Why Speedrunners HATE Pokemon Alpha Sapphire

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@PulseEffects 11 месяцев назад

Hello gamers! I recently released another video explaining a few things I didn't fully explain in this video! Check it out if you have questions. 🙂 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-RgxxpYwfKig.html

@blackrapier713 Год назад

Sheer cold increases in accuracy based on the level gap. For every level they have above yours it gains 1%. So sheer cold had a 34% rather than a 30%. Which does a lot more than most people expect, just like how 95% accurate moves miss so often.

@dreadknight2439 Год назад

This explains sooo fucking much, I remember Kyogre hitting sheer cold sooo fucking often despite it supposed to be 30 accuracy against my team

@PulseEffects Год назад

Ahhh I totally forgot about the level difference mechanic.

@nerddwarf Год назад

@@dreadknight2439 OHKO moves also fail outright of the user is lower level than the target (level 99 Walrein using Sheer Cold will fail against a lv. 100 Sunkern)

@neri1220 Год назад

@@nerddwarf Indeed thats why they just needed 55 lvl Kyogre.

@shadowtitanx3962 Год назад

If it’s not 100% Accurate, it's 50% Accurate

@seastruck5410 Год назад

I wasn’t fortunate enough to play these games when they came out only played the Original ones and honestly seeing how this game was made, man do I wish diamond and pearl had the same treatment cause holy crap it looks so beautiful.

@notscorchingsands9718 Год назад

But everyone bitching about it at launch says otherwise

@martinthomas2520 Год назад

@@notscorchingsands9718That’s what I never understood tbh, game was amazing yet people still found meaningless things to complain… lol

@frizzyrascal1493 Год назад

@@martinthomas2520 Nah don't twist the history there, Alpha Sapphire and Omega Ruby had a much better first review wave than the DP Remakes had. It was greatly made, but I still don't get why they cut out the Emerald extra stuff.

@jonsupee3373 Год назад

@@notscorchingsands9718 they always do that, it happened to the black and white games too. Turned out to be the best games of the franchise.

@2thezaza Год назад

@@notscorchingsands9718 I don’t remember that at all except the too much water memes

@Imamotherfreakingavocado Год назад

Latias is my favourite legendary, she deserved better 😭😭

@conradlorgar5508 Год назад

...why?

@rique3849 Год назад

Same

@helion2018 Год назад

Casually waiting till people start fighting because someone "misgendered" a Pokémon (Saw this happen like 3 times with Zacian).

@alctry Год назад

@@helion2018 There seem to be no errors. Latias can only be female, the male counterpart is Latios (think like Nidoking and Nidoqueen).

@adamiamnottellingyoumylast5746 Год назад

Same here because she was the first legend I ever got

@elmago2808 Год назад

Fun facts with Jake! This actually mirrors the competitive scene near perfectly, as in gen 3 kyogre was the most dominant mon in ubers, while, when oras dropped, groudon surpassed it by a long shot

@gregorymirabella1423 Год назад

that fire typing and water immunity was huge for it.

@elmago2808 Год назад

@@gregorymirabella1423 yup. The water inmunity, especially, turned their matchup from one where they both had to be very cautious to an absolute groudon victory

@ThatOneWeirdFlex Год назад

@@gregorymirabella1423there is also more moves and pokemon that can abuse sun in ORAS

@selearth3123 Год назад

@@ThatOneWeirdFlex i think you've forgotten how their primal forms' weather abilities worked. Nobody was using regular groudon in ORAS ubers so they could set up sun.

@alexursu4403 Год назад

@@selearth3123 You sure that wasn't reffering to VGC ? AKA the doubles format ?

@LocalMaple Год назад

8:13 That’s actually 34%. OHKO moves gain 1% for each level above the target the user is.

@Official_ViperYT Год назад

But if the oh ko user is lower level, it's 0% accuracy

@cheekywario4361 Год назад

Half of the comments are saying this😭

@davidstratton696 Год назад

@@Official_ViperYT Which is such a weird way u think it would work the same way both ways where every lv lower it would just reduce it by 1. Seems weird 😂.

@princeking1562 11 месяцев назад

@@Official_ViperYT Legendaries would be unaffected if higher level but not normal pokemon if it hasn't changed and theres no way you should have such a weak legend at the league too easy to level on the cave.

@jianchristian1367 9 месяцев назад

@@princeking1562there's no time to fucking grind in a speedrun. cope

@RustyhairedAlp9575 Год назад

I guess you could say that alpha saphire is hard mode. That and maybe more people should be using the grass type starter in the game where the villains primarily use water types.

