why starbound LOST. 

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​@@mixednarwhalit worked!

I really recommend looking more into the modding community, stuff like frackin univerae completely overhauls the game and was everyone's go-to, until they realised the aurhor was just stealing all his content. Also, starbound's beta is usually seen as the superior version because it has no story shoved into it and better survival mechanics like hunger and temperature.

Oh yeah, also updates were made to intentionally break all the mods. Specifically all vanilla modded items, they're incredibly easy to make.

the system loved this so yeah same

They wiped all the gear I earned and my ship when they did a big update. They got rid of hours of work. I still played it after that. It just sucked though. They made it not function right. I can't explain it

@@MrBubbyG_Official Saves breaking on sufficiently big updates is completely normal and expected. That said, they could've handled it better. The solution, to clarify, would not be to avoid breaking saves, it would be to keep around broken saves rather than wiping them; and to allow players to roll back to older versions to continue playing them.

I can't be mad at the dev, as many dev come and go because chucklefish refused to pay them, which lead to inconsistency, say Giraffe Update, we have wacky abilities, compared to full release Take the blame to Chucklefish for this one. I hope someone/a team will bring this better someday

wasn't that because they, didn't pay the devs?

now this is how you provide criticism

Yeah it's crazy. I can't think of many games I've played were the first build I got my hands on was the best and it just got worse and worse lmao

@@DFlaminberryCubeWorld

This. It was so much more fun when the temperature mechanic was in the game. It felt so cozy digging a snow cave, popping down a tent and a campfire, and going out from your camp and coming back to eat and warm up. The moss that try to add that mechanic back just lose something in the attempt.

yessss, I loved those early alphas, so much promise and potential that vanished.

Finding some crazy ass planet with weird stuff and showing it to all my friends was the highlight of the experience honestly

I knew you would be here, Chippy. I love your videos!

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Not to mention how they gutted 75% of the content that was *already there* for 1.0

Yeah that's rough. I think at the end of the day they just shouldn't have tried to be so visually similar. Starbound is a good game in its own right but it just begged a comparison and lacked so much content as opposed to Terraria.

Exactly this. I was so excited for the game and followed the dev logs closely for so long. The game’s Early Access launch just really disappointed and by the time the game started to become what was advertised, I had moved on.

One of my favorite aspects of early Starbound was the randomized creatures. At first, the planets are exciting, but eventually you see the differences are minimal. But the monsters? They changed the most. I found myself eventually going to planets just to see what lurks on it... Then they, for progression, MOSTLY axed it and placed generic mobs that will reliably drop [item here] so the player can always get it. That sucks. I'd much rather have a bestiary that I can search for [mobs that drop (item)] and breeding mechanics. I like the idea of a randomized monster making me say: "Woah, this drops THREE of [item]? I need to make a cool farm here!". As this video states, the lack of planet to planet diversity really hurt it's focus on exploration. Give me randomized food too!

I played in early access as well from pretty early on, and I'm pretty sure this feature was never actually added. The flavor text on the items implied that it worked like this, but I don't remember it actually doing so, and I remember the devs being against any actual differences between play experience between the races.

Same with castle crashers 😔

I love FTL. It's one of my favorite roguelikes of all time.

as a space game nerd, i dont really feel like its forgotten. Most spacer know it exists and or plays it

i feel like it has a core fanbase still, just not a super big one

FTL may not be well known, but is still an amazing game, the soundtrack is one of my favorites

What's ur modlist?

@@girrafecrappinuryard I got a bunch, but here are the more important ones: -Frackin' Universe and Frackin' interface are a complete overhaul of the game. This one has stupid amounts of content. Almost too much even lmao. Start here. Also add Frackin' Music and Frackin' Races. -Enhanced Storage (QoL) -More planet info mods (several of em exist for different purposes) -XS Mechs Vehicle Edition (adds mechs into the game) -Fixed Critters (fixes creatures not being able to climb up a single block) -bk3k's inventory (huge inventory increase with tabs such. Super useful for all the stuff in Frackin' Universe. Has a reskin and UI mod to go with it.) -Extra Zoom Levels -Xbawks Character Extender (adds 36+ spaces for extra races in the character creation menu) And then a ton of extra races and an embarrassing amount of midi files for playing musical instruments in game

Same.

A lot of mod from this game are furries.

