@@Panzermeister36 i mean, is a stick figure, with glasses, anybody can do a stick figure with glasses, so, no, it really isn't, and because you don't have a lot of details about the other character, which is a stickman, any detail is going to be considered as a different character
A Korean person here; South Korean citizens actually protested the censorship of Google Maps (mainly due to the fact that they could not play pokemon go, no joke) and the law was pretty close to making an exception for Google. However, those giants at Kakao and Naver lobbied the crap out of the government, and it is still censored.
@@doctorjustice What difference does it make where the servers are if the content is accessible worldwide? Sure, if things escalate into full war, the locally installed servers could be shut to make sure the enemy doesn't have access to the content, but wouldn't the enemy have used e.g. Naver maps to update their own maps beforehand? What kind of military would use any foreign civilian map app on smartphones during a full war, instead of preparing maps of their own beforehand?
@@enginerd80 you realise many many countries have laws specifically for keeping certain data in the country itself? Not to mention Google is avoiding paying taxes on said data/servers
UPDATE: Seems like Google finally got proper map data of South Korea. It now looks no different than other places. Very cool. ------------ Since a few of you asked: - Why is Apple Maps not censored? Apple Maps uses all kinds of data sources, including OpenStreetMap, which features user-collected map data. Thousands of people collecting location data can't be easily stopped from doing so, unlike huge companies like Google. Because of that grassroots approach, OSM data can't really be effectively censored. I wanted to put all that info about OSM into the video too, but you see how long it got already, so I scrapped that part. - How can there be Google Street View in South Korea? Because collecting images for Street View is fundamentally different from collecting map data. You might need coordinates for both, but I assume the images from Street View do not count as map material in the definition of the Spatial Data Industry Promotion Act, so there's no legal ground for prohibiting Google Street View in South Korea.
Actually Apple Maps are worse than google here in Korea. They 'try' to give you driving and walking directions, but instead get you lost and even put you on the wrong side of town. At least Google Maps give you the correct public transit info. But really just use Kakao and Naver, they give really accurate traffic information, they will tell you the exact time buses and metros arrive, will let you hail and pay a taxi on the map, and people can just message you with their app to pinpoint their exact location. I wish Apple and Google maps worked as well in the US as Naver and Kakao work in Korea. In conclusion, I'd use Kakao and Naver in Korea even if Google/Apple had accurate data, because they are superior products. Also, Waze works pretty well in Korea too.
@@MichaelSidneyTimpson wait, are you sure that still happens? Did it even happen to you? A lot of people shame apple for Apple Maps getting people lost. But that was more than 5 years ago, it works very well for me now. I don't live in the US
@@RodrigoFerreira-bs6hd It's very hit or miss here, in some parts around military bases you're stuck zoomed way out so you can't actually see where the hell you are.
"homogeneous" is pronounced "ho-mo-JEE-nee-us" (5 syllables), not "ho-MO-ge-nous" (4 syllables). (Don't feel bad. This is a common mistake derived from the verb form of the word, "ho-MO-ge-nize".)
Fun fact about South Korea: A lot of infrastructure was constructed with the idea that they can also serve to slow down a North Korean invasion, with some major highways equipped with anti-tank obstacles above the road that can be blown up and made to collapse onto the road, and some bridges designed with specific spots where explosives can be placed to destroy the bridge. Although I think if NK did invade, their soldiers would defect upon seeing how much nicer it is down here lol
@@lachychops2 its actually quite common most bridges over the rhine here in germany are made like that, we also have tons of special obstacels all around the country to blow up roads, tunnels etc...
They have those in NK too, they also have certain bridges where there are these big blocks that are stacked on either side of the road, with wooden beams wedged under them so that they remain balanced. If the road needs to be blocked to advancing tanks, you destroy the wedges which disturbs and dislodges the unsteady blocks and they fall into the road. Still not as cool as dropping a whole overpass though!
The point is that the paper map will never update. You'll have an increasingly outdated and eventually obsolete map. That's why people used to buy a new Atlas every so often, because information changes. It also can't give directions, provide traffic information, business hours, or photos. A paper map also won't have as much details, such as side streets, addresses, etc.
@@bobsondugnutt9914 That usually takes decades to be outdated, and it wouldn't be off by a lot unless some major disaster happened that dramatically changed the landscape of a country/continent.
