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I think that the Chaotix’s lack of importance in Heroes is actually what makes them interesting. In a lot of media, we tend to forget that there is stuff happening all around the world, whilst we are watching the heroes defeating evil. The Chaotix are basically just doing an arguable less important job, whilst getting thrown into similar scenarios. Canonical in Heroes, they technically haven’t encountered Eggman before the Egg Hawk boss battle, but battle him anyway to uphold their policy and protect themselves, or even any of the main cast. And yet, their story is still relevant as they help Eggman get out the prison cell, whilst arguably being the only ones to piece together that the Eggman they were fighting was fake. That’s my opinion anyway.
@@stanbrule9357 Well, I was referring to when they first met fake Eggman, when they originally thought it was the real Eggman. You are correct that they did meet Eggman properly at the end of their story, but I do find it interesting that the Chaotix didn’t have much interaction with Eggman whatsoever before the first boss.
@@silvskill5358 Yeah definitely a close second. That song is great. I'd put Follow Me in third and We Can in last. I don't hate it but it's a little too preachy even by Heroes standards.
Back when I 1st played Sonic Heroes, like when I was a kid, these guys were always my favorite. They just have such a great friendship, and hopefully they get used better soon.
@Zylo Wolf 2.0 It's just unfortunate the American/Western focus will largely consist of people like Egoraptor brainlessly screeching about everything related to Sonic being awful.
I think The Chaotix should get their own game. We should get a Knuckles Chaotix revival that focuses on the characters themselves and their interactions. Knuckles should be thrown in for some name power for casual fans honestly. Basically redo Chaotix the right way. Get rid of Heavy and Bomb. Mighty can come along too. It should just be Knuckles, Espio, Vector, Charmy and Mighty. Mighty's character should be a strong and capable mercenary. And the gameplay has to be good. Honestly have a combination of levels, like platforming and face to face combat, and also have some mystery solving levels to fit the Detective theme of the squad. Basically the game should be story driven, serious but with some light comedy, heavy focus on combat with some focus on precision platforming with characters having different abilities that make them all unique and alternating between them has advantages and disadvantages.
I like to think that Espio's funny and more entertaining side is that fact that he can be way to serious at times and is spouting words of wisdom for the most average as situations like they can all be super serious at times even charmy but they all can be super funny in their own right even Espio lol
Espio is definitely a comedic character. It is more obvious in japanese as he speaks with archaic overtones and has his own goofy catchphrase "Fukaku" which he says every time he gets hit or otherwise fails.
@@KOTEBANAROT He goes from badass to a sarcastic dorky teen with passive aggressive issues and i stan it Come to think of it, he was like that in Sonic x too Wait what does "fukaku" mean?
Yeah, don't forget the part in Journey To The East part 4 when Constant Vigil allows Espio to go back to Angel Island and he's so happy that he says "But I- you just - YES! Thank you Mother! Gah! I mean Master, please forgive my outburst! Here's how I think the other characters would react: Constant Vigil: (sighs) Espio, I think it's a little too late for that. 😲😩😑 Sonic: Ooooh, guess we now know YOUR big secret Espio 😆 Tails: I am seriously considering telling the Chaotix and everyone else about this. 😨😄 Monkey Khan : Forget about the location of Sally's royal birthmark, this is way more interesting than that! 😄😃😆 Sally: KEN! !!!! 😠😲 Monkey Khan : Sorry.😯 Espio: Aye yie yie! 😱😩
I honestly can't get annoyed by team chaotix. I love every single member and all the dialogue they have with eachother and can never not have a good time watching them do their thing. Here's to hoping someday they get some spotlight.
A lot of people didn't release how important their Roles and Mission was in Shadow the Hedgehog. Each one of their Missions was essential for the Final Story. Charmy had to get Disks from G.u.n, Espio had to "Hack" into Eggman Computer and Vector had to "FIND THE COMPUTER ROOM"!!!! in the Ark. All leading up to the Reveal Of the Eclipse Cannon True Purpose. We don't know who hired the Chaotix to do this. (Most obviously is Rouge since she has connections to all 3 Locations.)But I would love for this Secret Client to keep giving Them task that inadvertently helps Sonic and His Friends to save the world. Keeping his identity a secret and still paying the Chaotix.