I love Starbound to this day, and it’s so sad that the game was held back from the potential it could’ve achieved, and more or less abandoned by Chucklefish. Overall, I do think Starbound is still an okay game on its own, but thankfully the modding community for this game is amazing, and acquiring mods is as easy as subscribing to them on the Steam workshop. Just about everything I could ask for in this game, there’s a mod for it-whether it be new expansions, planets, music, races, dungeons, or even just a simple mod to get rid of a pet peeve. For me, modding alone pushes Starbound from an okay game with a beautiful artstyle and interesting concept, all the way up to one of my absolute favorite games to play. It also gives you the option to simply enjoy the game for what it is in its vanilla state, or spice things up and add some mods to customize and enhance your gameplay experience

Each race having their own crisis that they were having to delve into was such a neat idea, really made me feel like I could stumble upon a capital planet or a planet entirely owned by one of the races. Tossed away for one of the blandest stories I've ever seen, with each race just feeling like little more then a skin on "Npc town small" and about as much narrative impact.

Yeah. Instead of refining the survival mechanics they just completely removed them. That's what killed the game for me. I don't know if that's a popular opinion, but I enjoyed fighting for survival and properly gearing up for difference environments. Without that and the generification of planet generation, it just felt like there was no point to any of it but the boss battles I guess.

Sounds very familiar to some other games i know. Like Cubeworld. Loved the early version but then the dev kinda went dark for years and when it eventually released it felt more like a downgrade rather then a update.

Who would have guessed that devs who just copy trend games but with a diffetent coat have no passion. Back then it was Terraria and Isaac, now it's all roguelike and metroidvanias

Yes< I miss pre-story Starbound. There was so much freedom and discovery .

I think I recall in the old story, Big Ape was not only a real person, but involved in some sort of galaxy wide conspiracy with high ranking members of the other races. Not only that but the Agarans (mushroom people you occasionally came across) were apparently this massive threat accprding to logs you could find. That was so much more interesting than the end product, it’s like they lobotomized the story.

@toaster9922 THIS, I definitely recall the mushroom people. I'm not sure if their codexes were kept in the final product. And a fight against THE Big Ape in some sort of Dr. Wily esque machine/mecha would have been amazing, along with chasing down his multi species cohorts as some sort of side story campaign. Hell, they should have taken a page out of Mass Effect and have you help the other races with their dilemmas (order depending on race chosen with Humans being the final race to help given their big bad alien threat) to form a coalition to fight the space cthulu and have the post game be against the mushroom menace and other galactic threats (maybe flesh out the ancients' story for additional story/game content in the future). The story we got was indeed lobotomized for a washed down UN-ish sci-fi story with no unique storyline for each race. It hurts me knowing I stuck through this game's development from the start only to get duped. The only thing that could restore this game's original story is a massive mod akin to Terraria's Calamity mod.

​@@toaster9922Honestly, this idea of Agarans being a "menace" is so lame. These funky shroom people just don't look particularly threatening, and no amount of "tell, don't show" logs can change that for me. Fungi can be easily spun into highly effective horror, like in Nausicaa of the Valley of the wind, or at least the Last of Us. Agarans aren't that, and I don't think they can become that without a full overhaul, not limited to some codexes.

Im pretty sure the original concept was for each race to have their own entrypoint to the story. That would have been way better... I'm also wishing new story would have been modded in, especially for modded races. The game is honestly an RPG with sandbox elements, but the inflexibility of the main story diminishes its replayability as an RPG

​​@@user-id2ln9di9kThey deleted beta dungeons with the Agarans, that some mod I played with ended up restoring... Its not only "tell, don't show", the moment you discover their floor has a hidden entrance and below the friendly appearance there are cages, "compliance" tools, parts of florans strewn around, and "eggs" of spores that seem to be hatching from their bodies. And then you realize they gave you food. It was unnerving stuff.

Oh yeah! That's a thing! I remember I had to actually go to my game files and delete a ton of data from the first generated world to even have a new world to go to.

Same here, early Starbound was better Starbound. When they started adding story the base game just degraded due to restructuring

I was about to make a comment about this exact thing! Early starbound stood out as a much more unique game in terms of gameplay, then reworks came to Monster generation, limiting variety, reworks of the abilities, What I missed most is attack frames for monsters, rather than damage on contact with an entity, only took damage while they attacked, so you could walk through them after a strike, TBH, the game had a MASSIVE tonal/gameplay shift, and if anything, i;d pin that as the primary cause of the games death. Killed its momentum dead in its tracks, me and my friends regularly want to play starbound, but not as it exists, but as it was in alpha. Just killed our interest in the game

You pretty much described my first experience of Starbound. The first level or two just weren't that fun for me.

