren twins like a towel 🤣 also, no one ever talks about the guy who's 220 lb who's a black belt. We all like to talk about the small guy versus the big guy, but what about when? The big guy is a black belt and knows how to move and uses weight
@AlphaQHard
@AlphaQHard Год назад
Thats why there are weight classes. When people talk about the small guys ragdolling big guys its usually in a response to someone who thinks they can beat a trained guy just by size alone. If its a big guy vs small guy and they both have black belts 9/10 times the big guy wins
@TheItalianGentleman2394
@TheItalianGentleman2394 Год назад
@@AlphaQHard absolutely
@Bucephalus84
@Bucephalus84 Год назад
​@@AlphaQHard careful. You might be labeled a casual for that opinion. The hyenas don't want to recognize that.
@bennogb5069
@bennogb5069 Год назад
@@AlphaQHard yea its ussually small guys coping
@user-73a
@user-73a 11 месяцев назад
@AlphaQHard fat guys seethe after getting humbled
@austinb2177
@austinb2177 10 месяцев назад
I think the answer to this argument is very simple, but fighters either don’t understand it or don’t want to acknowledge it. Skill beats size until size learns skill or size is just too much.
@vichuvishwa8141
@vichuvishwa8141 Год назад
I agree with everything u said except Izzy being a small MW. Adesanya is not a small MW whatsover. He's a medium to slightly big sized MW. In MW, only Gastelum and Whittaker are the small ones. Everyone else is good to big for MW.
@gilbertoflores7397
@gilbertoflores7397 Год назад
Izzy is the size of a light heavyweight. He is just slim enough get down to MW. When he finally faces guys his size he can lose, Jan and Alex were his size. Izzy has usually towered over all his opponents and he fights long and will win on points as a first resort.
@putzerfischtube9658
@putzerfischtube9658 Год назад
@@gilbertoflores7397Yeah i think thats kind of a problem in the middle weight divison, many guys fighting there are as tall (reach wise too) as light hws or even full heavyweights. Welterweight fighters are getting taller and taller too
@TheNEOverse
@TheNEOverse 11 месяцев назад
Izzy is smaller though. Being tall is not the same as actually being large. Izzy doesn't cut much weight to make middleweight, ergo he is small. His length, speed, skill and actual fight IQ is what allows him to turn his height into an advantage.
@Boogieman618
@Boogieman618 11 месяцев назад
@@TheNEOversefax but that was inevitably the reason why Strickland beat him. Strickland was clearly the bigger and stronger fighter and he exploited that to his advantage.
@TheNEOverse
@TheNEOverse 11 месяцев назад
@@Boogieman618 Nah, Strickland is a bloated welterweight that managed to fit snuggly into the middleweight picture. He's not as bad as Kelvin Gastelum, but he's not large by any means. Nothing about Sean's performance revolved around strength or size. It was his weird style and strategy being a complete spoiler to Izzy. Weird marching footwork? Turns out its great for sustained pressure and leg kick checking. His punch defence then nullified Izzy's straight shots. And then his constant hitting allowed him to outdo Izzy at his own game.
@Jean-be7uk
@Jean-be7uk Год назад
I've practiced combat sports and martial arts (taekwondo-Bjj-sambo-muay thai) since 20 years, I am now 32yo and currently 154 lb . That said I have spent 15 of those 20 years between 116lb and 132lb. I remember rolling in sambo (at 116lb) with guys a lot taller and heavier , I could handle them when they lacked technique but when it came to guys above 165lb with knowledge and athletics, I couldn't finish them most of the time, sometimes I got wrecked. That said you can have "happy" accidents. Rear naked choke worked better on big guys and I knocked out a 198lb with a kick while I was 116lb (my achilles heel was hurting from hitting his thick skull so hard). Two years ago in muay thaï, I played with a 264 lb athletic guy, but he didn't really knew how to box. So my conclusion would be that size matters most when it's coupled with technique. I'd say that in a street fight if you're a lightweight , the worst thing is to be in a closed environment with someone who knows wrestling. Gotta be very sneaky if that happens.
@josuemaltez137
@josuemaltez137 10 месяцев назад
To put it simple in one paragraph. Size and strength don’t matter up until the point where skill and experience come into play. Small skillful experienced fighter can beat a bigger opponent when the big guy doesn’t know how to fight and lacks experience. Small experienced fighter has very slim chances at beating a bigger opponent with the same experience and skill he does. Size and weight are super important factors when the bigger guys has experience and practice. Even if he’s not insanely good, and his skills are just amateur or rookie at best it’s still enough to make him a huge threat to a smaller and lighter fighter, and even more so if the bigger guy is not just big and strong but extremely athletic.
@taylor8337
@taylor8337 Год назад
When I signed up for a charity MMA event, the room was split in half in terms of weight. I can say with confidence that the lighter side of the room was much easier to deal with for the most part. Some of the bigger guys were easy to catch off guard but that was based off a lack of knowledge as well as the rules being against them. In reality they could slam or strike. Rolling with a bodybuilder was a really interesting experience though. This guy was huge, he's about 6'4, 250lb against my 5'9, 170lb so quite the difference. I basically survived until a lucky opportunity allowed me to get top position, then I kept control until he eventually tapped from exhaustion. It was basically a battle of cardio and he had next to zero and didn't know any submissions! If a guy that size has cardio and skills, with no rules.... you're pretty fucked! Having said that, I can see DJ being able to at least survive against that dude long enough to gas him out 🤞
@-Ice_Cold-
@-Ice_Cold- Год назад
6'4 huge? There's a guy naming Olivier Richters who is bodybuilder standing at 7'1-7'2 and weighing over 300lbs
@redmarine2717
@redmarine2717 Год назад
Yeah you are not DJ, and the bodybuilder you rolled with isn't probably different to bradly in terms of skill
@redmarine2717
@redmarine2717 Год назад
@@bennogb5069 damn he is a freak? anyways mighty mouse by strangling
@bennogb5069
@bennogb5069 Год назад
@@redmarine2717 yea, watch the video. He shows clips of Bradley doing some impressive things eventough he only trains for hyperthrophy.
@redmarine2717
@redmarine2717 Год назад
@@bennogb5069 alr? listen it takes more than a decade to train enough for someone in the caliber of Mighty Mouse
@proudconservative23
@proudconservative23 Год назад
Lets put it this way.....gsp or khabib who are lighter than bodybuilders....can destroy any bodybuilder on this planet
@jjwh
@jjwh Год назад
Kinda loses some credibility when you said Conor beat the Mountain. The Mountain would have totally destroyed Conor if they both went all out there.