@N12015 Год назад

Flannery and Wattson.

@piranhalettuce Год назад

I can walk on water I can fly

@PredictableEnigma Год назад

There are a bunch of catchable grass and water types though. Very few fire types to catch.

@crumpetsancheese2197 Год назад

@@PredictableEnigma yeah, but this is a speedrun. they don't have time to catch & train like a lotad, and grass is a really bad type in general.

@hankhill7155 Год назад

@Crumpetsancheese your logic and username is terrible..get swept by a dommy mommy tsareena

@zone0ftruth Год назад

I had no idea how hard alpha sapphire gets dunked on lmao

@HabitualThinker Год назад

idk man, this seems like the problems are all specific to speedrunners who dont know that water is weak to grass though its problably not worth catching a water mon just for surf

@linglingforever Год назад

@@HabitualThinker if u pick treecko, you have nothing for magneton and flannery, i imagine mudkip is still faster due to that roadblock

@DJFracus Год назад

@@HabitualThinker Do a Treecko run and let us know how it goes against Brawly, Rival, Wattson, Flannery, and Norman (hint: it's worse against all of them). Let us know when you beat all the speedrunners who don't know that water is weak to grass.

@egbertmilton4003 Год назад

@@DJFracus It’s easy to get through those trainers. Seems like they just have a skill issue

@kyarumomochi5146 Год назад

@@egbertmilton4003 ah yes speedrunners has skill issue

@FiboSai Год назад

Why do speedrunners use the red orb in OR, while avoiding the use of the blue orb in AS against Glacia? Is it because Kyogre can theoretically win faster without it, but Groudon has to transform to win? That would be an awkward case of one game having a strat that is technically faster than the other, but more annoying to perform because it is inconsistent.

@PulseEffects Год назад

Pretty much. Groudon needs the stat boost from its Primal, otherwise it's insanely nature and stat dependant.

@groudonvert7286 Год назад

@@PulseEffects It's just stupid if you're on a WR pace, you don't have to throw it out of the window on RNG if you have a bit slower but safe way to the fight.

@tuby0299 Год назад

@@groudonvert7286 I'd assume that if you don't risk the rng, you lose the WR pace, given how saving even seconds is pretty important on speedruns

@groudonvert7286 Год назад

@@tuby0299 In speedruns like Pokémon where every fight is RNG, I don't believe you have that much time to lose on a fight like that.

@tuby0299 Год назад

@@groudonvert7286 well in a speedrun, even a few seconds can be what defines a WR run. And while it is true that Pokémon speedruns are filled with rng, you're always going to play against those odds for an optimal play. After all, if it wasn't an important thing to begin with, I doubt anyone would be risking the run, yet that's not the case

@N12015 Год назад

34/66% chance, not 3'/70%. Sheer cold gains 1% accuracy for each level above the opponent, making the situation slightly worse.

@ekman_larsson4821 Год назад

I feel like it's worth noting that the Walrein can also go for Surf or Body Slam and we usually only have to risk 2 turns on the Walrein, which makes it much more reasonable to go for the no Blue Orb strat since you are fairly likely to survive

@Official_ViperYT Год назад

Yeah but if your not that's a big time waster, and your legendary is dead. And usually a speedrunner doesn't try grinding levels that much in a run because it takes time out of the run.

@ekman_larsson4821 Год назад

@@Official_ViperYT I was trying to make a point for why people go for a relatively risky strat that late into the game because I saw some people in the comment section who said that it would not be worth it. I don't exactly know what you are trying to tell me but yes, sometimes we have to take risks in Pokémon Speedruns so that we can go fast

@philipgelderblom6878 Год назад

Kyorgrie. My pain

@Official_ViperYT Год назад

Nah the re in Kyogre is pronounced backwards.

@aprinnyonbreak1290 Год назад

Kyorgy

@Official_ViperYT Год назад

@@aprinnyonbreak1290 yes, kyorgy

@AdmireVega Год назад

Kyo grr

@MimoriAzume 3 месяца назад

Kroger

@ultimapower6950 Год назад

So since Omega Ruby is the preferred game for ORAS speedruns does that mean that Omega Ruby is avenging Ruby or something

@Official_ViperYT Год назад

Probably, after all Kyogre would win agienst Groudon cuz of typing. so I guess it's just avenging the legendary.