I always loved Vector cause he fused SO many traits that make a loveable oaf. He's big and loud, often butting in and giving his two cents at the drop of a hat. But even still, he's a good man. People often forget that Vector is 20 years old, making him the oldest hero in the sonic franchise (Shadow may technically be 50+ years old, but he was in stasis for almost all his life). Despite not being able to fit in too well with the rest of the gang, he still gives everything he's got into protecting and helping others. It's no secret that Vector is almost always in a tight spot with money in the games/shows he appears in, often caused by spending most of his time taking free jobs for people in dire need but can't afford to pay. Even though he's a bit of an arrogant hot head and a loud mouth, he's still incredibly intelligent. He's canonically the best detective in the Sonic universe, often seeing through the Villain's plan before anyone else in the entire cast, even beating Tails to the punch. Not to mention he pretty much raises Charmy, a six year old without parents, on his own as a sort of Big Bro (Or father if that's more your speed). Vector is SUCH an underrated character, He's just such a loveable croc!
He’s more or less the series’ big legacy character dating back to Sonic 1’s early development and had he made it into the game, he’d be Sonic’s own Jim Gordon. Being there from day one.
shiro maekawa the writer for sonic from sonic adventure 1 1998 to black knight 2009 said he loved writing for team chaotix in sonic heroes and said he would like to write a spin off game for them but sega must bring back maekawa for ever since 2010s he was not the writer
@@castform7 It would probably be heavy on comedy (I.e. the case getting more abused as the story progresses). Maybe we’ll get some insight on how Charmy came to be with the Chaotix.
the chaotix are funny but also lovable. I also really liked the stuff with them in IDW's Zombot virus arc. I would love to play a chaotix game that is essentially a detective game. Also I'd like to see Mighty and Ray in more story focused stuff aside from Archie.
Vector is honestly one of my favourite characters. The dude gets so much complexity (for Sonic) and is honestly my pick for most underatted character in Sonic
Agreed also Vector is my favorite sonic character since love his design crocodiles are my favorite reptiles and loved his personality being the friendly muscle of the Chaotix I even have a Vector plushie
It seems like he’s a big favourite with Sega since he’s the character that appears the most away from the rest of his team including appearing Sonic Boom. It probably helps he’s an element from Sonic’s pre-development days that lived to see the current day and Knuckles Chaotix just happens to be the first game where they decided to debut him to the whole world. Unlike the rest of the cast from the Classic Era, we’ve only seen Classic Era Team Chaotix once and who knows if Jakks will ever do figures of all three. We got Mighty and Ray back in Mania Plus with new art before we have any updated artwork of Classic Chaotix. Archie’s more or less the last time we have official art of lanky Vector.
@@pokuhmoo9415 Croc and a Rabbit. Gotta admit I find it cute but I wonder how Cream a Vectors dynamic would change or evolve if they ever became official.
There are many reasons why I like The Chaotix from Sonic Heroes and then in some other games. They have a pretty unique chemistry, which made them so memorable. Vector is that kind of boss who has an hyper-active helper and a silent, but a pretty cool ninja agent.
They were pretty neat but Espio was given much more of a comedy factor; they made him look a bit incompetent. He had the cool ninja skills and invisibility, but he'd often blow his cover through an unforeseen variable. I honestly don't mind the angle of a serious ninja always seeking self-improvement but always failing though, kinda fits well with the rest of the gang.
I don’t really see TSR as him ‘ditching’ Espio and Charmy, since they were off doing work behind the shadows while Vector played along with Dodonpa’s races. The Chaotix don’t have to always be together to work as a team - like in Shadow, where Charmy is searching Prison Island on his own for the disks, Espio infiltrates Mad Matrix alone, and Vector scouts out the ARK for the Computer Room alone. One of my favourite tidbits about Vector is that while he loves money, he also can’t stop giving it to the more needy, leaving the Chaotix constantly broke. A tough guy with a heart of gold XD Vanilla, notice this man already! Also, Espio totally gives me Goemon vibes. Except, y’know, a ninja instead of a samurai.