@lolcow6668
@lolcow6668 Год назад
Nope you’re just coping
@BebeSensei
@BebeSensei Год назад
True but to be fair its a Cartoonishly exaggerated difference LMAO
@WolfedOut
@WolfedOut Год назад
@@BebeSensei Like DJ and Bradley?
@BebeSensei
@BebeSensei Год назад
@@WolfedOut not so much, Bradley isnt 400 pounds and breaking deadlift records LMAO
@rtio8677
@rtio8677 Год назад
@@lolcow6668 Mountain would`ve destroyed Conor. And almost every example he gives in this video is wrong. Wanna get good at fighting? Eat a lot and gain weight beside training. Because in fight, weight usually means more than technique.
@hitman47784
@hitman47784 Год назад
Yeah it all matters size, strength, height, width, length of one’s limbs all that. In my experience grappling with inexperienced guys my size it’s easy cause they lack the wisdom of technique & just simply grip tightly plus get all stiff with their muscle. In their minds that’s strength. With bigger guys it’s little of the same but the biggest factor with them is cardio. They waist a lot of energy by just doing none meaningful things like squeezing tightly. Point is a bigger person that knows a little is dangerous
@CityLover117
@CityLover117 Год назад
I’m not worried for DJ. Bro truth be told, most people do not understand positioning or how gravity effects their weight, bad balance, don’t know how to fall. No shot this guy has any idea how to defend a blast double.
@keithcheng4671
@keithcheng4671 Год назад
DJ isn't weak either
@sonofromel
@sonofromel Год назад
There is a difference between big dudes and big strong athletic dudes who can fight. The latter will fold most smaller guys. This is the irony in boxing and MMA, they generaly don't lift weights because they don't wanna be "muscle bound" but their regimens produces muscular dudes and they want their heavyweights big.
@Boogieman618
@Boogieman618 8 месяцев назад
“They don’t lift weights” here we go with this shit lmao you’re either insecure or you genuinely believe that shit. They DO lift weights because that’s the only way to get explosively strong.
@Robert96902
@Robert96902 Год назад
A 165 division would be dope, and 175 for welterweight
@mba321
@mba321 Год назад
Truth
@Sshuyy
@Sshuyy Год назад
I think there’s a difference between strength and athleticism, I’m a very athletic guy when I started mma it gave me a head start on most guys but if your just lifting weights and don’t have any athletic technique whatsoever then the size doesn’t really matter at times
@williambrinkmeier1772
@williambrinkmeier1772 Год назад
I think its more you know how to move in general like just watching some people throw punches its kinda awkward how terrible there movement is its like they have never seen a proper punch before.
@LoseControlForDeath
@LoseControlForDeath Год назад
@@williambrinkmeier1772 having strong muscles is one thing, learning to coordinate the said muscles, having that feeling of generating explosive force with ease, having stability, mobility, and control is maybe even more important
@Boogieman618
@Boogieman618 11 месяцев назад
⁠@@LoseControlForDeathwhich isn’t hard to train. I promise you that the most naturally unathletic guy could be competent in these athletic abilities. I was one of those naturally unathletic guys who fell back on lifting weights. After getting muscular and strong I started actually training athleticism and mobility. I went from a 17 inch vertical to a 31 inch vertical in a couple months while still lifting for hypertrophy. I feel more mobile, stable, and athletic than ever while getting gains. The myth that bigger guys can’t be mobile or athletic is a myth.
@draco_1876
@draco_1876 10 месяцев назад
Strength is a form of athleticism
@nestorjed
@nestorjed Год назад
Honestly I think Bradley wouldn’t do shit against a roided DJ in a street fight with a ground of concrete
@bigruckus8664
@bigruckus8664 Год назад
20% chance bradley manages to pick him up then dj is dead
@sigmachadtrillioniare6372
@sigmachadtrillioniare6372 Год назад
​@@bigruckus8664casual spotted. Even if he picks him up, he must know how to slam him properly while not getting constantly rammed around, which will not happen
@bleeem
@bleeem Год назад
@@bigruckus8664 what if the slams doesnt kill dj? you are now in the ground with a BJJ beast, and his already sleeping by the time you notice
@Bucephalus84
@Bucephalus84 Год назад
It would take Bradley less experience and time to get to the point to beat a man Dj's size, than vice versa. The bigger man does have a natural advantage until he reaches the point of not being able to wipe himself (mobility)
@DADRB0B55
@DADRB0B55 Год назад
No you don’t i have seen untrained people slam other people all the time & it’s only that much easier when you are twice the weight of the person your slamming.
@9686-n3l
@9686-n3l Год назад
Alex pereira sparring on a hoverboard is my favorite mma clip of all time
@siuu156
@siuu156 11 месяцев назад
There is a big difference between a muscular bodybuilder like bradley and a muscular fighter francis🗿
@contrararian
@contrararian 5 месяцев назад
And there it is ladies and gents. ^✓
@alegro4046
@alegro4046 Год назад
3:00 the joy on the dudes face as he watches his buddy tryin to remove the tape frkm his back never gets old 🤣👌
@rickmorty726
@rickmorty726 Год назад
you r right. I'm pro boxer. and i sparring with people double size of me in boxing class. i tell them go 100%. they laughing in the beginning and after 2 minutes i can knock them out if i want. size doesn't matter only if with big skill difference
@jznfriaz487
@jznfriaz487 11 месяцев назад
I hope this is true
@theunitedworldofworkers7274
@theunitedworldofworkers7274 11 месяцев назад
@@jznfriaz487join a gym and spar with many opponents, and you’ll find it to be true
@myrichardinyoumyrich9743
@myrichardinyoumyrich9743 27 дней назад
Boxing is pillow fighting not a real fight
@somersaultinggiraffe1901
@somersaultinggiraffe1901 27 дней назад
​@@myrichardinyoumyrich9743a boxer would knock you the fuck out
@richcantgame
@richcantgame Год назад
If you put me in a street fight against somebody smaller than me with no training, I think I find a route to victory regardless, whether I need to grapple or throw hands or both. But a smaller professionally trained fighter would absolutely beat my ass. And I think most of us can understand we lose to a MMA fighter. Bradley is a big dude who has connections, and has more “training” than I do just by playing with a belted BJJ grappler. And that’s true for at a decent % of fans, so I am hoping this sparring session happens so I can be humbled even farther.
