Why the Divergent Series Went Down the Toilet 

Same asf

Serves them right

I was just thinking the same thing... had to google to remind myself. I really enjoyed the books as well. But the films were not good.

I forgot about it tbh

No one did. That's actually funny!

YES!!!! I liked the first book and thought what a good stand alone it would have made. Especially after reading the second and hating it so much!! I have always just thought of it as a stand alone. Even the movies. Only watched the first one, because both book and movie has a nice rap up and didn't need a sequel.

Preach.

Its open ended but closed enough that you can just read it and imagine what happens

It’s should’ve been a duology

Jennifer Bahena Ehhh I mean insurgent kind of sucked

😭 wait how old were you?

Dvnní Xo oh I was like 11 or 12 so still a child 😂

OMG I got punched in the face in school for saying I thought Edward's nippels looked weird

@@felicia5395 lol

😂😂😂

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😂😂😂😂

@@richardgray9089 wtf 😶

@@Requiem-kg6te what was ur favorite scene?

I'm so annoyed by that meme comment by now.

the thing that really drives me nuts about the last book is the author could have made him somewhat ok when she gave him a chance to sacrifice himself.....but then that opportunity just goes to Tris because she's "special"

UGH I couldn't stand him. I just remembered that this must be why I used to implicitly dislike/distrust Ansel Elgort oops

Tbh I find this with all the characters. Do yall remember that scene when they make fun of Tris nose like WhAT

He was so bland like straight up I guess that’s kinda the point of him but he did absolutely nothing

mathilde mykløy You mean... caleb 😂

This comment sums up my teen years tbh

Those were the good old days 😢

+Mary J-In a way, it's a mutated progression of the love triangle that was perpetrated by Twilight. And I may be too "old" for this, but for the dystopian series, I just can never understand why these teenagers, who are repeatedly put in life and death situations, where often the entire world as they know has been upended and annihilated-the Apocalypse has come and gone and often much of their own families have been upended and killed in the process-and SOMEHOW, they still have time and hormones to pine after the two equally hot boys (or girls but mostly boys. . .) and is indecisive over which hot boy they should choose. .. Give me a break. . . And arguably, I don't think that slapped me in the face so blatantly as with The 5th Wave. Aliens have decimated billions of human lives. Cassie's mom was killed by an alien virus to where she watched her own mother slowly die. . .Cassie's father was murdered by a militant cult and that militant cult took her brother away to where she's not even sure if her brother is even still alive. Then the plot LITERALLY STOPS when she's injured and rescued by a charming, oh so super hot guy who tends to her and cares for her. A guy who turns out to be a host alien. . .shock. . .When she pines and trembles for this super hot guy she barely even knows while. . .she is supposed to find out whether her brother is even alive. (And it turns out he's being groomed and turned into a child solider for that cult. . .) Meanwhile that super hot guy she pined for in high school is still alive.. . and. . .naturally. . .she will meet up with him later and she will endlessly pine and moan over which super hot guy she should pick. . . The book had so much potential, an actual difficult survival story, but once the plot LITERALLY STOPS when Cassie is being tenderly treated and caressed by the hot (alien) guy. . .I just gave up. . .Same bullshit, same rancid vomit I don't want to deal with anymore. . .

Fera Flauna I agree, I had to read that for English and I got pretty far but as soon as she met the guy (I forget his name) I literally could not finish it and ended up having to listen to the audiobook in the background while I did other stuff

Emma Brook-If you care, his name is Tobias. Or Four if you'd rather. Per Divergent's tradition, every name has to be bafflingly convoluted. (Tris is short for Beatrice. . .okay. . .) He is supposed to be trained as a merciless killer, finehorned and sharpened by the cruelest teachers, or something stupid like that. . .until he falls madly, deeply in love with Tris. . . Same thing happens in The 5th Wave. Evan Walker, or the alien that took over Evan Walker's body, is a parasite that invaded his host's body when the boy was still a toddler. Basically, the aliens have "sleeper agents" where the parasites wake up from a dormant sleep, kill their host, and take over their host's body and have all their host's previous memories. Evan is 18 years old, still a teenager (body wise), so I don't have to mention how f'ing stupid that is that the aliens dropped the parasites into bodies to be woken up once the hosts reach teenage years. With a teenage body and the remains of a teenage mind, the parasites would still have to effectively go through puberty and raging hormones to where several of them. . .probably will turn coat once they discover another pretty young thing that lands their way. . .(Hey, worked for Benedict Arnold. . .He was an American spy who turned British. . .after a beautiful woman convinced him to. . .So yeah. . .one of the most infamous traitors. . .did so because he wanted to score. . .Typical. . .) Like Four/Tobias, Evan was born and groomed into a merciless, cold, remorseless killer. . .until he comes across a pretty teenage girl who he suddenly has the hots for. . .And somehow, despite being an alien and a born killer, he knows how to bathe, treat, and nurse a sick/injured teenager back to health. . .Give me a fucking break. . .

