Why Star Ship Troopers took so long to become beloved in film zeitgeist

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Casper Van Dien (Starship Troopers, Sleepy Hollow) joins us this week to share how he changed course from his military upbringing to pursue his dream of acting, and how his career has come full circle with the lives he’s impacted through this work. Casper shares a lot from his experience with Starship Troopers - from the marketing stunts that weakened it in the box office, to the industry legends who geek out over the project, and why there’s a resurgence in its popularity nearly three decades after its release. We also talk about what it’s like having a daughter pursue acting, his Ironside mentorship, and memorable moments on set with legends like Ernest Borgnine.

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@digiblak997 3 месяца назад

Starship trooper is one of those movies that you see on tv and you instantly stop and relive a past memory. Its movie gold. I loved it in the 90s and i love it today

@purefoldnz3070 3 месяца назад

its gold Jerry! Gold!

@sci-frieddobbs7459 3 месяца назад

I spent half a day hanging with Casper at his very first convention, in Tampa. He was the NICEST GUY he possibly could be. He went above and beyond for his fans and even did live commentary for Starship Troopers 3 on the spot, which he wasn't even obligated to do. I was there when he was talking to the event staffers. He was like "hey, is there a microphone setup in that viewing room? Would you mind if I went in there and did commentary for my fans?"

@nx1379 3 месяца назад

Ricco!!! You know what to DO!!

@jculver1674 3 месяца назад

Yes, sir!

@ComicBookGuy420 3 месяца назад

Michael Ironside makes everything he's in better

@chriswilloughby48 3 месяца назад

Star Ship Troopers and District 9 go together really well.

@locomike102 3 месяца назад

I watched it in the theater when it came out and it was amazing--the whole audience (it was a full theater) was as animated as I have ever seen an audience. Cheering, laughing, everything. I knew it was something special the first time I saw it.

@mikebasil4832 7 дней назад

Sci-fi films, with the obvious exceptions like Star Wars, E.T. and Jurassic Park, have had a long history of not always finding their most-deservedly huge audiences right away. Retrospectively they can encourage the most thoughtful discussions as Starship Troopers can here. Thank you, Casper.

@Nobody-Nowhere 3 месяца назад

I always told my friends that Starship Troopers is one of the best movies ever made, they never got it and literally laughed at me for it. They thought i was joking or something.

@nate4732 3 месяца назад

So true!

@bobterwilliger6240 Месяц назад

They don't get it. It's like people that don't get "this is spinal tap". They are broken inside and have no soul. The entire movie is gold from beginning to end.

@kevinreynolds4851 3 месяца назад

I saw Starship Troopers in the theater when I was 10. Was already a huge Paul Verhoeven fan and I loved every minute of it!

@ChaseGaming_2 3 месяца назад

Same here I was 7 years old and loved it. I member having a arachnid toy. Wish I still had it! It was a great movie

@shafali1972 3 месяца назад

Some couples have a song, but Starship Troopers is my and my Husbands Movie. When we were dating, Tuesday was our dinner and a movie night and Starship Troopers was our first movie as a married couple (we got married in Dec 1997) and we have watched it at least once a year, and more often if i just happen to see it streaming somewhere. 💞

@jed2648 3 месяца назад

"You mean like being Lex Luthor' LOL! Two icons from my younger days having a conversation. Pure gold. Johnny Rico and Lex Luthor.

@TheMonkeydood 3 месяца назад

Starship troopers cgi still holds up and it's a great movie too. The humour is brilliant.

@kwahhn 3 месяца назад

All the college bros in our dorm loved Starship Troopers, including myself. AND we didn't get the satire at the time. Just a fun movie.

@radiac6818 3 месяца назад

Shower scene.

@JoeBauers 3 месяца назад

Helldivers 2 will rock your face off.... Good shout out, Van D!

@capt_howdy 3 месяца назад

That movie just keeps aging like a fine wine

@danstvguy 3 месяца назад

Like Casper, too.