@richcantgame
@richcantgame Год назад
Obviously DJ beats me in a fight but he does that way easier than he beats Bradley so I want to know how he gets past the size difference because that’s very different of a fight than anyone I’ve seen him fight.
@josip342
@josip342 Год назад
In a croatian podcast Mirko crocop said that he doesnt like the smaller weights cause flyweight guy is pfp number 1 but he would still get his ass kicked from 30 out of 30 bouncers
@satyajitsen8698
@satyajitsen8698 Год назад
Are all bouncers in his country trained killers like him?
@josip342
@josip342 Год назад
@@satyajitsen8698 no but usually bouncers have atleast few years of combat sports training, and if the bouncer is like 110 kg he doesnt need to equal the skills of mighty mouse to beat him. If he knows 5 percent of him je can beat him with the size amd power advantage
@antoniwarcholinski5668
@antoniwarcholinski5668 7 месяцев назад
Bro can you send me a link of the Podcast
@josip342
@josip342 7 месяцев назад
@@antoniwarcholinski5668 ru-vid.comBBcL4D7Qikc?si=lvBvG6olW0EPEgWy
@adisc7475
@adisc7475 Месяц назад
Link?
@natedavis2944
@natedavis2944 Год назад
I call cap on Bradley dunking on a 11 foot goal 😂. He don’t seem as tall as he says and he’d have to jump well over 40 inches for that. Not impossible but unlikely. Especially for a guy who doesn’t train explosive movements
@marcelocaraveo6028
@marcelocaraveo6028 Год назад
100% cap
@lollipopjoe5530
@lollipopjoe5530 Год назад
he’s insanely athletic
@IShotLazer
@IShotLazer Год назад
But he DOES train explosive movements....
@natedavis2944
@natedavis2944 Год назад
@@IShotLazer I don’t think you realize how hard it is to dunk on 11 foot lol. It’s something less than .0001% of the population will ever do. And the few that do probably train jumping a ton more than he does. He’s a body builder not a baller
@EanSmeltser
@EanSmeltser Год назад
He has a 63 inch box jump🤷
@sethfarmer5870
@sethfarmer5870 Год назад
I've been training bjj for abt a year. When i first went into my gym i was already friends with abt 5 people there from a previous friend group we were all in, and they were the ones who got me into it. One of these guys was a 14 year old kid who weighed 120 pounds max, and i was 220 and a couple years older. And he absolutely destroyed me in mma sparring that day. pinned me down and controlled me without exerting any effort at all. and because of that, seeing how easily someone so much smaller could dominate me made me want to learn bjj so badly cus i saw how effective it was.
@riichobamin7612
@riichobamin7612 11 месяцев назад
How is your BJJ journey now ?
@sethfarmer5870
@sethfarmer5870 11 месяцев назад
@@riichobamin7612 in what way? thats a bit too open of a question for me to answer.
@austinb2177
@austinb2177 10 месяцев назад
Yea. But once you get some experience, and if you keep your strength and conditioning up, you’re gonna destroy him. That’s the thing with fighting. I think skill beats size until size becomes too much or size learns skill. A 100lb difference in your situation is HUGE
@riichobamin7612
@riichobamin7612 10 месяцев назад
@@sethfarmer5870 journey as in how do you feel about Bjj now and how far along you are.
@sethfarmer5870
@sethfarmer5870 10 месяцев назад
@riichobamin7612 well I've trained very inconsistently due to a lot of life circumstances so I'm only a 1 stripe white belt. But I feel like next time the coach is giving out stripes I'll be called up to get my second. I love the sport and I'm 100x better than I was when I started. I've lost massive amounts of fat from training as well and am in the best shape I've been since I was a kid.
@Zohard104
@Zohard104 Год назад
Honestly I agree we push 70 to 75 and there’s your new division 65 and 75
@vidarrodinsson2237
@vidarrodinsson2237 Год назад
Size and strength matters. Size as both your weight and bone density, and how tall you are and how long your arms and legs are But, I'd say, for MMA, there's this hierarchy: actual martial art skill, endurance, speed, size, strength. In grappling and wrestling strength matter more, in strikibg strength pretty much doesn't matter.
@johnpohn3299
@johnpohn3299 11 месяцев назад
If you are 5'9+ weigh around 95 kg nd well trained than you can defeat any bodybuilder.
@Boogieman618
@Boogieman618 8 месяцев назад
I have to disagree. Correct me if I’m wrong but there hasn’t been a single ufc champion who used their “speed”. Most of them are bigger than their whole division and strong as fuck. Strength trumps speed and quickness any day of the week.
@1998jroy
@1998jroy Год назад
Technique is an effective use of strength it can literally multiply your strength however if the strength difference is great and the bodybuilder knows the basics he have a good chance Just let them learn the basics of fighting and it's a different story
@gilbertoflores7397
@gilbertoflores7397 Год назад
Hit them in the liver, they'll go down. Anyone, any size will get dropped by a good hit to the liver.
@zeehutt7876
@zeehutt7876 Год назад
Doing BJJ taught me that the best route is strength and technique. Both matter and both will only get you so far.
@DrakeBrunette
@DrakeBrunette Год назад
I would generally bet on the massive (6'+, 220lb+) athlete over a smaller flyweight or bantamweight opponent IF....and I seriously mean IF... they had at least 1-2 years of solid striking/grappling training with a genuinely good coach... Because if a large athlete has acquired the basics & fundamentals of fighting then the smaller guy (even a black belt) could potentially be in for a rude awakening. You know how hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard? Thats often true! But sometimes talent only has to work half as hard to beat a genetically disadvantaged opponent.
@TheLORDNIGHTSHIELD
@TheLORDNIGHTSHIELD 10 месяцев назад
Well it depends. We all know how big dudes are being destroyed by way smaller dudes. Example: Fedor destroying big guys, Brock Lesnar who lost to submission etc. It all comes to experience, fightings style, mood, and of course chemistry. In general I do agree with you that mass has value, but mass itself(even if it is clean one) is not enough. It is exactly like car engine. You may have big V8, but if you do not have proper traction, handling, transmission - you will lose the race. I am not MMA dude, but I spend a lot of time training different arts, from BJJ to Muai Thai, and what I can say, you should find optimum correlation. I know dudes those can punch concrete wall with full force. No matter how big you are, your face will suffer. To be fast, to be strong, and to be elastic. Keep in mind, big mass requires more oxygen, and If you keep for 1-2 minutes, big guys will lost. Example: Tank Abbott. Plus also consider bones - it is not enough to have big muscles, you should also focus on your core. If I break your leg by kick, or submission, cut your face by elbow, you are as good as dead, because your mass will be an issue for you, and opening for opponent. Try not size, but functionality. Cat of the same size, will always beat a dog.