Spy kids 3D had better cgi than this 😂

you dare disrespect Spy Kids in that manner??

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@Speckled Legs have fun with that, it's really an inspiring story

Don't do spy kids bad xD

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lol

Also there is also the "Girl", a character who's only characteristic is being a girl (usually seen when all the other characters are male)

@@geegeep lol

I remember finding a better ending on fanfiction.net and being so happy

bro i wrote one of those on wattpad as soon as i finished allegiant

i remember this girl i used to follow on instagram wrote like 40 chapters worth of a different ending that was actually satisfying but i don’t remember how it actually ended

Literally me with 'One of Us is Lying' omg-

m_eta_morpheus -I had an interesting conversation with one of my friends about the Divergent series, and when we talked about the ending... well... we didn’t know if we didn’t like the ending or if we didn’t like the whole third book. We concluded that the ending could have been amazing (in a tragic way) if the third book didn’t feel like a rehash of the first. I don’t think I could come up with a better third book concept, but I understand all of you when you need something better for an ending. Tris’ death just didn’t have the right kind of impact for what the third book was about and who the villains were (and how they were developed). Oi, I think I could ramble all day about these things. Lol.

When I read this he said it.

Kelsey Partridge The actor who plays tris literally dates her brother , her enemy and the leader hahah in other films

Kelsey Partridge HAHAHHHA

Did you mean: Pretty Little Liars

The fault in our stars AND The spectacular now😂😂

WHOA WHAT A CONCEPT

Impossible. Only choose one.

WHAT?!?!

Impossible. Settle for one like the rest of us

I’m pretty sure the big reveal was that Divergents are the real normal humans and everyone else is just that one characteristic because SCIENCE.

It was ass and noth8ng happened

bruh that was so fucking ass he sounded like some robot and they only showed the crappy scenes (i think they had the kissing scene though but im pretty sure that sucked too)

Turtle Anton Fr

its literally on my bookshelf lmao oof

I rented the ebook for a little bit... I remember NOTHING

Sunday shoes - Yup. You've heard it here. The entire motivation for your trilogy's ending: "Um, in this one book, the um- the protagonist? Yeah, they live, and I don't want to be a copy cat, so my character? Yeah, my- my character has to die." Like, if simply having your protagonist live in the end is enough to make your series too similar to another, I think you're kinda there already... Literally endless things a living person could do, and none of them would set your story apart from The Hunger Games? You need to do a lot more editing to fix your problem, then... Diverging, if you will.

God is it true ? I'm puzzled. It's not supposed to be your only motivation when killing a character ffs

That seems to be a trend in recent years, to decide the direction/ending of a story not based on what comes naturally to this specific plot, but only based on how to subvert reader's expectations/be different from other works, even if it doesn't work at all for that specific story.

I also remember vividly a comparison with Harry Potter, along of the lines of sacrifice and everything???? And basically how Tris had to die lmao where Harry didn't truly die and maybe it would have made more sense/been more tragic if he did???? And, already hating Allegiant, I went like bye,,,,, A main character doesn't have to die for an ending to be more powerful or make sense

Oh shit

Ava's Reads lmaooooooo😂😂😂😂 tbh!!!

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he wishes it didn't happen

@@creepyradiohead lol

Ava's Reads - If that's the case, he's probably buried that shirt, by now.

oh no...

Maybe she was just using the adjective and not the faction???

@@luuuuux_ no she was definitely referencing the books

@@midnighthope7752 oh, dear. I feel bad for you guys.