@UltraAryan10 Год назад

@@Official_ViperYT Yes but Primal Groudon can beat Primal Kyogre and is better overall so they did just flip the matchup of Gen 3 in Gen 6.

@Official_ViperYT Год назад

@@UltraAryan10 yeah, I remember I think they gave Groudon solar beam to handle weaknesses. and with the desolate land it is a 1 turn op move.

@Lord_necromancer Год назад

@@Official_ViperYT also desolate land fully negates all water attacks so Kyogre is fully useless against primal Groudon

@IschmarVI 10 месяцев назад

"preferred", because the games actually have separate leaderboards due to being different enough from one another.

@d-anca3491 Год назад

The Latios in the red game and Latias in the blue game is also in the originals but you get them latter and is harder to catch them, only in Emerald they let you choose which you want. Also I think is better that you can't skip some parts of the game.

@AFXffs772 Год назад

Groudon is actually much better for the 8th gym as it sets up Desolate Land which nullifies Water moves, which the AI doesn’t get and will still spam Water moves seeing the 4x weakness oblivious to the fact it’s doing 0 damage, this also saves time on the animations

@kumoko3728 3 месяца назад

You can turn animations off...

@alecrutz6979 Месяц назад

@@kumoko3728 honestly I'd advise doing it in normal gameplay too because man it takes up so much time.

@ricebox3048 Год назад

Poor lati-ass. It's so cute but not strong enough for speedruns :(

@augustorojas9371 Год назад

6:54 May and Brendan are 12 years old in Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire. The ten year old rule is exclusive to the anime and every single playable character we known the age of is older than 10.

@theleonpasta7336 Год назад

I always figured Red and Blue were 10, though I do see why people think the other player characters are older, the Gen 5 protagonists literally look like teenagers yet their age is probably never states and as an anime fan you'd presume the "10 years old" rule as canon, though obvs it isn't since many of the PC (player characters) are obviously older than 10

@meltysap1679 Год назад

@@theleonpasta7336 game protags from gen 1-4 and 7 are all 11, stated originally I think in game manuals and then in gen 7 directly gen 5 trainers are 14 for BW and 12 for BW2, and then gen 6 is at least 17 idk about 8 lol

@augustorojas9371 Год назад

@@meltysap1679 At the time of their journey: Red, Blue, Elio, and Selene are 11 years old. Brendan and May are 12 while Hilbert and Hilda are 14. Calem and Serena are older than Emma who is 16 while Akari and Rei are stated to be around 15. It may be safe to assume that Leaf is the same age as Red and Blue. Ethan, Kris, Lucas, Dawn and Lyra’s age are unknown but cannot be older than 14 as Hilbert and Hilda are said to be older than them. The age of Chase and Elaine is unknown but it can be assumed that they are younger than Red, Blue, and Green making them the only playable characters I’ll accept being called 10 years old. Nate, Rosa, Victor, Gloria, Florian and Juliana have completely unknown ages.

@GKplus8 8 месяцев назад

@@augustorojas9371 Florian & Juliana both look about the same as Chase & Elaine.

@ellachino4799 2 месяца назад

That don't mean diddily squat with the anime artstyle and you know it@GKplus8

@BijouBellaRixp1 Год назад

I am here solely because of that thumbnail it is adorable pat whoever made it on the back they deserve it

@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868 Год назад

Alpha sapphire was one of the first games I ever beat and I will never forget how important some of those pokemon are to me. I cried when I got to the credits and it showed me fighting with my pokemon with their greatest hits.

@livebyfaith4647 Год назад

one of the first games you ever beat? how old are u like 5? game came out like 6 years ago bro

@dirtylivin07 Год назад

@@livebyfaith4647 2014 was 9 years ago.

@xeths_tcg Год назад

@@livebyfaith4647 9. The guy could be like 14

@pigeonflame9885 Год назад

@@livebyfaith4647 assuming he was like 9 when he beat it he could even be 18 lmao

@testerwulf3357 11 месяцев назад

@@livebyfaith4647 How would they currently be 5?? It came out 9 years ago, I was 11-ish when it came out; my first pokemon game was X&Y however, first game I'd ever beaten I think? I'm not really that good at video games but I'm pretty decent at pokemon

@PulseEffects Год назад

Justice for Latias!!! 😭😤

@dr.toxicgamingmadscientist Год назад

like you said, LotiASS

@HollowKnightFanGD Год назад

Justice!

@andreathereshiram7578 Год назад

Justice for her!