@chonzen1764
@chonzen1764 11 месяцев назад
Good point separating striking and grappling. Striking size does matter that is why boxing has weight classes. But at around the 200lb mark any man can KO any other man regardless of size. The body's ability to take a punch doesn't' grow proportional to size. My father was a old school fighter who boxed back when it was still a college sport. He called HW two eggs fighting with hammers because of the difference between the bodies ability to punch relative to the nervous systems ability to take a punch. Now grappling is a whole different animal. There is no limit. The example I always give is Brock Lesner. Watch his NCAA film. It's not some example of skill. It like watching a dad wrestling his kid in the living room. It takes a Kurt Angle v. Brock Lesner skill disparity to overcome that strength disparity. And even then Angle is a legit 210.
@obscurelines
@obscurelines Год назад
Have so many thoughts on this. Have fought bigger fighters and found them weak. Have had novice big guys punch me and it was hilarious. That said, watch videos of bodybuilders roll with black belt BJJ guys and the BJJ guy always wins, but it's never that easy. Huge skill, years learning and it's still work to beat a novice when the novice is made of steel. In terms of the street there is definitely a part of self defence which is just looking like someone people wouldn't see as an easy target and in that case bodybuilders have an obvious advantage.
@bennogb5069
@bennogb5069 Год назад
its a fight of skill in that enviornment, not an actual fight tho.
@lm10_dxz91
@lm10_dxz91 11 месяцев назад
@@bennogb5069 And you think the bodybuilder wins in an actual fight? LOL
@insomni4csub533
@insomni4csub533 11 месяцев назад
Im so happy to see people are waking up size and strength are the defined traits for victory. Especially if they have that functional strength on lock
@Jammil2477
@Jammil2477 Год назад
I’d put a skilled fighter against a bodybuilder any day. Every skilled fighter I’ve ever known defeats the non martial artist. Occasionally, you might get an anomaly come out of nowhere, but even they stumble against martial artists.
@Boogieman618
@Boogieman618 11 месяцев назад
But when the big dude knows the fundamentals it’s way closer than you think.
@somersaultinggiraffe1901
@somersaultinggiraffe1901 27 дней назад
​@@Boogieman618skill is relative. Unless the big dude is nearly as skilled as the smaller one, his size is not gonna make a difference
@Haldaemon
@Haldaemon 2 месяца назад
There’s a priority of what is important in a fighter Skill>Speed>Strength>Size Skill is the most important attribute. It can be overcome, but you need a massive disparity in Speed or Strength to do that.
@profoundpro
@profoundpro Год назад
I'll never forget when me, as a 200 lb striker, rolled for the first time with my 135 lb BJJ black belt instructor. Let's just say his knee on belly made me tap 😂 There's definitely a crossover tho where my strength really mattered - mostly low-mid tier dudes in the 180 or less weight range.
@ates423
@ates423 10 месяцев назад
It’s funny to me because most of the time the comparison is a large fit guy who hasn’t trained a fight in a day of his life vs a small guy who has been professionally training his entire life. There’s never a comparison on a guy who trains as a side hobby 2 or 3 times a week while juggling other real life responsibilities, you know, the average guy who dabbles a bit in martial arts. That speaks volumes of how dumb the argument is because it should be pretty obvious that a larger, stronger, and more athletic guy will whoop the other any day of the week.
@JamesTheWise_
@JamesTheWise_ 11 месяцев назад
The key is to have the best of both worlds, like Alexander Karelin: athletic & muscular, yet very skilled in martial arts (greco roman wrestling in his case).
@hotfunyunsop6196
@hotfunyunsop6196 Год назад
Not a single person with a brain cell doesn't think strength and size matter, especially when two similar skilled opponents fight. DJ and the RU-vidr is a lot different lol
@zcutter
@zcutter Год назад
Bro thanks. Like people keep saying, “size definitely matters”. Likes of course it does! It’s blatantly common sense, no need to restate the obvious.
@grappling.enthusiast
@grappling.enthusiast Год назад
@@zcutter THANK YOU there's so many comments that are repeating "ofc size matters cause blah blah.." like it's some sort of hot take.
@ElDrHouse2010
@ElDrHouse2010 Год назад
a lot of people think size and strength does not matter, especially those wannabe badass "I'm an street figther not a cage MMA fighter" types. That swear they are 100-0 on the street and think this matters to anyone.
@zcutter
@zcutter Год назад
@@ElDrHouse2010 I’ve never heard of anyone like that besides Bradley Martian, but he thinks he’ll win bc he’s strong and big
@bennogb5069
@bennogb5069 Год назад
@@zcutter small guys like taht ussually say that. Big gyus ussually just rely on their size. Only small guys bring up "street fight skill" in a casual conversation.
@jamesholyfield3304
@jamesholyfield3304 2 месяца назад
I think us in the MMA community is understating how many bodybuilder are athletic, most body builders are former athletes from wrestling , football or rugby that’s how they got into lifting it’s only a select few that’s only about lifting and aesthetics
@fostersstubbyasmr9557
@fostersstubbyasmr9557 Год назад
Lotta small guys here very insecure. No matter how good you are a 400lb strongman will beat a 150lb man in a street fight. Ju-jitsu is not a real fight. And even most top Bjj guys will admit there is a limit where size doe take its toll. Bradley on the other hand is not strong or explosive nor athletic like a strongman athlete. So he’s still delusional
@Ropewatch
@Ropewatch Год назад
Yes the cope is strong. Like duh of course its looking bad for clueless bigger guys. But let’s assume the bigger does know how to fight. The bigger guys need less skill investment for a win and that is dangerous. Nothing is stopping big guys from getting to atleast 66% or 75% of the stamina of the smaller guy. A big guy who does actually know how to fight is scary. Doesn’t fall for shit as easily and doesn’t get gassed as fast as you would like.
