Why Some Sherpas Say There Won’t Be Any Guides On Everest In 10 Years | Inside Everest 

Tahiti? African Safaris perhaps (there may be many issues with these?)? Fishermen? Arctic (research teams, locals, Eskimos)?, North Korea would be interesting but... difficult to show the truth. Great episode today, thank you. The human struggle is the most interesting.

Brilliant show. Thanks. MS Hans Hedtoft?? What would a colony need on Mars?? Nepal should charge $50 000 a ticket. Make the same money with less people or enforce sherpa use...then charge $100 000 a ticket. 50% non refundable deposit for booking. More money, less pollution and well paid Sherpas. ;)

A look at the trash on Everest.

Life in/on the DMZ between the Koreas. From soldiers and the everyday people who live next to it. (As someone who lives in Seoul, this is of great interest to everyone outside of Korea)

I would like to see K2 Mountain in Asia being covered. That is another mountain that is dangerous to climb as well. At least that is what I read. If you are done with mountains, I would like Business Insider to cover the national dog show. I don't see any animal news or videos related to Business Insider. It would be nice for a change. Like what goes on behind the scenes. How does one enter their dog. The rules involved. How are dogs selected.

Yes , these people are attention-seeking nonentities

Commercial climber. I did my first 8000er after doing 9 smaller expeditions.

Most Motivational speakers are overrated, they are just paid independent marketers.

Worst kind of people those.

Yeah, recently I've seen them pictures of the queues to get up there. I just thought they were all a bunch of losers, what does it feel like being in a queue to get up there. Surrounded by an ocean of mountains, all impressively massive, solitude and adventure in every direction...but, nah, not good enough, I want the one that everyone will know is the best, because it's not really about conquering something, being on an adventure and seeing something amazing in the world, it's about telling people you've done this stuff. Losers.

Typical BILLIONAIRE .

name of the hiker?

Didn't know this story before. As a Malaysian myself this is beyond embarassment.

@@DaVe-iSnOtHoMe.MaN.LemmingsWeB not sure if he's a billionaire, but definitely 100% brainless idiot

@@donbernie9346 Found him. Ravichandran Tharumalingam. apparently he's using Everest as his middle name on LinkedIn and running a company related to moutaineering. lol

Totally agree $4000 is insanely low for what they are doing, each climber should have to pay **at least** $4000 each to the sherpa leading their expedition.

​@@ed1658great question, I see a lot of incorrect figures that people made up from their own ideas of life in Nepal, so I did the research and the math, bc I'm also interested. So, in detail, this is the situation...ahem... the average yearly salary for Nepal in USD is around 7400, (in Nepal's rupees around 965,000.) Sherpas have a lower than average yearly salary even though they earn "a lot" per climb, each climb is well over a month long and climbing season is only 3 months per year. The average sherpa makes between $4000-5000 USD per year. The western born guides they work beside earn around $50,000usd total for those same climbs. Top sherpas only make around $10,000usd for the season, just under 1.5 times the Nepal average salary, despite being one of the most dangerous jobs on EARTH. For further clarity, the average yearly US salary is about 60,000. So for the top sherpas it's like making $85,000/year in the US. And for the average sherpa,it's living in the US making between $33,000 -41,000 a year. Sherpas work somewhere with a death rate of 1 in every 6 per climb, for tourists who are spending 10x their annual salary on a single vacation where the goal is to get a selfie taken up high.

​@ed1658 I wonder if the pay is up front? I see a lot of people blaming those to female.clients who died in avalanches for the deaths of their sherpas as if sherpas aren't the ones leading the clients. Do Sherpas lose their pay if they refuse to continue to the summit due to danger?

@@gibsonlk93 $4000 is about 2 years worth of salary in my country, depending on their economy it might not be that low.

yeah and your people dont have to climb 8 thousand metres above sea level , where avalanche happen every day , there's no actual path, landslides happen every hour and , once you make a path next day it will be covered with snow , @@uruloki2758

Tashi Delek 🙏 one question: what happened with this Sherpa Guide, he received support and help for to manage his life?

They really should pay them a bonus for every life they save

Obvious reason not to go. Expensive, cold, dangerous and deadly. In no way a flex. I don't wanna go that way. In bed with my cat please.

