Why Sweden Is a Submarine 'Superpower' 

Did you count how many? I didn't lol

Made the video at least 30% longer than it had to be... 💤

AI rules

Honestly, it seems pretty audacious to me… especially when he said “the audacious audacity to…”

And just repeated every fact again and again and again...

Yup. They probably use diesel to burn in a continous flame for the stirling engine. No continous banging like in a normal combustion engine. That's why they are silent.

Thank you for pointing that out. There is NO way you equate a 30-40 million dollar fighter to any modern submarine. It's an insane comparison! We also don't have the whole story of this "War Game" cause it wouldn't be declassified at this point. Beware of this channels propaganda base. It's regularly pro Russian when covering that topic.

This video all like “The Gotland will bring a massive edge to NATO” Like bitch, Sweden has 3 Gotland class subs- that means 1 in logistics terms. That aint shit…

I recall reading Pop Mech or Science back in the early 80's or late 70's about a Joint development with the DDR for developing an Inside Out Battery system that fueled a Fuel Cell for running silent electric and generating hydrogen and Oxygen under charging for More very quiet further operations, very similar to Nuc Boats but More Quiet, safer, Smaller, cheaper. I wounder? if this was a Thing 25 Yrs ago? but our industrial military machine and Politicians Want to Keep Funding the Nucs? Takes a WAR to really get to the GOOD STUFF.

Thanks for the correction, I thought that sounded a little fishy

yeah this channel is kind of a joke sometimes

Stirling Engine is the greatest invention to date and is still progressing. Phillips even designed cars and busses with Stirling engines which could have been huge. The beauty of Stirling is that there are wide range of Stirling working principles and will continue this trend for years to come.

Stirling engines have the challenge of often using external combustion, making it harder to implement exhaust air quality control;/mitigation.

Why? It is most primitive of AIP, so even small nation can produce such propulsion at reasonable cost. It is also least complicated, you need just oxygen source, fuel source is same as for main engines. Disadvantages (it does not work in greater depths and it is noisier than fuel cells) does not concern Sweden, because Baltic and Northern see are quite shallow and noisy. So I would say, it is ideal choice for their mission.

I honestly dont know if what they tell you is the truth. China and Russia is gonna watch these too, and I dont think a youtube video reveals exactly how they do things. But its good entertainment

@@KittyCat-mp3rm Taigei has not AIP. Also Japan submarines are Oceangoing submarines, so not fair to compare them to coastal Gotland class. Also it is questionable, if Taigei is best conventional submarine. I would counter, that most advanced design is probably Type 212 and its derivates because their AIP allow them to be not only long time but also pretty fast on cruise. Also Taigei as other Japan modern subs are curiously poorly automated. Complement of 70 men is too much for such small submarine. Even 50 years old original Kilo needed only 50 men. Type 212 need only 27 men, 9 men per shift. For comparison immensely more complicated and capable Yasen class need smaller complement, than Taigei. Fact is, that Taigei is quite cheap submarine, it cost cca 500 million USD. This is only medium price among conventional submarines but if you take into consideration, that every military equipment in Japan is extremely expensive, then these 500 million USD is like 250 million for normal countries and thus that submarine is to cheap to be on top of the list. Sweden submarine was glorified, because it participated in naval exercise when she "sunk" american aircraft carrier. Also fact is, that it was Japan who bought submarine technology from Sweden and not vice versa. Soo it is arrogance and racism or overwhelming reality? What is "electric propulsion" you mean MHD? Then I can assure you, that not China, nor anyone else is using MHD on submarines. First, their efficiency is extremely low (under 20%). Second, they are strong producer of magnetic distortions and thus easy target for MAD. Red October was just novel/film.

Hmm the 212a is more quiet

the Barracuda class by Naval Group is advertised as having the acoustic signature of a shrimp shoal

Silent but violent? 😅

I assume You have unrestricted accsess to both subs? And then risk your career, and imprisonment. Just to tell the world here on You Tube, that the 212 is more quiet? Is there any more higly classified information you can bring to us? How much better the sensorsuit is on your beloved 212 maybe? @@SW-kb6ci

Amen

@@MichaelEhline Why do you say amen? Does God like this comment? Man get outta here quick.

😂😂😂yup we will 😂😂😂

@@bornshort Swedish heritage here. Agreed!

Oh yes? How come their cities are ridden with gangs then?

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I think the US should buy some of these from you folks. I like your subs and the J39 and how its deployed.

