Why The Deep Is The Most Complex Character In The Boys 

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He’s better than a capybarnia

The Deep gave his character development arc to A-Train

Guess you could say he's a deep character

Based on the finale of Season 4, im sorry, guy is legit just an evil massive jerk💀

The Deep is really on Saul Goodman comedic relief

The Peak strikes again

He’s not complex. He’s just stupid. But he’s a great character

Good or Evil? You missed a third option, Douchebag! The Deep was in this category for most of the show, but now he's leaning towards full on evil

I would personally disagree with labeling him a psychopath - psychopaths, among other things like not feeling guilt, shame, remorse, also struggle from understimulation from situations that would be emotional for neurotypical people, causing them to not ex[erience/rarely experience anxiety and fear, and The Deep feels that a lot esp in the older seasons. Not sure about sociopathy too but I can`t argue for or against here. What I do think though, is that he has simply grown desensitized to death and murder. He has been hearing the voices of aquatic animals since he was 9 I believe - so picture that: since very early childhood, he lived in a world where one sentient species kills other sentient beings. Beings he can talk to, be friends with, beings that accept hom more then people ever did. And he watched people kill and eat his aquatic friends as if it`s nothing. From his perspective, it`s the same as a human killing another human being (it is made very ckear how he sees sealife as equal to people, considering he is attracted to them but not in a fetishist way, but rather the same way he`s attracted to human women). With a past like that - I am surprised he isn`t even MORE cold, like despite seeing this violence since childhood, he still tries to save the animals sometimes, and he was still worried when Homelander suggested he killed the senator. After that murder though - that`s when he in my opinion becomes completely broken. The next time he`s ordered to kill people, he doesn`t even hesitate, and from then on he only becomes more violent. I wonder still if he actually enjoys violence like he told Noir-2, or if he`s trying to convince himself he does to kinda be able to process that he is now killing people. Because when Ambrosia was dying, his discomfort was very apparrent - he still did it, but he took no joy from it. And right after he told HL "I would kill every fish in the ocean if you tell me to" - which contrasts his previous discomfort. This makes me think that he is trying to suppress the humanity that is left in him by sorta raising the degree of violence. Kind of like: hesitating on his first kill -> enthusiastically participating in further killings; feeling pain from killing Ambrosia -> "whatever, might as well kill every fish in the ocean". Idk, just a thought. I am curious as to what`s going on in his brain. I do agree with him being a horrible person tho, just pointing out he`s far from a psychopath level of callousness Also I love how you pointed out how he parallels A-Train but takes a different direction - I`ve been talking abt this for years and now with S4 it`s pretty much confirmed

The Peak

2:44 it was scary tell the deep said “ after I used it “ then I burst out laughing 🤣

kind of ironic back in season 1, we all assumed he would have a redemption arc but now he has almost hit the bottom and basically beyond redeemable

Holy SHIT the thumbnail aged like milk. So I guess The Deep is really evil after all. But still a damn interesting and complex character for sure. Anyways, The Boys season 4 finale was amazing, and I will be making a video on it soon. Be sure to sub and get notified!

Deep thoughts about the Deep

He’s the peak enough said!!…

just the title of this video crosses the moral event horizon

The Peak is PEAKING

I think he’s just deep in an octopus tbh

The Deep ranked 6th when he studied at Godolkin you know. He is still stronger than 90% of supes out there. He is weaker than Kimiko and Starlight but those two are among the top 10% of supes already.

Long stories short: The Deep is the only movie / series punching bag I feel no compassion for.

