Why Tensions Between Italy and EU are Rising Again 

Rather inaccurate? It's a blatant mistake! Fighting the super bonus is probably the only significant good thing this government has done...

No worries folks, kudos for acknowledging this and keep up the good work!

RU-vid has a system to edit an already posted video. Why not just edit that section out? Sure it's flow breaking but it's better than spreading misinformation.

Nono, it's accurate! While the bonus were passed by the previous government, this one have reiterated it. So it's giorgia's as well!

It's good that you guys quickly post corrections!

Nobody in the parlament was against the superbonus, unfortunatly

The Superbonus was a decree from the previous Yellow Red government, exactly as the most of the politcs that are now held against Meloni's government by the EU commission about Law and Press Freedom, which is why Meloni was so pissed off.

And lose her sexual desire.

For real 😂

While she is against now and we all can agree that it was pushed through by M5S+PD, she was supporting it back in the day like the rest of the right wing because developers and builders are their constituencies. She is against nowadays only because she can't take credit from those who benefited from it and can't use that money to do new bonuses to give money to the same constituencies taking the credit for it

Bho non mi piace lei ma non è giusto incriminarlo. Alla fine sta cercando di sistemare il casino almeno :/ Non cacciasse Fazio e simili dalla Rai sarebbe potuta essere stata anche una sorta di Merkel italiana 😅

@@97Corvi I agree with you. I'm just saying that the programme is not hers as stated in the video. I believe an errata corrige is needed for the sake of real journalism this channel brings forward.

Draghi didn't want to remove the superbonus, what are you on about? He wanted to keep it and he modified it to be less prone to exploits. Also, Meloni keeps renewing it, saying she has nothing to do with it is her propaganda, so don't fall for it. The reasons M5S stopped supporting Draghi was due to other policies like military expenditure and stuff like the incinerator in Rome

​@@federico4784this is the right statement

@@renatogolia211 Dont border tldr is leftist so the are biased nd dont corect misstakes

It was done during Draghi. Conte had it for 6 months, Draghi and Meloni for 18 months, more or less.

@@anto8375 You need to rephrase. Your sentence is not understandable.

@@centurione6489 if you do not understand it you should join Meloni's party it suits you

The superbonus beign considered a clusterfuck is complete propaganda.

Was approved by every party

@@enricopietrobelli3318 The ballooning cost of the superbonus and the various tax incentives were not properly communicated by Conte and Draghi led Governments. There was a serious lack of any real value for money (VFM) analysis in advance and the tax credits and commitments granted are well beyond the initial figures. It is not fully appreciated that Italy had for many years prior to Covid ran a primary surplus, which France has not done for a very long time. Of course the next big issue for her Government is adjusting the pension age. Life expectancy at age 65 has bounced back to the pre Covid trend and deaths have fallen further in 2024 by 5.8% for the first five months and 6.5% over 2019. The conditions created by this huge improvement in life expectancy are stark, when viewed under the Fornero reforms. Recent playacting by Salvini etc., cannot stop the pension age moving to 68 or 69 without delay. Though could any Government survive substantially increasing the pension age?

​@@enricopietrobelli3318No it was not, FdI, FI and Lega voted against the "decreto rilancio", but to be true both FI and Salvini were in favour of extending it for 2023 - but at least not officialy FdI did not

@@enricopietrobelli3318no it wasn’t. Her party was in the opposition.

Exactly. M5S bonus has been a total wreck on Italy's economy. 150 billions of debts thank to these criminals

TLDR are not known for taking down their videos, they prefer pinning a correction at the top of the comments (and virtually every video has one, along with some text saying "we are so sorry it won't happen again"). I wish they spent a bit more time on research instead of trying to post fresh content every other hour.

@@thedutchfoxxx But it does happen again, and again 🤣

​@@thedutchfoxxx The very nature of Journalism don't allow much research to be done... to grab as much of your attention they need to pump as many eye-catching articles as fast as possible, essentially, they are all content farms. They do inform people but they are never to be taken as informative...

NO IT IS NOT A MASSIVE MISTAKE MELONI DURING ELECTORAL CAMPAIGN PROMISED TO EXTEND THE SUPER BONUS YOU ARE THE ONE WHO SHOULD TAKE AWAY YOUR COMMENT AND READ NEWS BEFORE SPREADING MISINFORMATION

If she doesn't like it she could get rid of it, right?