@@midnighthope7752 That's rough buddy.

that's pretty impressive though, even if it wasn't that good. did you get it published?

Wait, did you actually end the trilogy? Cool.

I’m currently 14 and writing a dystopian x sci-fi story, but I’ve researched into writing and the genre’s tropes to make sure it’s at least decent. Probably has a better ending than Allegiant though.

Moon-Vo!d What’s your story about?

@@synflwr Yeah I'm trying to write one aswell but its mainly just a altered carbon fanfic

Bella Crafts 😂😂

Because that was the only good book in the series 😭😭😂😂

You spelled it Pervy 😂

pervy Jackson..... I'm dying 😂😂😂

@@keiishine omg i didnt even notice that lol 😂😂

I don't remember anything that occured in these books 💀💀

All I remember is there was this guy who was gay for Tori's brother. That's it. That's the whole series for me.

I never read the last book. I barely remember the second one but I do remember the parts towards end when they climb the walls and basically four is a ‘broken’ person and just an anomaly compared to tris DNA and I just felt that the story plot was slowly falling so I never bothered reading the last book 😅😅😂

D.B. Cooper wait i thought toris brother died

@@sunglasses2186 He wanted to sacrifice himself, but at the last second Tris was like:"you are too much of a loser" and took his place.

Lmaooo you made me open my hp 10 i hadnt touched in years to check

nunya business And is it?

Legit thought the same thing

DaydreamingNerd 2106 I read it and I hated it so much. Not going into it, but being a survivor of child abuse watching her completely fuck it up with Four pissed me off. She clearly doesn’t know what she’s talking about, especially with her attempts at what I think was supposed to be PTSD. Basically watching her get everything wrong about everything that I personally have experience with kind of sucked. //end unsolicited four rant im sorry

sol phoyu sorry I disagree. As someone who was abused, I did relate to Tobias’s pain from Marcus. Remember, PTSD and mental disorders are different for everyone.

DaydreamingNerd 2106 To be fair, I read the Four book and I thoroughly enjoyed it; it didn’t deviate from the heart and soul of the original books as dramatically as Allegiant did. However, I do see what you’re saying and agree. The whole thing was drawn out painfully towards the end.

I’m not 100% sure, but didn’t she begin writing from four’s perspective and didn’t like it, so she changed to tris? So she didn’t write something new for the four book Correct me if I’m wrong btw

@@maddy1327 Love the profile pic, lol. This has absolutely nothing to do with anything, but I had to say it.

Insurgent wasnt that bad but Allegiant was dumpster fire

can confirm all 6 steps 😂😂

Omg frrrrr after I read we can be mended by Veronica Roth I rewatched all the hunger games to make myself feel better I hate Christina she really did tris dirty 🤬 I’m not a fan of the divergent series any more for sure

honestly the first movie was good and the second was 50/50 and the last was just plain bad i was just spit by facts and my mind was like dont process this its not worth it.

I went from 1, to 2, skipped to 5, and then 6.

I know right

yeah, honestly I hated it. Not that she died, but that it felt like a pointless death. There was no build up or anything. It didn't make sense to the plot, unlike for example the deaths in harry potter or the hunger games. It felt like terrible 'surprise writing' and just ruined it for me. Personally I enjoy rereading and watching the first movie/book for comfort (it's nostalgic for me, kinda the same with the first twilight movie and all the books) but I can't go further than that.

Exactly, except the houses are kinda one dimensional and stupid

GiuliaSlade lowkey hogwarts houses

GiuliaSlade So it’s basically Hogwarts Houses

And bad.....

cerulean 14 year old me would have been TRIGGERED by this but like. you right

Smoosh Goo , this is the best insult you can use for a cinematic action scene

Smoosh Goo nah, more like a direct to dvd Disney sequel lmaooo

Hey, the fight scenes in Wendy Wu: Homecoming Warrior were actually fantastic. Wires and all.