Team Chaotix are pretty underrated too. And I think it’s called Team Chaotix because it can get chaotic with them around. But without Espio it would be even more chaotic.
I would love to hear about their backstory and how they got together. My headcanon goes as follows: Vector: since he is obsessed with money and recognition I imagine he had a rough childhood and leaves home to make of something of himself. Charmy: Lost his parents and wandered about until he crossed paths with the other two, making them basically his only family. Espio: Was part of a ninja clan and was either exiled or left of his own free will to find his own goal
I mean their Archie adaptations were like that espio is from a ninja clan, charmy did left his home wandered the world until he crossed paths with the others also his parents did die at one point while vector is basically what you said
In Sonic the Comic, they were protectors of the zones with Mighty and Fang as apart of their ranks though the latter would betray them. Charmy’s also a Prince there. Mighty has another family member Blockhead Bill that isn’t in the pre-Archie Canon. Fang is the Preparation Batman meme and less comedic than his other incarnations. This Fang would straight up tell Trip she’d be his partner or else at gunpoint. The Chaotix has Lord Sidewinder, an aristocratic crime boss with his own gang at his disposal who’s more or less their own Dr Eggman in terms of being the guy they’re regularly going up against. The Upperclass Killer to their Columbo.
Team Chaotix are my favorite characters besides Sonic himself. I always relate to Espio with my quiet and introverted nature and sensitive hearing (I'm on the spectrum), but I also relate to Vector for my big heart and sense of humor.
Espio has always been one of my favorites and the team as a whole is such a charming gang of good guys on the grind making a living. Really wish they make a comeback as a team in a future game not just as supports.
I kind of wish that you mentioned how Espio is a very justice-seeking seeking character, being one of the rare sonic characters who are actually ready to kill at a moment's notice and it isn't even limited to just robots. Thinking that Eggman in Heroes was actually the real deal, Espio threatened to murder him in cold blood multiple times. In the comics too, i think Espio was ready to off Eggman the second he was discovered to have suffered amnesia, having no reason or way to defend himself.
THANK GOODNESS SOMEONE MADE THIS VIDEO! These three, I can passionately state are my favorite sonic characters without question! I loved the backstory Archie gave espio, I love the way charmy was an actual prince, and how vector was just some dude that all somehow met together and became the best of friends. And even in the modern canon, they still remain the best and most fun characters able to bounce of eachother and the cast, with vector being my favorite of the three. He’s just one cool croc!
@@KYLE1654-v7m Hey, this is a two month old comment, and the info you just stated..... I already knew? I just said I like the backstories Archie gave, I didn’t say they were canon??? Go correct people somewhere else.
"Vector popping his head to the radio". Uhh that was their Theme Song. But if their Theme song is on the Radio cant see how they are not Getting Clients. I would hire them after listening to that.
I’d dare say that since the song doesn’t actually have any relevant information, such as an address or phone number, not a lot of people know how to get into contact with them, not to mention how the song probably costed a lot of money and the agency couldn’t afford any effective advertising or risk not paying rent, as a result. But I agree. I would also hire them from their song alone.
@@ge789 They could Alaways put their Information at the End of the Song but yeah I do find it funny that Vector Spent all this Money on Advertising the Business in a Song to put on the Radio only for him to forget to put their Contact info. That would be such A Vector Move.
What makes them interesting to me is that they have could easily fallen into obscurity much like with Mighty and Ray and other characters due the way kunkules' chatoix turn out had not been for Sonic Heroes guess it's another reason to love Heroes
3:49 Giving advice to people when they’re depressed.” Vector to someone going through suicidal depression: “Hey, don’t got there...yet.” Yep that’s some grade A advice to give to someone who wants to off themself
Exactly! They were together in Forces, yet they didn't really interact much (or at all?). With is such a waste, why did they brought them in the game at all?
@@d0tty Yes because all of the characters they brought in were shuffed aside, in favor of more Classic Sonic, infinite and Rocky. Mostly because none of these 3 where actual characters.
