@@scantopup2226 I think it's more than 30 years coz freya said tyr temple is buried underwater for 150 winter which roughly 150 years and there's a relic about kratos being the ghost of sparta on the treasure vault, mimir that have been trapped for 109 winter know about kratos being the ghost of sparta which means kratos is likely been around for quite a long time and if the blades is following him, it will likely be more than approx more than 190 years
For those of you saying that Ares is the one who cursed the blades. Yes its true that the narrator says "the blades were fused to his arms, never to be removed" Now that doesn't necessarily means that the blades are cursed , it just means that kratos is cursed to never remove them. However this curse was lifted during the ending of gow 1 when Ares took the blades back. The curse I'm taking about in this video is a new one ( I guess you haven't read fallen god) in the comics the blades of chaos keep appearing in front of him whenever he wakes up. He even accuses Athena of being the one responsible for such a curse. This is a new curse, totally unrelated to the one from gow 1 that got lifted by Ares himself. If you still want to say Ares put this new curse on Kratos you have to provide evidence that Ares is at least Alive, which he's not.
Well, the problem is that Athena didn't even know where the blades were, and for some reason, she could just curse them? I do not think it was Ares' curse, but I think the blade is a plot hole, put into the fourth game for fanservice without further thought, then, they attempted to explain the plot hole in Fallen God, but it didn't work (at least for me). Honestly, it wouldn't have been as much of a problem narrative-wise had they just added Blades of Exile instead of Blades of Chaos.
The blades are simply kratos destiny. There’s a scene when Brock ask him “is that a family air loom” and kratos says “no and nor will they ever be.” I believe when kratos die so does his bond to the blades.
Problem is, he died some 4 times by now and they're still there. They actually went with him to hades every single time he died. When he says they'll never be an heirloom he is implying such curse and the terrible deeds done by those blades will never ever be passed on to his son.
And the fact that he kill them with the blades anx then immediately their entire bodies are made ash and put on him by the old Witch. Leaving nothing physical to tether their souls to the blades.
When I played the first God of war game,I thought these blades were just another weapon in another game.Never ever thought it would be of such importance in future games. 😂😂😂 Great video btw. 👍🏻
That's how they are presented in the first games, the fact that you get the blades of Athena and the blades of exile should tell you they are that important lol
@@KaptainKuba If You Played The Zelda Series Than The Same Goes For Link Because He Was CURSED By Demise To Be Eternally Bound To The Master Sword And When There Is Trouble He Will Always Return To The Master Sword So I Believe The Blades Are Link And Zelda's Souls Eternally Trapped Within Kratos's Blades Are Always Returning To Him Due To Demise's Curse Keeping Them From Escaping Back To Hyrule The Eternal Cycle Of Chaos Hyrule Had Some BRUTAL Wars In The Distant Past So Everytime Link
The blades are like a symbiote they will seek their host and bond until their host is dead and gone only Kratos is very hard to kill and refuses to stay dead.
In Muspelheim, I'm pretty sure the voice Atreus hears from the sword is Surtr, and once you beat the Valkyrie there he does take an interest in you, and it's where you get the last Blades of Chaos upgrade, so Surtr helping kratos in some way with the Blades of Chaos isn't too out of left field
kill all gods...ALL gods chu say.....tats popycock he.ll kill ALL the gods 😄 tats impossable simply becuz 1 his sons a god and also soo ish he 😄 and as we know the prev. gods made it soo he cant die by his own hand 😄
I always thought that the Blades might be semi-sentient. They have a mind of their own but stay true to their simple purpose: sticking to Kratos. I would even be open to the blades having a consciousness and would whisper to Kratos from time to time
@@marvelismarvelous8987 no, not at all, if they are trully forged with Chaos it means they hold the soul of one of the most powerful beings/forces in gow, it would only make sense that the traped chaos would act out every now and then
I just agree with kuba that Santa Monica just wants to forget about the other 2 sets of blades, because thats what i thought when the game first came out and i first saw the blades of chaos
@@marvelismarvelous8987 not really unless sms didn't really think about this but in tyr's vault the vase that depicts kratos he's holding the blades of exile
When loki was sick, his death would have changed the future since we know the world serpent already went through Ragnarok and its Loki's son so it would have changed the whole outcome of ragnarok
I honestly think this is one of the best theories you've had. I personally think athena is cursing the blades to follow kratos, has a reminder that he can't outrun his destiny. She even tells him that he can't when he goes back to the house to get them. "There's nowhere you can hide, Spartan. Put as much distance between you and the truth as you want, it changes nothing. Pretend to be everything you are not... teacher... husband... father... ...but there is one unavoidable truth you will never escape. You cannot change. You will always be a monster"
Kratos was in another dimension when he lost the Blades, at which point Ares could have taken them in the real world. Just as Zeus holds Kratos (in GoW 3) and he starts fighting inside himself, but in the real world Kratos is just "passed out". So the Blades would be with Ares in the real world and so Kratos was able to retrieve them. This is not possible Kuba? Congratulations on the video!