Nah, too many rich people nowadays

lol it wont. That 15k goes straight to Gov officails. If they actually used the permit money to pay sherpas there wouldn't be this problem.

This is for Nepal government. Not for sherpa.

In addition to the fee there should be a theoretical and practical test, plus some sort of license that proves you are an experienced climber

All stolen by government.

At least he was flat out honest, and modest about it, saying he carried 10 kilos, when the Sherpa carried 30. The vast majority of people who climb Everest won't admit this.

@@PhilAndersonOutside There are about 200 people who have climbed Everest without supplemental O2, and most likely less than a dozen who have done it without Sherpas and O2. Out of thousands!

​@@chek6303Nobody has climbed everest without a Sherpa, it's impossible

@@DrrnTW It's actually happened at least once: "Lars Olof Göran Kropp (11 December 1966 - 30 September 2002) was a Swedish adventurer and mountaineer, the first Scandinavian to climb Mount Everest without oxygen. He made a solo ascent of Mount Everest without bottled oxygen or Sherpa support on 23 May 1996, for which he travelled by bicycle, alone, from Sweden and part-way back."

Also these two: Reinhold Messner: “In 1978, he made the first solo ascent of Mt. Everest the first ascent …without supplemental oxygen,…” Jerzy Kukuczka also did it, (though not as popularly known as Messner)

And the porters too.

Maybe these experienced Sherpa's should form a type of union to demand higher fees. From what I understand ... it's Nepal's goverment leaders who are allowing this overcrowding condition. I doubt they'd allow something like that.

Technically the helmet backwards is at 1:19. Good catch though! At 3:30 the guy is finally wearing the helmet correctly. It's pretty funny how those types of people don't get any experience elsewhere such as the Alps, Rockies before attempting Everest.

@@philipthecow As someone from Nepal living in Rockies(Colorado) and avid climber of 14er, there is nothing in alps and Rockies that would equal those offered by Himalayas. the only place apart of Himalayas where one can practice is in Andes in south america

Well noticed!

@@sumitshresth There's plenty of stuff in the Rockies / Alps that would help prepare you for the Himalayas. Sure, Himalayan elevation can't be matched but there are plenty of technical climbs in snow in lower elevation mountain ranges. It's like biking before you get on a motorbike.

​@@philipthecow as usual being dismissive of the 'locals' , well, just because. Reminds me of the lady who assumed that hauling an 18kg backpack up and down the stairs of her apartment block in Canada was enough practise. Needless to say, shes one of the many bodies encased in ice up on the Everest.

CORRECTION: IT IS CALLED MOUNTAIN CHOMOLUNGMA

@@rainaflores779that’s the Tibetan name the Nepalese name is sagarmatha

I had that same phase lol. That plus caving\diving distasters

me too, still in it lol I wonder if theres a name for this obsession haha @@alexenaku

Went through a same phase

What could convince the Sherpas to do that? Literally, the climbers cannot live without the Sherpas!

My guide last year has climbed Everest 8 times and runs his own company taking people up. He was much cheaper than anything you'll find online. If you visit the Everest Region, don't book a guide beforehand - you can easily find a local guide in Lukla or Namche for a fraction of the price, and you know 100% of the money goes to them. Also - if you haven't been, I highly recommend it. It's such a special part of the world.

@@ghaznavidthat sounds like quite an expensive gamble 🤣

lol an expensive gamble is inexperienced guide and paying full price. @@DirtyDirkDiggler

It would be an expensive and long process but I totally agree. There’s way too much risk involved for them to be being payed what they are currently. I just don’t know how that could happen

Raising the price won’t change anything. People pay upwards of $200,000 U.S. to climb Everest but they’re paying it to western expedition companies, and they pay the Sherpa’s squat. It may eliminate a few hikers but that’s it. A wealthier hiker will soon take their place. They need to stop westerners from operating these businesses in Nepal and area and only allow Nepalese people to do it. People are literally and figuratively getting rich off the backs of the Sherpa people, except the Sherpa’s. Maybe tickets should only be available through a Sherpa, and no one else.

No

They don't need respect though. They need to be lifted out of poverty so they aren't forced to do an incredibly dangerous job for rich fucks who treat them as disposable.