Skill issue

yeah, sadly i played to long to refund, one of the reason I despise this game

Starbound was so much better before its full release because of the story

Theres very few things I don't like about Starbound I wish the races didn't feel like you were just playing a different skin, like maybe make the one that literally says it lives underwater breathe underwater, perhaps the ape one is a lot stronger something to vary each playthrough The only problem I've had with Starbound is it lacks massive replayability but it's story I liked it I replayed occasionally, however mainly when I play it I just do a survival playthrough and see how long they last try to set up something that will be permanent, however it would be more fun if the story missions were maybe a bit longer maybe they encourage exploration more however I can't fault the game for that cuz I still enjoyed my time playing it and I still enjoy my time playing it today, Mainly just modding in custom races to play as however those don't have impact on the gameplay only on the cosmetics which would be the only thing I change and I have modded that in as well

The story in a sandbox game is unnecessary, but it would be much more bearable if I could skip the damn cutscenes

@@Knit0706 also they ruined the combat. In beta mobs would only deal damage when they were in an attack animation, but at some point they basically turned all the animals into goombas from super mario bros who would always damage you on contact

And I don't blame Barone for distancing himself, he's got ethics, not to mention originally made the entire freaking game himself so he knows how much time and effort those kids put in, personally.

Can you point to microtransactions or other monetization schemes present in Starbound to back up your claim of the lead developer being profit driven?

​@@TheAlison1456 They don't exist because he wasn't fleecing the players, but the creators contributing to the game. The entire last section of the video is dedicated to how he'd manipulate younger artists and devs, and take advantage of their passion to get free labor out of them. He'd let them think they're working towards getting a proper job, only to move on to the next passionate fan as soon as they ask to be paid for their work.

@@squiddler7731 I see. I disagree, but I understand now. Someone who's actually profit driven would bother paying developers so they can, you know, profit later.

@@TheAlison1456 Cause he didn't see them as actual developers or employees, just fans he could exploit. Just like how a game filled with microtransactions doesn't care if it alienates players because there's hundreds more where that came from, he didn't care about alienating the fans he manipulated cause he figured there'd always be more. Plus like... even with real developers getting an actual paycheck, a company is still going to be motivated to get more work out of them for less money. Greed is greed, and if a person or business is greedy they'll do whatever they can get away with to save or make more money

Early outpost was honestly kinda even good. The amount of people in it was very limited and it itself was small and eventually it felt more like a friend group than anything. Release outpost is a whole big thing

This is exactly my problem with the game. It changed so much between now and the beta versions I played. I loved the open-ended exploration and general sense of isolation while playing and they got rid of all of that in favor of a fucking story.

I remember seeing this game as a kid in the mojan launcher. And i thought it was so similair in gameplay and art that I literally thought the same terraria devs were reskinning the game to capture a different audience

@@pchris Try the Story Disabler mod. It silently completes all the story quests for you, so anything locked behind the story is unlocked. The NPC dialogue is also changed to imply that someone else did the story a while ago and that your character is just some rando instead of Space Jesus

As someone who supported their kickstarter, some of the reasons I stopped playing after beta was that they removed so much things, and failed to deliver on many of their promises. I remember that each race was supposed to have a unique bonus on their race armor that made them stand apart of eachother, like Avians having better stats with Staves, Florians being good with melee, Novakids supposedly had higher energy regen than anyone else. There were dietary restrictions like only Apes could eat bananas and Florians only being able to eat meat. Each race was supposed to have a unique opening, not just the Earth exploding due to eldritch forces. If I remember correctly, the ship pet was also supposed to be able to come with you on your journeys instead of just sitting in your ship, being cute. When the game released, the game didn't have mechs, even though the beta had mechs. The mechs werent re-added until after 3 BIG updates, but it was already too late for my friends and I because we already slogged through the story once, and none of us wanted to slog through again. Starbound over promised a bunch of things that could of been implemented if Chucklefish wasnt so busy screwing over multiple people who worked on the game and wasting the good will of volunteers.