@@mementomori7825She did in fact as soon as she got into office, but the debt caused by the superbonus is gonna have impact on the country for the next two decades to say the least. It’s literally the most expensive single piece of legislation in the history of the country. Why do people comment without actually knowing anything regarding what they’re talking about?

That’s politics

FAKE it has been introduced by a populist government with the Lega in it… not leftist at all!!!!!

NO MELONI AND FDI NEVER COMPLAINED BEFORE THE ELECTION SHE PROMISED, ON THE CONTRARY, TO EXTEND THE SUPER BONUS AND THE IT BACKPEDALLED AND BROKE THIS PROMISE - SAME AS USUAL

Taht what you get with the untaxed multi hundred billion Euro parallel economy in Italy.

Much of this debt is allegedly internal. Therefore, not all of it is problematic. Still, it's too much of a deficit

@@Spido68_the_spectator Just because it's internal doesn't mean it's not problematic. It just means the country doesn't have to outright default.

​​@@Spido68_the_spectator you are spot on: the Italian debt is about 75% in the hands of Italians living in Italy, through bonds and state emissions of obligations. Italy has high attitude of citizen's savings behaviour compared to most of the other EU nations, as Italians are more prone to loan their money to the stste then to the free market bonds. If you compare this with the massive 51% of the French debt in the hands of foreigner you see where the real issue is.

​@@thearpox7873​​it is very unlikely as Italy's Bonds holders, all living in Italy, would default with the nation. I'm not saying that numbers lie or that it's not a big issues as a huge part of the PIL goes to debt holders, but since those are Italians, at 75% of the whole debt, those money would also stay inside the Italian economy. This is way different then the case for Grece (31% of which debit was held by Italy) or even France which debt is only at 49% in the hands of the French. This means that, whenever France pays interests, 51% of that values bleeds out of the French Economy to foreign entities..

Hey, it wouldn't be TLDR's format if they didn't have a regular mistake 😊

When is the next election

@@thejollygreendragon8394 because as we all know, every other media source are 100% perfect and never make a mistake

@@EpicRenegade777 they make major mistakes in every video, I'm starting to think they do it on purpose

@@EpicRenegade777Well, I disagree, as I know a few other Media outlets also make mistake's

*Hungary

@@Kenshiroit 😂😅

Hungary is a small country but Poland has a big population and is becoming more and and more important.

@@ordosdieabeticus901 Italy is in G7. Laugh with cognition of cause.

@@jasminehasan890: Oh...Italy! How's Madam Georgia 😁

Wtf

Also as a left leaning this was the wrong move I don't really like her, but in a situation where situation where you have far worst in the parlament (look at Orban !!) the least you could have done giving here at least some role insidie the EU. The only Hope at this point Is the fact that also Orban betrayed her (creating the Patriot of Europe and making her less influent), so let's Hope that She is desperate enouth to still be more centrist then the far right that the people accuse her to be.

@@97Corvi How did Orban betray her? For a betrayel you need to be friends first

Be scared. We are taking back control from the woke lunatics.

@@geenkaas6380 And they were more or less friends. Orbán even went to several ECR meetings since 2021, for then to create his own European group.

@@97Corvi Ar you drunk? Where the hell di Orban betray her? Orban would have restince in Melonis fraction because here fraction is antirussian

that is a flat out lie

Some literally want to leave the EU

It's not a conspiracy at all, they say openly that they want to replace missing workers with immigrants. But as soon as you call it replacement then for them it becomes some ridiculous theory that makes no sense.

😂 You think your culture is so weak it'll disapear just like that ? Embarrasing when native americain culture still exists .

​@@worlds-biggest-mbn-fanboyAh yes the so popular native American is so popular that people forget that they still exist

Of course there are some people and organizations who want to replace native Europeans with h immigrants. At least to some extent. That aside, it's always the same pattern: Someone mixes a popular opinion or a fact with some wild ideas, and then the wonky parts are being used against the core argument.

​@@worlds-biggest-mbn-fanboyit exists because the ultra small white liberal freemason minority of the 1800s begged the ultra conservative to preserve them, otherwise they could have just stopped existing lol

They won't report on anything that makes leftists look bad.

For those who don't know the Prime Minister of Spains official title is President of the Government. But outside Spain, he's usually referred to as Prime Minister.

Are you taking about the very weird investigation on her wife, that has mind you failed several times to find anything and is mainly pushed by vox,the far right party, I think he has done bad things and even I can see this is to political

Freakin' Iberia, Portugal had the same issue, 13 ministers resigning over corruption claims within 18 months, including at the time our Prime Minister and the current leader of PS political party. There's always pattern in socialist parties and corruption.