I think China may have stopped shifting Google Maps unless I am mistaken. Case in point: I've been going to Shanghai for years and it has always been super-annoying to use shifted maps to locate anything (to the extent I'd shift back and forth between Google's and DiDi's maps to get an accurate idea where I actually was). Last December though, lo and behold- the Google Maps suddenly were showing my correct location. Maybe I just got lucky?
ive been trying to convince my chinese partner that something was wrong with google maps in korea for weeks and thought something seemed off about it for years now but could never quite tell what it was or if i was going crazy thanks!
Alternative theory as to why Bing Maps has more detailed maps - Microsoft and Samsung have a partnership (which is why Microsoft apps have been pre-installed on Samsung phones in recent years). Samsung's own apps may rely on Bing's data rather than Google's.
@@travcollier Android is open source. While initially started by Google, Samsung, Microsoft, and a bunch of other companies and independent developers have contributed to Android.
Anyways... why is it a problem to buy a printed map in a local store and navigate by that. People did this for centuries when the internet was not exist.
@@tovarishchfeixiao there's nothing *inherently* wrong with that, but here's a few anyway: a paper map doesn't have a search engine, nor can it give you directions, it generates waste, and it costs money. It's not like there aren't good reasons why digital maps made paper ones obsolete _very_ quickly. You seem to have completely missed the point for the sake of making an "ok, boomer"-worthy petty complaint.
Guys! I'm so moved as a Korean right now. Google Maps in Korea has been updated! I can recognize the shape of the building, and I can recognize the road number and subway line! However, road information and navigation are not working, but it's still good that the map has been updated.
As a Korean American, I love that valley girl skit. I cannot say that I am surprised by South Korea's protectionism monopoly. It all comes down to how the South Korean modern economy was developed especially when these tech giants essentially dominate the South Korean market and contribute to South Korea's lion share of the GDP.
Did google forgot they are still in war with north korea? Their entire infrastructure is design in case of Urban invasion, which is pain in the ass for a lot of architect
@@Dimention11th Nah, it is. Its not a peace treaty, just declaration of cooperation for peace treaty. Which is big different. Y'know NK blew that liaison building or smth up right?
@@Dimention11th Second paragraph, "...agreed to cooperate on officially ending the Korean War..." They haven't ended it yet, only agreed to try to end it.
SK: you can't have accurate maps in the Republic of Korea Google: nooooooo you can't just take away the free dissemination of information nooooooooooooooooooo NK: you're banned here Google: We know
The low quality resolution of some maps in some countries is INFURIATING for architecture students. Sometimes we get precedents to analyse from abroad and I remember how annoying it was using google maps to scope out Bibliotheca Alexandrina in Egypt. Only spot photos from street level and blurry af. Found drawings online thank Christ but if I hadn’t I would have been fucked trying to make sense of it from Google maps 😂
The Republic of Korea is a free democratic country, but it has no choice but to censor it for security because of the close war with North Korea. The South Korean government asked Google to identify military facilities. However, Google turned down the offer as an excuse for its right to know. Also, Google has asked for more accurate guidance from the Korean government, and Korea is a warring country, and cannot take accurate maps abroad. However, if you use Korea's Kakao Map and Naver Map, you can know exactly. (Google is not even covering satellite images of U.S. Forces Korea.) [Koreans are also aware of this. ] 대한민국은 자유민주주의 국가이지만, 가까이 있는 북한과 전쟁 때문에 보안을 위해서 검열을 할 수 밖에 없다. 한국정부는 군사시설을 가려달려고 구글에 요청했다. 하지만, 구글은 알 권리를 위한다는 변명으로 거절했다. 또한, 구글은 한국정부에 더 정확한 지도를 요구 했으며, 한국은 전쟁 중인 국가로서, 정확한 지도를 해외로 반출할 수 없다. 하지만, 한국의 카카오지도와 네이버지도 등을 이용한다면 정확히 알 수 있다. (구글은 심지어 주한미군부대 위성사진도 가리지 않고 있다.) [ 이 사실을 한국인들도 역시 알고 있다. ]
Funnily enough, Apple Maps seems to have a dynamic map in South Korea with full walking and driving directions, yet doesn’t censor its satellite images. Hmm.
