Why society tortured this groundbreaking comic artist 

Thank you

@@EliotThemastermind-xb6xpHe wasn’t talking to you, narcissist.

@@shaquillebiffee890 wdym

Yeah, way better than Linkara, a.k.a. The Lightbringer, lol.

Facts

They mainly only really say "separate the art from the artist" when the artist has done really really bad things but you can't help but still love and admire the work they have done. It all really depends on WHAT they did.

@@Gadget-Walkmen A prime example of that would be H.P. Lovecraft. Guy was CRAZY racist even for his time, and it shows in his works as he would write about various minorities in very unflattering lights. He even wrote an infamous rant about his bigotry. Despite that, he also paved the road for Cosmic Horror (AKA Lovecraftian Horror but I'm pretty sure that term been all but dropped from culture as a whole) to exist, and that's all we acknowledge. Am I saying Cosmic horror is inherently racist because of Lovecraft and his bigotry? No, of course not. Like you said, separate the art from the artist. However, it's still important to know the kinds of people that are writing these stories. For example, did you know J. K. Rowling used goblins as an allegory for jewish people? Its not just that, but also many other ethnicities and minorities are depicted as otherworldly creatures and/or mixed blood wizards throughout the entire series. While not as overt as Lovecraft, it does explain the current crowd she associates with...

LOL Just no. You're completely wrong here as you have NO idea on what you're saying AT ALL. The goblins in Harry Potter ARE NOT "aN AlLeGorY fOR jeWIsH peoPLe" AT ALL, it's just a BAD statement of horrible similarities people are terribly making out to start controversy JUST for the sake of it. Nothing more. There are no "ethnicities" OR "minorities" that are not even CLOSE to being depicted as otherworldly creatures AT ALL in Harry Potter, lol NOT even close and great job at being THIS wrong here as the creatures in the story are JUST meant to be fantasy creatures and nothing more. Your BADLY spewing lies about a series that has NONE of the nonsense that which your falsely accusing it of here at all. You seriously need to STOP saying this nonsense as it's nowhere NEAR what Lovecraft was trying to do at all. It's JUST you and people like you who BADLY are believing this nonsense about Harry Potter and the horrible false allegations against it. You have NO idea on what you're talking about with Harry Potter, nothing more. Are we not allowed to have goblins in fiction now without people WRONGLY associating them with antisemantism now? Are you being serious? LOL That's just false allegations that you people are BADLY doing here. Goblins have LONG since associated with green mischievous little creature who are obsessed with gold before JK Rowling was even born. If anyone making any false connections to that of Jewish people are doing it coincidence and their own biases of trying to look for offensive imagery that's NOT intentionally there. It's THAT simple. The only thing that IS there is the whole commentary of "mixed blood wizards and witches" which is meant to be criticizing anyone who thought they were better from being "pure blood" like malfoy family and what Voldemort was trying to do by trying to kill off anyone who he thought needed to be "cleansed" and the whole story was CRITICIZING them for believing and acting upon those terrible beliefs. Herimone is literally a muggle born witch and it's brought up on how meaningless it is to value being "pure blood", "half blood", or "muggle born" when Herimone has proven to be one of the most gifted magic users in the whole series and out-besting "pure blood" wizards. Ron is apart of a "pure blood family" but he's not that gifted or talented in anything. His whole family is dirt poor but they're among the most nicest and friendliest people OF the Harry Potter Saga. This is clearly to be analogous to race and how your race doesn't matter on who you are or if you're skilled or talented or not, your ACTIONS do and you can come from anywhere and still be heavily gifted and skilled. Harry Potter has taught that it doesn't WHO you are or WHERE you come from, YOU decide what kind of people you are based on your own actions and you shouldn't be judging people based on where they come from and if they d A WHOLE anti-racism theme has been within Harry Potter's central storyline on how BAD ALL of that stuff IS and that people need to STOP believing on something as worthless as "blood value" for you to believe you're better than someone based on whatever "blood family" you're in. Not ONCE throughout Harry Potter has that EVER been placed positively AT ALL and has been harshly criticized THROUGHOUT the series if you ACTUALLY paid attention to what the series has been trying to say about bigotry. This should be PAINFULLY obvious as the story has LONG since been against any form judgement of where people have come from OR what their bloodline is. Just to only judge them as a PERSON and that's it. The terrible things that JK Rowling has said or "involved with" now has NOTHING to do with her work for Harry Potter in the slightest and I'm sick and tried of you people BADLY saying that here as it's just not true. Whatever JK Rowling has become now is NOT what she was during the making of Harry Potter. Nor does Harry Potter have ANY of the negative accusations that you people are badly saying about it as you are. I love HP Lovecraft's work as well despite him being a MASSIVE racist at the time and I love Cosmic Horror for what it is and OBVIOUSLY no one in their right mind would EVER say that cosmic horror is "inHereNtLY RaCISt" lol that's a joke to even BRING UP as an example, I'm just saying that people need to know WHEN to separate the art from the artist at the right moment and that's it. And the nonsense that you're about Harry Potter is just that, NONSENSE because it's flat out WRONG entirely. The creatures and monsters in Harry Potter are JUST meant to be that, monsters and creatures. No different from ANY OTHER fantasy story as NONE of the otherwordly creatures are meant to represent any other "eTHnIcItIEs oR MinOrItIEs" AT ALL in the series in the slightest. You have NO idea on what you're talking about at all when you say that. NOR does anyone at all. They're NOT supposed to negatively represent "real life ethnicities or minorities" in the slightest, that's just flat out WRONG here entirely so and completely false. People are just BADLY seeing something that's NOT there. All fiction is based on reality so any fictional creatures that people might WRONGLY suspect that are associated with real life races are completely in the wrong for doing so. I really wished you didn't tell me this all you did was waste my time in trying to explain the obvious on something that people should have BEEN known right now, it's that simple. My god, you're something else. Stop spreading lies about Harry Potter because NOTHING you've been negatively saying about it is true at all as it's ALL just false lies and bad allegations. Nothing more.@@Raybro16

