Why Somalia is About to Split Into Three States 

Anything to blame it on colonialists though right?

@@JustAnotherAccount8 But they're not blaming it on colonialists. They're blaming it on the 3 rival clans

@@Mimas2115 1:11

well the drawn boarders is whre our problems began.@@JustAnotherAccount8

Lets just agree to recolonise Africa

somaliland is also in a civil war.

Somalia is more complex than you think,

@@lubu2960 Nope It’s stable

@@Helloer123 Thats a rather grim lookout for the future of the UK you drew there. ;p

This western channel is so biased bruv these things happen in somalia it is not a big deal, the next day you will see them sitting at the same table, thsi channel always hating on somalia

I think the problem was that Somalia never had a proper unifying time period. There used to be several city states and somali kingdoms spread throughout, but never one controlling all somali lands. Because most people lived nomadically and were not city dwellers. After colonization everything becomes a mess. Italians and brits causes mistrust betweeen clans, bans the somali system of goverment and impose their vile colonial rule. Now we have people who grew up in that degenerate system, and continues it broken legacy by working further on a western form of goverment inherited by colonialist that made it with bad intentions, nor is the system catered for somali society. Western style rule is not compatible with a clan system. In my opinion, this edited version of western rule needs to be abolished and western countries that reinforce this rule need to be expelled. Just like how the Sahel countries are currently expelling french and american soldiers, that are stationed there to destabilize the country and siphon out resources to their homelands. Then there must be either an unifying war or for the major clans to comrpomise and make amends. Because the fact is that system of goverment and the current situation is beneficial for foreigners that use trawls boats on the somali coast, dump nuclear waste in the nearby ocean and plant their military bases all over the country. A radical anti western solution is needed, just like the ICU in 2004. But unfortunately when that happened the US and other westerners swiftly invaded the country, wreaked havoc and reinstated their western ideologies. The worst enemy for the west is a country that is prosperous, but it's ideologies are not aligned with their own.

​@@Izmoa finally someone with same opinion. You're, Somalia was never a real thing and putting different tribes and clans together was a mistake. Power sharing will never happen since a lot Somalis are narcissistic.

@@notyourtypicalfarah7194 We decided to join each other, many people are missing the point, the primary issue was annexation of Somali land into Ethiopia and Kenya, the British pushed this through due to their relation with those countries. And then the soviet backed coup in the 60's, and the eventual downfall was the 70's war with Ethiopia when Soviets backed Ethiopia instead and saved them from defeat and permanent loss of territory through a massive airlift of military supplies worth $1 billion, the arrival of more than 12,000 Cuban soldiers and airmen and 1,500 Soviet advisors, led by General Vasily Petrov. Foreign intervention is a common theme with Ethiopia in the 16th century it was the Portuguese and in the 20th century the Cubans and Soviets.

@@notyourtypicalfarah7194 literally not what i said. The problem is the western form of rule is not compatible with somalis. I am against democracy because it is inherently made by gaalo for gaalo not for muslims or somalis. You even have the US flag on your profile picture when they have invade Somalia and countless other muslim countries. They also killed millions and stole wealth from the ummah.

@@kothar6159 to be honest foreign intervention is just a play on words, its usually armed foreign invasions in reality. Its like saying expat instead of immigrant to make it sound better. I agree with british being an issue. They divide the somalis along colonial borders.

This might be true that they have already split but many nations around the world do not recognize these nations as an independent country

bro theirs literally 14 different parties fight not including al-Shabaab Ethiopia Kenya uae and Qatar and the houthis its a mess ong

It only takes an honest Somali to know, there are only few people who are loyal to a flag or a nation. Everyone else is either tribalist or indifferent.

​​they will if it suits them. And recognition is a strange word, look at the USA with Taiwan... Even my country doesn't recognize Palestine but has a Palestinian ambassador.