@SNARC15 3 месяца назад

@@danstvguy And Dina Meyer if you ever see her now. Eternally hot.

@markoutwithmark 3 месяца назад

Casper seems like a great guy. Back in the day if they hadn’t slammed the brakes on the Schumacher Batman movies, I could have seen Casper taking over for Clooney.

@8triagrammer 3 месяца назад

I'm in starship troopers for about a second as an extra, in the foreground in focus.

@olijawanwalterman-helms3210 3 месяца назад

I’m 30 years old. I remember when that movie came out. My dad watched that nonstop one of his favorites.

@jpkingsbury 3 месяца назад

Indisputed classic movie right here. Salute to Casper Van Dien!

@dracoreeper 3 месяца назад

Acting in a movie that literally created a satirical video game is legendary.

@ChristianR-i3g 3 месяца назад

Starship Troopers is a staple of my childhood. No, my life. One of a very small group of films I'll rewatch on occasion. I watch most things only once.

@TheMightyPika 3 месяца назад

Aw man that was a treat. Thank you for uploading this it made my day.

@brendansheehy8124 2 месяца назад

That 1 minute & 22 seconds of gore and nudity in Starship Troopers is glorious…..so glad it was never edited down to PG13.

@cruise_missile8387 3 месяца назад

Man, his role (along with two others in that movie) was one of the reasons I joined the military. Crazy cool (and not surprising) that he spent a lot of time amongst the military early on and initially had planned on doing that. He perfectly portrayed that role, and the movie in general I think inspired a generation of kids to join (the bulk of the GWOT generation). This is awesome!

@bassplayer6667 3 месяца назад

"Would you like to know more?"... Starship Troopers was one of the first DVDs to be released. I bought it the week it came out. I had a DVD drive in my pc so I watched it over and over on it. Saw it in the theater as well. I love how it's signature Verhoven. Such a great movie. And Casper is awesome as Johnny Rico. Starship Troopers is one of my favorite movies. Top 10 for sure.

@alexsmith3332 3 месяца назад

Casper is so cool still have the pic we took at convention. Awesome dude

@BSmith-vc6be 3 месяца назад

Michael, I still watch Sorority Boys…fucking hilarious. Loved it at 29 yrs old then and at 50 yrs old today!

@tjjordan4207 3 месяца назад

There's a price for being "ahead of its time". Sometimes it can be recognized right away or take some time for it to be recognized. Or sometimes it takes decades. Either way, the appreciation and respect by the masses doesn't happen until much later, because it needs to stand the test of time to get there.

@wanealy1 3 месяца назад

I remember watching this around the time it came out on an afternoon with nothing to do. Felt like a decent popcorn movie but didn't think about it further. Randomly, last year I revisited and adored its satire which I completely missed the first time around. I'm not that smart is what I'm saying. Great flick.

@196cupcake 2 месяца назад

I was about 13 in 1997 and saw it in the theaters. The SS uniforms at the end hit us over the head with it, so I got what the movie was about at the time. I loved it from the start. I also remember watching something about it on E! at the time, stuff behind the scenes when filming the knife and brain bug scene.

@amk358 3 месяца назад

Starship Troopers the movie is not supposed to be taken too seriously and it was fun to watch. I enjoyed it in the 90s and I have watched it many times since. As with HG Wells War of the Worlds it no doubt departs from the book but who cares - it made at least some of us smile and it’s just got entertainment after all. I really enjoyed this podcast.

@Skoora 2 месяца назад

Count me in. Saw it in the theater and it was awesome and everyone loved it. If they had made a PG13 movie it would have been a shadow of what it was. As soon as the reporter gets annihilated in the opening minutes and Rico gets it in the leg I knew we were in good hands.

@jasonscottjenkins 2 месяца назад

Starship Troopers is one of the few movies that I went to see in the theater more than once. I took some friends to see it and they weren't impressed.