@@Raybro16 You're completely wrong here as you have NO idea on what you're saying AT ALL. The goblins in Harry Potter ARE NOT "an allegory for jewish people" AT ALL, it's just a BAD statement of horrible similarities people are terribly making out to start controversy JUST for the sake of it. Nothing more. There are no "ethnicities" OR "minorities" that are not even CLOSE to being depicted as otherworldly creatures AT ALL in Harry Potter, lol NOT even close and great job at being THIS wrong here as the creatures in the story are JUST meant to be fantasy creatures and nothing more. Goblins have LONG since associated with green mischievous little creature who are obsessed with gold before JK Rowling was even born. If anyone making any false connections to that of Jewish people are doing it coincidence and their own biases of trying to look for offensive imagery that's NOT intentionally there. It's THAT simple. The only thing that IS there is the whole commentary of "mixed blood wizards and witches" which is meant to be criticizing anyone who thought they were better from being "pure blood" like malfoy family and what Voldemort was trying to do by trying to kill off anyone who he thought needed to be "cleansed" and the whole story was CRITICIZING them for believing and acting upon those terrible beliefs. Hermione is literally a muggle born witch and it's brought up on how meaningless it is to value being "pure blood", "half blood", or "muggle born" when Hermione has proven to be one of the most gifted magic users in the whole series and out-besting "pure blood" wizards. Ron is apart of a "pure blood family" but he's not that gifted or talented in anything. His whole family is dirt poor but they're among the most nicest and friendliest people OF the Harry Potter Saga. This is clearly to be analogous to race and how your race doesn't matter on who you are or if you're skilled or talented or not, your ACTIONS do and you can come from anywhere and still be heavily gifted and skilled. Harry Potter has taught that it doesn't WHO you are or WHERE you come from, YOU decide what kind of people you are based on your own actions and you shouldn't be judging people based on where they come from or what their bloodline is because it’s WRONG to do so and all of those who DO do those things are villainized like Voldemort and all his followers. A WHOLE anti-racism theme has been within Harry Potter's central storyline on how BAD ALL of that stuff IS and that people need to STOP believing on something as worthless as "blood value" for you to believe you're better than someone based on whatever "blood family" you're in. Not ONCE throughout Harry Potter has that EVER been placed positively AT ALL and has been harshly criticized THROUGHOUT the series if you ACTUALLY paid attention to what the series has been trying to say about bigotry. This should be PAINFULLY obvious as the story has LONG since been against any form judgement of where people have come from OR what their bloodline is. Just to only judge them as a PERSON and that's it. The terrible things that JK Rowling has said or "involved with" now has NOTHING to do with her work for Harry Potter in the slightest and I'm sick and tried of you people BADLY saying that here as it's just not true. Whatever JK Rowling has become now is NOT what she was during the making of Harry Potter. Nor does Harry Potter have ANY of the negative accusations that you people are badly saying about it as you are. I love HP Lovecraft's work as well despite him being a MASSIVE racist at the time and I love Cosmic Horror for what it is and OBVIOUSLY no one in their right mind would EVER say that cosmic horror is "inherently racist" lol that's a joke to even BRING UP as an example, I'm just saying that people need to know WHEN to separate the art from the artist at the right moment and that's it. And the nonsense that you're about Harry Potter is just that, NONSENSE because it's flat out WRONG entirely. The creatures and monsters in Harry Potter are JUST meant to be that, monsters and creatures. No different from ANY OTHER fantasy story as NONE of the otherwordly creatures are meant to represent any other "ethnicities or minorities " AT ALL in the series in the slightest. You have NO idea on what you're talking about at all when you say that. NOR does anyone at all. They're NOT supposed to negatively represent "real life ethnicities or minorities" in the slightest, that's just flat out WRONG here entirely so and completely false. People are just BADLY seeing something that's NOT there. All fiction is based on reality so any fictional creatures that people might WRONGLY suspect that are associated with real life races are completely in the wrong for doing so. I really wished you didn't tell me this all you did was waste my time in trying to explain the obvious on something that people should have BEEN known right now, it's that simple. Stop spreading lies about Harry Potter because NOTHING you've been negatively saying about it is true at all as it's ALL just false lies and bad allegations. Nothing more.