@@gr8life12 bro every one their is nationalist and patriotic i remember i was their during the port deal every guy was ready to go fight for Somalia and not for tribes clearly this democracy thing doesn't work for countries like these we need to find a new way to rule multiple clans

That’s I thought, big oversight by TLDR

correct this person doesn't even know what he's reporting

​@@Planet_HunterTDLR is spreading propaganda lies a simple Google search or Wikipedia will clarify that . Somalia is not a multi ethnic or tribal country. It has clans but there is no clan war even. There is a political conflict between few individuals which most people are tired of

@mudaneyegbicadaan8860 wtf who asked

@@Planet_HunterTLDR is British asset propaganda

Most likely question is will the amharas revolt soon

@@lukewarm6369 Exactly you could argue things are worse in Ethiopia 2 genocides, I dont see Ethiopia staying United for long at this rate

They have their own problems

​@@sideclipz5053we have been killing each other for so long that we don't even recognize it anymore

Ethiopia is barely better than Somalia. They literally have a major genocide going on and just finished a war that killed over half a million people.

This western channel is so biased bruv these things happen in somalia it is not a big deal, the next day you will see them sitting at the same table, thsi channel always hating on somalia

Wrong

Somalia is sovereign nation.

@mudaneyegbicadaan8860 why do you guys oppose Somaliland? Just curious. Sool has representation in Somaliland parliament

​@@deeqahmed2291Aside from the fact that there are many people that don't want to be apart of Somaliland, the military killed innocents and started a civil war only to later collaborate with Ethiopia on selling land away

Somalia 🇸🇴 is not splitting up! Somalia is Not a multi ethnic multi multi-religious country like neighbouring countries.

@@theancientsancients1769 but it has ISIS, Alqaeda, etc. The regions are also declaring their independence, who did that in your neighboring country?? Somalia is not better in any shape or form, no matter how much you would like it to be.

​@@theancientsancients1769 Do you want to bet?

​@@theancientsancients1769sometimes ethnicity and religion isn't enough to hold a country together if the people feel a real difference. After all, Germany and Austria are not the same country, nor France and Wallonia, nor all the different Spanish-speaking countries in the America's.

@@bereketkassahun4353 Somaliand region is divided . With 2 of its largest regions joining the Somali federal government. Puntland 99 percent of people never ever would accept breaking away from Somalia . They are the most patriotic of Somalis it's where the pirates are from. They just don't like the current president. Nothing new Somalia has no IS. It has Al Shabab which largely got defeated So I don't know what you are talking about.

Somaliland and Puntland are the bits that have resources and stability ...and is not just desert

Somalia ha so many problems because it's divided and has tribal tensions it would be better for everyone if they leave each other.

@@davidioanhedges the only thing that puntland could actually benefit Somalia is the trade route, but since that trade route is being interrupted by Houthis, it doesn't matter so much now.

@@Mark-gd2ti agreed

​@@Helloer123stop blaming other countries for your failures

@mudaneyegbicadaan8860 u cant exist on u own like somaliland did. u either gets supported by putland or get fked

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Can you please explain the civil war problem? I'm European and we don't have a lot news about what happens in most African nation.

@@Meireles-ct4fy The youtube channel you're watching has videos all about the civil war problem.

You have to be incredibly stupid to believe he would risk a conflict with another nation just to draw attention from another conflict. It is for access to the sea.

The only entity that’s 100% ethnic Somalis is Somaliland; Puntland is 80% Somalis and 20% from Zanzibar and other Bantu groups; Southern Somalia- including Mogadishu- is 60% ethnic Somalis, while the rest are different Bantu groups, Barawanis, Bajunis , Banadirs ….and so on.

You have said a truth most Somali darood and hawiye avoid to mention all the time

65% is Somali 35 is the rest

somalia is not homogenous this is a lie thats spread somalia has 13 different languages and many different tribes

@@Abdulkgalies puntland is 100% Somali go spread your lies elsewhere gaal raac

It's not tribes it's clans . The is no clan conflict! I don't see a war going on based on that even. I see few corrupt foreign sponsored politicians at each other's throats

so when Garguurte slashed the constitution he wants to become a king because the Prime minister has no power while the states won't have a say.. this is recipe for doctorship

Bro, stop it.. blah.. Somalis have no idea what common sense is. Unity and national identity If you do not believe in the essence of Somalia, why do people not unite! For example, a person from Bosaso who comes to Hargeisa or Borami feels like a foreigner in the region. So the concept of Somaliness does not exist 😅

@@mjanaalechannel977 Not really Hargeisa and Borama has many foreigners and other Somali clans, there wouldn't be issues in urban areas, I have no personal experience in PL and Southern Somalia though.