@@theredgoblin562 " I literally thought the same terraria devs were reskinning the game to capture a different audience" It's been a long time since the days of the closed alpha, and my memory is foggy. But IIRC the Lead dev on Starbound was the former lead artist of terraria. He went by Ty, which I think was short for Tyuri or something like that. Edit: Yeah Tiyuri formerly worked on Terraria and founded Chcuklefish "Tiy is the founder of Chucklefish and the lead developer of Starbound. He previously worked at Re-Logic as Terraria's main sprite artist until about January, 2012." from the Starbound Wiki.

Aye, you don't even need a special launcher for the mods to run, they just need to be compatible with the game version's features.

@@VelaiciaCreator lucky us that they no longer update the game then, mods will never become incompatible 🤨🤨

@@efffegrhhdhddd2695 Unironically an upside. I would rather the devs fully abandon the game so those who actually care about it can continue their work

I highly disagree that Minecraft is a game meant, or made for modding

​@@cuddlecakes7153 Sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of all these modpacks I've played.

Yeah, my biggest issue was just that the game didnt really seem to have much of an experience in mind. When I tried it for the first time (after final update), I quickly understood SB wasnt Terraria, and I was fine with that. But there really didnt seem to be much of a focus after the first steps, and it very quickly became mundane and uninteresting. Terraria is kinda amazing, because it connects the freedom with progression, exploratoin, adventure, combat, building, NPCs, in a pretty seamless way. It outgrew ""2D Minecraft" quite quickly, to the point where Minecraft seemed to take inspiration from Terraria now (not that thats a bad thing!).

Yeah i agree, currently playing and im 30 hrs in, played back in the days be4 they added all the forced story stuff that is so random and just tells you "scan this objects of the lifeform so i can gather infos to sent you to the location (boss area/and fight) and it seems like that just repeats, and the pure thing of just throwing everything at you excpecting you to know everything like your ship, matter manipluator upgrades, tool upgrades etc etc.. like you say, terraria feels like a more connected exp.@@termitreter6545

Same, its heart breaking

Thankfully the modding scene is still going strong! Just wish people would realize that and make more content lol

@@DJ-fb9cf I agree

Right on the money with the contribution scrubbing. A lot of the time though, it was an incomplete chunk of work and the dev in question being out the door meant that it wouldn't get finished without risking breaking it all. So various features changed or were removed. There's still a ton of things from the exploited though. If they scrubbed literally every portion, you would have something akin to a half-eaten corpse.

From what I got back then, they decided to simplify a lot of stuff when they saw how much time and effort they would have to use to create all assets. And the creature-parts system was never working as imagined and a mess.

@@SolidFake Yet the mess was 'better' in many cases, so either way it was a bad decision Mods add a lot of that feel back into the game, and it really reminds one just how much more interesting the 'early access' versions were despite lacking content.

I followed dev quite closely, they simplified creatures because they wanted the gameplay aspect to work. The first more diversified versions had many problems and didn't really add anything to the game (à la No Man's Sky).

@@Kourikargou I played the game before and after the simplification of creatures and if that really was their goal then they failed big time. First system was unpredictable and produced a lot of weird creatures with very random abilities. Every time I beamed down to a new planet I had to be careful because it was hard to predict what those critters would do and some of the abilities were clearly overpowered compared to others, so you had to watch out for them. While the system felt unpolished it was also FUN and created small bits of emergent gameplay, when I had to change how I move around so I won't get killed. After simplification generated creatures would very rarely get any interesting abilities, instead those abilities were reserved for predefined unique monsters that had chance of spawning on all of the systems. Monster abilities were balanced and simplified; some were completely removed. Soon I learned how to deal with most of the unique monsters. Generated creatures were no longer scary without their hard to predict power. Any surprise or thrill when beaming down to a new planet was gone. After that I stopped caring about monsters at all. If their goal was to "add more to the game", then not only did they fail, but they also managed to remove one of the things I liked in the first place.

Same. I downloaded a demo of some game on Switch the other day and when I saw the Chucklefish logo I went "lol no" and immediately uninstalled the demo.

stardew valley is great though

@@LunamrathP What game was the demo for?

@@nidhogg00 Eastward.