@thatkid386 3 месяца назад

I saw the movie in the theatre and i didnt ge the satire! i still enjoyed the movie!

@animatorFan74 3 месяца назад

that's so cool...... love that Starship Troopers is getting a lot of love again :)

@RobertSchroeder-o5n 3 месяца назад

From Robocop to Total recall to starship troopers Without The R rating none of these movies would have been as great.

@TimRobertsen 3 месяца назад

Starship Troopers is The Best!

@BigJim5754 3 месяца назад

The movie has its place in my heart but I also had read the book a few months before the movie released and the book has a different tone and is so much better. They also eliminated @ a 3rd the book where they go through boot camp to learn the very cool IronMan like mech suits THAT ALL THE MARINES wear. Like scout suits, infantry suits, tanks suits, so much just left out the movie.

@jayquanvo5134 3 месяца назад

I love Starship Troopers and I love Paul Verhoven’s movies. I feel like verhoven similar to John Carpenter films areahead of the curve and it doesn’t quite land with the cinema audience at the time, but become beloved afterwards.

@BruceStephan 2 месяца назад

Starship Troopers got close to STAR WARS popularity in the video release with the McDonald's Value Meal Deal . It might not have done as well in theaters because of digital downloading also .

@johnnikitakis876 16 дней назад

Casper, I came to starship troopers through the book. Hate to tell you, but Verhoven was a mutt. He was trying for sarcasm, and instead, the team interpreted the source material almost perfectly as to its spirit and intent. Michael Ironside nailed his character. Its a shame they, because they were being sarcastic, didn't include the final scene in the book, where Johnny is on a transport in space and finds out his Father not only survived the bombing, but enlisted and is now his first Sargent.

@joemckim1183 3 месяца назад

A few months before Starship Troopers came out I was walking around in a shopping mall and I was stopped an asked to participate in a market research about movie trailers coming out in the coming months. Starship Troopers was one of those movies so it was the first experience I ahd with this movie. Then a few months later when it came out to theaters I went and saw at the theater. Honestly I can't remmber what the other movie trailers they showed me.

@Ovesicband 3 месяца назад

It's absolutely one of my favorite movies.

@TopDawgMentality 3 месяца назад

I saw this movie in theatres not knowing what it was with my older brother and left amazed at how great the movie was. I guess it hadn’t been marketed but man the movie was great! I must have been like 11 when I saw it 😂

@burningdaylights 2 месяца назад

I'm doing my part!

@stickynorth 3 месяца назад

90's Verhoeven is Peak Verhoeven... I could easily put on Total Recall, Showgirls or Starship Troopers at any point and keep watching...

@wizard1687 3 месяца назад

Also Basic Instinct

@patchup 3 месяца назад

The character building, the timing of each step in the plot, the acting, and the action itself were so good that the "message" was truly a secondary thing. At 20+ I understood the poke at our culture where they hide the violence towards a cow but show all the human gore and war. The Army guy with his legs and hand missing was not subtle. Even though I was prime selective service age I still went in for the gung-ho attitude of the whole movie. I had also read the books. I cannot tell if that helped or hindered the movie in my eyes. I certainly did not try to make the movie about the book, back then.

@matthewsteele8448 3 месяца назад

1997 was such a good year.

@flickemperado1552 3 месяца назад

starship trooper forever favorite ♥️🔥

@geraldking4080 3 месяца назад

It strayed from the '50s teenage book, but kept true to Heinlein's adult 60s & 70s view on totalitarian global empire.

@orangewarm1 2 месяца назад

I find people in their 20s see it as an action film, but people in their 40s can fully appreciate the similarities to America.

@MartinBryan 3 месяца назад

Great interview so fun.

@im.that.guy33 3 месяца назад

I was 7 when it came out and it never went over my head 😂

@MrMarmalade117 3 месяца назад

Fucking movie was the best. I watched it all the time in the 90s

@stephenleblanc4677 3 месяца назад

People partly didn't get it because the marketing campaign didn't promote it as anything but a hardcore space action movie. It also was a little too subtle for America who generally doesn't see satire when it comes to patriotic government movies.