@thedotgiver2820 Год назад

@Greninja36 Год назад

Loti Asss ? Bro what

@nerddwarf Год назад

The accuracy of OHKO moves increase if the user is higher level than the target (1% per level), and fail if the user is lower level than the target. Level 54 Walrein has a 34% to hit Sheer Cold against a level 50 Kyorge It's only a 66% chance to not get hit by Sheer Cold, not 70%

@TwiliPaladin Год назад

1:35 In my Pokémon Y playthrough, that was the Black Belt in Reflection Cave who had nothing but a Sawk. Dude wiped 4 of my pokemon before I could get a single hit off.

@ARCHIVED9610 Год назад

Lmao for me it was the autumn bridge battle my team got swept and i was OVERLEVELEd

@charlessmith3756 Год назад

"HM Friend" hit me like a truck

@David_the_Psalmist Год назад

Calling Kyogre Kee-oh-gree is one of the biggest Ls the anime ever took. The only thing worse than that that I can think of is calling Rattata Rattatat.

@marshupp Год назад

How Kyogre should be prounonce ? Kai-oh-geer ?

@David_the_Psalmist Год назад

@@marshupp Close. It's Kai, like Dragonball Kai, and then ogre, like Shrek.

@jouheikisaragi6075 11 месяцев назад

I tend to say Key Oh Gray

@David_the_Psalmist 11 месяцев назад

@@jouheikisaragi6075 I catch you saying that, I’ll show you what a KO grey looks like.

@jouheikisaragi6075 11 месяцев назад

@@David_the_Psalmist not my fault that's how it's said in both my native language. Same with Rayquaza being Ry(like Ride) Kwa Za and Arceus being Ar seh oos. Spanish is a funny language like that.

@FortunateNeil Год назад

Latass my beloved

@Aleph3575 Год назад

4:52 Tbf it was always like that even in the OG games. You always got the Eon legendary who was the opposite color of your game. Its just in the OG games you didn't get them midgame so they weren't relevant to a speedrun unless going for a 100% run.

@kookio4284 Год назад

I almost think it would be more beneficial to use Torchic in Alpha Sapphire than it is to use Mudkip.

@IschmarVI 10 месяцев назад

no, it wouldn't. Otherwise speedrunners would use it.

@aprinnyonbreak1290 10 месяцев назад

Torchic can't beat Roxanne That's mostly it. Torchic absolutely cannot beat Roxanne without unreasonable luck. Combusken can, but you don't have a Combusken, you have a Torchic, and if you grind for Combusken, you are now irrecoverably behind pace

@Hilly_LittleFeatheryCorner 11 месяцев назад

I came here for the content of this video. I didn't expect you to use "vulnerability" for the bg music in the end part. I'm commenting here to give you a h5 for the usage of the ost.

@ExtremeBirdTypography Год назад

Love the Latias named 'Latios' at 5:14 there. The cope is real.

@dr.toxicgamingmadscientist Год назад

i just realized that Resonance is the track used for this video, what a neat touch

@mcspiffy5843 Год назад

My favorite boy Machop, finally getting some time in the spotlight!

@caolanochearnaigh9804 Год назад

That thumbnail, man. Hilarious. May's like, "Dammit Archie! Why won't your goons stop following me?!

@xxbloo_skoutxx Год назад

Kai-Oh-Gree 😭

@RyanY6969 Год назад

This game made my childhood Thankful for the moments I had with my cousins Playing 3DS and having fun as kids

@joshuah.4496 Год назад

Goddamn, that made me feel old. It was the same way for me with the 2nd and 3rd gen games

@LucianDevine Год назад

Sheer Cold, 30% of the time, it hits every time!

@Infurnadox_Gaming Год назад

1 thing you didn’t mention is that groundon gets access to solar beam, that is a 1 turn move if the sun is up so the water gym goes down instantly to it

@PulseEffects Год назад

Solar Beam is not used for the speedrun! Its Ground/Fire moves obliterate everything in its path.

@Robbie_Haruna 11 месяцев назад

I assume that wasn't mentioned because it's usually not worth it lol. The boosted fire moves from sunlight and the ground moves scaling off its insane physical attack are nutty.

@empressmako Год назад

i wonder if you can get 5 rare candies for kyogre before glacia to prevent the ohko

@kstanni87 Год назад

you can grind in Victory Road and just don't waste those rare candies on any pokemon in Alpha Sapphire speedruns (where kyogre is allowed)

Год назад

@@kstanni87 does grinding not add to the speedrun time?