@@michia3765 classic sonic should have his own games. Infinite is well... The oc has no personality. And sonic was annoying in the 2010s. And Eggman will never be as good as he was in sa2
Unfortunately, i feel like their own game will ruin them. We all know that many characters' personalities have been changed or misinterpreted, so maybe it would be better if our three boys stayed in the shadows, at least they won't be ruined
I really want to know Why Espio A Ninja is part of a Detective Agency. I know in the Archie comics they Sort of Explain Why but I need the canon version.
@@LDtheBrachio In that universe Espio comes from a country in the East called the Dragon Kingdom. Specifically, he comes from the Shinobi ninja clan, which has a rivalry with other three ninja clans (Raiju, Gossamer and Yagyu). Each clan has a matriarch who is called "bride" (the bride of the Shinobi is also Espio's mother). The rest of the story gets explained better in the Archie issues 202 to 212 and in sonic universe 13 to 16
@@LDtheBrachio Back when the Chaotix wasn't a Detective agency but but of Knuckles' Freedom Fighters. Espio was sent by his Chameleon Ninja clan to Spy on Knuckles and The Master Emerald only revealing himself if the Situation called for it. He would later help Knuckles and join his Chaotix team. But that was before they became a Detective Agency and I think story still continues from back when they was a Part of Knuckles. They was Part if Knuckles team than later down the Line they became a Detective Agency minus Knuckles, Mighty and Ray. Clearly the Agency is a Retcon but Archie try to Combine both Stories. I want the New Story. I wouldn't mind if Espio is Still Connected to His Ninja Family and The Brides. (Just to be Clear I gave you a Really Shorten Version of Espio History in Archie).
Honestly I would LOVE to see a spin-off Chaotix game where they actually do detective things and showcase their competence rather than their comedy. Don't get me wrong, I adore their comedy - their dynamic interplay is brilliant as their personalities are such a great balance - but I want to actually see them solve a genuine mystery. One where Eggman isn't the villain for once (though he could be involved). I want to see them looking for clues, interviewing people, snapping around restricted areas, keeping up their occasional bumbling and bickering but actually being DETECTIVES. This might not be like a mainstream Sonic game, I realize, but it would be so cool to actually see them doing their actual jobs without running through loop-de-loop levels picking up rings and looking for hermit crabs. I want them to be the focus, not the background. There is so much potential for all these characters. Vector comes across as funny and kinda goofy but he's also pretty sharp, and he IS the leader, calling the shots and keeping everyone moving in the right direction. Espio is very serious and focused, but he can have moments of dry humor too. He keeps everyone focused on important details and grounds the rest of the team. Charmy provides enthusiasm and drive, even if it isn't always useful, his passion and excitement alway keep the others excited to press forward. He also sometimes ask questions or do things that seem stupid at first, but they end up leading to much more important discoveries. TL;DR, I really like the Chaotix and I wish SEGA would use them for more than just comedy, even though they're really good at comedy.
8:08 i love how you made Espio's singing sound all cool even though he doesn't sound like that in game. It's kinda hard to hear but he's literally singing in a tone deaf voice like someone who doesn't know who to sing but still doing it anyone
Team Chaotix makes up the classic comic trio. Vector is the Schemer, leading the group into different antics. Charmy is the Follower, going along without complaint. Espio is the Ignored, recognizing the inanity of their actions only for his pleas to go unheard.
Haven't even watched it yet but I fully agree! They're my favorite characters, besides Sonic and Knuckles. I wish they appeared more in the games! Let's hope that they are in Sonic Prime!!
The way you described them in the beginning I was comparing them to another adult swim show. Espio is like Huey, Charmy is like Riley, and Vector is like granddad in The Boondocks
I love how far discourse has come from the “sonics friends are stupid” talking point. The chaotix are amazing and I couldn’t agree more with your analysis of how they work as a comedy trio. Great video as usual my dude!
I remember back in your collab with Ruby of Blue how Vector should've been a leader of the Resistance, since he leads the Chaotixs and has really good detective skills and social skills.