I’m glad you’re saying this. I feel like after killing ambrosias the deep has snapped. Embracing his role as homelander’s tool. Right now he is committed to the cause out of self preservation. Maybe he can have a redemption if homelander dies and vought falls.

the deep was never this evil in my opinion, its just that for whatever reason the boys season 4 are now portraying the deep as a monster. Bro in real life the deep is an outcast and his best friends are the sea creatures and now the show is trying to convince me that all of a sudden because sister sage called him a superior being he is ok with killing the only creatures who he actually resonates with? The deep was done the most service in season 2 i think because at least the character had heart and felt like an actual human being

i always thought of the deep’s arc as a way of showing how insecure people can become indoctrinated by hateful groups and ideologies. He hated his gills and body especially after becoming the victim of SA by a human woman, so it’s natural he would gravitate towards an ideology that promotes super heroes over humans and loving the powers V gives you.

He needs to have some serious moments where we are shown what deep really wants.A person cannot be one dimensional like pure evil or pure good.Deep should be a goofball and comic relief for 80% but should be serious for atleast 20% of time.A train got hero arc he should get atleast somr arc right whether he becomes evil or good or whatever.That ashley threating scene was scary as hell,he needs more scenes and more fight scenes like he got beat up by a train and star light and star light got 2 times this season but deep got 0

Sorry for the loud background music lol. Just realised how distracting it was as I rewatched it with headphones.

Guess you could say he's a peak hero

3:11 I only just realized now that Homelander was standing in the back! He was probably so proud of The Deep at this moment. 😅

4:44 I don't know, I feel like his true nature was always on display, and much of the redemption shit he did was for show.

He is one of my favourite characters. Thought he would even redeem himself

You missed the chance to say: Good or just Deep?

Deep’s book, Deeper, was the deepest shit ever.

I mean, he's the Peak 🤷‍♂️

I think The Deep will Kill Homelander in the end, it would make perfect sense.

Someone get this man in Venice he’d be unbeatable

0:43 THE PEAK

I loved how unfazed he was when he claimed to be a capybarnia to Ashley

you forgot when in the 1st season, episode 7, specifically from 28:52 to 29:39 when after he went to Ohio as a punishment from Vought, he was raped and mocked by a girl he took back to his place. That was important, opening up to theories and also his bad habit of over eating as a coping mechanism.

The Deep always tried to redeem himself, but these efforts always met with failure. Now he's just basically grasping at anything that might get him some level of success. His character can never be redeemed, because as a society we are less willing to forgive what Deep did to Starlight compared to what A-Train did to Robin. Unlike Hughie, we never got a chance to see Deep when he was young and idealistic. Both became desensitized to violence by being manipulated by toxic role models but we only get to empathize with Hughie. He doesn't get a chance to talk about how he got to where he is, unlike Maeve. He doesn't get to explain his POV because that would make him less effective as a punchline for jokes and gags. Deep and Ashley are both abused by those above them and lash out at those below them. Both are not taken seriously. It'll be curious to see if Ashley gets a redemption arc in S5. I'm curious to see Deep and Neo-Noir's role going forward. Will they continue to be treated as jokes?

His scenes with Noir saying bro are hilarious 😂 I'm impressed how a single word can be so funny 😂😂

The peak has cake

Very good video, just turn down a little bit the music because it makes hard to watch on the phone

the peak of the peak is still to PEAK 🔥🔥

The deep doubling down on being evil doesn't make him complex at all it makes him incredibly one note he is purely here to laugh at. How has he gone through any change as a character when he profoundly confronts starlight saying he does not apologise.

its a really good well made video you should be a big channel, keep it up

Lmfao calling The Deep evil for killing a few fish in equation to A train killing numerous people and being the hero is pretty hysterical

I read a comment saying they considered giving him a redemption arc. Which I'm guessing was why they gave him those sympathetic moments early on. But they were afraid of the backlash they would get for redeeming an r word.

Basically the deep and a train's switched around what we thought and were expecting

He's like the Joshu Higashikata of The Boys

i think the latest episode shows

I do wonder if Homelander has any inkling of attachment to the Deep being the only remaining original member at this point and has shown himself to be fiercely loyal and at times also favored by the big boss. While there was the “Blow A-Train” moment, it seemed like Homelander wanted the Deep to stand up for himself. That said if he really needs to, I don’t doubt he’ll kill the Deep, I don’t think he has anything near a relationship with him as he did with the original Black Noir.