@asto5767
@asto5767 11 месяцев назад
@@Ropewatch Yeah but if you trained (which you don't) you'd know that most big dudes quit after a month or two.
@supersoldierx40
@supersoldierx40 Год назад
I got best up in a kickboxing match while out weighing the guy by 20 kgs which is kirk 50 pounds? I was a big powerlifter 90 killos and had started kickboxing for 3 months at the time and this small 155er comes and just dominated me for 3 rounds lmao speed and technique are more important than anything Since then I switched to mma and I can beat guys who are bigger than me but have less skill Size absolutely matters but its less than people think skill is always always more important
@FelixSubs
@FelixSubs Год назад
Technique > Speed > Power Size definitely matters, but with more variables we aren't counting everything in for a good judgement. You're gifted your size, and so it is super important
@DivineAtheistWannabe
@DivineAtheistWannabe Год назад
It's simple. If Bradley manages to slam DJ in the octagon, but still loses, then we can conclude he would've cracked DJ's skull in a proper streetfight.
@bennogb5069
@bennogb5069 Год назад
yeah dudes pretend like DJ doesnt have engage with him, when he does have to get close to punch or gra. The reach difference is crazy and longer legs = biggers steps and more speed to catch him up.
@TheNEOverse
@TheNEOverse 11 месяцев назад
You say that as if he could literally just slam DJ. That's a lot easier said than done.
@jayesh1891
@jayesh1891 4 месяца назад
as if this bradley guy didnt get humbled by a 5'8" guy already
@PikUpYourPantsPatrol
@PikUpYourPantsPatrol 11 месяцев назад
Ok, why do you people extend the size and strength argument only to striking? Submissions wont work either cause Bradley can just rip Demetrious Johnson's grip or pick him up and slam him.
@christianc.christian5025
@christianc.christian5025 Месяц назад
To be clear, McGregor didn't spar with the Mountain "in the street" or even in a scenario anywhere close to it. A gym that size with an even, level mat is not a typical setting.
@yokiryuchan7655
@yokiryuchan7655 9 месяцев назад
If a skilled Heavyweight MMA fighter beats a lightweight skilled MMA fighter, The heavyweight didn't win because he was a better fighter, he won because he was just bigger. That's why they have weight classes in MMA and boxing etc. Size matters. It's not impossible for a smaller guy to beat a bigger guy in a fight, It does happen. and a skilled little guy will have no problem taking down a big guy if the big guy has no fighting skills. but generally speaking, a skilled big guy will always beat a skilled little guy.
@furioushinzo1063
@furioushinzo1063 8 месяцев назад
WOWWW THIS IS THE BEST WAY TO EXPLAIN IT THANK YOU
@jonathanfranklin4448
@jonathanfranklin4448 10 месяцев назад
You must not been in a fight. DJ would lose to a much heavier and taller opponent. No matter how skill DJ is. You're not factoring in the heavier opponents ability to adsorb the strikes of the smaller opponent. I didn't understand this until i was booked to fight a much heaver opponent who walk through my spinning kicks like it wasn't nothing. no opponent has done that before him.. I betted Conor would lose to Diaz with that knowledge and won. that guy was only 20 pounds heavier. The scenario you proposed was an extreme differences in height, weight, and, strength. DJ strike will feel like cotton balls to a man that size and Dj could block a strike from that guy and still be knocked across the ring. Remember when Francis would go around letting professional fighters/boxers hit him in the stomach while he stands there. That what I'm talking about. If you punch an elephant full power 100x that elephant will think an ant bite him.
@lustbubo4638
@lustbubo4638 Год назад
You know what, Bears don't know Jui-Jitzu, but i guarantee you any guy who tries to grapple an angry one would get destroyed
@somersaultinggiraffe1901
@somersaultinggiraffe1901 27 дней назад
Khabib literally trains with bears. Besides, human physiology is nothing like bears. Bears literally can't be hurt because they have so much fur and fat and also have claws and teeth. Absolute garbage comparison.
@bradipobello7052
@bradipobello7052 Год назад
Honestly as I'm also quite a big guy compared to most people, when I hear people who are 1.60m or 1.70m tall and weigh 50kg wet say they can beat me with their experience in fighting i always laugh, the only thing i need to do is throw a punch or kick and the challenge is over, and i have only been doing boxing for only like 2 Months
@blueheart9873
@blueheart9873 Год назад
Let's do it
@blueheart9873
@blueheart9873 11 месяцев назад
@@dinfast Put some respect on us short guys
@gj1234567899999
@gj1234567899999 2 месяца назад
This question is already answered in - Sumo wrestling! In sumo, there is no weight limit, and no downside to being as big as possible. You have 250lb people considered “small” going up against 600 lb people. While the bigger guys win more, the small guys win a good share, and the biggest sumos of all time are not the best all time. So while all things begging equal size is important - things are not equal, and skill is not equal.
@imaXkillXya
@imaXkillXya Год назад
Probably the best video on why Leon Edwards has the most aesthetic physique.
@ElDrHouse2010
@ElDrHouse2010 Год назад
steroids
@mba321
@mba321 Год назад
Best comment.
@CostelloDamian
@CostelloDamian 3 месяца назад
why?
@Shadowrulzalways
@Shadowrulzalways 10 месяцев назад
Size means way less when the smaller guy has far more skill than the larger person. Yes, size matters but ONLY if both individuals are close or equal in skill. Plus I don’t think that being in a street fight would change anything for Mighty Mouse against Bradley. Because even if he could just pick up and slam him, Mighty Mouse isn’t going to get KO’d that easily. He is very well-conditioned and he wouldn’t allow that to happen anyway. Because all he has to do is tackle Bradley and then get him in a ground game. It’s over. Street fight or not, it doesn’t affect the skill level of a fighter. All it does is add more benefits to the more skilled fighter because that means he can play dirty too. Skill will always be the dominant factor in fighting and nothing will change that. And yes, even in striking, being just heavier, doesn’t make you more durable. Eddie Hall was asked to take a kick from a 9-year-old kid who did Muay Thai. And the kid landed a solid kick on his leg, and Eddie screamed curse words and hopped on one foot in pain. No joke. Look it up. To end this comment off, when it comes to close or equally skilled fighters, size is king. BUT when it comes to fighting in general, skill is the TRUE king. And it always will be.