My brother, I am talking about Somalia as a people who do not believe in each other, and there is no feeling of unity, and there is no feeling of patriotism among the people. If someone leaves his native city to go to another city then he becomes a stranger. He sees himself in a place belonging to the clans of another people . Like in another country 🤔

Cap

Not true.

If it’s genocide then they shouldn’t claim other Somalis land

@@Mrobot90000 You should watch Hargeisa holocaust and you will understand why they hate Somalia.

@@Mrobot90000 They don't. They remembered what your idol Siad Barre did to them. They only want what they have been seeking for.

To be fair, have you heard Somalis talk of other clans? They are basically racist against them.

What is the difference between ethnicity and clan exactly? Like, the Balkan slavs are basically all the same people, but they still think of themselves as completely different.

@@haydencrawford8552 Not sure if this applies in Africa, but generally the word 'Clan' denotes a closer knit group, often more familial in nature. It's more of a social type of thing, whereas ethnicity share a culture and ancestry, and so it's more of a biological type of thing. Then again, clan could mean something completely different to them.

@JustAnotherAccount8 yeah.... the thing is that once clans become established, they tend to become ethnicities naturally over time. Look at India, two people from villages within a day's walk with each other will have completely different languages and beliefs. Not to mention the Caste system that meant that priests weren't even allowed to SEE untouchables, let alone interact with them.

@@haydencrawford8552 True enough, guess they haven't had enough time to form an ethnicity.

Nope.

@@shafsteryellow cope

​@@shafsteryellowwell, it's clearly not working, is it?

​@@Wasserfeld. What's not working

They don't. It's just one leader called deni that is just trying to get more concessions

One day we will unite God willing they enjoy seeing Muslim divisions.

@@shafsteryellowyou wrong it’s almost 40 years and Mogadishu is still a shit hole 🕳️ no progress full of criminal activity and hunger leaders stealing money and food from the poor Puntland will concentrate on its own no more wasting time. As for Deni he respond for Puntland and we support his decision 100% there will never be 🇸🇴 unity because of Hawye mentality simply.

@@bonez8246 cunto cun luugo baasto

​@@bonez8246 Wouldn't puntland fall apart since only Marjarten controls the whole thing? You think Deni won't have problems with other Daroods that live there??

never happening

Bad idea, would lead to catastrophic war and not even all somalis agree so you could say its unethical

Hell nah 😂

Don't put us into this shit

they will never get a sea ethopia is failed country

Aidethiopia have their own civil war going on lol you don’t understand the Horn of Africa politics

Ethiopia are currently in a civil war committing genocides against themselves.

Somalia 🇸🇴 is not splitting up! Somalia is Not a multi ethnic multi multi-religious country like neighbouring countries. They are misleading their audience!

They have independence. They are independent of the state of Somalia as Somalia has no control over them. It's just not recognised which is different. If someone refuses to look at you it doesn't mean you don't exist

@@Jack_today Clearly you are not educated! Somalia 🇸🇴 is a Federal country! Federal states have many powers Independent of the federal government. That's whole point of federalism 😂 Biden can't tell California or Texas what to do . The Federal government has powers over certain things like foreign policy strategic assets

Somaliland was a country before failed state somalia😂

However they don't represent Somaliland so I guess the joke is on you 😂

They need to add AWdhal too then they is no somali land 😂😂

@@Ramdelfalcao2024 But unlike Awdal, SSC Khatumo has control of their territory, Somaliland still controls Awdal

@@user-zz4xu5wo2c I know bro they are out numbered and Hassan sheik he doesn’t want to help them to fight or give them statehood

​@@Ramdelfalcao2024 I agree, president Hassan is a spineless puppet of money incapable of even freeing small Al-Shabab areas, much less dealing with entire regions like Puntland or Somaliland

@@Ramdelfalcao2024 Why do you feel the need to speak for my people? why do you compare Awdal to Khatuumo? you dumbasses have been fighting none stop for the past 15 years whilst My people in Awdal have remained not only a part of Somaliland but even Ruled it under Dahir Riyale Kahin? We dont want to be part of you nor do we want to be a bullshit FMS is a failed state.