@gregorymirabella1423 Год назад

takes too much time. you can potentially get WR if you just gamble on not getting OKHO'd, so everyone just hopes for the best.

@Dirty_mike_and_dem_boys Год назад

@no

@aprinnyonbreak1290 Год назад

@@gregorymirabella1423 This Because you CAN beat Glacia reasonably without Rare Candies, that means you HAVE to if you wanna go for WR. Kinda like the no Blue Orb strat itself. Groudon basically has to use it without unreasonable luck, so using it hasn't been worked out of the WR yet, but because Kyogre reasonably can, you have to.

@sxperpotion Год назад

i enjoyed this thoroughly, i need more.

@eirikeiken Год назад

I remember doing a for-fun Latias only run of AS. It was fun and doable, but it was sort of frustrating how all the league match-ups are very unfavorable. Dark type, Ghost type, Ice Type, and Dragon type are all super effective against my red plane wife. Obviously not a speed run :D.

@Corvimae Год назад

ALPHA SAPPHIRE MY BELOVED latas

@ogeid772 Год назад

Wouldnt a quick trip to the Lillycove department store to get the Thunder TM help with the Walrein? I get that its a speedrun, so time is of the essence, but i think you could make up for the time lost by not needing to set up on the fight

@Skullhawk13 Год назад

Rival fight blocks it

@shimogane2474 Год назад

Yo blaziken looks amazing for a alpha sapphire speed run. Too sad that you need to catch a water type because Latias encounters right after the first surf area.

@Boulder7685 Год назад

Yeah I’m curious how much time you’d have to lose to catching a Lotad. Though the first gym being rock probably hurts the Torchic pick as well.

@Diz_27 Год назад

I screamed so loud at Lati-Ass 😂😂😂

@morenoreno3389 3 месяца назад

I find it funny how he stresses whenever he says Lati-ASS

@NineQuestionMarks Год назад

I'm starting to wonder if it would be faster to use Treecko instead. You get Rock Tomb right after the first gym to deal with all of Grass' weaknesses except for poison, and it adds more type variety compared to using both Mudkip and Kyogre, plus Latias can learn Surf, Dive, and Waterfall.

@testerwulf3357 11 месяцев назад

Treecko is just not good in these games, worst starter choice as it doesn't do well with most of the gyms and anything after..it also ironically doesn't do well against team aqua as most of team aquas pokemon aren't water types and super effective against grass types..they mostly use dark, flying, and poison types (if it was a viable option the speedrunners would of tried it)

@IschmarVI 10 месяцев назад

@@testerwulf3357 it's honestly very underrated, but even then, it is unfortunately not fast enough to compete for the speedrun. Also, mudkip has the added benefit of learning all required HMs, meaning you don't have to catch anything else (except for the box legendary) in the run.

@aprinnyonbreak1290 10 месяцев назад

You lose to Wattson, lose to Flannery, and need to catch a Surf pokemon. You can grind or catch pokemon to help this, but than means you are now behind pace and will never recover. The only other way to save time would be if Treecko was better than Latias and/or Kyogre through midgame and lategame. It is not. It gets pushed in by Winona, has no tools to deal with Golbat or Weezing well, dies even harder to Glacia, flounders against Drake, and dies screaming to Steven. It is also constantly making contact with Sharpedo which, while I can't say for sure, probably means there are items you need to use between certain fights, and possibly some pokemon Sceptile just doesn't have the HP left to survive a hit from.

@ChronoSquare 4 месяца назад

This helps me know about OR on one video. That's good content.

@dogf421 Год назад

ive always thought pokemon speedrunning was kinda insane cause when you push things that far the game seems to be pure luck (which is fun in its own way but very different from other speed runs)

@PulseEffects Год назад

Exactly why I love Pokemon Speedruns!

@RustingPeace Год назад

as a kid i after beating the game like 2-3 times i always speedrunned the games for the legendaries to trade them

@FishdipDeen Год назад

Was not expecting to hear Mother 3 music. Great taste!

@Magicdfox Год назад

You did not nickname your latias “Latios” that is next level lmao

@alucardthespy5539 Год назад

Lati-O-s is for Omega Ruby because of the O Lati-A-s is for Alpha Sapphire because of the A Makes sense to me.

@Nocturne989 Год назад

That Trauma Center music got me mad nostalgic though

@Conkel Год назад

The music playing at the end. What is it?