Ares made a bond, with Kratos with chains that seared into his own arms. To be a servent of Ares but also symbolic of being a slave to his own rage and violence which is channelled through those blades. I believe those blades have somewhat become a part of him, and just as he was cursed to wear his ashes of his family, he's also cursed to wield the blades that killed them.
Another possibility is that Kratos never lost the blades of chaos. Ares only ripped off the physical chains but the metaphorical chains are still connected and are what bring the blades back to Kratos. Seeing how Ares is the one who had the most involvement with the blades.
I’ve been wondering how Brok knew that Atreus’ powers of communication. When you meet him at Landsuther Mines he tells Atreus to talk to the ring despite knowing about his ability to communicate with animals/spirits.
I always thought when he said “the world” was reacting, I thought he was referring to the previous world changing events like in God of war 3 when a God would die the “GREEK” world reacted. With a natural disaster.
Do you think God of War will ever really touch on Christianity, though? I really don't know... It would start a shitstorm for sure for Karen's and soccer moms that think Santa Monica mean to disrespect the religion.
@@KaptainKuba They don't have to be "Evil" for Kratos to kill them you know? Just an overwhelming amt of rage, probably from the gods sacrificing Loki for the greater good, could do the trick. Yeah I think the gods are saving up Atreues for a grand Sacrifice in the future.
@@doubleh2002 i don't know why but i have a hunch that we may get to see Penelope again after fighting Thor and losing and needing to go back to Greece to get the geared up again
I don’t think they wanted us to forget about the blades of exile. When helhiem showed the blades of chaos, that may just have been an elusion all around. Remember the vase with the picture of kratos? If you look closely those were the blades of exile that kratos was holding
i think the blades of chaos as well as the leviathan axe are here to stay. I think they will be very significant storywise. I agree with the surtr theory too. I do hope there will be a game involving the higher plain of existence
I don't think Loki being ill will affect other Pantheons just like whatever happened in Greece didn't affect Egypt and Norse. Cory was talking about the "Realm" of Midgard getting affected by his illness (that may be connected to Ragnarok). As in Norse, there's one world with nine realms in it, Maybe? And the higher plain of existence wants to keep Krato's insanity level low. Atreus is the only being keeping Kratos in his peace of mind right now. After losing everything and he loses Atreus now imagine the state Kratos will be. It'll be hard for anyone to negotiate anything with Kratos and Athena for whatever reason she has will have a very difficult time manipulating him (if she's evil).
Great video, but I don’t think the question of who cursed the blades is the idea that Santa Monica is trying to introduce. If you ask me the blades always returning to him will serve a greater purpose come when Kratos dies to Thor and is sent to Valhalla. What if your possessions don’t follow you so the axe is left behind but the blades are still with you, this could be their way of doing fan service since we would get to fight our way out of death ☠️ underworld style once more.
exactly what i think is going to happen: Kratos dies Shirtless in Valhalla Only blades are there we fight our way out We fight heimdall before getting out of asgard.
@@youssefyoussef9418 man I can totally see how that would play out it makes sense for it to be near the start too so we can build him up with the blades first instead of the axe
I have a theory .. Do you remember when Athena put hope in Pandora's box? It is possible that Athena put part of her energy into swords so that she could find Kratos's place wherever he went so that it would appear to him even in other worlds like Egypt and Scandinavia .
I think the blade of chaos is literally CHAOS itself.. because like freyja said he cant use his axe becoz it was made in midgard.. technically the blade of chaos is like a key to some places.. i.e his axe is useless on some places in midgard becoz it was made from midgard and thus blade of chaos comes in becoz that weapon was not from midgard.. surely those both weapon has some kind of curse and blessing..