​@@jonash.8139and since the allegations, Stardew Valley has cut ties with Chucklefish and is now self-published

Curtis Schweitzer seems like a really cool guy. I'm sad his work isn't receiving much attention any more, he still composes amazing soundtracks to this day, although for much smaller indie games

I messaged him on a composer forum when I saw him there and told him how much this soundtrack inspired me as a kid, and that I still sometimes listen to it to fall asleep to this day. He responded in less than a day. Really friendly guy. 😁

I scrolled down just to find a single comment mentioning Frackin Universe, it entirelyyyy overhauls the game into much more of a sandbox and expands upon a lot of what was already there

@@yvngukiyo7128 yup, this is why I like to call starbound a minecraft with terraria looks vannilla terraria is not much different from moded one it has more things in it but overall gameplay stay the same meanwhile starbound and minecraft can completly change its playstyle depending on mods instaled

You might have just made me wanna try it again I was in on it in 2013 playing the early access and couldn’t stand it but if mods make it better I might try it out I still go back to terraria a few times a year lol

frackin universe isnt very fun, thats why modding has failed to keep the game alive. the only big mod isnt even that good.

@@Dmgx32 You are just wrong,the mods are what kept the game alive to this day it wouldnt have a community and a few thousand people playing each month if the mods wherent there. The issue is that most mods didnt exist when the game was at its peak but there are many cool mods that enhance the exploration and creative side of the game.

There are good mobility options

There's a quirk with grapple hooks that allows you to catapult yourself. You shoot at the ground 2-3 tiles in front of you. Then walk forward, jump and hold up at the same time. The jump stops drag from the ground and pressing up reels in the hook, which causes it to turn from a rope into a solid stick at such a short distance. This will shoot you forward over the hook due to the rope no longer following you and trying to pull you in instead. If you jump again as you're passing over the grappling point you'll be shot forwards a considerable distance.

Mobility seemed great to me. My biggest issue was the automation features : You have freakin spaceships, tech gear, magic, but you'll harvest wheat by hand until you die. Maybe mods fixed it though, in which case such mod would be a must for the game

@@eglaiosdeminecraft9259 never thought about it until reading your comment but the lack of farming automation even later into the game is really weird

@@eglaiosdeminecraft9259 Frackin'Universe fixes that. They have item transfer devices, and machinery that farms, mines, collects water, etc. You can totally set up an entirely autonomous farm, the only limitation is you have to be near it for it to work, because of hard-coded engine limitations. But still, that's more than Terraria has. not that I'm bashing Terraria, but I think people are selling FU short.

honestly, that's actually how I thought of Starfield being a 3D Starbound lmao

@@dodiezero eh idk if they are similar enough. I like the 2D aspect and how RPG like it feels.

Like a unique storyline/campaign and intro cinematic for each race?

No man's sky

@@themooniscoming 3D

You don't need to complete the whole story, just the part where you need to fix your ship. After that you can go anywhere if you have fuel. Which can be bought or found on any moon. The only thing completing the story unlocks is convenience.

@@Queensarrow But in the Betas, you started on your ship. After fixing the drive and fueling the ship (in earlier versions you could burn wood in the reactor) you were free to go wherever you wanted, and planets back then had so much more variety. There was so much to do, and even boss battles you could control with creativity and by finding cool and legendary weapons. The game was fun. Until 1.0.

@@Tchud my point was you still need to fix your ship before you could go to a different planet, you still need to kill a boss in order to do that. In the beta it was the penguin, in the release it's the erchius horror.

@@Queensarrow Yes, I'm even playing Glad Giraffe right now where you fight the penguin and the Horror, but you are still free to roam the star systems. Difference is, you don't have an old lady as a quest giver, and all the lore and differences between races is still there. In the official release, there are restrictions on where you can go unless you go through a storyline that is forced upon you. This is the difference, besides the lack of variety between planets and biomes. The difference between 1.0 and the betas are startling.

@@Tchud where can't you go?

There's gotta be a way to make it more difficult to resort to "just going elsewhere", to force the player to care about the terrain of a planet they've hand-selected. Getting players to settle down planetside, along with (or even instead of) making a home out of their ship, would probably improve the feel of the game. The fewer planets you can chew through in X amount of time, the more substantial those planets feel. Because... there's a lot to these planets, they're pretty big with a bunch of structures in them, but you can traverse the surface and then hop away really easily, giving the impression that they're all surface-level. They're also sort of all homogenous blends of all types of biomes once you get underground, and changing that up would make them feel a lot better, more individual and distinct from one another, between planet types and even within planet types. There's so much potential with this game!!