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To be fair they spent the entire budget on Tris trying to stab Peter with a knife earlier in the movie

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op where’s the essay

IKR! I was so hyped hen reading the books that I even got my friend to start reading it. I was reading the last book and questioning is this going to be to identical to the hunger games and worse?( I love the hunger games don’t get me wrong) Then she died and I didn’t cry too much cause I was in class and I had a feeling she would live by some miracle BUT NO. The story line of the last book was kinda bad but it wood be a good book. But Tris died and that made the book trash to me. Like he said so many teens could relate to her and I related to her since my mind was like hers then she died and what does that tell teens? That you can do all these heroic things and just die? Idk sorry it’s long lol. Edit: I just realized how many spelling mistakes I have lol.

oh man, my goodreads review on this book when i first read it is terrifying

lmao i tried to read it like 3 times, never finished it tho

I vaguely even remember his relationship with tris but I remember them fighting about each other’s safety? He was rather possessive because all he wanted was her to stay alive because he was supposedly “in love with her” but after everything you just mentioned it seems their whole relationship was built off of nothing.

Wait that happened I don’t even remember

@@icantthinkofadecentnamemyd2869 in the books they were bestfriends in the end, I don't remember reading anything about them getting together so idk ab that

@@ajgjngfthyfbk7564 yes, they get married in a short story at the end of FOUR. It was so weird.

I don't treat this as canon....

Preech!!!

lmaoo 😂

I remember that I DNFed the book- just couldn't get into it, and I couldn't understand how it got so much hype, either!

I actually really liked the book series

@@FatimaZahra-lu8bf I liked that book series as well. Not a top fav but it was pretty well enough put together if you like the darker slant on teen dystopian. Compared to Divergent the ending felt much more earned. Reading it you could tell very quickly it was not going to work well as a movie series though. Grim hopelessness is a really tough sell to the summer popcorn nomming masses.

It's amazing for being more realistic... It was horribly grim

It actually was pretty good, book wise like the ending was pretty good in my opinion

Thank you for saying this! Uriah was the bessst

I don't think he was even mentioned in the first movie and he was such a big character

Honestly he was the best character

Yep

Thank you!!! Finally someone said it

🤣

Yeah having your whole trilogy culminate in eugenics was uh...a bold choice

Wasn’t the ending literally “the edited genes that make people violent are bad? N-nuh uh! That’s racist!!”

bippity boppity omg spoiler alert *surprised pikachu*

Actually, I think she wanted to kill Tris from the very beginning because she thought that killing a main character was cool. I remember she saying something about how Harry Potter could have been better if Harry die in the end. So she planned to kill her from the beginning, not for the plot, not because it meant something but because she thought it was so 'original' to do that. So yeah you are kinda of right

Funny since hunger games is a rip off of battle royale 😂

Lol

Fox Spirals shut the fuck up with this shit

Same! Throughout the entire video, I was like "What even happened in Insurgent?" Seriously could not remember

Insurgent was dauntless and euridite having a mini war that drags on and on. And Tris fake dies. Insurgent in a nutshell.

eadsk99 That is... actually really what it is

I only remember what happened in Insurgent because I keep rereading the book

@Kimberly Anne It was a serum from the Amity. It was administered to her because she got into an altercation with Peter.

ganavi jelio yeah it’s not good at all, and I find the characters so boring...

The only series I've ever dnfed was this. I read book one and yeeted it to the used book store as soon as possible.

Noodle Katz i’m so happy I didn’t spend money on it but listen to them on audiobook instead

@@paninisen honestly I wish my parents hadn't spent money on it

Loll same I think I repressed reading the 2nd and 3rd ones. I completely forgot about them them but then he mentioned some details and talked about her dying and I'm like oh shit right I've actually read them

👏👏👏

You win

get out

Amen

Very much so, I watched insurgent exclusively because Theo James was extremely handsome.

PyroShayNiac honestly same ☠️

jaziybabe he’s mine

Tiff Prendergast you can have him...as long as you are ok with me deeply appreciating his hotness 😘

Christina was my favorite character because she was really cool for some reason. Why did she have to end up with four of all people? Boring, bland four? Why?

Four was there just to be a love interest nothing more. He was as bland as boxed pancakes with no syrup.

@@londonfleurina2388 this analogy sent me. I’m like Tris now.

@@luuuuux_ lol. dead?

@@londonfleurina2388 yes 😔

wattpad wasnt a thing back then

Ah sorry I accidentally disliked your comment 🤪

Piggy No name we both know it wasn’t a accident (‘::::: -

Mxther Mae oh damn why you disliking on me out here 😔

There is better books in wattpad, if you dig in deeper and deeper and deeper and deeper and go a little more deeper u can find some good gems.