@VictorRomeo1917 2 месяца назад

Loved it from day one - Michael Ironside & Clancy freakin' Brown, c'mon now.

@purefoldnz3070 3 месяца назад

They still havent properly adapted Starship Troopers. The closest thing to it would be probably Halo with its power armor or Edge of Tomorrow.

@raymondsmith6870 3 месяца назад

There was a couple of reasons that Starship Troopers failed at the box office and the first is being rated R so anyone under 18 could not go see this film. Which eliminated a lot of younger viewers. The next is the critics review bombed it(called journalism when they do it and bad when fans do it) when it opened as pro militarism propaganda and made for the far right chuds. Now the same critics have "reassessed" it as a great military satire making fun of jingoism. Which all the fans knew from day one before the clueless critics.

@kzbay1685 3 месяца назад

That is a top 5 all time movie in my preference.

@anthonyzepeda31 3 месяца назад

Starship Troopers is a fun movie. The tragedy is the sequels that came after.

@AdamDear-y9u 3 месяца назад

We watched it in Year 10 English class, I still don't know why :) But it was fun!

@troymash8109 2 месяца назад

It didn't go over my head. I'd read the book as a kid and that film bore ZERO resemblance to it's source. I like it for what it is, but was initially very disappointed.

@RadiusdynamicDemo77-rw8vu 3 месяца назад

Saw this on the big screen and those arachnid warriors were freaking scary.😂 Amazing cgi for the time.

@henokhsatrio8804 3 месяца назад

Johnny Rico!!!

@williamsmith8790 2 месяца назад

Because even in the 90s they should have had the power suits.

@jeffnettleton3858 3 месяца назад

Who edited the title? It's Starship, one word, Troopers. Starship Troopers.

@Danny-hj2qg 3 месяца назад

Sargent Rico!

@aleksoctop 3 месяца назад

these last 10 years really show how media illiterate most moviegoing audiences in the states really are

@garyv2498 3 месяца назад

When ST came out I saw it at the theater. Might have been opening weekend. I was 19 or 20. I remember thinking it was okay but nothing great. Looking back, I took it at face value and missed the critique on fascism. I also remember a lot of the online community was kinda pissed because it was not faithful to the book.

@raymondsmith6870 3 месяца назад

The VFX crew back then didn't have the technology yet to do the power suits like they can today with CGI so the changes were made to accommodate the film tech of the day. Not the book but maybe a better film for it.

@deadbatterydepot 3 месяца назад

I want to do a new star ship troopers movie, with you as the lead. I be getting alot of money together, hopefully sooner then later

@TJ-sq4rn 3 месяца назад

If you haven't seen the Cinematics of Starcraft and Starcraft 2 - you should..

@WKWenzEnterprises 2 месяца назад

Starship troopers is great, but I have mixed feelings about it as I would love to have a faithful adaptation of the book made.

@bocagoodtimes1460 3 месяца назад

It's one of the greatest movies ever made! Cast is perfect! Carnage and nudity! 5 stars! :)

@nickarmstrong6080 2 месяца назад

I was so clueless back when this movie came out I didn’t realize that it was (at least in significant part) a parody. I thought it was supposed to be taken seriously as drama and I thought it was the most ridiculous piece of garbage I had ever seen.

@petergabriel8448 3 месяца назад

I guess the European sensibility hadn't taken root in the States yet. Roger Ebert seriously called out the movie for promoting fascism.

@sampahumeoli 3 месяца назад

and he was from buenos aires lol

@JessieTheBeagle 3 месяца назад

It is a cheesy film wrong on so many levels. But it's that kind of wrong that makes it so great to watch. It is the prefect cheese.

@cristinacorrea2994 16 дней назад

I always loved this movie since I first watched it as a kid still till this day but diz was my first female crush and I always cry at her fate lol #carmensuckslol

@alexbelfor9451 3 месяца назад

MI made him the man he is today.