@@NicolásGonzálezAriza-t4u is literally everyone going to act like the right hasn't had considerably more actual cases of corruption

It's probably too late by now. Demographic collapse is imminent. There aren't enough young skilled laborers to create and do those jobs.

Who's Raimondo?

U.S official

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She litteraly wants to renegociate the EU treaties...

@@Sir_Bucket The EU has changed a lot since the original treaties were signed and not for the better.

@@johnnymcandrew that's a very vague sentence that does do much except grumble. The EU's problems are not fundamental to its constitution, they're linked to the COVID crisis' fallout, the migration crisis, and the rise of euroseptic politicians. The UE still functions, it has a lot more power than before, and that power came with new challenges.

France also has conservative - corporatist welfare. A fix could be to corporatise it properly, therefore having clueless politicians not handling it. Careful ruling will have to be made though

These channels are set up by NGOs serving narratives to the ''cloud dwellers'', they can hardly be called reputable.

the left are coward politicians , Meloni the best PM in Italy from a decade, the left hate PM that work for their country , the right politicians are by far better than any left coward ... ... Von der leyen are coward leader , they destroyed Europe economics and they want to control all europe national government...Italy under Meloni government are better than the left ...Conte government destroyed Italy by high superbonus

hell you could have had some schmuck that was just Italian Orban

What do think the stone age was like? 😂😂😂

@@marseldagistani1989 ah believe me, we got several of those types. Luckily they never really get very far.

@@sagunsingh7415 man, you know full well what i'm referring to. it's a metaphor for those conservative ass values that aim to make countries go backwards instead of forwards. the derisive way you're asking this question in this comment seems to suggest you feel attacked by what i said, meaning you probably support those values. which i respect. just go laugh-emoji at someone else if you will

@@Zestieee Oh so conservative political leaning countries have regressed to the Stone Age.. Like the USA? Australia? The United Kingdom? Taiwan? South Korea?

I speak German at C1 level. First, the word sounded alien to me​, then I had an aha moment and grasped the inner logic. 😂 @@huanson7757

didn't realize she was like 2'8"

Small, but angry and ferocious like a little chihuahua.

@@AshesOfTheKing or just an italian. they tend to be pretty small in general.

​@@maddineki meen, we are 1,77cm on average 😅

Who are you thinking of?

Migrants are not replacing you, just because you see people of different color in the street doesn't mean the system is favorable for them. Systemic discrimination is still very strong in the EU. Please do not act like Musk.

Because that’s how public international law works. If you enter into a treaty with a different country, it is necessary that such agreement takes prevalence over national law, otherwise you could just claim it’s not applicable, defeating the purpose of having a treaty in the first place.

So you are ok with fascism?

@@zedtrek just read what he wrote man

since when supports nuclear energy is right wing?

A strong pro Ukraine/NATO stance, Climate Action and an anti illegal immigration pollicy would win my support

@@fromfareast3070 It shouldn't be. But apparently every leftist party became suspicious and/or completely against it for some mysterious reason (lobbyism and bribing)

"It's not happening and it's good that it's happening"

Unfortunately , it is happening. Native European populations are a minority in major cities. Look at the reactions of governments/police in the way they handle Palestinian marches and riots and native Europeans.

​@@rabadalsko4993 😂 are you serious ?

​@@stopsnoopingaroundI mean to be fair it says a lot that people resent europeans that much in the first place including themselves 😂

@@worlds-biggest-mbn-fanboy of course

She is not weird, she is an unelected incompetent lunatic dragging us over a cliff

Meloni is no down to earth. Anything but…

Mrs Fond of Lying is a criminal.

​@@delbroox Have you met her?

@@margareta9081 she’s a public figure who’s been in politics for years now. It doesn’t take a close friend to understand a person’s attitude toward politics now does it genius?

So selfsufient prophesy Or maybe like the boy who cried wolf

It's a lie, it's because we Italians want to be Italians and not Africans like France. The EU does not demand austerity from socialist Spain and France, only from Italy because we voted for Meloni.

Oh, so that's why there is Euro-secret police patrolling Italian streets, silencing media outlets and making journalists disappear.

very limited view point

Melanie?

Just check the investigation by FanPage and her response to it 🤮

good, a lot of "journalists" are calling everything fascist just cause it drives more engagement

Se fossi stato in lei mi sarei sotterrata dopo le dichiarazioni di Lollobrigida e altri suoi ministri 😂

@@alessandrorosati820 Journalists are one of the worse type of people. It is not just Meloni and her party hating them, the population hates them overall. Also, these journos are so partisan, they almost exclusively focus on right-wingers saying extremist things, but never on left-wingers. So what if a guy from Brothers of Italy said a fascist thing, when you have 50 people from your average Italian communist parties who say communist things?