Exactly I called them out on this too big blunder

It depends on what you consider an ethnic group. The tribes that they’re referring to consider themselves their own ethnic groups under a larger Somali identity

@@fishconnoisseurthey are not tribes they r just clans, a majority of whom fall under broader bigger clans who r in some shape or way related.

@@JaredDudley24 It just goes to show that without any of the 'traditional' reasons to fight, we'll invent new ones. Even if basically everyone has the same ethnicity and religion, we'll find new ways to split ourselves into groups, just to have them fight each other.

Nope. Around 85% are ethnic Somalis

It's actually quite common all over. You have China and Japan and also Mongolia before ginkez khan united it and also the Arab world. They all fought because they Com from different clans and tribes.

@@ldahmy but you see those countries have seen sense in uniting...Somalia so far doomed

@@eldios831 so I don't disagree but again these are considered nomadic tribes or cattle herders in nature. And to unite tribes under one banner you usually find one tribe that has an overwhelming power relative to other ones and they simply submit to them. Somalia had no such luck.

@@ldahmy I don't dispute that....Somalia has to bite the head on the nail because disagreements and fighting will bring nothing other than stagnation....The leaders need to agree on a constitution that encompasses everyone...Democracy is very expensive and that sacrifice needs to be made

@@eldios831 easier said than done

They are one tribe but in different clans

@@muhidinabdulahi3553 no there four clans but all ethically the same

Wow. According to one ethnic map, Somalia is the most ethnically homogenous country in Africa. Which begs the question: Why is it the most failed state?

​@@daviddestefanis2989 Clan warfare, basically like medieval Ireland.

Yes. Ogaden in Ethiopia is ethnically Somali and Djibouti is Somalis sharing with Afars (Who also have a region in Ethiopia and the southern coastal part of Eritrea).

Wtf??​@@daviddestefanis2989

@@daviddestefanis2989 Clans and Islam

Things will change

I doubt Somaliland cares what International groups think of them. They shouldn't have been part of Somalia to begin with especially when Somalia's attempt getting rid of Somalilands population in the past.

Somalis did choose to merge into one state after independence

@@TheHajinator For the first time in their history.

@@TheHajinator The balkans also decided to merge into one state called yugoslavia... just because they merge, doesn't mean they were united.

@@JustAnotherAccount8 Did they choice, or were they forced? Yes, you are right.

@@JustAnotherAccount8 Nope. They forced to both due to serbia having the only real military and so to not be annexed by the russians.

Yes it was

That very loughable 😂 learn the history of Somalis better before you speak about it

@@wizhargeisa3338 : Oh Master, please tell me, when was Somalia (as in the internationally recognised borders) ever united??

@@bikkiikun There is Five parts of Somali territory were the Colony divide it and two Parts of that were liberated in june 1960 and they Formed what the world knows today as Somalia where you get this information like it was never Somalia recognized country make you look very dumb really 😅

@@bikkiikun lol superimposing western conditions of what constitute a nation is hilarious. You clearly don't know somali society how it operates, land rights, individual sovereignty or the laws that govern all somalis. The entire concept of 'nation states' is less than 150 years old 😂 Somali contiguous territories, jurisdiction, unified identity and more have existed well before that. Somali is a unambiguous ethnicity with somali lands being well established for millenia. There's a reason we don't speak Arabic, Italian or have different ethnic groups unlike all our neighbours

whats islamic madness

@@abdirahmanhassan1848 Well, youtube tends to remove comments that mention that sort of activity that was discussed in this video briefly. The not so good neighbor behavior. There was recently some of it manifesting in Russia too that was rather big news. Oh how I do hate the language restrictions that americans specially are so keen on.

I'm from there Puntland. Absolutely I'm with dude!