​@@Gadget-WalkmenChrist your making points here but the aggressive attitude makes you feel entitled. Either way i guess you've been hearing a lot of accusations and just want to let it all out, although that is a subjective opinion. ehr nonetheless i support you no matter what i think about you as a person entirely your comment makes sense to me, well maybe until someone argues back proving a better claim. I don't see that happening soon, well then goodluck!

I think it makes it less unethical for him to write at least. But yeah, still awful to think that he might have seen himself that way

It’s genius. It’s a bittersweet way to put it out there front and center.

Oop- hey there ^^

This is a great example of how racism has held back art, science and a lots of other fields and there is no way to tell how far we’d be as a species if we’d recognized talent and skill no matter where the source. Harriman’s work could have been just as fantastic and yet would never been given a chance had anybody known the truth. While things are better today it’s a lesson we still haven’t fully learned.

@@coledavidson5630interesting take on it. If anyone has a right to tell any side of any story I believe it’s the person living it. Just because the truth makes anyone uncomfortable does not change its truths. It would be nice to only pick and choose to look at what is agreeable rather than take something in for what it is. I would feel more connected to Herriman for making that comic because even if it were to be looked at as a “mistake” he was living his truth right in front of the world. All I can ever do is feel for myself because everyone’s greatest judgement is in their own mind and heart I find it to be a crime to tell anyone how to think or feel.

Maybe speeches by "AH" were news? The BBC site is "publishing speeches by Putin", what will people say about that in a hundred years?

A communist. Who'da think it!

If he admired hitler he probably would have had him killed.

America didn't want another war and so they just wanted Hitler to do his thing. And Hitler didn't do the nasty stuff all at once it was gradual. Good Lord the lack of context people have with history. It doesn't make Hitler or supporting them any better but Jesus Christ it's like how everybody love Jared Fogle until they found out about his really terrible stuff. It was kind of the same

Imagine the demoralizing daily pressures and yet the ability to create humor. This man was a hero.

Also, Krazy Kat is public domain in Australia.

@@SlapstickGenius23 Wow, no kidding! Are there any good cartoons of the characters by later ?

There's always a burst of creativity when any new artistic medium is invented. The pioneers face the challenge of the ultimate empty page - they're working in a medium where nothing has been done or invented and they have to build all the conventions and styles themselves. But on the other hand, everything they do will be original since there's nothing to compare it to. Inevitably some talents rise to meet the challenge.

Luck-eeeee. I only have 1 volume; I didn't learn much about Krazy Kat or Herriman until after the series was OOP. I did manage to get all but the last volume of Chester Gould's Dick Tracy run, though. Still don't know why Fantagraphics turned it over to IDW though.

That would be so cool!

Damn vid iq out here commenting😂

you should! i just watched all of his available videos in two days. outstanding production!!! deserves attention!

James Baldwin famously said that society has no use for a writer until he's dead. As it was so often with things, Baldwin was right.

how as it obscurity? he had a nationally syndicated strip and it was very artsy. Very few pieces of such ay our visions ever get such a mainstream coverage.

@@MicahMicahel Stop commenting, seriously, your last set of comments got pulled down for spreading misinformation, your STILL spreading misinformation with this other one, nothing you're saying is right here AT ALL!

That is extremely cool

Who is Ignatz and why isn’t it in his name?