@rotcivmik Год назад

@@Conkel The song starting at 8:38 is Vulnerability from the Trauma Center Second Opinion OST

@auroraborealis9763 Год назад

I love this pokemon game so much its my childhood i spent hundreds of hours playing it and i caught my first shiny. Sadly i lost the cartridge. Rest in peace my lvl 100 shiny magicarp named god you will always have a special place in my heart

@ellachino4799 2 месяца назад

... your 3ds should still have the data...?

@carlosmujun Год назад

4:20 i died

@mishmishb 11 месяцев назад

6:25 in to the video and I could swear my spotify is playing quietly in the background, nope that's just the backing track of the video. Home - Resonance if anyone is interested :D

@soulsurvivor32 Год назад

I used lastias in sword and shield for a while and lemme tell ya, this thing has milotic defense, but it's on steroids. It's defense is what it makes it so good, along with that good speed. Like latios, they have access to thunderbolt, calm mind and ice beam! I'm not sure if they're available in Oras but I guarantee it gets it now. It's a good pokemon but I don't like the fact I have to calm mind before doing real damage

@UltraAryan10 Год назад

Latias was always supposed to be the defense version but unfortunately the overall idea of the Pokemon is way better for offensive purposes so Latias always seems to be better even for Calm Mind sets.

@colony30sshittyproudbanner Год назад

It's so funny, because my favorite pokemon game to this day is alpha Sapphire. Maybe I'll try speedrunning it at some point, who knows

@SonicTheCutehog Год назад

I guess that makes it fair since Sapphire was by far the best version to speedrun, so Omega Ruby is by far the best version to speedrun for the remakes.

@caldw615 Год назад

Just curious, if the early stages of AS are so difficult due to water types like Carvana/Sharpedo then why not use Treecko as the starter instead? Grass would still do well against the first Gym and the aqua grunts, and it learning Absorb/Mega Drain would still give it STAB that's neutral to fighting types while letting it recover a bit to compensate for lower defense.

@PulseEffects Год назад

Not worth using Grovyle! It gets walled harder by worse threats than Carvanha. (Rivals/Gyms)

@caldw615 Год назад

@@PulseEffects Didn't expect a reply haha. I was just wondering if it would have at least done up until you reached Latias and then could be boxed for the rest of the game since you couldn't do that in the original Ruby and Sapphire so early.

@Hyperneosonic97 Год назад

@@caldw615 Then you'd also have to waste time capturing Pokemon to use the required HMs with. This is why Mudkip is so much better- it also learns every required HM so you don't have to spend time on captures.

@caldw615 Год назад

@@Hyperneosonic97 Ah that's true, I forgot there's like 3 HM's just for traversing water in this game alone.

@Hyperneosonic97 Год назад

@@caldw615 Even were it not for that, though, Grovyle would face huge problems once you reached Flannery, since Grovyle isn't anywhere near strong enough to deal with her Torkoal (heck, even taking out her Slugma is a tough one), without excessive grinding and Flannery is before you get access to Latias.

@lucideirune1635 Год назад

If you have another 3DS with the Eon Ticket, you can send an eon ticket to your other game and get Latios after defeating Kyogre.

@coyotai9474 Год назад

beautiful video, really well put together, yeah the red 1 is wayy better than the blue one, so im happy its in alpha cos id rather have it than the blue guy

@Lee-fw5bd Год назад

This is informative and all but I do find the end kind of funny. They have the sheer willpower to... finish the game!

@megasartshack Год назад

Sheer cold has the same chance to hit (4% higher in this case as people have pointed out) as Scald has a chance to burn. And anyone who has played showdown or in-game competitive during gen 5-8 will know, that's high enough to be very painful indeed.

@1ledluverjlp Год назад

An "HM friend". Taking the safe route huh

@v.thirteen5504 Месяц назад

HM?

@Blizzard7373 Год назад

That was my first game so special place in my heart

@dabondemhaders4828 Год назад

At least the aqua admin bad asf

@harrymillar4193 11 месяцев назад

Latias is my favourite out of the two because I just like her :) Sapphire was the game I chose when I was a lil’un and it’s what I picked when the remakes came out. Heck, I picked White during Gen 5 and then when the sequels were up for grabs, I had to pick Black 2, which conflicts with the story but I Latias was exclusive to B2!