I came up with abit of backstory for Charmy. He wasn't always so loud and excitable, in fact once upon a time he was a nice quiet little boy, following around Vector and Espio. Then one day at the diner Vector would go to for his coffee, Charmy would ask for one too. Espio would try and insist to Vector that he doesn't think it's such a good idea, considering how strong he takes his coffee but is distracted by cakes which are going by in the display cabinet. Seeing no reason why Charmy shouldn't have coffee, Vector orders two. One for himself and one for Charmy. "Here you go, kid," says the croc, throwing the little bee the coffee. Then after taking a single sip, a bolt of electricity races through Charmy's brain and his eyes widen before guzzling down the coffee in a single glup. Then before Vector can start his own coffee it's snatched by Charmy, declaring "it's mine!" before drinking down in the one go. Then overhearing the giggling little bee, Espio turns his attention to see the once quiet Charmy flying round the diner like a madman. "Vector! I told you that was a bad idea!" Espio would say. However he'd feel partly responsible being distracted thanks to his sweet tooth feeling like he must train harder to avoid temptation getting the better of him like that again, all while Vector wishes he had actually listened but would never admit it to Espio given he'd never hear the end of it. That was one year ago and Charmy still hasn't comedown from his caffeine high, despite only having two coffees.
Espio is basically Shadow if Shadow had a normal life and i always liked it. and YES I simply adore them, theyre literally the perfect side characters. Shiro Maekawa even said that while he loves Shadow he would actually want to make a game focusing on Chaotix.
These guys are awesome I hope they're playable in future games And i have always dream of an open world game for the Chaotix with a Detective plot, the main cast doesn't have to appear just create a new antagonist (the smarter the better) and why not, add the Hooligans as criminal and their rivals
@@doraeguyakaneddie6586 true true but it'd be pretty surprising that the sonic franchise DOES have an lgbtq character- (which is like dude its 2021 already, no one cares if your gay or not lol) BUT it would be cool if vex and es were gay 🥺 LMAOO
What happened to character just being friends with each other? Why does romance have to get forced in everything. Vector and Espio don’t even like each other.
They're pretty much Timon & Pumbaa if they had a third person. Man, do I wish they make a cameo in the next Sonic film. Dwayne Johnson as Vector, Kate Miccuci as Charmy, and Keanu Reeves as Espio.
Yesss!! A video on the Chaotix! I love them so much and this video has remade them my favorite team again lol, Charmy's still one of my favorite characters
Hands down my favorite sonic characters in the franchise! I can't get enough of their antics and the major amounts of TMNT energy they give off. Huge props for giving this underrated trio their due.
These guys are why I started giving simple, normal sort of goals to my D&D characters There’s something so funny about an interesting character in a cool fantasy setting who has goals like “I wanna pay rent this month”
Another parallel between Team Chaotix and Aqua Teen Hunger Force... The two trios are detectives! Or rather in the latter's case, former detectives, after the show became even more bizarre! XD
I love this! Theyre also my favourite team after Heroes, and I've always wanted to see them head to head with Team babylon. The dynamic is similar, and I feel like Wave and Espio would hit it off beautifully. Both are smart, the level headed ones, and they seem like they should be the leaders of their teams. Vector and Jet are pretty much lead by money, and Charmy and Storm are the comic relief / dumb or silly ones.
Yeah as they are among the best characters of the Sonic cast and easily a trio of buddies working together on cases. They deserve a spin-off for themselves. So with Blaze as the gold of the only good character in the Meta Era, Team Chaotix in the Silver Tier, does that mean Silver is in the Bronze? Also since you mention some Sonic characters you don't like, are you going to do a Top 10 Least Favorite Sonic characters as you praise a lot of the major characters & villains? I wonder who will be Sonic characters you dislike?
Being the only detective team, they actually do their job correctly. I'm sure no one except Eggman dislikes them. Chaotix are my favourite team for many reasons. Espio is the serious and calm one, while also being embarrassed at what his friends do. Charmy is just the one who basically does what Vector does. And Vector just goofs around
Y'know it's funny how the further a character is from the spotlight, better and more well treated they are. But yeah I love these goofs. They really are great use of not overbearing comic relief unlike two primary coloured robots (I like Orbot and Cubot but they can be a bit much sometimes). They're guys you don't take too seriously but would love to see more of.