@@prometheus7387 I'm not sure but I THINK it might be because some map companies put fake locations on their maps so they can tell if another company is illegally copying them by also having those fake locations that they wouldn't have if they actually did their own surveys. If Google used user generated map data, there would be no way to have those fake places, and anyone could copy google maps
lived in korea for years and still go on travel there regularly, always used google maps, never had any issue finding anything or getting anywhere. its really not as bad as this video makes you want to believe.
Having walked in circles through Seoul to find our AirBnB this is too real. Bizarrely, directions for the train network are still as reliable as Tokyo. Somehow, our colleagues with a Chinese app were also able to find better restaurants than we could in Japanese or English.
I was living near Busan when that game was released. It was nuts, busses of travelers were filled to go to those small northeast villages when it was discovered the game works there. Local businesses were very happy lol.
They totally could. Only, the resulting map would lack lots of details. Plus, it's illegal, and Google wouldn't want trouble with the South Korean government.
@@apeami8953 I'm guessing they have no presence in South Korea and don't care about pissing off the S. Korean government, whereas Google would like to keep a friendly relationship.
I just revisited this video, and I find it quite entertaining! This video provides not only some comedic skits (the speech at 4:39, the "forest" at 6:53, and the self-conversation at 7:14), but an informative look into the digital mapping of Korea. After all, as you said at 4:08, it is quite odd that a North Korean labor camp would be easier to access via Google Maps than someone's hotel in Seoul! Thanks for the video!
In Korea,some important secret places like military forts are usually censored.If you want to see these secret places,just use Google map or Google earth.
On the one hand: That seems incredibly obtuse on South Korea's side and there HAS to be some form of compromise that is better for everyone. On the other hand I love watching Google get stuffed because of all the data harvesting and selling they do on a daily basis. I'm torn lol
@@BrakeCoach well you could just send someone to go scout, plus I bet China would just have its own photos. Like it wouldn't be hard to get around the problem if you were planning a war.
They should because it's freakin' stupid the satellite photos are available anyone can make a map from them..... it's not a secret and there's no benefit to south korea by denying map companies images and data... they can't control the satellites and there are no secrets...
I'm my experience visiting South Korea a few times, Naver Maps is usually the best option! Also side note, Uber is pretty bad over there. Kakao T is much better than Uber and does pretty much the same thing just cheaper and quicker.
"When showing South Korean Military Bases-" *shows USAF Osan Air Base* Edit: A bit late, but South Korea adopted vector maps like the rest of the world.
@@CBRN-115 It shows all maps of bases like the entirety of South Korea. The exception is the Google Earth Pro application, where South Korea is displayed with the same quality as anywhere else; high quality. This means bases like Camp Humphreys are in high-definition.
I live in South Korea and I still use Google Maps out of habit. My first year there it was the only available map in English since I had no idea about Bing Map being a thing. Now Kakao and Naver have an English version but my first reflex is still to open google maps. And it's not that bad, I mean yes they don't give you directions , but they tell you where is the place you want to go and where you actually are and you can see your position at any time thanks to your GPS .So really it's no bother at all, I don't need an app to know where I'm supposed to turn right I can perfectly see this by myself on the map.
Korean domestic giants were slain before, mostly in the automotive sector. In a way, regulating the foreign competition strongly has fostered growth in national companies that care more for their users at home rather than emerging markets. Makes competition extremely fierce though, as all market share is eaten so fast and so early.
I'd be lying if I didn't admit to clicking on this video thinking it was CPGGray and then being confused when I heard someone else's voice. I don't know if the art style was intentionally similar so that it would get people like me to click on his videos,, but Tapakapa's content seems to be pretty good nonetheless.
In case someone is wondering how to get around seoul with actual directions - kakao maps. It's a life saver. Edit: got to the part of the video talking about the language issues of kakao maps. They're not that bad, but knowing the korean alphabet will be a major help, especially in cities outside of Seoul. Luckily hangeul isn't hard and can be learned pretty quickly.
If you think (as the comment around 06:30 implies) that Google has the best data you have never used OpenStreetMap. Google might be nicer to find certain things but if you need an accurate map to walk or cycle anywhere it is close to useful compared to OSM.
Yeah I first was confused about this. I first thought "Oh, he meant BLANK paper (with nothing on it), or something." Then I realised that I might be one of the very few that use google maps like a paper map... Not gonna lie, ever since I bought my first smartphone at the beggining of the year, traveling in a new city got a bit easier :p. *Cracks open a Monster Ultra* *Siiiippps Haaaaa* "Yep, paper maps. Those were the days."
