I really liked Dr. Evas' perspective and contribution. Whilst I agree on Ben's point on the joys of marriage and motherhood and how it's definitely worth pursuing for any woman, I think the church has definitely shackled womanhood with being a wife and a mother so much so that when it does not come as easily to some of our lovely sisters, they start having a complete identity crisis. Motherhood is beautiful, being a wife to a loving partner is so precious but it's not the be all end all of womanhood. If those things do not happen for some of us, may we have the boldness to step up and lavish in the other glorious parts of being a woman.
1. My question is if a man is not attached to money, how can he then provide for the family without money considering that everything in life revolves around money? 2.. Society paint Single Women like it was their fault, i am not denying that some women choose to he Single but there are some women who were never chosen by anyone 3. When I did Ministry Studies, they said there are some people whom God gave a gift of singleness but in some cultures especially the African Culture they refuse that gift that it does not exist and demonise the person. The Pastors will be trying to cast out what God ordained. 4. Some women like what you said were indeed traumatized whilst they were young be it sexually abused or Molestation and some through seeing their mothers, Sisters, Aunties being abused, that's another fact that causes some women to stay single forever. 5. While marriage is put on a pedestal, i have nursed many elderly people who survived those marriages but severely psychologically traumatized by the kind of marriage they persevered to keep. Such women in the eyes of the Society are considered Successful. Those are the same kind of women who raised daughters who saw them struggling and by staying in an unhealthy marriage they affected their daughters forever. 6. I do agree that Some men are the reason why the world is at this stage where many women are choosing to stay Single. Let us not forget that many women across the world were House Wives before, but due to World Wars, Oppression of Women, Abuse of Women forced women to go to the workplace to work for themselves. And when Women tested money and independence they are now contemplating on choosing going back to be oppressed again or looking after themselves without someone oppressing them. 7. We are at a stage where men are losing confidence because they now see women doing their tasks even more than they would do it as providers, buying cars, building houses and that alone is making Men lose Confidence and some men to the extent of killing women due to Jelousy (failing to handle a successful Woman) Men don't know what to do anymore 8. Let us also not forget that though God said Men are providers, God did not say Women are weak. The world is now shocked to see women doing things on their own meaning to say God gave them the ability when Men failed to do their tasks in harmony. The Bible says nothing happens in life without God allowing it to happen. Again Paul said to those who want to marry do marry but it's not easy. (Cor 7: 8-9 warning & choice) So people are allowed to choose what they feel comfortable to do NOT what the Society thinks is right for them. God gave everyone a choice and to bear the consequency 9. Women when they go to Work operate using Masculine Power. The problem comes in when they go home to their husbands as musculine, they need to switch back to feminine energy when they arrive home otherwise the house will end up having two men and that is causing a problem. 10. Again some men are staying single if they grow up seeing their fathers being abused by their mothers and some end up in homosexuality. (Effects of abuse and domestic Violence) 11. Commenting on Success, let us be honest to say there is no success without money. And the Biblical definition of success is having a roof over your head, food to eat and being capable of raising your children comfortably. That needs money. So Adam needs to work as God commanded and if he doesn't, Eve will do it alone which is what is happening. 12: When Adam and Eve failed, God never forgave them but he punished them to suffer the Consequences. This period we are in, Adam failed Eve and Eve is trying to do it alone. Not because She wants to but she was pushed too far and is now showing Adam that your Rib, that part that was removed from you was the main part to make you complete. So Adam does not have confidence anymore but is so angry with Eve. (Final Solution to this World problem) Both men and Women need to humble themselves and learn to treat each other well for both genders need each other. And Women have a big role to play in raising Sons that will be good men that knows how to treat a woman right so that the problems won't persist. Society need to stop putting pressure on the boy child but to teach them that a Woman is their helper who can do more if well taken care of. Father's too need to play a big role in grounding their Sons and father's too need to be more involved in the lives of their daughters growing up so that they get used to healthy masculine energy and teaching them how to treat a man. Finally let us not also forget that not all women with children end up happy in their old age. When we critically analyse, one is not guaranteed to be happy with the children they have or husband one marries. Society has many blind spots worse in African Culture where we don't do critical analysis. There are many elderly parents in African villages/ towns who had children but with no one to help them in their vulnerable years Life Coach, Student Psychotherapist (Zimbabwean Woman based in Australia) I loved this topic when we discussed it in class. Blessings to you
I have listened to almost all the episodes of Reality Check but this particular conversation has been extremely powerful and eye opening. A number of powerful women have pursued career and finances at the expense of relationships. They end up being rejected by friends coz money has brought in arrogance, selfishness, cruelty name it. These behaviours and the pride money brings makes them suffer relational rejection and they end up rich lonely boss babes. So much for the money....lie!!! Huh!! So personally, I want to thank the three discussants for the wisdom and enlightenment they brought to this very important insightful conversation. Dr. Evas your usual mantra of the value of relationships came out strongly in today's conversation!!! ❤ I also wish to thank Mr Mwine for implicitly highlighting how he has a Proverbs 31 woman for a wife. Rachael thank you for modelling Christ and Biblical womanhood in your marriage.❤❤. Keep it up dear❤🎉
Let's agree that some men take the back sit when the woman provides for everything. Naturally its draining to a woman when she provides for everything. This directly affects her behavior especially when the partner relaxes and becomes a beneficiary of everything. This affects all core points of a marriage..