⁠​⁠@@theagreen204and the sherpas could careless if irvine and malroy died

​@@theagreen204 The evidence indicates they most probably did make it and were on their way down when disaster struck.

In my opinion you saw one or two youtube documentaries and binged them over and over so many times you're even using words from the title of the documentary

@@idkgg9588 you care so much about a witful comeback that you defeated the purpose

Really interesting take! Have you ever considered they do it out of passion? By your logic all nascar drivers, and all surfers, and all F1 drivers, and all boxers, and all UFC fighters, and all sky divers, and all astronauts…etc are selfish. Some people just have passions, life goals, or simply they enjoy it. Sure some things are more dangerous than others, but everyone involved recognizes the risks and makes decisions based of that including the sherpas! I do alot of solo traveling, climbing, sky diving, surfing, hiking and it annoys me to hear comments like this. Not everyone wants to just have a 9-5 save up for a house, and save money so they can retire at 65. Some of us want to experience life brother and there is nothing wrong with that. I also work a 9-5 in finance but man do I feel more alive when I am doing these types of things. I dream of one day being able to climb Everest.

@@rmiguel23 Yes, of course there are inherent risks in life and it is up to each person to make the choice to partake in them. And passion? Yes, I can understand someone being passionate about something and those things, like the professions and sports you listed, can have some level of danger to them. That being said, there is a difference in between UFC fighers, F1 drivers and so on and climbing Mount Everest. First of all, the majority of what you listed are actual professions where, much like the sherpas, the people do it for their family and for livelihood as well as passion. Climbers of Mount Everest on the other hand pay hundreds of thousands of dollars and while I know it's their money to spend, still means they're putting themselves AND OTHERS at risk. To me that is the big difference; they put so many people at the risk of injury/death and ruin countless families in the process. Like you want become a professional boxer? Cool, go for it. In that scenario you're making the choice to put yourself at risk but not others so fine by me. With climbing you can literally be tethered to other people and if you fall or make a mistake because you're tired or inexperienced and shouldn't have been up there, boom, everyone goes down. On top of that, these sherpas are usually the sole provider for their household so with their death not only comes the emotionally ruinage of a family but sends them into financial hell. I realise cutting tours down or outlawing people to climb Everest won't help this situation; the government has to set up some other infrastructure for them to make money if they truly want to help out this portion of their population. I realise this comes across incredibly one-sided and ranty but I just have no respect for people that put other people's life in danger for their own selfish ego. I too work in an office environment but can gain happiness in other ways then killing myself and others on a mountain. I truly do not care if I "annoyed" you with my comment and I maintain it's selfish.

@@hckyroxs8019 You hit it right on the head, sounds incredibly ranty! Sometimes people need to live and let live! They are not putting the Sherpas at risk, they are paying for a package, the Sherpas likewise sought employment and or are running their own tours. No one is putting anyone at risk, everyone is a consenting adult making the decisions they think are best for themselves. Ironically your point takes away this form of lively hood for the sherpas because some person from a first world country thinks they know whats best for the Sherpas😂 Your breakdown about the risks are incredibly ignorant, the Everest death rate is about 1% which is so incredibly low for whats being done! You know what also has a high death rate? Deep sea fishing or how about aircraft pilots! Should we ban those too? Its a little selfish for someone to want to eat king crab or tuna right? Should settle for chicken or beef! Or use a helicopter or jet! Its all just so silly, lets just let people live their lives how they want to live it and mind our business! Thats all! To each their own I guess!

@@rmiguel23I don’t think you get it. If you have high ambitions and put them first on number one, you shouldn’t be married and have kids. Stay single. Climb the Everest then. But pay the Sherpa’s extra money as they put their life in danger for their family as that is the only job that earns enough for them. Meanwhile rich people wanna climb the Everest climb the Everest for their own gain. Not for family. F1 drivers, boxers etc. Are all power and money hungry, those men also shouldn’t be married or have kids. Very selfish to do so, knowing you might die.

Agree. The sherpas guide, advise and carry the weight - so not so much to brag about in comparison. The Goddess mother of the world, the holy mountain is desecrated by dead bodies and garbage - the authorities actually had to enforce a deposit system to stop the sh*t and litter being tossed. Local water sources have been pollututed. A true hero puts in more for others than he takes away for himself.