I love team chaotix, especially Charmy bee and Vector They are so funny But Charmy bee is my first favorite character, and I love The Team chaotix so much, I am sure Team chaotix has more fans then the other Teams
Another thing I like about Heroes!Espio is that he was a bit of a chuunibyo/edgelord, but in a good way. You already mentioned his lyrics. There's also his line when you finish the Egg Hawk fight: "Death to the evil one! Prepare to die, Eggman!". There's also when you get an A rank: "Impossible feat! Ultimate ninja power!".
I can't say there is a single character in the Sonic games I wholly despise, and you're partially to thank for that. I used to go along with the [Game Grumps/ScrewAttack/web "critics" in general] "Sonic's friends are lame" bandwagon, but after watching your videos (and binging ZEXAL and 5D's and loving Yuma unironically while adopting Yusei's "no one is useless" mindset), but not anymore! Chaotix are like the Ed, Edd, n Eddy of Sonic in terms of a Comic Trio, but way better! (Also, Cubot in the Boom Cartoon isn't nearly as bad in the game, him being the Greek Chorus with Orbot makes for a funny eloquent speaker says one thing, and simple speaker says the same but to show he's dumb. Also basically trying to work the concept of Scratch and Grounder from AOSTH is nice.) Also, you know Dave the Barbarian too!? I love your videos even more now!
yeah that's one thing i don't like some people can't form their own opinion on sonic so they listen to what idiotic critics and idiotic youtubers have to say and they judge the series by their opinion
@@jdawson7877 I did like Arin's rapping in Natewantstobattle's cover on Infinite. If only he didn't hate Modern Sonic. Mr "Classic Sonic is the only Sonic".
@@JeremyBelpoisX when it came to talking about sonic i could always count on cobanermani 456 to talk positive about sonic but i don't really feel comfortable watching his videos anymore because....well you know also screw Arin modern sonic is the one and only sonic. classic sonic was just created to please classic fanboys who can't take there nostalgia goggles off
I would love to see team chaotix come back in any future sonic installation. Heck i would even be apposed to cream the rabbit, cheese, the babylon rogues, mighty the armadillo, ray the flying squirrel, sticks the badger, marine the raccoon, fang the hunter, bean the dynamite, bark the polar bear or trip the sungazer appearing in any future sonic game. Yes i chose alot of obscure characters and i think its because they havent gotten much compared to other characters
I love The Chaotix! Out of all 3, Espio is my favorite. They need to be in more games, but they need to be together, not having Vector join random teams or being alone like in Sonic Boom. I hope Sega will make them playable again.
@@donathan2933 I do like how Vector was portrayed in Sonic Boom, despite him being alone, but it felt a bit weird not seeing him with Espio and Charmy, especially since it was the only time he appeared on the show. I just mean that if they want to do something different, then it needs to make sense. Vector didn't even mention Espio and Charmy. I'm all for them interacting with other characters and in various settings, it just needs to be fleshed out more.
2:41 a note about that-the reason he even did that is because he was copying what shadow did in another story when they were trying to hack a computer, which i think is an adorable detail because it ties into what you said about him copying people he looks up to
Personally I loved them throughout the various comics, although they seem a little annoying in the game itself, but I think a lot of that is the voice acting The appeal is the same as teams like “the hero’s for hire” and the average buddy cop dynamic, a group,of characters with opposing personalities It’s also evident in comedy duo’s like jay and silent bob
The Chaotix are great, but I most agree with your mentioning of Cubot. Please can he an orbot just leave, they make Eggman worse and just are not funny.
In one of the comics I think it might have been (don't know which era) Espio and Charmy end up getting into an argument because Charmy said pirates are cooler then ninja and they bickered like both of they were children and Espio complains to Vector who is so done with they nonsense. The comics defiantly leaned in the comedic side for the Chaotix. Anyway but what I was getting at is that I personally believe the reason Espio and Charmy don't seem to talk to each other in the SH is because they always end up arguing over something stupid