Your theory make sense. And it'sone of the most powerful weapon in God of War because Zeus manage to destroys all of Kratos Godly weapons at the end of God of War 3 but only the Blade of Chaos is still intact. Which means it's was forge by the ores that's was once the blood of the Ancient Primordial God Chaos the most powerful entity in God of War.
@@timeportal2859 I actually think blade of chaos is some kind of a key to restart the world thats why Zeus cant or didnt destroy 😅😅.. I have this theory that if Kratos is somewhat immortal and could go in every major pantheon he will end the reign of gods and let human kind advance without the gods..
Have y’all played the first game? Aries bound the blades of Chaos to Kratos after Kratos gave his life to Aries. There honestly shouldn’t be a theory of a higher existence bounding the blades to Kratos.
I thought the storm was because modi was telling the aesir about magnes death and the pantheon was grieving 🤔 and modi getting the sh*t beat out of him by daddy thor
I wonder if Kratos’ destiny is to destroy all the pantheons and free humanity of the God’s Influence. Since Kratos is helping to bring Ragnarok closer. He already killed the Greek Gods and the developers want Kratos to go to Egypt next which will most likely result in their death too.
@@KaptainKuba I didn't watch the fallen God one since I wasnt interested in the fallen god but seems like I need to watch it the last theory I watched was a month ago 😁
Hey Kap!!! What if Tyr is also part of the Higher Plane of Existence? So far Kratos’ Destiny has led him to Norse where Tyr is nowhere to be found or dead.
Hey i got a theory what if kratos was just imagining that he was carrying the blades of athena and exile but in reality he was using the blades of chaos some reasons why i say this is kratos doesn’t want to use the blades of chaos but he has to so he imagines it’s different blades and in helheim we see that kratos was holding the blades of chaos not exile this obviously is just a theory but its a good excuse for not focusing on it too much
Connecting to Bain’s comment below about when Brok asked if the blades is a heirloom and Kratos said “no” What if Brok actually sensed magic in the blades to make weapons family heirlooms; making sure that the son will receive the weapon when the father dies? Maybe, Athena wanted Kratos alive to make sure Loki exist, lives, train, and 1 day receive the blades for their plans. It can go back and connect to the wall at Jotemheim where Kratos sees himself in Atreus’ arms, and the “snake” thing in the painting from Kratos to Atreus IS actually the Blades. Another thought, Loki is the catalyst of Change and Chaos, the blades represent both, changing the Greek relm and bringing chaos.
I honestly would love to see a mod in a cutscene he's calling the Axe back but the blades are jealous and come flying in instead and kratos's reaction being priceless and just madder causing more "chaos"😂
I think Athena is responsible for the curse. She knows how good kratos can fight with the blades. This could also explain why she did not gave him the blades in God of War 3, what I mean is maybe Athena was just trying to see how well kratos can fight with weapons that are not cursed to return to him
I believe it could be Persephone as she said that his suffering would never end and because the blades are a reminder of his past and his were used to kill his family they make him suffer in some kind of way....
In the novel, it was the Norse God's who were trying to stop Kratos from getting to the Blades. Whether it was stop him from saving Loki or from killing the Gatekeeper isn't said.
It kind of reminds me of a boomerang when you roll the way it comes back but this time with the blades it even worse because no matter how much you throw them away they always come back to haunt you
I have a theory about the death of kratos and the birth of jormungandr To keep it simple i think atreus will use kratos' tattoos to bring life to jormungandr and i know that sounds pretty crazy but hear me out. The mural on the wall depicts atreus holding a dying man in his arms, now at first i didn't think it was kratos because of the lack of tattoos but it also shows a giant serpent like creature being born which is presumably jormungandr. There is theories that kratos is the world serpent but what if the world serpent is only a remnant of kratos, a reminder of him. Atreus would use his own mind and soul to create jormungandr out of kratos' tattoos in kratos' image but its not him jormungandr is an amalgamation of kratos and atreus and you might be wandering "well wouldn't he be red?" as i said atreus created jormungandr in kratos' image he is not kratos and the red he has from those tattoos is concentrated in jormungandr's eyes. If you read all my ramblings i appreciate it! But if there is a hole in the theory or you wanna add to it please just reply to this comment! (also sorry for any grammar mistakes 😅) have a nice day and tell me what you think!