They were doing this forever their bodies have evolved living in this environment!

Or even 2!!!

Thats a good one.

Requiring them to climb K2 first will remove 90% of these hobby-mountaineers from the Everest roster

@@thekenthouse6428 Removing them by killing them. Not sure if its the best solution. Surely worth of consideration.

K2 is much harder to climb than Mt Everest...@@thekenthouse6428

Agreed, why not just buy a load sports car to stroke your ego instead like everyone else 😅 safer and more fun imo

not all of them are rich. Many are also just enthusiasts of climbing and have to get sponsors or work for multiple years while living from as little as possible to be able to pay for these expeditions.

@@MilionarskySvet People form some crazy opinions with no research. They repeat what they hear in a video lol

"Those guys", people are always deflecting action towards others. How about YOU donate some money. Too many virtue signalers these days.

​@@FengG0Donate to who for what? Would you like to donate some money to me so I can live out my dreams?

Typical rich snob behaviour lol, doesn't matter the race it's same elitist behaviour everywhere

More likely, they assumed which organization, union or company they were with, but yeah, you're probably not too far off.

Id like to see the film if you remember the name of it.

@firstbloood1 untrue. I know some rich people. Some are arrogant, some are no different than 90% of the pop in terms of attitude. My neighbor, a plumber living in the edges of town partied with plenty of Hollywood stars when he did work in Malibu, and many of them were regular people (not all of them obv)

Sadly, from all the videos online it's obvious that they don't see Sherpas as Human beings..

For the country that they’re in, they get paid plenty. And being a Sherpa is a noble job to have. Not sure where you’re coming up with your conclusions.

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stupidest thing i've read this week. and i see a lot of dumb shit on the internet. do better, will.@@willbart1236

@@willbart1236did you watch the video? They only get a small cut he literally says “it’s really hard” when talking about money and making a living as a guide

​@@willbart1236 Lol, did you watch the video? The guides only get one to two climbs *a year.* which means that they earn less than minimum wage if you divide the money over the entire year.

I agree with you. But sometimes a media coverage can ruin a person's life. So maybe it's a blessing for him.

I’m 😊😊

He is a hero and an absolute champion. All sherpa are treasures.

Absolutely agreed. I don't see why people in the west (not limited to the west actually) are so infatuated with the idea of climbing the mt Everest, when in reality there's a good group of people who do this yearly for the SAKE of the people who want to claim that title. Sherpas deserve all the respect. Mount Everest deserves peace from the abuse it undergoes too. The mountain is sacred and too many people with their personal desires try to conquer it. Above all, I would like to see sherpas being kept safe, like Wangchu said, too many sherpas have lost their lives and the only reason he returns is because there's still people who want to conquer the mountain that he feels responsible for. I recently saw a post in a Nepali facebook group of a mother who lost her son (12 years, I think illness) and they had planned to take on mount Everest with the family, which she still wanted to do as a commemoration. Although the thought may be well-intended, I cannot fathom why you would do such a thing with such young children, personally. And after losing a child, why risk your own life? Maybe go to base camp and just appreciate the mountain's grace from below. It may suffice. Wangchhu said he would not think of sending his children up there -- the risk is real. Why do people not hear it from those who've seen it all. Wish sherpa voices would be highlighted more in this case.

Maybe you could write a book with him ?????

Yea they need a union.

Plus the rich people who can still afford it will appreciate that it’s even more exclusive than before. Which is a crappy reason but important for someone like that.

I was thinking the same. Cull the crowd with dramatic fee increase

But then the average REAL climber, would never be able to

true but it's still over 100k which sadly makes it out of reach financially for the normal person

Ilahi Rabbi.. Watisi kawara mu ruma ta ede.. di Made kai .. Makanya sholat lah. Mesjid Al Furqan.

​@rainaflores779 no, it's Sagarmatha

​@@rainaflores779 why do you keep referring to it by it's Tibetan name instead of its Nepalese name? Are you Chinese?

@@conor1821Chomolungma is the local name and they should have kept it that way because it was named Sagarmatha only after its height was known and Everest isn’t even a local name. This is also disrespect to Sherpas who live near that mountain.

@@prabint7487 ah I thought Sagarmatha was just the commonly accepted Nepalese name for the mountain and chomolungma was the Tibetan name for it.