Ben is an intelligent Man, I recognise Rachael can't look straight at Ben for long, electricity shock suspected, one measure of deep love. Thank you people
I appreciate that the three of you are able to hold a discussion like this, respectfully of one another. Thank you! I enjoy speaking about topics like this in respectful dialogue.
Lovely conversation as usual. Mr. Mwine makes it difficult for the woman he is trying to communicate to to listen to him. So many great points naye Delivery could be better and his false placement of personal opinion for hard fact & universal truth is a little unsettling & probably needs to be caught. I'm glad I powered through the conversation regardless. I loved the overall ending. I've re-learnt a lot. Love you Dr.Evas & my lovely Rachel ❤.
What a great way to discuss such a sensitive topic. Thank you for celebrating and not belittling successful women. Ben you such a confident man that you are not threatened by your wife’s success, how refreshing to see.
Bambi Rach your are true definition of the proverb 31 woman. Some women when they become more successful than their husbands,they start to belittle them which is very wrong.
I lost my marriage because my husband couldn't control his ego towards my success to the extent that he would always be behind my decline, not supportive at all, " people stealing and destroying my business and finding him behind it"", I now want a family after 4years but scared of which partner now, so sad. Thank you for sharing and discussing issues people fear to talk about.❤
This was a serious reality check for me. I consider myself successful and I'm struggling. I've learned a lot from the episode. On the other hand, I like how Rachel blushes around Ben. The chemistry is undeniable 😂❤
Dr. Evas reminds me of Winnie Byanyima- when she speaks, you listen! But Evas is the softer part of Winnie! I hope my simplistic comparison doesn't demean any, for it is not intended to demean any!
Thank you very much for this episode: take home: money or wealth is not what defines us, or what makes us valuable; Luke 12:15, Thank you for inviting Mr.Mwine.
If there is one thing i have gotten out of this conversation is that a successful woman is one who pays attention to relationships. Well put doctor! Having said that, when in a relationship like marriage, success can look so different within it.
I have a problem with a man who doesnt make it his problem to ensure the financial well-being of his household. I think relying on your wife's provision for longer than necessary is wrong. Just like a woman is bothered by inability to concieve, it is inherent for a man to get bothered by his inability to provide. Does this mean there will be seasons when this is challenged? Ofcourse, but it is not the norm. I like the common joke that when a woman was entrusted with provision in the garden of Eden, the result has affected everyone of us for generations. It even required the son of God to come and deal with the after effects. It is not the norm. let's stop justifying failures in our God-given responsibilities
I like Dr. Evas point when she says first things first. That has always been my answer when asked on why I chose to stay home and raise kids first despite the economy. I will join the hustle when it's time, but now, the children need me.
I love Ben's openness to his shortfalls naye just asking u Ben don't u think u cld hv avoided some of them if probably u had prior discussed them with Rachel? The way Dr Evas simplifies this thing called life one wonders why we are stressed riyale..🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️. Thanks for the ministry Eeeeh obugalo bwa Rachel for the kameza..👏👏👏
I love the honesty of Mr. Mwine even when it comes to matters concerning men. This is just evidence of those who love Jesus & have humbled themselves enough to be used by Him
Amazing conversation!!! Very helpful. Thank you for the honest testimonies and life changing perspective on this topic. Also, beautiful lighting and sound: great improvement
This is so insightful. God created us as master pieces and placed each gender with power and authority for distinct but complementary roles. Let us all stay in our lane.
Wow!!! I like Mr. Mwiine. Racheal, you are so blessed to have a man who has reverence for the Lord. I like the way he refers to Gods word on any point! May the Lord hide your family in His wings.
What is surprising is that the men don't want the titles of women brought home, but the paycheck of a CEO. Very ironical, it is hard to do everything like a sit home woman.