Oh wow I had no idea that FU was that big. I've only ever played it briefly once, whereas with Terraria I've been way more engaged with the modding community. I did watch an FU playthrough on YT but clearly that didn't have everything! Sorry to brush over the point then! I'm glad you still liked the video despite its flaw, and thank you heaps for pointing it out! :D

I strongly agree with this comment, the amount that FU adds is insane. Also the amount that it alters progression really shakes gameplay up a ton from unmodded.

​@@progress_games I agreed with most of the points assuming you wouldn't mention the modding scene, but as soon as you did I was waiting for FU to be mentioned as a massive pro for Starbound. Missing that was a *huge* miss for the video, but I do understand how it might've happened. FU alone is absolutely massive, and I personally dumped hundreds of hours into building out even a single one of my modded Player Stations. FU+Station mods turn Starbound into a behemoth very similar to modded Minecraft. A giant, programmable, self-sustaining space base with complex farms, alien containment, colonists and storage systems (shoutout to the amazing Digital Storage mod) really takes Starbound to another level and makes it feel more like Satisfactory meets Subnautica than a Terraria clone as it's often judged as. Terraria's building by comparison almost feels decorative by comparison (which isn't a complaint at all, I love it too). That's not to mention FU's quests, the new planets and progression system, the new hub, and general major improvements to pretty much every aspect of the vanilla game. I do think vanilla Terraria is a much, much better game than vanilla Starbound, and even modded has much more replay value. But in terms of playtime for a single modded run I think Starbound has Terraria beat, even if there isn't much reason to go through it all again from the beginning multiple times. I agree with the original commenter though, you did an overall good job on the video and I'd have no real major criticism if it weren't for the fact that Calamity was compared to "just some qol mods". Just don't want to see Starbound's modding scene get overlooked because it genuinely is fantastic even if it is smaller overall. This is all coming from a place of love as someone who considers both games to be their top 3. Definitely recommend revisiting the game with FU installed from the beginning. It might completely change your opinion of the game.

Interesting I'll install starbound again to play with this mod, but the video talks about the games themselves and I believe mods are more of a reflection of the community rather than the game.

@@progress_gamesFU is only that “big” because the dev stole 95% of the code from smaller mod devs and deliberately made all of their mods incompatible with FU to kill their player base. Also the “content” is thousands of hours of AFKing so that you get research points to unlock crafting recipes. “Gameplay” in Frackin Universe is 99% bloat and the only cool content was stolen without permission.

Downside is it doesn't utilize its soundtrack. "I Was The Sun (Before It Was Cool)" plays in two tiny rooms in the game and nowhere else.

The soundtrack is criminally cheap on Steam, it's crazy

@@Tinkatube Wait.... what about the rest of the soundtrack? I remember playing Frackin' Universe, and they had it- and I'm playing 2015 Glad Giraffe before the 1.0 wipe. Is the soundtrack gone from the official release?

@@Tchud I don't mean the soundtrack si gone entirely. I mean the soundtrack is underutilized. Its best songs are left to play in only a few places.

Scan everything!!!

Not only that, but the fact you had to jump from planet to planet just for certain specific materials, never really exploring every world that much since your only incentive is to get the mats to craft gear. The whole exploring space turned into more of a tedious task than just exploring for fun.

they were straight up put on the block to make a functional ish game in a short amount of time because higher ups said so and it was the leadership that lacked direction and eventually just wanted something out nevermind anything else. and for the amount of time they had. they found something and crunched hard on that. its sad to see thats how it turned out.

What about their dog? Could you elaborate on that?

Even then, stuff like legendary weapons, dungeons, and soils were varied. I loved digging and customizing my bases with different kinds of soils and bricks. After taking over an Apex facility, I would kit it out with furniture and equipment, waiting for the day after 1.0 when I would explore the universe looking for bigger and better places to build my bases. So I kept everything on my ship until the final update... Nope. Lost everything in the wipe, and the wonderful game I was playing got replaced by a generic story that was forced on you. Furthermore, the variety I was looking forward to was gone. Planetary exploration became a chore. The Starbound I loved to play is no more. But I'm glad to have gotten a copy of Glad Giraffe so I could live that dream again. 1.0 is nowhere like it was during the 2013-2015 development phases.