Omg all of my friends and I cosplayed for the opening of divergent as the factions... I also had posters of divergent on my wall for way too long lol

Man I had three divergent posters on my wall all through middle school all of them were fourtris smh 😂

I have the faction stickers in my drawer still! Glad I never committed to sticking them on anything or that would've been embarrassing now

She is 51 actress but aged to well for this role

The way I remember reading this description omg

Honestly, (and I'm not specifically talking about Evelyn here; I don't think I ever watched far enough to see her), the last thing I care about is whether the characters physically look like their roles, and I don't understand why people fixate on it so much. There are many, many things that are vastly more important than that when casting actors - especially because the characters look different to every reader. No matter who they cast, SOMEONE will complain that the character doesn't look how they imagined them. Because everyone's imagination is slightly different. Everyone interprets "hooked nose" and "tough aura" differently. They will never make everyone happy. It is not good to try TOO hard to make the actor look identical to the character as described in the books. Availability, acting skill, and chemistry with the other actors are ALL more important. I'm happy with the character looking wrong (as long as appearance is not desperately important to the plot) if those things are on point.

Ikr! That annoyed me so much!

going along with that, *why the hell does Tobias look like he's 29, he's 18*

oooh sis, thats A LOT of work

nunya business FRR

Like the comment before mine, but that does sound fun. What chapter did you choose?

i had the same assignment and i chose this book too lol

Yoooo that’s actually such a cool prompt

More like: "Hey kids, you should forgive people, even if they dipped and left you with an abusive father or bertrayed you and literally walked you to your own execution. You should totally die for them too."

Which is probably the truth if you think about it. Have you noticed in most stories, the hero has some factor of luck working for them. Some accident that helped them in a dire situation or a by chance encounter that let them learn some important plot element. Irl I would imagine most of us in that situation would die horribly having no idea what hit us. Like TSOIAF, most people don't get happy endings. Sometime bravery isn't enough, I guess you should choose intelligence over bravery if u wanna survive

Well, you either die a hero or you live Long enough to see yourself become the villain. Which would you rather?

Basically yeah 🤣

Spy Kids was a better movie

@@nicodifictional540 it never was

Spy kids is a classic

@@taskmaster668 LMAOOOOO it's just facts, spy kids 1 and 2 are classics, and while the effects don't hold up they don't take away from the movie's quality

Pls, you’re so right 😭

Your fanfic was probably better tbh

Oh oh share the link

I probably read it at some point

Don’t worry, I wrote AWFUL Dramione fanfics and then submitted them for a contest at school with the names changed to basic white names. I think I 1-upped you.

That fanfic writer life changes you fam

The contrast between the first book and the second book is so jarring. I remember as a 12 year old being GLUED to the pages of Divergent and reading it in days and then I literally could not get through Insurgent

@@jeepersjava (Very late reply lol) Me tooooo I read them for the first time last year and I was just so bored with insurgent

Badum tssssss

I say that all the time just to make fun of the directors/whoever the hell made the films trash

omg I thought I was the only who had this problem, I honestly wanted to tell Four to wear a tampon and eat cake because he was acting the same way I do when I'm on my period

I had to do the same thing while reading Allegiant! Omg. I simply couldn’t tell the difference between Tris and Tobias’s perspectives.

It was so bad

Savannah oh

Right?? It was so weird to read their alternating perspectives. Giving each character a unique voice in a first person setting is extremely difficult, but I always appreciate the effort. Like Red Queen did a similar thing and didn’t quite stick the landing, but I was able to follow along without much trouble. Allegiant was just baaaaad.

I am SO HAPPY RU-vid recommended this to me

Ainsley McFarland same

Same lol

I would love to see that

The movies should burn in Tartarus

Erin Hughes ha I love that, that’s a good one

I mean, they were so bad Rick literally made a letter asking not to see it, soooo

@@tanukimika wait... Really??

Oh yeah ahah

i have this tattoo btw lol no regrets

OH MY GOSH

@@marisandoso I meam is a pretty tattoo

@@sabrinacosta5667 IT IS so theres no reason to regret

yuktika ngl I cried so hard that my sister was legitimately worried for me

i made the mistake of reading the last book at work and i cried for like hours and then fired

I think everyone had a crush on Tobias tbh 😂

I was cursing so much. i went ranting to my mum and i was crying. A freaking man in a wheelchair killed her!