@Trizzer89
@Trizzer89 10 месяцев назад
It isnt exactly strength that matters. You need the right kind of strength. Punching power obviously. Wrestling move strength too
@contrararian
@contrararian 5 месяцев назад
THANK YOU. There are levels and different kinds of strength. People out here fighting oafs who don't know how to use their peak strength especially if it's functional strength or maximum strength.
@Ektor-yj4pu
@Ektor-yj4pu 5 месяцев назад
It's like between military forces: a big powerful but untrained and inexperienced military will probably lose against a much smaller and weaker but well trained and experienced military force but if the big and powerful military force is well trained and experienced too, then the smaller military will be probably pulverized.
@alvaroruiz588
@alvaroruiz588 Год назад
DJ will smoke Bradley 😂 Brad will tire out then get choked out
@Gxnqe
@Gxnqe 5 месяцев назад
Khabib taught him about strength
@vutran3758
@vutran3758 11 месяцев назад
Imagine how terrifying Lebron would be if he actually decided to learn how to fight
@contrararian
@contrararian 5 месяцев назад
🔥✅
@somersaultinggiraffe1901
@somersaultinggiraffe1901 27 дней назад
Not much
@many6747
@many6747 Год назад
DJ vs Bradley on concrete: Bradley presses forward trying to grab DJ, then DJ lands an inside leg kick to throw off Bradley's balance, or make him reach for the leg. Then DJ would throw a feint up high then go for a single leg. (single leg so he doesn't get Batista bombed) Then Bradley won't know what to do on the ground, he'd try to muscle DJ off him or just stand up, either of which would open him up for a submission.
@bennettfender9927
@bennettfender9927 Год назад
Technically not all street fights are on concrete admittedly I live out in the country and perhaps their not technically street fights but I’ve seen plenty of fights on the grass and on dirt roads just my two cents.
@sensam6155
@sensam6155 Год назад
*ALL* street fights take place on concrete streets. What you described are called grass fights, and dirt road fights, respectively.
@bennettfender9927
@bennettfender9927 Год назад
@@sensam6155 I did mention this admittedly guess we could call them all non sanctioned fights hell idk we need a better overall term for these 😆.
@DarkStoneXII
@DarkStoneXII Год назад
Thank you again, MMA Che, I love your unique content style on MMA, and keep it up dude.
@FirebonE_88
@FirebonE_88 11 месяцев назад
When the skills are the same, size does matter. Jones, Miocic, Emelianenko or Ngannou would murder Khabib, McGregor or GSP. I mean why do weight classes exist?
@bnieto99
@bnieto99 2 дня назад
Weight classes exist because they want you to think size matters. Of course this is a weak belief for the weak minded. In ancient Greece there were no weight classes for boxing and others martial arts.
@FirebonE_88
@FirebonE_88 2 дня назад
@@bnieto99, OK. They should make matches like Jones vs Islam or Usyk versus Pacquiao. I'm sure the smaller guy will win, according to you.
@madmaxiemartialartsnerd485
@madmaxiemartialartsnerd485 Год назад
good video as always. For part 1 When it comes to being a complete fighter. It's all about deciding a good training routine that fits you. Now i feel 50 percent of how to be a great fighter is solved, and will be near identical to everyone else, than like 30 - 40 percent will be more focused on what your speciality is, are you a boxer? a kicker? a grappler? then that final 10 percent is what I call "the acessory". Meaning something that is useful, but mainly something only you do. And I feel that final 10 percent is what really defines and makes your style complete. For Connor that final 10 percent was his movement training, and you really did see it's principles fully come to show highlight in his glory days. As for the fall of COnor that's a whole subject on it's own. For part 2 Size vs technique, technique vs size. A big issue here is being 260 IS A huge fucking advantage, that would dwarf many hobby fighters who are in the 140 range. If you are a 140 hobbyiest boxer who trains like twice a weak. No you are not beating someone who is 260. Even if they never train. HOWEVER here is where context really matters. Bradley is a BODY BUILDER. his sport is completely about bulking his muscles as much as humanly possible, while remaining as low body fat as possible. They also put all their training into building muscle, which means they are not working on their flexibility, their cardio is going to be on the low side, and the muscles they do have, they don't even know how to use properly in a combat context. Most body builders are pretty smart, because you have to be to reach that level of size, so I am pretty sure Brad knows this and is doing this whole campaign purely for clout. Unless he's just that fucking stupid, I see no way a body buildng veteran like him isn't aware of the countless health problems a body builder has. And would just die in the cardio match against a mma fighter alone. However if bradley lets say, took a break from body building, put on some healthy fat to around the 15 percent range. Then spent lets say a year no longer body building and putting a lot of focus on boxing or wrestling. Even after only a year, I don't believe anyone in the lighter weight divisions would be able to take him on. Despite him only achieving mediocore technique. So context really matters here when we talk about weight. Bradley will die, especially if he's prepping for a competition or a photoshoot for hes going to be on a diet, low body fat, and at his most vulnerable. But lets re write the script to. "260 body builder who ALSO did wrestling in highschool for all four years, is now getting back in shape and at 15 percent body fat while going on daily jogs". Completely different beast.
@mrpopo-sf3ke
@mrpopo-sf3ke Год назад
Bob Sapp at his peak beat the fuck out of the most decorated K-1 champion in history Ernesto Hoost with just volume of ugly swinging punches. Twice. Sure he suffered a loooot of pain, and not just by Ernesto, but by his own strikes. I believe he broke his hands and got various wear and tear after. But yeah size absolutely matters depending of who we're talking about. That being said, Bradley Martin is not Bob Sapp. If he beats the migty mouse I will stop watching social media all together.
@mugojr4766
@mugojr4766 11 месяцев назад
If a guy can flick you around like his child then strength matters. If he can take damage without problem then strength matters.
@EBiz-tv9jq
@EBiz-tv9jq 11 месяцев назад
Reality, that the mma guys avoid, is that professional bodybuilders may not be good fighters, but most, like 99% of big athletic guys who go to gym all yhe time, usually know quite a lot more about sports, boxing etc. Almost noone just does lifting. So imho on average - bigger athletic muscled guy beats smaller mma guy at street fight. Period. Just because you do sports that require learning a lot of punches doesnt mean a guy you oppose cant throw a punch at you. Lol, look at "supermega best striker" Mcgregor eating the most onvious windmill punch from Khabib and losing the match eventually. Khabib cant punch for sh**t, yet the megaboxer mcgregor still ate a match-changing punch. Same goes for mma. You can train your whole life, but underestimate some big guy and he will break your jaw.