Nah, I played in 2014, and then you had survival, temperature and hunger. You could put wood in your ship's reactor. I'm playing a version of Glad Giraffe where you mine for shards to make fuel, then off you go. That game was so much fun. Planets had more variety, you had the lore, and legendary weapons and skills. All gone. But I was able to find copies going back to Koala, but the page got taken down. So all those Beta copies are gone, unless there is a way you can find them. Those were the best versions, before 1.0 came along and ruined it.

To be fair, this is because Terraria is still getting active updates, if it wasn't you wouldn't hear so much about it cause people don't normally talk without news

oh my god, i remember that fucking bonehammer! i fucking loved that shit!

I was thinking the same thing. My favorite version of Starbound was well before 1.0 released, before they shoved the story into everything and made it linear. Yeah, it was a less complete game, but it was a *lot* more fun. I'd like to see a well-modded version of the game built on that framework, instead of 1.0

@@rapidrotation it's unlikely you'll see a proper framework / Mod API developed for previous versions as that requires pirating the previous versions, which are likely extremely rare to get. it's at times like these i wish steam would let you play previous versions of games.

@@pelontrixdoesn’t steam have that feature already?

Ohh, definitely! The Betabound mod focuses on bringing back stuff from Starbound's past and implementing them in the current game, improving them to make it seem as though they were never removed and instead got love and attention as the game was developed

Yeah, the skippable cutscenes mod is basically necessary

Maybe a choice based story to add incentive to replay

Nah

​@@theanarchonazbolinquisitionI have to disagree I personally think it has a lot of potential still if they would just update it I put the story kind of aside and work on the features It has so much it can still do with a space theme I mean better Max proper flight fully customizable ships another game mode even that is just open survival on a scale of No Man's sky even Oh no man's sky had a big comeback this game very easily could as well

the modding community has its own giant beast of a controversy with it. there arent nearly as much mods then there should be, and you can thank fracking universe for that. strong arming smaller creators and stifling creativity if their mods arent "compatible". i hardly call that a healthy modding community when its dictated with an iron fist by such a mod.

@@jessisthejessis1823 That is a fair point. With FU revamping everything in vanilla and most smaller mods being something made for vanilla it can be a bit of an issue when you combine them. Even when there are some mods that are either FU compatible or add-ons that make other mods compatible its quite hard to release a bigger mod than just a couple of items.

technically Spore gave us the Avali. Starbound just made them way more accessible

@@StygianIkazuchi Really!? Wow.

@@RaethFennec Yeah from what I understand, the avali were originally made in Spore waaaay back. Then they were recreated in Starbound and picked up the popularity they now have.

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Yeah I had a really similar experience with it. The story was just a little generic and far too linear for my liking. But I don't think that's necessarily telling of Starbound's quality, rather it shows how appearing so similar to Terraria brought over a whole lot of Terraria players who play Terraria for it's lack of story. That freedom in Terraria is awesome and it feels so odd to have those constraints.

Except Terraria does, because bosses will automatically spawn and kill you as you flail about helplessly. This starts with Night having mods which force you to live in a box or get armor. You are constantly forced into a state of needing to gather stuff to survive the next big event. If you want to chill you simply can not.

@@Buglin_Burger7878well terraria does this in a suttle nudge methoid of, it wants you to progress into its farther content and personally not in a bad way. starbound for the most part if ya know what to do you can prity much vibe check the game after doing the intro shinigans.

@@progress_games So basically ya’ll misled yourselves into thinking you were playing space terraria instead of what it actually was which was a story-driven game.

Agree. Its incredibly frustrating how much Starbound tries to feed you their story. The most fun i've ever had in Starbound was trying to rush end game equipment ignoring everything story-related after fixing the ship, almost in speedrun fashion! It really is a shame how hard the game tries to stop players from realizing they're actually free to do whatever they want...

Yeahhh but frackin also had a lot of issues too I've heard, esp of it's creator

I didnt even know this until now, but you can fish fir crates that drop the water walking boots

Me trying to find the lava charm in my large world:

They still have the creature generation, but the pre-made creatures actually became way more unique than the generated ones.

ONI is a gem. I honestly believe it should be patched for every language and introduced to kids worldwide to familiarize them with physics. It's fun, cute, mildly addictive and educational all at once without coming off as patronizing. That's hard to pull off. Hats off to Klei.