@AlbertoGarcia-wd7sc 2 месяца назад

Because it took that long for people to understand that it was a satire of fascism, imperialism, authoritarian societies, etc. Something curious considering Verhoeven already did that in the much beloved Robocop but people tend to be too literal.

@GaryGoRound-to7ld 3 месяца назад

I went to the theater to see and thought it was a great movie...

@thatsjarrod1965 3 месяца назад

I loved every second from day 1. I didn't know folks didn't till love it till the d-bag Heinlein crowd started whining on the internet. Shout out to my guy Dwayne who's a trooper on the VHS cover!

@ComicBookGuy420 3 месяца назад

You want to live forever?

@nr875 3 месяца назад

He lived next door to my best friend growing up with his wife and new baby. Dropped her like a hot potato after this film came out. So nice guy sure but a movie star like all others.

@TBullsGhost 3 месяца назад

Yeah coz only movie stars split from their spouses

@nr875 2 месяца назад

@@TBullsGhost no lots of people cut and run when they make it big.

@bradl8887 3 месяца назад

When 95% of the "fans" are actually making fun of you and you have no idea it's mockery.

@PNWOutdoorsman509 3 месяца назад

Let’s be honest: it was made by a director who didn’t bother to even read the book. All he knew was that he wanted to mock the book because he mistakenly thought the book (again, which he didn’t read) was fascist. He made up a straw man and boy did he beat the shit out of the straw man, but he missed absolutely everything that made the book a sci-fi classic. If you haven’t read the book, just one big example: the core of the Mobile Infantry was a suit of powered armor with tactical nuclear bombs. One Starship Trooper, by himself, could wipe out a city. A huge portion of the book was an analysis of how you could trust such power to one man, how you would train such a man, and what values a society would inherently need to do it. Absolutely NONE of that was in the movie.

@cdjhyoung 3 месяца назад

Thank You! That is exactly my reaction to the movie. Starship Troopers is a classic book written by possibly the best of the SyFy authors we've had. The movie may be entertaining but beyond the title there isn't much content in movie drawn from the book.

@arnedomi 3 месяца назад

What did the movie satirize?

@badbirdkc 3 месяца назад

Military propaganda and patriotism.

@francesopintore2073 3 месяца назад

For me it is still an Aliens rip off.

@RC19786 3 месяца назад

cult classic

@johnhodgson4591 3 месяца назад

The Movie was not even close to the book. The Title was the only thing that matched the book.

@ilzfuckup 3 месяца назад

Both are good what's the issue

@easypeasy2938 3 месяца назад

Who says Starship Troopers is "beloved?" It's still a big pile of steaming dog poo.

@al-bot1094 2 месяца назад

Most people don't understand the movie. Republicans probably cheer the humans on.

@christianayalacruz1095 3 месяца назад

JUST finished watching Starship Troopers again like 20 minutes ago while this was being posted. Wild coincidence. LOVE that movie!

@Reticuli 3 месяца назад

I bought into it and got what they were going for exactly from the moment I saw it in 1997, but I also popped a pseudoephedrine right before walking in and drank a lot of Dr Pepper during.

@MkVenner1975 3 месяца назад

Sleepy Hollow is one of my favourite films.

@jaybyhop 3 месяца назад

I've always loved this movie. It gets better every viewing.

@AbeStephan Месяц назад

I fell in love with the movie since I got the McDonald's value meal deal Starship Troopers VHS tapes release

@DaneelGiskard-f8d 3 месяца назад

I've got to admit that I was confused about what the movie was going for when I first watched it. I just remember thinking the costumes and sets looked really generic and corny; which even then I recognized was intentional, but all the actors played it straight like they were in a legitimate Sci-Fi action movie, so it was a bit of an enigma to me for a while. I was also a teenager with no access to the internet at the time, so that probably had a lot to do with my confusion.