@@abdirahmanhassan1848 infidel always blame Islam

What is call puntland it not same issue on somaliland is't it is region inclusive somali italian atonomy.

Somalia stretches from Spain to Sweden, its a large country and has the right to split into many

@@abdulkadirosman2816 It was a star wars reference, not a comment on Somalia's ongoing national mitosis

@@abdulkadirosman2816it does not have to split tho, it brings no good. Don’t let these people that are promoting division outsmart you. They support it cause they know it’s bad and makes them all weak.

You can propose new topics for videos directly to them by a form they have, the link is in the description.

incorrect video. because somalis are one ethnic.

Exactly lool and Deni doesn't even have full MJ support let alone the people Puntland 😂 Just like Bihi thinking he can claim British borders and can subjugate the Gadabuursi, dhulbante and habr jeclo to habr awal rule 😂 It's just like HSM thinking he can dictate to Raxaweyn and Sheekhal when he's scared of Habr Gidr These guys are ALL self interested clowns whose PRIMARY victims and opponents are other subclans from their own clan but they try to use fear/oppression of other clans as an excuse to rule their own.

@@skp8748 I am Gadabuursi, kindly stop using my people to prove your bullshit points. My people right now are majority pro-Somaliland just cause we're against a port deal doesnt mean we want to rejoin a wartorn shithole occupied by foreign AU forces. Focus on your own people instead of always mentioning mine.

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This reeks of misinformation lmao.

To quote Kylo: MOOOAAAR!!

Hhh Why dude!!

You dont know history then, The region once controlled and native to Somalis is much much larger then this, And Somalis have enjoyed stability but havent for a while now

Yes we did buddy search up ajuuran had colonies in Mozambique And Madagascar Even Adal empire stretched majority of the horn you clearly don’t know Somali history 🤦‍♂️

Only good for their local development. To stay together will make Somalia great Nation.

Read a history book

@@user-fn5el2pp9x that was the aim in 1960s but look what it got us. we need stability in somali people it dont matter if its in 1,2,3,10 countries anymore.

As an isaaq I’m telling you to wake up. This division thing does not bring us any good and never will and never has. Playing the victim role will never make you succeed in life. Without peace none of these regions will ever progress. Don’t let these cadaan people that are promoting division outsmart us. They support it cause they know it’s bad and keeps us all weak. Which is their goal. WAKE UP!

Because its nonsense. Deni doesn't even have enough power in puntland to make that decision. And in somaliland 2/5ths of it have rejected independence and want to be federal states of Somalia. This video is complete lunacy. Somalia is one of the most ethnically homogeneous countries in the world

Bro wants war and discourse just so he can look at a new assembly of colours on a piece of cloth, crazy.

LoL at least we'll get new countries in Eu4 extended timeline

@@DenDave_ Lmao, who said anything about war? These countries are already independent, and theres nothing the mayor of Mogadishu can do about it. I support responsible self governance, not the imperial aspirations of one man.

@@Felix0587This’ll cause war and suffering it already has what he said pretty much sums of your attitude and the fact you can’t see that you may have made an insensitive comment is concerning why he callous to just look at some flags? (Ps their flags are kinda shut anyway so I wouldn’t be celebrating rn)

let me guess you support russia in ukraine too?

Puntland people don't like the federal gov't.

​@@et_matrixIf we didn't like doesn't mean we will split from somlia.

Delusional people keeping yourself attached to this destroyed country

Caqli badan malihid SOMALIA 🇸🇴 was state founded by ITALIAN COLONISTS Puntland was annexed by Italy to incorporate us into it's southern territories we have nothing do with South or north we used to be our own state who traded with china india Yemen oman and Zanzibar (during said baraqash rule)

Putlander? Just say you are Somali from puntland

Haiti is better?

There really isnt a President of Somalia since the last dictator Siad Barre died. Most Somalis call the current "President" the Mayor of Mogadishu because that is literally all he controls lol and to maintain control of that city he still needs 20k AU forces 🤣

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Imagine having to deal with internal state conflicts and politics, enemy neighbor interferences, extremists terrorists, Western (US/UK) and Arab (UAE) sabotage, all at the same time. Such a tough job, I feel sorry for him.