@phantomstarsx9343 Год назад

Would... would it maaaaybe be better to use the treeko line? All of the issues seem to be water type pokemon, and aside from the ice/water combo at the end sceptile may be able to hit harder

@Elzoic Год назад

My guess is that aside from team aqua, mudkip does better against all other trainers. Like I could see wattson giving players a hard time, due to the possibility of paralysis, as well as flannery being a pain too. Also you need something that can use surf as well so you’d have to waste time finding another surfer, cause even if latias can learn surf you need to surf to get to her. I am sure there are a ton of other factors as well, but I’m i guess that’s why they call this speedrun a mess.

@PulseEffects Год назад

Like most Grass Pokemon, Rival fights kinda ruin its potential. I'm pretty sure it doesn't learns the HMs we need either.

@ultimaterecoil1136 Год назад

Well for one treecko can’t learn every required hm so not an option. This is without considering how bad it is for rival fights. If surf is required you use the water starter just sometimes you catch something to use instead like in gen 1 how people use nidoking

@Official_ViperYT Год назад

I would for speedruns but we would need a second pokemon for surf and waterfall and dive. And swampernt learns em all

@IschmarVI 10 месяцев назад

@@PulseEffects not all rival fights. It *does* eventually get swords dance + dig. But rival 2 is a biiiiig pain in the butt, especially because combusken isn't even weak to rock tomb, lol.

@DarkKnightofHeaven 11 месяцев назад

It's important to note that OHKO moves aren't a flat 30% and their accuracy changes based on level. your of a lower level than the pokemon using it, the accuracy increases by 1% for each level. In all of the instances shown, since Kyogre was level 50, Walrein's sheer cold was a 34% chance to hit, so in theory a slightly higher than 1 in 3 chance, which is way scarier of a situation.

@abarette_ Год назад

hey at least they don't have Freeze-Dry

@darkfiredragon3410 Год назад

The 2nd Glalie does have Freeze-Dry, actually.

@lewdjustice567 Год назад

I got stuck when he said "Kyogree"

@blaym4271 8 месяцев назад

I had to pause the video for a solid 30 seconds

@kstanni87 Год назад

lol i play omega ruby and primal groudon is indeed very overpowered for becoming immune to and shutting down water moves. And if your Groudon is slower its ability will come AFTER Kyogre shutting down Primordial Sea.

@SilentOnion Год назад

4:22 "latiASS" :DD?

@gabs3147 9 месяцев назад

Nothing but bangers in the background

@Permanently_Salty Год назад

Ah yes, my favorite pokemon: Kyogree

@Ddoublechin Год назад

Love all the hoenn content lately

@MiBrin Год назад

My favorite remakes by far. They were jusz beautiful

@thepracticeofchaos5629 3 месяца назад

8:10 During my Pokemon Platinum Nuzlocke, the K.O. attack was used on my Pokemon 4 times, and it hit 3 times... 30% is a lot when an AI attacks

@Mimiyan_or_Pikapikafan Год назад

Is the TM for Thunder accessable mid run? Because Kyogre with Thunder could help a lot

@Celestia282 Год назад

Thunder is only available in the Lilycove Department Store, which is locked behind an optional Brendan fight that I'm guessing speedrunners skip.

@Mimiyan_or_Pikapikafan Год назад

@@Celestia282 I wasn't sure if it was like that in ORAS, so I guess the question is if it's faster (or even possible) to beat Brendan and get Thunder or not. Because I can't imagine using a Kyogre without Thunder, so Alpha Sapphire 100% got hit there then lol

@goaway9923 Год назад

when/where does the cutscene between 0:00 and 0:08 come from? I don't remember it and I'm really curious

@Red-hy8df 3 месяца назад

it's from when you travel on kyogre/groudon's back and fight their primal form

@dankdankeryetdanker2726 Год назад

That thumbnail is so good.

@redzawsome Год назад

when u remember that it works on level so if u kyorge is lower level then walrien sheer cold has a higher chance to hit

@praimi13 Год назад

yeah it makes sence for OR to be easy just throw a mudkip at everything

@yoredpanda4ishot 11 месяцев назад

Which starter is you guys favorite?

@SparenofIria Год назад

Nicknaming Latias Latios is hilarious!

@nerddwarf Год назад

Lati@s

@rickastley3033 Год назад

ive never heard anyone pronounce kyogre as kyogree before

@jjnix9517 Год назад

I normally have a zigzagoon for surf and give waterfall to swampert

@mrcrabominablevods3477 Год назад

And I have to mash through dialogue and fight team magma everytime I want a shot at getting shiny Latios. at least I brought a timid natured sychronise Gardevoir so it's guaranteed to have a timid nature.