@JoshA0669
@JoshA0669 3 месяца назад
It's not a smart move to square up with a dude much bigger than you on the street unless you absolutely had to, and only then do what you got to do to get away. But best option, trained or not, is to find a peaceful way to resolve it. On the street, anything goes if it's a self defense situation.
@carancole5974
@carancole5974 8 месяцев назад
Bradley got taken down by some wrestler who is 160
@Jack_80
@Jack_80 Год назад
i love how some mma fans claim size means nothing. i respond with "yeah, fighters like khabib nearly killed himself cutting 50 pounds every fight because it makes no difference at all. he could have just cut 30-35 pounds to 170 and been just as successful, he just wanted to cut that excessive weight for the hell of it."
@Poatan.chama.
@Poatan.chama. Год назад
The dudes at 170 are also trained fighters, this video is about a huge untrained guy vs a smaller trained guy.
@asto5767
@asto5767 11 месяцев назад
The guy that does muay thai 4-5 a week but isn't a professional would kill you bro. Size matters when both guys are skilled, but you're living vicariously through Bradley (like all fat gymrats with zero cardio). You're not that guy lol
@marcmohammed2222
@marcmohammed2222 9 месяцев назад
I train MT 5 days a week. If someone is a foot taller and 100 lbs heavier, you would be fucked mate. Like think about it. What move would you do ? Jab a head you can’t reach? Teep and go backwards ? Leg kicks sure but to do that you need to be in range and they and reach your little ass head from above very easily
@asto5767
@asto5767 9 месяцев назад
@@marcmohammed2222 if its some fatass that has no aggressive temperament he's not gonna be privy to use his size the way you're expecting him. You're forgetting that 99% of the planet don't have that dog in them. If it's a guy that trains then obviously, but for a guy that trains MT 5 times a week, you should've already known that differentiation. Don't be dense.
@asto5767
@asto5767 9 месяцев назад
@@marcmohammed2222 And a guy that's like 5'10" can reach a dude thats 6'5". You're using extreme examples because ur some 5'4" muay thai manlet LOL
@bullseye7721
@bullseye7721 11 месяцев назад
With the same technical level, the stronger and bigger one would win
@austinb2177
@austinb2177 10 месяцев назад
This is exactly what it is. Skill beats size until either size learns skill or size is just too much.
@kaylewest7
@kaylewest7 4 месяца назад
Strength makes anything you learn exponentially more dangerous. Just imagine a guy who is 3x strong as your regular man(not even that big, avg bench rm is 60 kg i can lift 200kg, avg ohp is 30kg i can do 120kg) and then he learns techniques to deal with larger opponents, lighter opponents will have little to do unless theyre pro fighters and the other guy is not.
@CostelloDamian
@CostelloDamian 3 месяца назад
Funny how size is such an important factor yet heavy weight is 205-265. Meanwhile every other division is 10-15 difference.
@Bluis5445
@Bluis5445 Год назад
Yea but what happens when the 6’4 250lbs dude learns how to wrestle? What say you? Little man.
@sigmachadtrillioniare6372
@sigmachadtrillioniare6372 Год назад
Very small percentage of population is actually that big. Even than, only if that dude is athletic build can he do something (athletic build =\= gym build) gym build is useless dead mass. But yea if youre that big with amazing conditioning. You can make up for lack of skill
@-Ice_Cold-
@-Ice_Cold- Год назад
What happens when a 7'0 guy trains in MMA? What say you, little man?
@mba321
@mba321 Год назад
@@-Ice_Cold- Then you get Stefan Struve.
@TheComedyHistorian
@TheComedyHistorian Год назад
MMA Che is the greatest UFC fighter of all time… if you take Chael Sonnen out of the equation
@jagerthedog4378
@jagerthedog4378 Год назад
I'm always in the side of the fighter but DJ vs Bradly Martin actually has me perplexed. Because however, at the end of the day, I think Bradly is just gonna lay on top of DJ for the whole duration
@hassanedwan2799
@hassanedwan2799 Год назад
bodybuilders are unathletic. Do the comparison with Olympic weightlifters, strong men, and powerlifters whose size is far more functional than just aesthetic. They still prolly lose but it's much closer.
@jacksparr0w300
@jacksparr0w300 Год назад
Kinda like with Nate Diaz and Jake Paul. Nate Diaz came up, what 20lbs to fight Jake when in retirement in a sport he didn’t do.
@gorocketzz6517
@gorocketzz6517 Год назад
What if Bradley just decided to sprint and tackle Devin Haney
@13bfc
@13bfc Год назад
They need 135 145 155 165 175 185 & then you can probably do 205 & perhaps heavy weight? Or even split heavy weight between 225 & make the rest over 225
@GreenTeaSamurai
@GreenTeaSamurai Месяц назад
people who say size doesn’t matter that much are absolutely fooling themselves. Of course if you are 150lb college athlete vs a skinny fat 200lb office worker you’re gonna smoke them. But gotta compare apples to apples.
@Alphabet7
@Alphabet7 Год назад
But what if he's 260?
@MexicanCrusader
@MexicanCrusader Год назад
Just stay out of the street, remember he can only best you in a street fight, not a cage fight.
@junichiroyamashita
@junichiroyamashita Год назад
3:15 i wonder if bodybuilding can have any specific benefits to fighting. Maybe the defined muscle can give some kind of protection?
@locke8412
@locke8412 Год назад
big and strong necks could help them absorb strikes to the head
@raymondshamsher9052
@raymondshamsher9052 Год назад
To put it simply, size and strength only matters when both men are UFC fighters and can fight, if one is a martial artist and the other a gym bro that thinks he's tough because he is big the martial artist will destroy the gym bro. People who can't fight will always close their eyes and flinch when punches come at them while a martial artist has sparred thousands of rounds and knows what to do when punches come flying. Also you wanna see Bradley Martyn's fighting ability, look at him hitting someone at a UFC event it's the kind of punch speed people have when they throw punches underwater lol. Not to mention he just wants to use pure strength and ragdoll someone but against someone with bjj background that won't work.
@UN1VERS3S
@UN1VERS3S 6 месяцев назад
Depends bro. Some UFC lightweights can beat middleweights.