I was cursing so much. i went ranting to my mum and i was crying. A freaking man in a wheelchair killed her!

A what book?

Easily one of the books of all time

Forreal lmao. I can't remember the plot of Divergent while I still get sad at Rue's death in Hunger Games.

Imagine writing a book

Only read the first book I know it's a crime kill me

I_I Diamond all the books are amazing ngl

I’ve never read the Hunger Games ahahah

My brother was in the room we just finished mockingjay pt 1 and he heard that. I had to convince him katniss died

Sophia Adames oh no

Danielle Doyle same! Was it even in theatres?

Literally same I remember thinking about these movies and I was like what ever happened to the third one and looked it up. I was so confused when I saw it had been made cause I had heard nothing about it

Wait the third book was made into two movies? I never knew! I was just so disappointed after seeing allegiant I just didn’t care any more. Insurgent was nothing like the book, but somehow allegiant was even less.

the third movie was unbearable

They only made the 1st film of the third book!!

Paige Philipps currently looking back at my copy feeling ashamed that i read it four times in middle school

This book made me realise I didn't like Four either

I can’t even bring myself to read it

I think that book was still okay, like it wasn't bad but 'we can be mended' completely annihilated the entire series.

I thought it was ok we got a little insight into his mindset and it made him more human

Adiba Arefin yeah it pissed me off that he ended up with Christina! Like might as well throw the whole story in the trash now

he was just nice to look at. nothing more nothing less

I hated him so much it's not funny. I fucking hated the guy, and I don't even remember why.

@Rida KOTWAL in my opinion i couldn't even tell if we were reading Tris or Four's pov. It all got blurred toward the middle, then Tris died. The end.

@@londonfleurina2388 Right? No wonder they are together, they think exactly the same as each other!

HUH?! Legit don't remember that yikes

I'm sorry WHAT WHEN

That’s a THING??

I hate Four. (Nothing against Theo James, i just hate his character.)

wHaT?

Same. It’s so snazzy.

I think they did go to Amity for a hot minute, but it was honestly so meh. The leader (?) Just went "no you can't fight each other", but when the army (?) Shows up she goes "No we'll hide you don't worry about it fam". I can't remember whether it made sense or not but it seemed like she was sacrificing her own people to save the 3 main characters.

Well she didn't give herself an ugly ass short haircut like in the movie, she just cuts her hair to like her shoulders.

That happens in the film too

Betty Cat Yes!!!!

I agree. However gymnastics clubs like to use Divergent soundtrack a lil bit too much, kind of ruined it for me

There are lots of things I liked as a kid or teen that I grew out of, but can still acknowledge as being good pieces of literature for that age group. Redwall is a great series for 10 year olds, and Harry Potter (while beloved by adults) is definitely a series for 10-14 year olds.

@@Saibellus sis don't even compare THE harry Potter series to this. It don't add up. It just don't.

@Cleverly relatable Username I wouldn't say deep themes and being for a younger audience are mutually exclusive. For e.g. the books look a lot at the experience of losing an older figure in your life right around the age many of the readers would be thinking about or going through losing their grandparents.

true. my friends are over fangirling over these books/stories but when the hype went out thwy be like meh like everything didn't happen

Yuuup

Same, i didnt even bought the book

Same but with Insurgent

7th grade me was NOT having it with the 5 page science sections. I still finished though but man it was hard

Zalia Salley I read the whole book and I highly regret it. Literal filth and Insurgent already left a bitter taste in my mouth after going through that wreck.

I couldnt even start reading Insurgent

I think it has to do with the actress also playing Hazel Grace in The fault in our Stars at the same time .

I thought they did but it might've just been mentioned and they just moved on. It would have been really nice to see some sort of cinematic parallel between the haircut in the first movie appear in the second one, but alas. The director really didn't put much thought into the second film at all and it shows :(

Yes that scene in the book was pretty good

Wait, I swear like one of the first scenes in Insurgent was her like cutting her wig off to have her short hair? I mean, then again I think they just did a throwaway line of "I needed a change" and then they move on, so it didn't really do much for the story itself.