Seeing how many skills I have that aren't known by millennials (changing electrical plugs/tyres/lighting fires/not being scared of animals/being able to eat offal/and many, many more things) I reckon paper map reading may well be lost to the general public in a few years. I wish we'd had smartphones!
Why Bing has accurate map data? My educated guess - they run the South Korean part of their map service from South Korea (which is why that map takes ages to load outside of South Korea) Because Microsoft has more experience respecting data privacy than Google... You can see they have Azure data centers there if you look at Azure Regions map online.
Public transport and taxi is the main way to travel in South Korea for foreigners though, heck even for many locals. biking isn't really done, and for walking distance/speed you can just look on the map to see where you're going. the only thing that's sourly missing is car directions, but all that combined it is clearly far from useless. That being said, it's best to just use their local Naver Maps or Kakao Maps, which do have full functionality.
Korean companies also prefer to use their own apps and technology to keep the economy flowing inside the country rather than global corporations. Not just Google maps but Google as a search engine itself is subpar here. With most people using the Korean equivalents; Daum or Naver. The same goes with map apps Kakao, Daum, and Naver maps all work excellently providing routes and other great information. It's the same reason apps like Uber fail here. The Korean equivalent is intentionally given less restrictions and is therefore more convenient for the customers. If you're on a trip to Korea don't waste your time getting upset because the global apps don't work. Just get the Korean versions and be on your way
I learned this video the hard way. My friends and I were in Seoul last November, and we were "near" the Seoul Tower, according to Google Maps, and tbh, we could see it just "a bit farther" (duh, it's big.). The app showed us that it was just a "straight path" from where we were, on the way to the Tower. So we were like, hey, the weather's pretty good (it was around 1 degree Celsius at around 8:30 PM, not that much wind), why don't we just walk the distance (just a 30 mins walk according to Google Maps). We began walking through some sideroads, as Google said. Ooooooooh, boy. 40 minutes later, the sideroads seemed to not be ending, the Seoul Tower was not getting closer, and the straight path seemed more and more false. A few more minutes later, we called it quits and called for a KakaoTaxi (smth like Uber) to take us to nearer to the tower. The taxi ride took us about 10 more minutes from where we stopped, and the taxi was going FAST. On the taxi, we saw how far we were, and how elevated the rest of the roads up were. We also realized that there was no way we would've gotten to the Tower even if we walked for the rest of the night, just because the sideroads were IN NO WAY connected to the actual roads going to the Tower. We were also wearing business suits during this hike.
I'm Chinese. We don't use Google maps. We use our own maps. The most popular map in China is Gaode map. It has road condition information and speed limit monitoring information, and the road information is also updated very quickly.
you do realize that bing had been collecting 3D mapping data for about 6 years prior and also developed an AI to map the entire world for MSFS2020, so thinking about it, pretty logical that they have more mapping data
its kind of inconsistent though, for example, at 1:59 you see camp henry is blanked out on the map, but there is actually another military installation (camp george) visible in the screen capture that does have roads and buildings marked. Also for those unaware, these are mostly US military bases.
I think Google updated their map on South Korea as it now a lot more interactive then I remember it being few weeks ago and clicking on things actually gets results.
People: "Hey this is just a copy of that CGP Grey Guy!" Me: But it's content and style is more similar to "Half as Interesting". Like this guy and grey have noticeably different styles and genres of topics. And even if this guy has similar styles or cover similar genre of topics as other people he does it in an enjoyable way that is easy to understand with nice visuals. Having more quality content inspired by other creators should be celebrated. People: "BUT THEY BOTH THE COLOR GRAY!" Me: Oh shit your right, my bad.
I didn't know about Naver and Kakao at first when I went to South Korea for the first of my two weeks trip. So for the first few week I used Google Maps and getting lost almost everywhere. But on the bright side, everyone there was so nice they actually help me even before I asked for their help
2:32 I love that Korean accent that he did there; or was it even an attempt at an accent? He obviously has an accent already, but it seems like there was some extra effort there.
Sounds prefectly reasonable, as long as a end user can still get the information while locally there, nothing wrong with a country wishing to supporting their own. Goblization is cool and all but there are/should be limits on what sectors you outsource.