Well, every unit costed around 5-600 000 000 SEK to build in 1987. In 1997 they upgraded every A19 for 1 billion SEK. Now the Swedish defenseapartment wanted the two of the new class A26 with as today have a total cost of 14 billion SEK (7 billion SEK each) Dunno how much that are in USD tho. But HMS Gotland is way more expensive then a 90 million USD F-35C for sure if you take the built of it in 1987 and with the upgrade they did on it in 1997. Just counted that the new A26 will cost 669 million USD each. But they started with a pricetag of 8,6 billion SEK for both. They will not be ready until 2029 so I wonder how much more billions there will be until they are ready. I mean 5 billions already since 2015. 8 years, still 5 years left to 2029, soon end of 2023. I am sure that pricetag will be much more on each A26 when the built are completed.

The sub was on loan for a year _after_ the exercise.

Sank. Sink sank sunk. It sank a carrier.

1. it was in the pacific (based at Point Loma). 2. it wasn't a loan, it was leased for 1 year, including crew, and then the lease was extended for another year. US paid for the use of the boat and the transfer of it and it's crew, Sweden paid the crew. 3. the official tally was stated as "several times and multiple occasions" Gotland sneaked in, took snapshots of the carrier from a good attack position, and sneaked back out again, without being noticed, "On more than one occasion" according to the official statement by the (slightly blushing) US Navy officials.

A Dutch submarine did it before with 11 American warships

love to see those photos!! Locked up in a safe, in a vault in a mountain most likely :) respect@@andersbjansson1688

"audacity of this audacious display" sounds like the script was written by dredging a thesaurus

Don’t forget you have to maintain the sub and pay those sailors and it ain’t cheap. Drones are the future and will be launched from any where land, air or sea. Glory to Ukraine 🇺🇦

Which boat exactly? Name.

@@tomascernak6112 FGS do your own research, this is not highschool!

@@donquixote1502 Exactly, this is not some highschool where you and your moronic friends can claim anything without evidence. Sweden never lent any of its submarines to USA nor allow american specialist to study their secrets. So it is on you and your lyiing fellow to prove, which exact submarine was given/lent to USA for study .

@@tomascernak6112 It was the lead ship of the class the Gotland.

@@AndrewinAus So Sweden according to you borrowed its top secret Sub to potential enemy and left Sweden unprotected. When this happened and for how long?

It's hard to see the border under the sea's surface.

“Whiskey on the rocks;” that’s funny shat.

@@rickwhite4137 The U137 (real designation S-363) was running on the surface when it ran aground.

@@dishusse I never explain a joke.

No carrier was harmed in this scenario….

why would you be talking about this in the comment section on youtube?? was it important for you to mention this for attention or what?

Pls delete this comment as our enemies surely would like every ounce of information they can get on swedens military assets and development of our weapons. Förlåt att jag måste vara så jobbig men min käre Landsbroder, ta bort kommentaren ❤️

@@beefgrass5784 If he can talk about it on youtube it's public knowledge one google search away.. Sluta vara så jobbig istället.

Tror du verkligen att det är känslig information han sitter och delar på youtube ? haha@@beefgrass5784

@@beefgrass5784 jag tror att ifall han inte hade fått prata om det hade han nog vetat om det

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The audacity! 😂

Literally just technology that fucken makes sense on a submarine xD

The Gotland-class submarines of the Swedish Navy are modern diesel-electric submarines, which were designed and built by the Kockums shipyard in Sweden. They are the first submarines in the world to feature a Stirling engine air-independent propulsion (AIP) system, which extends their underwater endurance from a few days to weeks.[2] This capability had previously only been available with nuclear-powered submarines. So yeah, they still got diesel engine in them. How do you think they run the AIP system to get the Stirling engine to work? He also said that they using the fumes from the diesel to propulse the Stirling engine in the video. They also uses the diesel engine to generate the elctricity to the batteries. So the diesel engine has two work to do. Propulse the Stirling engine with fumes and generate electricity to the batteries. The Sterling engine can not work alone. It needs air flow to work, fumes from the diesel engine, which explains that only nuclear subs was able to use Stirling engines so that means Stirling engines was electric from the beginning. And yes the Stirling engine almost doesn't make any sound. The diesel engine in submarine almost doesn't either because it is super muffled because the fumes goes directly to the Stirling engine. Sonars had heavy problems to detect the diesel engine itself when they tested the sonars to catch the submarine. So you are wrong, the sub is both dieselpowered AND electric powered to run the Stirling engine.

Diesel is a fuel, what do you think those sterling engines run on? Hopes and prayers?

@@NecronomousDo they run the diesel and sterling engine underwater? I'm wondering how long before the diesel uses up all the air in the sub needed by the crew? Otherwise it's a diesel-electric powered sub.