@@Buckiz Ignatz is the name of the white mouse from his most famous comic, the aforementioned Krazy Kat series

@@joshuanishanthchristian5217 ok. But why not just use his name? And you said Ignatz was the white mouse? Now I see exactly why?

@@joshuanishanthchristian5217 I see. Ignatz is the white mouse. That’s why.

That’s interesting!

Maybe he misspoke? I don't know how anyone could read any Krazy Kat comic without seeing that Officer Pupp was obviously in love with Krazy. Also, the fact that Krazy was always referred to as "he" even though in every behavioural respect he was feminine is the only "homosexual" aspect I can see in the strip. There were a lot of emotional complexities though. Ignatz Mouse was married and had a family, and his wife kind of treated Krazy as "the other woman," while Krazy treated the wife with respect. One time Krazy became infatuated with a romantic Spanish dog and squelched Ignatz's attempt to throw a brick, leaving Ignatz devastated - he himself didn't know if he was throwing it out of love or hate. The strip is as fascinating emotionally as it is visually.

@@nuckygulliver9607 This video is NOT “fAkE” AT ALL nor was Herriman was “jEwIsH” AT ALL, that’s just a lie that you’re BADLY making up here as the only “fake” here is you and the bad lies you’re spreading in your comments. Herriman WAS black due to society laws. Everything you've said right now just makes you look bad as you have NO idea on what you're saying at all as you're just spreading lies George Herriman IS black, mostly classified AS black due to his mixed race ancestry. The paper in the video SAYS he's colored and that classified AS black in society back then. Look at his name in the center of the screen, it says "colored" to the FAR right. The paper in the video DOES say he's colored entirely at the video. It says "colored" at the FAR right of his name in his birth certificate. You just need to LOOK for it. There IS documentation of him being "black/colored" you just need to LOOK for it. So stop with this "thees no documentation of him being black" because there IS, what you're saying is a flat out LIE here. Herriman was born to mixed-race parents, and his birth certificate lists Herriman as "colored". In the post-Plessy v. Ferguson U.S., in which "separate but equal" racial segregation was enshrined, people of mixed race had to choose to identify themselves as either black or white. The guy in the video is NOT A “gRiFteR” AT ALL, that’s just some nonsense you made up here as the guy in the video is 100% accurate as Mattt is COMPLETELY accurate in his research here with links to EVERYTHING he’s saying. The only person whose a lier AND a grifter is YOU as by badly spreading lies that Herriman was “jEwISh”, that’s a MASSIVE Lie here as there was NOTHING about him that was “jewish ” AT ALL. Stop with your BS, seriously.

God how did I miss that?

@@MicahMicahel LOL Are you for real? He did NOT just "nEeDed a vidEO" AT ALL as the video is 100% true. George was NOT "jeWiSH", you're just BADLY spreading misinformation as what you're saying is just plain lies here as this video is 100% true here. NOTHING about George was "jEwisH", you JUST made that up, leftists do NOT have a "weRiD iSSUe jEwS" in the slightest as you Being jewish is a religion, NOT a race, George was a CATHOLIC and you've been called out of this nonstop. Nobody is trying to "ERaSe tHiS gUy'S rACiAL IdeNtITy" with ANYTHING that is "TrEnDy" at all as George ACTUALLY was IN FACT black/mixed race, as this has been proven with FACTS and evidence here, what you're saying is a flat out lie by denying that here by spreading this nonsense about him being "jeWiSH" and this "jEwfRO" here. LOL Just no. Just STOP!

What

​@WreckItRolfe I guess you didn't watch the video???

How about a video about Matt Baker. Another great black comic book artist

What!? are you smoking yen 😂

@@alkebulanawah4242 lol what? No, he's NOT "smoking yen" AT ALL as what he's saying IS the truth entirely so!

Dude really believes his situation is similar to someone who lived under Jim Crow. The self victimisation is alive and well.

Obama wasn't black either

@@nuckygulliver9607 George Herriman was not Jewish, he was Catholic. He was born into a mixed-race family and came from a line of French-speaking Louisiana Creole mulattoes who were considered free people of color, and were reportedly active in the early abolitionist movement. His paternal great-grandfather, Stephen Herriman, was a white New Yorker who had children with Justine Olivier, a free black woman.

@@thebeatnumberJust ignore that Azov Battalion member

@@Dogy0909 He's literally going around spreading misinformation about man and saying that the video is a lie when he himself is SPREADING lies and false statements about George Herrimen in EVERY way. He has NO idea on what he's saying and denying that Herrimen is a colored man and absolutely the FURTHEST thing from "jewish". Not even his name is "jewish" that he so falsely is spreading lies about.