The difference is that most East Germans didn’t get a choice of party affiliation before reunification with 1/4 of the population being Stasi or Stasi informants, Italians did have a choice. Meloni never had to worry about getting thrown into a gulag for her political beliefs.

​@@JollyOldCanuckArguing with reichies is a waste of time.

​@@JollyOldCanuckthis is a ludicrous statement. There are many east germans who were not a part of communist youth movements, and the same goes for every former eastern bloc country.

@@aabbccdd4710 Not being part of the movement would have damaged their prospects for university and job placements. It’s easy to talk about resisting a regime when the next 40 years of your life isn’t determined by how much loyalty you show to an autocratic regime that can destroy you and your family if you step out of line.

@@JollyOldCanuck that has to do more with the German mentality not the regime

USA...tyranny I think...

Cool name.

No it fucking isn't, immigration policy isn't replacement Maybe get angry at genuine attempts at replacement like the Russians did with their occupied territories

​@@Josh-oj9mmreplacing european slaves with another slaves for maximum profit and no children are envolve ti maximize the economy is replacement

The great replacement must be pretty slow then since i still dont know any immigrants.

@@worlds-biggest-mbn-fanboy You don't understand basic statistics.

@@Khneefer I dont but i know for a fact that if great replacement was true it would be unlikely for me to not encounter a single immigrant in 18 years.

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It's important to say that the "ah, they are all bought by the left" talking point is already pretty boring and is only used to shut down opinions that you don't like. The reality is that media freedom has been deteriorating under Meloni's government, and this isn't to say that it was very good before (because it wasn't). I read the report from Reporters without Borders about the media freedom index in 2024 and it doesn't seem Leftist at all.

​@@diogorodrigues747Reporter without borders lol, even it they were reliables as a French organization based in Paris (says who? you?left?right? the french?Von der leyen?) in 2016 (with left) Italy was rated 72th, in 2024 it's 41th (right), in 2020 (no Meloni,but Conte) IT was 43th. Still here TV shows interviewd the very journalists who relesead the answers to rate the opponent party, all from La Repubblica, a communist newspaper,plus the left union, not even 1 citizen in the street. What burns to italian leftits? Here: first woman in Italian history to lead the country was produced by the right. After 10years of technical governments led mostly by left, PEOPLE choose the right wing,a catholic and a woman. Soon after her election the direct opponents had to put a woke lesbian (who never worked a day,being the woke son of elitarian industrials) as secretery of the left party (PD) just to fake they still care for women,lgbtq and poors' rights. When you use no democratic methods to measure democracy standards you are just rigging the results, that's the truth people like you, France or EU parlment are scared to address.

@@Grifondorzo So you went to 2016 to disprove my point. That's a bit dishonest...

​@@diogorodrigues747 lol sorry for addressing facts. BTW also from 2020

@@Grifondorzo Italy has worsened in 2024 from the 41st place in 2023 in the rank to 46th, the worst ranking since 2018. And this is after a little bit of improvement until 2022. Explain that.

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Ah, you mean FCKAFD? Indeed…

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You forgot about Iran, another big lose for our economy

@@taylorc4598 we Italians are in business with Iran. We have lost nothing. Also, seems that Meloni wants to increase relationships with Iran so... we will see.

↑ Me when I don't know anything about fascism ↑ In Mussolini's Italy most industries were state-owned. Fascism does not have anything to do with economic policy. Also, how is supporting entrepreneurs a bad thing 💀

@@rixorobert while you're right on the first, reducing taxes beyond putting the welfare state due to underfunding it can easily lead to an even worse wealth distribution since those that earn more find themselves paying less, please people, Reaganomics sure as hell don't work

@@Solstice261 I agree with you when it comes to large corporations but for small entrepreneurs I think it can have more benefits

@@rixorobertA lot of industries were state-owned, but only after the Great Depression started. Before that, Mussolini was backed by big business and he supported them in turn at first.

​@@user-df1ns1ob8y Yes, just like I said: fascism doesn't have anything to do with economic policy

bro letteralmente i giornalisti Rai hanno protestato

Ok(?) Il governo non ha modificato alcuna legge però.

@@matteosala1032 "commissione di vigilanza Rai"?

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