@@bullettube9863 They can use the dieselengine under water as well yes. It is needed to power up the sterling engine. The dieselengine is one of the most quiet there are. They used it also under water under tests when USA borrowed the sub and they couldn't ping the sub even if it ran with the dieselengine on. The fumes from the engine will not affect the crew or anything. So yes it is a diesel-electric powered sub. Some older subs acctually got a dieselengine in them, but was later scrapped because of the envolvment of the sonar. Look at the movie Hunt of Red October, the american sub got dieselengine in it but the russian sub is a nuclear sub driven by electricity. That's why the Red October can hear "kachunk kachunk kachunk" because it is the rythm of the dieselpowered submarine. And yeah, these days the dieselpowered sub needed to reach surface to get air into the sub more often. But with the new technology and with the swedish submarine they have calculated that it needs to reach surface once a month so it is second to the best from a nuclear powered submarine. Using both the sterling and dieselengine is the outcome of that. So there, I hope that I could answer your question.

@@bullettube9863It does not run diesel engines when submerged, only sterling engine that runs on liquid oxygen.

If you have an operation area (to be efficient in the theatre with your flight wing) you have the same limits. The gotland aint an offensive weapon, but if you want to move anything by sea in (lets say the baltic) its a force to recon with

the carrier was protected by several smaller ships, subs and destroyers tho, there was half a fleet around the carrier as the gotland sub "sunk"it

bla bla bla bla, we sink you anytime anywhere...

Even the old German U24 diesel sub from the 70`s was able to penetrated a carrier group and was able to conduct a successful simulated sinking of the USS Enterprise aircraft carrier. They took a picture of the carrier as proof.

The Swedish people prove their intelligence of sensible mechanics with their Gotland sub! Small and maneuverable with detection evasion technology incorporated throughout! Perfect for securing much of the shallow Baltic Sea! Welcome to NATO, Sweden!!!

A old german 206 Class had sunk in a exercise for several years the USS Enterprise

It was on rigged exercises. The carrier was going slow. In real life the Gottland would not come that close. But still really well done by the Gottland.

@@elefteriosmouratidis Subs are able to shut down most systems and wait for the target to come to them. also heard swedes were using sterling engines on some of their subs so they can produce power on relatively low noise at zero fuel cost since sterling engine uses temp differentials to produce power they could use the cabin to water temp difference, if efficient enough they may be able to go for ages before needing fuel.

@@andrebarreto9177 they are using sterling on all the subs. But just shut down and just wait in the middle off the ocean is just stupid. Again in simulations the CSG travels at a lov speed in resteicted areas. In real life situations CSG are to fast for the swedish subs. But still its well done by us sweeds

@@elefteriosmouratidis not sitting in the middle of the ocean. If you have intel on were the fleet is going you can predict their path. Than it's a matter of getting the information soon enough to prepare a trap. I'm certain that just as in land there will be some choke points or routes that cannot be avoided. But yes, I imagine any sub probably has issues keeping up with a fleet, subs not renowned for their speed

here why?, because it is chasing Russian logs in stockholm archipelago not a days, for months,! .....and found few old shoes

Isn't there a British sub called Audacious???

@@d1.004 Good Question. Do you know the answer??

Bla bla bla blaha......@@KittyCat-mp3rm

And why would anyone not be? otherwise it would be like playing poker and you tell everyone what you have on hand.

until this video

The next generation A26 will be even deadlier.

@@petter5721This is the Blekinge Class👍

Can't imagine how unimaginable that is.

You are both right and an smaller wrong in your concern. You are right since our tradition is the country's needs that govern which tech is worth developing and using by our own military without becoming dependent on a larger country e.i. the US. Wrong? It is with great certainty that Sweden will also develop its own drones on a larger scale than what we already do. Current drone packages mostly cover our need for training and reconnaissance missions. The facility is a multi facility where tests for new weapons are developed, in addition to offering training and counter training for threats that exist today as an singel nation. There are very interesting videos on RU-vid of a very interesting training facility high up in Northern Sweden, check it out for yourself. Secondly, it will happen thanks to our membership in NATO today which will accelerate this development through increased need for this type of tech as well as meeting the new threats that arise. 2nd through our support in the prozy war happening in Ukraine now, where the data collection is shared between members of NATO. Most people can agree that Sweden is a fantastic country for simple and cost-effective solutions that go BOM. Here the war in Ukraine is a very interesting factor for the acquisition of these solutions, add the Swedish touch to things that work today and imagine what will come in the future. To those who love technology and the development of smart solutions, will not be disappointed in the future either.

SAAB Kockums and WASP here in Sweden has worked together on turning our submarines into drones for many years. They conducted a successful test 2-3 years ago. It's something they've invested a lot of time and money on completing, i reckon they are close to have such capabality by now.

A 7th gen naval fighter, that can take off/land vertically, is optically invisible, and can fly underwater.

​@@ronjon7942 Makes sense.