Probably backed by a company of some kind. Not that it’s necessarily a bad thing, but a lot of new channels that produce high-quality videos are spearheaded by a conglomerate

​@beanburrito4405 big channel with a likeable face = free customers and advertisement

Don't question great content highlighted underrated comics history... just enjoy the ride!!

it's disinformation. anti semitic leftists? George was Jewish. Herriman is a Jewish name and Jews were discriminated against. Jews often have very curly hair. There's even a term called a "jewfro." Why are we trying to erase this guy's racial identity to be trendy according to the current thing?

I didn't read the book, what was it about and what was the reference?

@@Gadget-Walkmen I can't explain it without giving away the plot, but it's a great book and I highly recommend it. The title character, a wealthy woman with no children of her own, dotes on the narrator of the novel and calls him her Ignatz.

@@jonathanmitchell9886 oh ok, gotcha.

it's fake. Jews were called coloured too. He's Jewish. He just had a Jewfro. Jews were discern-minated. This is just another "he was really black" moment... like how Cleopatra was black, Jesus was black.. it's just propaganda. I don't know if he has anti semitic intentions. I'm not saying hat but the ;eft is plainly anti semitic so maybe he doesn t realize anti semitism is being pushed on him.

@@MicahMicahel No it’s NOT “fAkE”, Jews were NOT “ cAlLed coLoUrEd tOo” lol NO they weren’t, that’s a flat out lie that you’re spreading out. He did NOT have a “jEWAFrO” AT ALL, lol you keep badly saying nonsense that’s NOT true at all here AT ALL, just because Jews were “discriminated” doesn’t mean ANY of the nonsense you’re saying is true at all NOR were they even on the same level or discrimination as they were in the United States AT ALL. you have NO idea on what you’re saying right now as there is no “pRoPagAnDA”, you’re just talking crazy and that’s it. The only person that’s “anti semitic” AT ALL is you here by WRONGLY calling him jewish. NO person in the “lEFt” is doing what you’re wrongly saying AT ALL right now.

I never heard about ANY of this

I've made this argument for years: literature is largely a class instrument. It's importance seems entirely determined by the size of the textblock, the narrow line spacing, the width of the gutters, and the absence of illustrations. This way you can "ensure" that the reader must have education and intellect to read it. They see images as a crutch to help the illiterate. The second-oldest physical art form is historically stewarded by goddamned Philistines.

At least the prints still survived, so they became the new originals. Better that than losing them entirely.

p.s. bruf maybe its the camera or the lighting but there is something off-ish with the way you appear compared to previous videos.

Little Nemo was amazingly far ahead of most other comics of it's day, in it's "camera angles" alone. The rest barely caught up by the late 1930's!

Imagine being brainwashed by Republican propaganda and believing in stuff like a "Deep State".

I mean they are pretty much the same thing

@@LEE10987 no ,I think manga is better tbh

​@@LEE10987yup. Comics are comics regardless of the country of origin

Cor fuc'n 'ell, imagine still making the distinction like it's 2002 or something. Spoiler: Disney and Tezuka were friends, My Hero Academia is a love letter to classic X-Men and the proportions of anime girls come from Betty Boop.

​@@worldcomicsreview354Toriyama even said in one volume of dragonball that 101 Dalmatians (the animated movie) was his inspiration to get into making making manga and later anime. Heck season 3 of sword art online borrows heavily from both the original book and Disney's animated version of Alice in wonderland.

How dare you steal my words

You missed a t

I just picked up a Phantom comic by FREW publications, Australia; issue 1960! A Xmas Special. Apart from reprinting classic daily strips by Falk, Moore, McCoy and Barry and more recent writers and artists, Frew also reprints the translated Egmont Phantom comics from Denmark and occasionally from Brazil and India. The Phantom is still extraordinarily popular in these countries, more so than in his country of origin, the USA, despite efforts by Marvel and DC. In the Sixties Charlton and Western Publishing (Dell) had long running series that had more success with the character. I personally like the Danish versions which hit on a successful formula whereby they utilised the Phantom's long four century heritage to spin stories across time and place, thus avoiding the tricky "white saviour" tag the Phantom has more recently attracted over his jungle adventures (more recent adventures have downplayed this aspect), though he's far less problematic than that other well-known jungle adventurer, Tarzan! Yes, he's the original superhero, having first appeared in 1936, three years before Superman.