I think they did. It's been a while since i read those book and saw those movies but I'm pretty sure in both of them the hair cutting scene was there. 😅

she does it in the novel, she does it in the movie and then the franchise fell apart lol so ur right

Informative comments here. Thanks guys.

Basically like Sampson lol

FOR REAL. but I cried too :(

Ikr! You cannot just kill a main protagonist.

Only time I've ever physically slammed a book down onto the table I was MAD

Kaitlyn Ann seriously wth

Pablo Gutierrez The condemned: am I nothing to you?

Don't get me wrong, I really loved The Hunger Games, but it would be a blatant lie to say that this is a completely original concept.

No one every claimed that people fighting to the death for an auidence's enjoyment was an original concept. I fully believe that it was a coincidence that Hunger Games had a similar concept to Battle Royale because with the human history of things like Gladiatorial fights, of course more than one person is going to come up with the idea of children fighting to the death on camera. They had completely different plots, but that core concept was something no one pretended to be truly original.

Minecraft Hunger Games: **am I a joke to you???**

Ancient Rome: Am I non-existent to you?

IT WAS THOUGHHH

Same! I remember my friends really tried to get me into the divergent series but I couldn't even finish the first book

I read the first two books and I was sooo bored. Tris was annoying, I only read it bc I liked Christina & Four. Tris could've died and I wouldn't have minde.

Damn, you were a really smart 12 year old.

I literally can think about like 1 or 2 similar things.

yup.

Why is this so relatable

I watched the first movie a couple of times, still a solid movie, but I never watched the others. I tried the second one but I just couldn't make it more then 10 min. I also didn't like the second book, so thats probably why. I just think Divergent should have been a stand alone.

I legit thought only the first one existed

😂😂😂

I agree, I think that was a really cool idea. It's not discussed much (from what I remember??), despite it being a major point on which the society is built lol

flying banana yeah I thought they would split the book up into five parts so that they could explore each place, or maybe six to come to a conclusion but regardless I’m a sucker for sociology and history (especially when it’s fictional and you can infuse cool sci-fi and fantasy stuff into it, which is why I liked Hunger Games so much) and I think I would have liked it better had it gone that route

I agree. That was honesly the most interesting part of the books (I've only red first and a half of second) and that idea was what kept me trying to finish the second book. I didn't tho

fionatastic0.0 that would have been so much better if they split it up

*lies*

Lucy G wtf

Lucy G if hunger games was 110% then divergent is a 1milion%%%% remember that

@@cheriissabellaa8451 lol hell no

I think that divergent could have almost been just as good if.... the last book wasn’t trash 😂

s p some girls I know still do and we’re out of the YA demographic *shudders w you*

@@socialanxietydora4112 now that you said, I know one as well. *shrugs* to each their own I guess 😅

s p I still have a crush on Four lmaooooo. I DNF’d Allegiant because someone saw me reading it at school in 7th grade and told me Tris died. But Theo James is still hot and I still swoon so fight me.

Same, he’s still hot tho ngl

He's still a beautiful man

i do feel like overthrowing the government isn’t a necessary aspect of dystopias because there are early examples of dystopian novels where they don’t overthrow the government. hating a corrupt gvmt doesn’t = succeeding in overthrowing that gvmt. overly sarcastic productions has a good video discussing the dystopian genre!

Honestly, book wise, The Razorland Trilogy is a prime example of dystopian. Amazing character development and plot. Beautiful description and dialogue. One of my absolute favorites.

Flamingo Mac I totally agree that’s why I said they want it to change. Either the mc is going against it or is trying to overthrow it or anything along those lines. I guess I should have said when people say “I hate a corrupt gvm trope” is annoying

perksofbeingabookworm ohh yeah corrupt gvmt is very important for a dystopia so if people complain about it it’s a pretty stupid complaint

I was JUST thinking that 😂

He is the Jenny Nicholson of booktube, probably why I watch Caleb. Also I just watched Dumbo Slaps today

needs more porg

@@stanconnorstan4266 he IS the jenny nicholson of booktube, down to reading shitty books for their viewers!! The Dumbo Slaps video was excellent, i hope she'll do one on endgame

@@redacted8573 needs a 5 feet tall uber-porg to co-host every video tbh