Pls, do your own research before you write what you think. Your questions show that you know nothing. It´s sad.

The exercise was in the pacific ocean, a full carrier battlegroup including US attack subs participated. The very same tech that enabled it to land multiple critical hits on the carrier and leave undetected is a limiting factor in terms of global range for bluewater operations. But the sub isn't designed to operate in blue water. The Swedes has always designed their weapons to suit themselves and the defense of Sweden. Since Sweden does not have an offensive military and a need to project military power, they do not need nuclear subs or ships, so why would they build one that adds range they don't need and loose the benefits of stealth that AIP gives over nuclear. US needs the range because their Navy is more useless to patrol around the US coast, so it's worth it to them to loose stealth and add range. And they try and make up for that by moving around all the time and not operate in a single area only. The disadvantage comes when their pathing can be predicted or they are forced to enter a specific area that the enemy knows of and have stealthier subs. Like say US trying to get in to the baltic sea. US knows this so they wanted to see how one of these subs fared against them if they are ever forced in to the operational range of one of these subs. So they chose to fight one of the absolute best in this class. And they got so caught with their pants down that they leased the sub and Swedish crew for another year to try and find ways to counter it. Some people blatanty claim they have effectively countered it by know, but they base that one a superiority complex only (surely the might USA with it's huge military can match little Sweden) and not facts and logic. Very few knows the actual results. Most likely they can adapt responses and tactics when entering the area etc and maybe try to get data for new tech for future subs, but it is very unlikely that they have solved the problem on the existing fleet. If they do that training again with the same tech, they are for the most part probably getting the same results. To claim they have counters for it as in "AIP subs are no longer a problem for them" is just plain stupid. A nuclear sub or ship is very noisy relative to AIP, you can't just change that without rebuilding the entire thing. And of course those AIP subs also advance in tech so there will be a constant cat and mouse game. HMS Gotland and it's A26 Blekinge class successors doesn't need to hunt down carriers or other ships in the open ocean, it only needs the capablity to keep them so far away from Sweden that it either cripples/hampers their operations or makes them unable to be used as intended. And considering the geography around Sweden and that there is only one way in or out, they would pose a huge threat and very big stick in the american navys cogs. Not that Sweden realisticly expects to ever fight US carriers, as with most of Swedens doctrine, it is specifically designed to fight and counter Soviets and now Russa, they have for centuries been the only realistic threat of invasion to Sweden. Most likely the purpose in a real situation would be to destroy the Russian Baltic sea navy and blockade Russia and Kaliningrad in addition to block any russian reinforcements to enter Kattegatt. You can see it in the doctrine, the fighters, the ifvs everything they do is made to counter what the russians use. And they are very good at it, there is a reason why they are one of the largerst weapons exporters in the world, the biggest if you factor in their size and population, and why even the mighty USA itself has a lot of Swedish weapons in their inventory.

Australia has these submarines, serving as the Collins Class.

@@donquixote1502Seems a bit rude. Nothing wrong with gleaning info from asking questions in the comments. For example, I’m doing a bit of research by reading them.

@@KittyCat-mp3rm if you read the entire thing and looked it up it was exactly with that setup including the us sub and sub protection it went up against. Otherwise there would be no point in testing for vulnerabilities now would it. In a real war where these kinds of subs would be a danger would be in situations US approach close enough to a country that has these kind of subs to actually use their carriers. If that for some reason would be Sweden that would be worse due to swedens geography where it is extremely predictable where the carries would go. They wouldn't hunt them down over the open ocean, they would lie in wait. Again there is a reason the navy hired the swedes for another year to train and figure out how they can protect themselves against a sub like that.

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@putrakdg677 so what's the goal for this russian invasion ?also what's your thoughts on child kidnapping,rapes and deliberately bombing civilian populations?are you happy about this ?

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Ukraine is losing.. but the U.S. leftist media won't admit it.

​@@putrakdg.19KARMA you looters and for ur' war crimes!

And what, become isolationists? No thank you. I much prefer the ability to freely travel all across EU. But hey, if you wanna sponsor me with a space ship so I can leave the planet all together then I wouldn't have anything to say!

@MartinLindelof Now what do you think Martin?

Ahem….. I have updates😂

Sorry buddy…

They haven't yet, but Turkey's parliament will do what Ergodan wants. Hungary isn't standing in the way and Orban is also somewhat of an autocrat.

Hungary is wrongly viewed, I think, as yes-sayers, albeit late such. My opinion is that they are blocking us just as much as Turkey. If they wanted they could have said yes and urged Turkey to do the same.

Orban wants some money eu have frozen and Turkey man he just want more and more to let Sweden join i think we will never join Nato

On the 7th of March 2024. 🤪