@@rainaflores779 Sounds like a disease

Absolutely agree. The ladies are quite inexpensive

@@TheMerryPrangster can u please be civil dude.

News flash: 3rd world countries almost never actually have "amazing" people. That's why they're 3rd world countries. Unless you consider poor, uneducated, and criminally minded people amazing. If Nepalese are amazing then people such as Americans would be godlike.

​​​@@TheMerryPrangster so your's mother too

@@TheMerryPrangster You Indians are everywhere .

That is true of the outsider and ignorance people.

Sherpas do all the hard work. Most people who climb Everest nowadays are just rich hobbyists, they wouldn’t have a chance of making it without the sherpas.

and you didnt know that?

No one is putting a gun to the sherpas heads to force them to work as porters and guides. The have free will to choose it or not. By Nepali standards they make more than a years average salary from guiding on Everest. Nothing disgusting about it. Many are able to retire early and put their family through schooling. Higher risk in mining and building in Nepal.

Yes, porters carry all stuff and two guides per client is the norm. For even cheap climb. Sherpa not to happy when you don't use their services.

All climbers should should take a refresher. no matter what level. No shame in that.

@freedonuts5600 I get your point, but if you're an experienced climber you should be going there with the confidence that you know you'll go up and probably don't need it. A refresher should be there if you haven't mountaineered in a while

Refresher, sure. They were also there to acclimatize to the low oxygen levels. But did you see how some of those climbers were climbing? As though this is the first hike, let alone mountain ascent that they've ever done.@@freedonuts5600

@@patrickwilliamson29 You might be an experienced climber but climbing a 85 degree rockface at 6000 m is different from climbing the same rockface aboe 8000m when your body is not getting oxygen and there are whiteout conditions. The point of base camp is to get your body to acclimatize to high altitude and the best way to do that is to actually go through the climbing actions while you wait to acclimatize. No one should just arrive at base camp and setoff. Thats how people die and rescuers trying to save them die.

Agreed. It’s a bunch of rich idiots who want to check it off their bucket list

If you don't respect the Sherpa, you don't respect the mountain. And that leads to disaster. It's like when people don't listen to fishermen or life guards regarding the sea.

Are you talking about the Sherpa who got killed going back to look for a relative Sherpa with the trapped Korean climbers?

Sherpas don’t live and work in Pakistan thus they were not Sherpa.

There are porters on K2, but they are generally Pakistani, not Sherpas, who are a Tibetan/Nepali ethnic group.

Let's be a bit accurate here: noone can "force" anyone to climb back up.

That's good words put together

Shoutout to Kami Rita Sherpa, who summited Everest 28 times (as of now)!@@emffulongkumer4504

Smart and true.

Sh’amen

Well said

Unsung heroes. Not even shown once in the video

Icefall doctors are also Sherpa though

lmao literally cool as hell (pun intended)

​@@sendoh7xhuh? It wasn't shown persay but it _was_ mentioned at around 8:43.

@@TheINFJChannel as I said, not shown, only mentioned once. Also this is my 1st time hearing about this

You misunderstood dingus. 🤦 They said that the GUIDES all have to be experienced mountaineers, not the clients paying to summit. And there were a MILLION context clues around that section making that about as explicit as it gets. Is English a second language for you or something??? O_o Because you're kinda struggle busing. 🤷 (As well as the 61 and counting people that also seem to have skipped English class.)

@@Cooe. The video does refer to mountaineers needing experience and then refers to guides, making it clear that guides refers to the Sherpas. The words they used are guides only work with experienced high-altitude mountaineers, a requirement of the Nepalese government. They do not say that guides have to be experienced high-altitude mountaineers.

@@Cooe. What's with the name calling? Why are you being mean? What's with "second language" condescending question? Did you have a bad child upbringing? (I'm being like you with your questions; did you see that?). So I'll continue to be like you so you can understand your TONE and APPROACH. Did you have a bad upbringing because you seem angry, holding all this pent up negativity for no reason. Are you in a bad place emotionally right now? Because your entire paragraph seems like an angry teenager that never got his way and so you have this armchair superior self righteous attitude. So take a good look in the mirror and ask yourself, why was I so explosive in my reply to someone who had a legitimate question about a documentary that had nothing to do with me as a person. Think about that...............