Somalia is one Country, with a lot of issues.

And it did not make them a functional country.

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😂 these people are lunatics

The problem is that those tribes might aswell be ethnic groups because they despise each other. Somaliland is mainly inhabited by 2 tribes Gadabuursi and Isaac, they both get along and the result is a stable and peacefull region that has had multiple free elections. Puntland is similar, all tribes there get along and function on a "everybody eats" model. The south is another story, might aswell be mad max.

@@agentopaque3776 puntland recently had skirmishes due to clan warfare and somaliland had a civil war that ended in somaliland retreating just last year somalia is a very confusing place nothing is as it seems

@@abdirahmanhassan1848 Somaliland's so called "civil war", as many from Somalia are calling it, is already over. The region that Somaliland supposedly lost has always been disputed and riddled with violence. Somaliland heartland is absolutly peaceful. Its funny watching you try to compare Somaliland to the clusterfuck that is South Somalia. Your civil war is hands down the worst and has been raging for the last 15 years. Both Somaliland and Puntland are leagues more stable than the central government that barely excercises control outside of the capitol and has many foreign troops within its lands.

@@agentopaque3776 Somaliland actually has 3 Isaaq,Harti,Gadabursi

What's Suzerain?

​​@seankellygaller6902 Game where you play the President of an unstable fictional country caught in the middle of Superpower Cold War politicking

@@Pilchowski01 sounds dope is it like irl nation thing?

such a niche comment but happy to see it here

@@seankellygaller6902 No, fictional universe, but with very clear real world parallels (the main campaign nation is heavily inspired by post-Kemal Turkey)

What's that got to do with anything

Temporarily leaving Somalia.

Can't dare? Who will stop them? They already have seceded temporarily until who knows when so why nobody stopped them?

@@XayaatAbdi324 no, puntland did not seceded but withdrew recognition from the federal govt which are two different things, Puntland leader can't dare to declare secession because the people in the region don't accept secession

@@mohamedabdukadir3271 The formal secession has to come with a vote from the people of Puntland then with that referendum Puntland government can declare independence. As for the people of Puntland they're tired from the drama and the instability in the south and I wouldn't be surprised if the people of Puntland vote for secession.

​@@XayaatAbdi324 beenta

@@shafsteryellow runta miyeey ka xanaajisay warya?

No where near ethiopias 5 way civil war killing millions

@@skp8748 what does that have to do with anything

The region that wants to break away, Somaliland, has maintained peace and stability for over 30 years yet the international community insists to "talks" with Somalia smh

​@@agentopaque3776 peace yet had a civil war and has entire regions saying they want to be their own federal state

most ppl from puntland dont support unification. its just political bait

🤣you sound so cringe

@@Atatoms You are weak

Exactly brother only Sharia can bring stability to our country not the corrupt constitution impose on us by Pagon Europeans and their agents. This Chanel is funded by the British government just like the BBC to spread propaganda and hatred. Book of Allah is the only solution to our problem.

That's true. Example I'm from Puntland and we hate Big Government like One Central Government!!

That not true. TDLF goverment action was the reason.

​@@Ilawaalo. It's one federal govt with states

Responding to this comment to boost it, does anyone know anything about this?

@@user-zz4xu5wo2c ur forgetting the usa was funding the icu's adverseries due to washington's fears a hardline islamist somalia could harbour taliban members

Puntland is somalia lmao... its one Governor that is upset that the elected ministers from his state didn't obstruct the federal govt and gain more concessions

​@@Valaamethat would be illegal and violation of Somali sovereignty

​@@shafsteryellow hawiye futo madoobe

why? 2/3 of it's territory is against secession, with 1/3 having already left. Eventually there'd just be 3 cities.

Gtfoh recognise north cyprus

That's on its way Insha Allah ❤🤍💚💯❤

You’re literally asking for us to be killed

Qandhiciley iga dheh majeerteen waaa diffrent ethic gaaladuna waa ogyihiin😂

sierra leone flag?

@@combinatious3508closest flag to it

Idiot talk

That's ethiopia

More ethenic Like bantu Arab banadiri Zoo sirlankan