THE PEAK

He tries so hard to be good after s1, i felt so bad that he gave up

The peak

A-Train & Maeve will be in season 5 but The Deep will be the first to die instead of Firecracker who I see will OD on pills at some point.

Shows that cowardly characters don't always change for the better and instead even get worse.

THE PEAK VS HOMELESSLANDER WILL GO HARD🔥🔥🔥🔥

The man, The legend, The peak.

Evil and deeply broken are not mutually-exclusive, "evil" people are not typically of healthy minds

The Peak is the greatest character in television history

Erm don’t you mean The Peak? (The peak.. peak of humanity)

The peak of human evolution the king of the seven seas , The Deep .

He's a Nice guy

The peak 🔱 🌊

this is some intellectual yap 😭🙏

Wait.... killing the OCTOPUS was the worst thing he's done?? Wow. How did they make that happen?

Real eyes realize real lies 😌

missed title opportunity to say he's the deepest character lmao

The Deep is deeply broken, not evil. But that's worse, because you can maybe change the mind of a person doing evil but you can't change stupid.

W Analysis

Missed opportunity to say he is the deepest character

I feel like the deep had much potential but he himself wasnt willing or too scared to go through the growing pains like A train and thus his character arc went downhill

@IntellectualYapper Yes, he's asinine, he's selfish, he's cowardly, and he's gullible but..........he could redeem himself but he will face punishment!

He killed innocent people without a sweat so yeah he is evil

The deep was done dirty, in the comic he was the mature one of the seven and seemed to be morally better than most of the memebers, the show seem to make him lame, he seems to be a good person but doesn't have the will to be himself he still gets manipulated for fear of homelander and wanting to belong and feel respected i feel like his redemption would've been better than a-train considering how awful a-train is.

Don't hate the actor playing the character.

Maybe its because of trauma made him go crazier

he's evil, there's not much room for debate

of course hes fucking evil lmao

The Deep could be a better character if the writers took him seriously

The deep’s got nothing on frenchie going woke.. that’s a villain

He was just a jerk until he snapped and became a ruthless person in the end of season 4

The cover aged like a femboy after 25

Being funny doesnt mean he is good

He’s just evil now

Great video

Deep is pure evil. Sure he’s funny. But he needs to go next season.

bruh its a good character but calling it the most complex is a stretch. also he is plain evil no doubt. he kinda feels bad for some shit but that never stopped him for going through with it

Infuenced and is broken

Next time, could you go deeper into details? (No pun intended) I know your name is yapper but I notice very little substance in your story. This video feels more like you watched a few episodes of last season and just recorded your reaction after. For people who have also seen the show your telling them nothing new. Maybe you should rewatch the show couple of times and start noticing things that other people don’t, I think that would make it a little more interesting. Also skip (or shorten) the introduction. I already clicked on this video because I knew what it was about so you don’t have to introduce me to the subject. This comment is meant as honest feedback and not as hate. I honestly want to see you improve, so keep going at it. Kisses 😚 ❤❤

What is even being good or evil ?

Every character is well written except sister sage

bro couldnt spell ashely

Ah yes white man has walked here

I still see Deep as good person compared to atrain...atrain killed people...deep only killed octopus lol

The deep is not complex at all dawg 💀

I call this The "The Deep" Effect. Chase Crawford is GORGEOUS, hes arguably the most conventionally attractive cast member. But his actions are so hideous that hes gross and completely unattractive! But i cannot think of a SINGLE female character that has the same effect happen to them, eg so outrageously hot yet does actions so hideous and disgusting that she becomes completely unattractive no matter what. Would love to be wrong on this if anyone has examples

I wont lie deep wasnt a complex character, the show just had shit writing for him going in circles with no clear plan. It isnt complexity its just bad writing

Evil 😅

bad writing: bad writing (the boys tv show):