I wonder how the Chinese government verify you've climbed a 7000/8000 peak before? 😄

@@justadude8369 I'm not too sure about this but I believe that whenever you summit or climb a mountain of such height, it's recorded in the local govt. Your name is written down to track and trace you, also in case when you go missing and the likes, they can trace who went up the mountain and when. But not sure how all this is communicated to other govts! maybe you receive some paper yourself as proof as well. idk

meh,they used sherpas just like climbers,sticking cameras on them,paying them in pennies

There are two Sherpa. Usually. Plus an army of porters. These two Sherpa get a lot of cash, bonuses etc. I say over 5000 usd if client goes to the top. They are not underpaid at all. And this is for cheap climb 45k. For 100k climb they maybe make 10k each.

​​@@tomk3732aha....they are not underpayed.....??🤨🤥🤥 Would you climb and risk your life for this, if you had a family behind?

@@irisgallati Sure, I climb and I even pay for it.... getting someone else to pay? Wonderful. Oh, in case you are wondering, on one of my trips I had spare days after a summit. I could have do some porting - moving stuff for people. Local porters threatened me with a knife... So don't t think these guys will give up their jobs anytime soon ;)

@@tomk3732I have been reading and watching plenty of mountaineering stuff and I was also wondering this underpayment thing. I think it’s kind of need to make them to look like victims even though low salaries are normally in local companies and if you are employed by a good Western company you are paid well for high quality guidance.

they are not underpaid, they make huge money for the region they live in. it would be the equivalent of 6 figures and only having to work seasonally. @@irisgallati

All they have to do is refuse to work for less.

They are super well paid. They are richest people in their village. There is zero chance this is about to change as 95% of people cannot do it without hand holding.

All market driven. They could ask more.

@@tomk3732 super well paid? I doubt it. even people who collect garbage in the west are paid better. and saying richest in their village is like saying YOU are the smartest in your family lol doesnt say much eh tommy boy

The sherpas know exactly what they're doing. They set the price themselves. If they can raise the price and earn a better income, they would have already done so.

That's quite rad awesome cool

Close to none

We will know in the coming years. If Nepal doesn't pay them what they are owed(multiple times what they are paid now) then as the current sherpas say, there won't be any. And with no sherpas there will be no summits, and with no sherpas there will be a huge tourism decline. Nepal is shooting itself in the foot with its current greed.

@@lemonnade5974 it doesn't matter who they hire, sherpas are literally the most vital part of the entire system. If they aren't getting paid for their work, then there's little reason to do it unless they love it. All I'm saying is that it's ridiculous that it costs so much to hire them, but none of the money goes to them. And it's even more ridiculous since they have a low cost of living and still struggle. Like what percentage do they get paid? Because it's not enough.

@@lemonnade5974 sherpas can do 2 or 3 times as much as most people. There aren't many groups of people in the world who could do anything like them. Anyone else out there would need significantly more people and people who go to work there will be way way more expensive. The only point I'm trying to make is that they should be paid at least enough to be out of poverty and that it's ridiculous. There's no argument here.

there's people that climb harder, more technical peaks that sherpas wouldn't even be able to do let alone jug fixed line

There is a documentary that you can see on youtube called 'SHERPAS · True Heroes of Mount Everest · Documentary'. It's very interesting.

It's actually not that hard. 2-3 years of training and you'll do same. I'm not sherpa, not even training much, but still capable to gracefully hike on 4500-ish with 30 kilo backpack.

If it’s not that hard why do all of the climbers need sherpas help to carry all their shit 😂

@@lol32scbw 30 kilo? Thats it? I do 10000 jumping jacks wearing 80 kilo vest before breakfast just to warm up my muscles. Its very easy, im suprised you struggle with 30

@@Dempig No kidding. 30 kilo is my normal. 33-35 is when it becomes hard (and my backpack starts squeaking in a dying manner). Couple of years ago it was like 25 as normal and 30 as very-very hard. When I started backpacking it was 15/20. It's all about adaptation to body tension and obtaining balance to do only necessary movement under heavy load. It's more technical then you think. Grace is actually means good technique. I can give some advices. First, backpack belt should be lower and straps more loose. Second your poles must be shorter to reduce unneeded shoulders movements. For my 185cm it's about 115cm (on moderate steep terrain). I actually never set my poles above 120cm. Poles are never far ahead of your toes. You're pushing forward by poles, not hanging on them.