They could use reincarnation for kratos in future games or he dies, comes back with no memory but he's drawn to the blades and finding out about his past. I'd love to see kratos with Egyptian closing/silk skirt and arm bangles/pads. Egyptian weapons would be awesome too.
We know from Ragnarok that the Blades of Chaos contain primordial fire, which allows them to function in other worlds while all of his other Olympian weapons ceased to work once Olympus was destroyed. If Athena and Thoth are indeed responsible for the Blades of Chaos being cursed to remain in his possession, this is why. It's quite literally the only thing they can do to better his chances in whatever realm he journeys to next.
I think that the blades were being cursed/semi-sentient and that they would always have followed Kratos after they bounded to him for the first time and would have done so for as long as Kratos lived, if they weren't kept at bay by Athena's magic. By giving Kratos the Blades of Athena (weapons he didn't necessarily need, he was the God of War, he could wield any weapon he wanted) and replacing them with the Blades of Exile after the River Styx ruined the original blades, she shielded him for their curse. However, when he casted aside the Blades of Exile and "betrayed" Athena, she didn't renew her protection and allowed the curse to return to ever haunt Kratos, now an immortal...
Hey I just have a theory... The world (higher god's ) didn't want Atreus to die because that could cause Odin to win in Ragnarok in another timeline, my theory is that when Odin hung from the world tree and got all the wisdom he also learned about the higher plane, if he wins he could try and go to the higher plane and conquer it
just a question. Is there a necessity for the curse to work(in this case the blades of chaos) the one who gave the curse should be alive in Greek mythology? By the way another quality attention to detail video by you.
I also prefer the old design. The new Blades look much thinner and with rounded details, the Greek Blades seem to be heavier... I dunno, but something makes me like the OG Blades more too
So I think that the blades themselves have cursed him. He had to kill his family because it was a wife and a daughter. Where as Atreus is a son, so Kratos can pass them down
Hey kapitan kuba please hear me out I watched your Athena theory and I support it 90% Remember the last boss fight? Freya apeard out of nowhere for baldur Why? Like you said Athena told her that he killed every single God in his realm or country whatever... So she was worried about baldur I don't believe the "I should make peace with my son" thing She said that because she thinks kratos doesn't know her son is baldur (Which he knows) She also knew they could purchase green arrows so she knew kratos was capable of killing a immortal I mean there's no reason for her searching for baldur after the world serpent defeat right? She knew something was happening Do you still believe in your theory or not? Love the chanel btw
THIS MAN HAS COVERED THE WHOLE FUKKIN STORY OG GOD OF WAR RAGNAROK.... NOW NO FUN TO PLAY THE GAME CUZ THIS MAN ALREADY TOLD WHAT WIL HAPPEN IN ALL HIS THEORY VIDS
Tyr is more likely to be from the higher plane of existence because we know that he went to many other pantheons. But then again theres still a lot about odin that we don't know
@@marvelismarvelous8987 Because something big happened to MAKE Athena join the higher plane nothing like that has happened with Tyr or Odin yet so they would still be just regular Asgardian gods at this time
most people i talk to consider the newest novel secondary canon, mostly because there are a decent amount of contradictions within it too, for example, baldur impales kratos with a rock in the game, in the novel it says he used the leviathan axe, the second attack from modi didn't happen either :/
the god who "cursed" Kratos with the Blades of Chaos I think it could be Mars, the Roman God of war or maybe even Horus the Egyptian God of war. I personally think Horus would be the one to actually do it mainly because of his aspects which are War but also Protection, but then again I might be think to much about Loki NEEDING to be alive.
I can’t wait till Kratos does Egypt, him and Atreus can be taking a vacation there and wouldn’t ya know it, Ra is not happy about it and shenanigans ensue.
@@anonymousperson8211 You’re right now I imagine a montage of him killing Egyptian gods to the tune of Hoku-Perfect day with Kratos in a Hawaiian shirt and Atreus looking mortified 😂
Since the blade of chaos are made of chaos, and all other elements are born/made out of it, what if in the future blades of chaos can have any elemental attribute attached to it
A curse that is bonded that can only be broken by the ones who created the curse, but since kratos killed the one responsible for the curse, it can not be broken. (If this makes no sense feel free to give your opinion)
I feel Cory will probably give a nod to Jaffe in the future, and this all leads to the BoC's being smelted into the Grim Reaper's Scythe as far as long term plays.