Great topic & wonderful discussants. I agree with your submissions. First, boys have not been helped and nurtured to become men, there are very few positive male mentors to build this confidence in the boys with the right mindset. Second, society has glorified money beyond everything else and this has infected both the men’s and women’s minds to the extent that value and importance are measured in monetary terms. Last, women have become so insecure that their minds are always imagining that the men are always crafting evil schemes against them, sometimes right but sometimes wrong. That is the quagmire we find ourselves in, the men no longer responsible leaders and the women living in mistrust, always expecting trouble from the men 🤷🏽♂️
@ericmukyaddondwa173 You raise important points about the lack of positive male role models, the overemphasis on money, and the resulting mistrust between men and women. These issues contribute to a cycle of insecurity and miscommunication. Addressing them requires a broader cultural shift towards building trust, fostering positive role models, and valuing individuals beyond financial success.
Thank you Dr. Evas & the Mwines' for this. Can we have a chat on how to get our children to bond together. Yesterday, I had a chat with my children & I was hit hard despite thinking I had taken charge. I wanted to know how well my children know each other & when I asked one of them about the likes of the other, they said they don't know & that how would they know because everyone minds their own business; mbu that is how school trained them. It hit me hard because as a parent there is nothing I want the most than a strong, unbreakable bond among children. How can I achieve this bond among them?
Women We can be both successful financially and relationshipwise. It's a matter of being humble and knowing who we are, where we are heading and the kind of end we are going to have. Money just facilitates our daily ohuses.
We define success by the ability of women to persevere through challenging relationships with their husbands, even in situations involving infidelity or other difficulties. When these women confront these challenges and continue to work towards reconciliation and improvement in their relationships, we recognize this as a significant achievement.
I beg to disagree. 10 years later,he has not figured out how to provide for his family. I have a problem with that. His wife is the real MVP, not the husband
@@jeremiah08kush who told you he does not provide . he does but most importantly you might find he built there home and does the big thing and challenges come around always. that's the ego they were saying don't be too proud to say that. Most relationships survive on there wives in times of need . two are better than one has a fall back . thank you . don't tarnish some bodies guinuine testimony into a negative aspect .
@@jeremiah08kushMr. Mwiine is employed my dear, a good job, and he does provide where he can. He mentioned that he made some very bad money decisions in the past and it's the reason he is in his situation. But he is trying to get out. Let's just appreciate that he has a good woman in his life, who understands him and is there for him. Surely things will get well for him in time🙏🏿
Great discussion. Indeed Ben was perfect for the conservation, he refers us to Biblical truth not mere words. Rach and Dr Evas we appreciate the good work you are doing.
Thank you.. I think these men are just getting lazy. Women's success only adds onto what a man who knows his responsibilities. They use the successful narrative to belittle women.
Dear Dr. Evas and Rachael. It would be nice to discuss the definition of genuine success in life....with regards to home, family, work, society? What is the balancing act? Can women have it all?
That's very normal and acceptable. We don't necessarily always have to agree with all opinions or perspectives out there. That's the reason why conversation, debate and reasoning together exists....not to mention when the 2 perspectives can agree to.disagree.
Financial success for a woman gives her the feeling of not being vulnerable. It may give her peace of mind especially if her man is or has NOT been dependable. It may give her the feeling that she can look after her natal family especially if they grew up in poverty and were oppressed. It gives her freedom to spend on her lusts eg- beauty enhancements
So true! Financial success can boost a woman's sense of security and independence, especially if she’s faced instability or wants to support her family. It provides freedom to make choices and fulfill desires. However, it’s not a cure-all for personal or relational challenges-while money can offer empowerment, it doesn’t solve everything.
...but we have different money personalities and that gives us different views on it, so you can't really say money does things to women or all of us. That Luke 12:15 is very powerful for all of us to understand and pattern our lives accordingly, it provides such solid grounding!
What Luke 12:15 gives is solid truth but does everyone look at it that way? So the conversation is meant to direct different money personalities to this truth. I hoe this helps.
Thnx guys for this topic today and as you were sharing am reminded of the kitakas when they brought in Mr. Kuteesa, he pointed out something which i took on till today that women are intercessors of a home. This women could me the ceo, having all this money but they shd remember home first and so sparing time to pray for their husbands and home is very important. Thought i could share it here. Otherwise I like ben is full of wisdom and all of you as well.
For me i think the key issue here is RESPECT for both men and women in this changing context. Before our parents kept in because one of them kept home to raise and build the family. While today due to the changing needs, we are all running errands to make ends meet. This then demands very understanding partner or else the conflicts will arise and the women will eventually come out for thr sake of PEACE.
Dr Evas’s submission on men’s insecurity is borne out of societal conditioning of who a man is supposed to be right from when they are young boys. And this also applies to women who struggle with their positions of power or wealth because of how and what society has conditioned them to be and believe as their place in the society and in relationships.
Absolutely true! That's why we are having these conversations to help all of us make some mental adjustments in our perspectives to promote good and healthy relationships and families. Thanks again Fiona for your kind observation!