@@juliapuertas6769 when you have a possibility not to carry shit at all it's superhard to carry even a small amounts of it. Pretty understandable. But you can see russian expeditions carrying all the shit on their own because they always haven't enough money.

Yeah it's a man are you surprised

Sherpa will never move a finger unless paid for it. If only experienced climbers were allowed sherpa would have no job.

@@tomk3732that’s a bit unfair and racist.

The solution to the first is to insist anyone who attempts Everest has first climbed a 7,000m mountain. This will give them experience, and also bring more $$$ to Nepal (presuming the climber/tourist attempts the 7,000m peak in Nepal). This could be done in a single season if timed right, plus help with acclimatization, or it could be done in back-to-back years just as easily. This would also increase the safety for everyone. Most modern paying climbers are wealthy enough to not blink at the cost of this.

@@PhilAndersonOutside They did that in China - but they want 8000m mountain. And they saw decrease in traffic as it is hard to do in single season. Pretty much impossible. As to your 7000er - yeah its sort of possible - I assume many people doing Everest do say Mera peak or Island or Lobuche as acclimatization step. It gives them zero extra experience or next to zero. Chinese idea is what is needed. But all 8000ers are cheaper than Everest - idea is if you fail you try expensive Everest again. So more $$$$ for Nepal.

​@@tomk3732 so stay in your country, sit in your country never see about our mt.Everest.. you don't have any rights to talk about Nepal mount everest

CORRECTION: IT IS CALLED MOUNTAIN CHOMOLUNGMA

Yes it's a joke. People hike like Mera peak 😂

I was under the impression that it was more about deterring people who aren't actually mountaineers and are doing just Everest as a one-off for bragging rights

@@ss-ds2dn Nothing much is done as you say - in fact opposite - Nepal wants total beginners as they are likely to fail and will try again --- more $$$$ Its all about $$$$.

@@tomk3732 yikes. Sounds like the sherpas sending their kids to school is the best way to break the cycle

They are. Best paid job in Nepal.

Are you enjoying Krakauer's book? Into Thin Air is on my bucket-list to read after watching the 2015 'Everest' film, which I thought was excellent and a sobering take on the 1996 climb disaster. As a visual medium, the film can only pack so much into its runtime, of course.

@@beeman2075 I’m about halfway through and yes it’s been very enjoyable! He has a very engaging prose and writing style. I’m usually not a non-fiction reader but his stuff is as intriguing as fiction.

@@sigh7310 "No big deal Harold, much ado about nothing!"

Thank you internet stranger

@@sigh7310 Thanks for your feedback on Krakauer's writing style, and good to hear he has an engaging writing style.

They have an overabundance of hubris, what could possibly go wrong at 8,500 meters. Maybe that rich helicopter guy can hire 4 Sherpas and they can carry him up the mountain in a palanquin. The girl gives off social media influencer vibes.

I believe it’s a pretty popular option mostly done so by tourists who do not wish to even summit.

yeah, alot of people who go don't even know fundamental aid climbing skills like jugging, on the easiest terrain for jugging too!

Going to camp in helis isn’t bad. Just ask Nimsdae

@on3232 funny part is he made so much money leeching off of the achievements with all the sponsors, documentaries, businesses he has made from that one documentary where he now owns a helicopter with his name written all over it, small planes/gliders going around the himalaya, a skydiving company for himalayan skydiving.. seems like more of an entrepreneur than an actual 'mountaineer'

That Sherpa should be a motivational speaker, not any of these wealthy status seekers

precisely!🙂

Thanks for watching!

You haven't seen the video of the lady scream about her dead friends sliding down the mountain

Facts. If there is money to be made, there will always be a market for anything.

​@@rainsfall2494doesn't matter, that happens all the time. Some people just need to learn the hard way.

Correct unless Nepal develops and raises the income levels of its common people to a level where it is too expensive for most hikers to hire them.

​@@johnl.7754 There will always be rich people just like the poor people.

One has 29 times Kami Rita

But what about the supply?

Crazy - they learn the 1+1 of mountaineering on their way to everest :D