@rainbowtheanimator9901 Месяц назад

I know it requires friendship, but I would've expected to see water pledge involved in this video

@Spiney09 Год назад

Me who nuzlocked Alpha Saphire last week: I wish I had known this before.

@aprinnyonbreak1290 Год назад

Mmm. In a Nuzkocke, Sapphire is probably much more even, but still a bit harder in account of how universally free Camerupt is. Anyone can fish up a Luvdisc or a Maril, slap Surf on it, and send Camerupt to sleep. But Latias is probably the better fit for a Nuzlocke (if you use it), Lotad is a way better pickup than Shiftry, Sableye makes Brawly free, ect

@Spiney09 Год назад

@@aprinnyonbreak1290 to be fair, most of Alpha saphire is free, given how easy the trainers are.

@aprinnyonbreak1290 Год назад

@@Spiney09 I mean, yeah, but complacency is how death snowballs begin

@Spiney09 Год назад

@@aprinnyonbreak1290 that’s fair, but even staying under level caps and not having rare candy cheats, I only ever lost two mons. One to a sad crit in the first gym, and the other against Steven’s Metagross. So it wasn’t too bad.

@Gamesmarts194 8 месяцев назад

Wait wouldn't the Sheet Cold problem also exist in Omega Ruby also? Or does Groudon or Latias outspeed and one-shot with stab moves or something?

@cooldude-qz1gf Год назад

Bro I literally just got apha sapphire on my ds, but lucky im not doing a speedrun lol

@d007ization 9 месяцев назад

Primal Kryo has way higher Sp. A. than the OG, right? Is the Orb transformation that much slower than a 2hko as a opposed to a 3hko?

@ibrahim6192 11 месяцев назад

I spammed lava plume on glacias team and took all of it out with one hit kos

@AS34N Год назад

Ide be curious to see her A.I.'s strat.. It takes 3 hits from a level 50 kyogre (bar any crits) to take that walrean out...the AI has to always see a kill with sheer cold reguardless of players health, right? So what's the percentage rate she actually goes with it over surf or something? Anyone know?

@testerwulf3357 11 месяцев назад

I think trainers usually pick the move that's super effective (unless you're at low health, they they just randomly pick one sometimes using a non-effective which allows to survive and kill them..Idk what's going on there honestly? Maybe some build in "they're almost dead, time to take it a little easier on them"?)

@IschmarVI 10 месяцев назад

it's something chance-based of "I either use the move I calculated to do the most damage or a move that I don't see as damaging", although the latter category isn't exactly intuitive. Also, the AI seems to be unable to calculate the power of variable strength moves like return. Also, the chance to either attack or do something else, seems to be affected by both pokemon's HP, how much damage the attacking move does and individual trainer preferences.

@aprinnyonbreak1290 10 месяцев назад

1HKO moves are generally treated as status moves The AI doesn't consider them proper damaging moves, and will only use them if they aren't prioritizing anything else, barring special AI. Basically. While Kyogre is outside of KO range of any of Walrein's attacks, Walrein will use any of its moves at random, unless one of those moves has some kind of "unacceptable" tag, like using Hail while the weather is still Hail, or something. As soon as Walrein sees a possible KO roll on an attack it as, it will try and use that move (or any move it has that shares a KO roll, regardless of which is the "best"), and will no longer pull Sheer Cold, same as it would if it, for example, knew Defense Curl.

@averagepersonafan2718 Месяц назад

Tartarus theme is crazy

@LukeA471 Год назад

Where is the extra e in Kyogre? I'm not seeing it

@techknight3753 8 месяцев назад

If there are any Rare Candies to pick up along the way, getting to level 55 on Kyoger makes it impossible for Walrein to hit sheer cold, as it always fails if the target is a higher level then the user.

@kashshhds8824 Год назад

As someone who tried speed running the game for the first time no practice on alpha sapphire and beat it in 4 hours it’s very frustrating

@TimothyDexter247 Год назад

Kyogr- the fuck did you just call it!?

@Deoxys_Used_Mimic 3 месяца назад

I guess the time loss in grabbing the Thunder TM or saving a few rare candies so Sheer Cold *won’t work* just isn’t worth it for a consistent Glacia. Better to wrestle with RNG forever.

@PulseEffects 3 месяца назад

You are correct in your assumption! Speedruns are all about giving and taking things in as little time as possible, and these solutions don't give back enough timesave.