@benitocolombus5072
@benitocolombus5072 Год назад
Honestly as an amateur bodybuilder/powerlifter I hold a biased ( 6'1 240). I am an avid fan of the ufc, i have taken courses for BJJ and boxing on and off throughout the years and I do bag work by myself about 3 times a week for only about 15 minutes and I've been in about 10 street fights in my life. That being said I am no where near even an amateur mma fighter but I know more than the average person. What I think many people who train MMA are missing is experience in the world of bodybuilding/weightlifting I don't think they realize how much weaker they are physically than someone who trains in that world. I've rolled with people who have much more experience than me but also much smaller and yes in the long run they will win but for the first 3 minutes my strength, explosion and athleticism is just too much for them with no disrespect it feels sometimes like I am wrestling with a teenage boy. Now I am not even freakishly large or strong im also not on steroids, now imagine someone like Halfthor bjornson or brian shaw the difference in strength and power would be insurmountable for someone like khabib or conor in a street fight. These guys would grab any ufc fighter between 135-180lbs and there is nothing that fighter could do to break their hold or to stop them from picking them up and smashing them into the concrete like a ragdoll. On top a guy like halfthor could literally do a game of thrones eye gouge and no amount of BJJ could stop it or he could literally just grab the head and smash the back of it into the ground repeatedly with a level of power that is insane. In a "no rules" street fight it becomes very interesting because their strength would allow them to a lot of damage from a top position that you can't do in the UFC and they most likely will be able to secure a top position at the beginning of any fight just because of size and strength. Think of all the ways you could hurt/kill someone from mount that you can't do in the ufc like strangling them, breaking their windpipe, gouging their eyes, smashing their head into the ground, grabbing your fingers and snapping them leaving you basically useless. etc.. The UFC should just make these freakshow fights happen just like PRIDE did back in the day. People would pay big money for PPV with these freak fights and it would answer some of the questions that we've always had.
@Negotiator98
@Negotiator98 11 месяцев назад
There was this wrestler who weighed 72kg took on a bodybuilder weighing 158kg, there are levels to grappling and fighting, since a small guy is at a disadvantage then he will just go straight to the balls and instantly cripple any man regardless of size, since smaller guys are faster.
@asto5767
@asto5767 11 месяцев назад
They already did lol. Watch UFC 1; a 600lb man got KO'd by a 200lber. 400lbs of difference. You don't know what you're talking about LOL
@benitocolombus5072
@benitocolombus5072 11 месяцев назад
@@asto5767 i think the fight you're thinking about is a 200lb guy vs a 400lb guy. Also theres a big difference getting hit by a 200lb man and getting hit by a 130lb guy. Even if the weight difference between opponents are the same the difference is still there. The amount of force the human head can take before getting knocked out OBVIOUSLY doesnt scale at a 1:1 ratio with your body weight. Its common sense. If youre 330lbs getting hit by a 130lb guy its going to be a lot less damaging then getting hit by a 200lb guy when youre 400lbs. This is really just obvious why does it have to be explained to you. Also ufc 1 was like almost 30 years ago, were due for more fights like this. 1 fight 30 years ago isn't really enough.
@benitocolombus5072
@benitocolombus5072 11 месяцев назад
@@Negotiator98 Any of the worlds top 30 strongmen would win against this 72kg wrestler. sorry bud
@Negotiator98
@Negotiator98 11 месяцев назад
@@benitocolombus5072 nope, lol.
@capofodedor7399
@capofodedor7399 9 месяцев назад
You have to understand most street fights end with sucker punches most people can’t fight the only thing they know how to do is throw the over right hand which is so easy to defend ,so if you’re skilled enough you should have no problem washing an unskilled guy no matter the scenario
@terryl9996
@terryl9996 Год назад
I like the weight divisions the way it is because it makes match-ups more interesting at 55 & 70
@MiggyBiggy
@MiggyBiggy 11 месяцев назад
Okay but the thumbnail is completely off Mighty Mouse would rip Martin to shreds, this whole size matters in a fight only when both men are fighters or there is an appalling difference in size, weight classes do exist in the ufc yes, but everyone in that league are the best fighters in the world so size is more of a substantial factor
@haydenpoopdale9705
@haydenpoopdale9705 Год назад
been waiting for a post thank you 🙏
@stampatron
@stampatron Год назад
Never thought i'd live to see the day where Celebrity Death Match became a real thing, lol 2023 is wild.
@masonbain7098
@masonbain7098 Год назад
nah so many body builder and tall people think they can fight, but a wrestler would break their neck
@PaulRamen
@PaulRamen 11 месяцев назад
6:08 what the hell is going here 😂
@The11thDimension91
@The11thDimension91 11 месяцев назад
The comment sections of those pics with the mma fighters standing next to strongmen competitors / bodybuilders are flooded with comments by 2 types of people 1. Guys who only lift 2. Guys don't lift or fight but pretend to be experts in online hypothetical debates about fighting; then you have your select few who actually know a thing or two who probably do a good amount of both fighting & lifting. I'm not gonna lie I always read the comments on those kind of pics for the lols.
@rtio8677
@rtio8677 Год назад
As a small dude. This video have too much cope. What is the most important thing that sumo wrestlers(a one place where there are no "weight classes") do? They eat a lot. Because the reality is, in real life fight, someone bigger and stronger would almost always win against someone smaller and weaker. I know this, because I saw many times in a kickboxing ring(which is less forgiving for different weight classes than wrestling) a middle class "champ level athlete" gets beaten in a minute by a heavyweight who would be training for a month, after the middle class would ask to spar with the big guy "for real". Wanna get good at fighting for real? Eat a lot and gain weight, try to become a heavyweight. 220 pounds+. You can do it while training martial arts too.
@gusarda2340
@gusarda2340 Год назад
I don't think you're listening the video lol, he said that size matters only if the bigger guy have the training, the athletic advantage, and cardio, that's also why he said that BM not going to be an easy fight for DJ, 'cause BM not just a regular bodybuilder, that fight will depend a lot on the fact on who have more cardio and nimble than the other.
@Urmomma5f4t
@Urmomma5f4t Год назад
Those kickboxers sound like they suck tbh. Champ maybe of a crap organization. At the highest levels of combat sports untrained people are easy work . Especially in MMA…we only see fighters like Diaz look bad but only in comparison to the highest level of combat athletes. The strength matters if the skill gap isn’t gigantic. Between DJ and Bradley that skill gap is huge. We’ve been through this shit in early UFC. Watch those
@Charles-kc2vt
@Charles-kc2vt Год назад
This is delusion 😂
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