Why the For Honor Community HATES Fighting SHAOLIN

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This one is a tough one, since i do enjoy this hero but i am not blind to his state of balance being off the deep end. i love this hero but i cannot deny his easy to play nature.
if you main shaolin i mean no offense to you like i do with every video im just stating how the community feels about heros.

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@RAPTORREX_ 25 дней назад

After talking about exploits, im 50/50 on if people should be banned, its on ubisoft to fix abusable exploits but its also on us to be better people and not abuse them. i still stand that people should have some sort of punishment for KNOWINGLY USING EXPLOITS FOR ADVANTAGES. but a perma Ban may be too harsh

@JonathanNormandy 25 дней назад

@@RAPTORREX_ maybe ban them until the bug is fixed, since you know they'll abuse it until it's gone. Then again I don't know how reliable Ubi is at fixing bugs, nevermind doing it quickly.

@RAPTORREX_ 25 дней назад

this bugs been around for a very long time probably a year and longer so its half ubisofts fault

@snowmang3320 25 дней назад

As a rep 80 shoulin main it does take some practice to consistently pull off the flicker. If you are animation reacting it can be very very hard to fight however it DOES NOT flicker an indicator ublike kioshins full block zone/light indicator flicker which ive seen also consistently abused. I think animation flicker is ok if its an input however indicator flicker is not cool cause it basically amounts to giving soft feints to characters who dont have them.

@MTF-EPSILON-11-5-NULL 25 дней назад

@@RAPTORREX_daddy did a back to back

@adrianhuerta4277 24 дня назад

Flicker tech on shaolin doesnt affect players who make reads. It only affects turtling reaction monsters looking to parry on animation. If you play like that, you deserve to suffer. And if you can't parry a flickered heavy on shaolin, you just suck man. Its not hard and even new players can do it. I never struggle fighting shaolin on any character. His ganks are strong, but so are nearly half the casts. His recoveries arent good enough to punish people like orochi, pirate, and vg can. When a shaolin bashes, you can simply dodge attack. Who would've thought! Bashes always being punishable by gb is a terrible idea and makes defense too strong. He's definitely a good character, but all of these points you made, except the ganking ones, are just stupid man.

@noahlockard7101 25 дней назад

Shaolin is the most criminally untalked about S tier hero. He has everything

@TheSuperSpud 25 дней назад

I do rly like playing him but I feel too bad a lot of the time lol

@youtubeyoutube5354 24 дня назад

No he doesn’t prove me wrong

@noahlockard7101 24 дня назад

@@youtubeyoutube5354 whats a property he doesn’t have?

@etheral-kl3kl 24 дня назад

@@noahlockard7101 Cant feint dodge attacks, his unblockable also got removed. Not all his lights are enhanced, he has no bleed damage... he has no hyper armor except his deflect... he is missing a lot of properties. Also, no soft-feints or dodge-recoveries.

@etheral-kl3kl 24 дня назад

@@noahlockard7101 Next time, maybe learn the character before making a bold statement.

@baldirthedwarf 25 дней назад

im glad someone finally brought up the flicker the people who abuse it think that there great at the game and act like it isn't a problem.

@adrianhuerta4277 24 дня назад

Stop reacting to animation and make a read. If a rep 20 can do it, you can too. Play the game like it was meant to be played and quit trying to just react and cheese. I believe in you champ!

@JonathanNormandy 24 дня назад

@@adrianhuerta4277 I didn't realize people use animations to predict movements. I've just been using that red arrow thing this whole time.

@juiceboxbzrk 24 дня назад

@@JonathanNormandy either works but really you just need to pick up on the way your opponent plays, the game is trying to simulate a fight, you have to anticipate and bait your opponents movements

@adrianhuerta4277 24 дня назад

@@JonathanNormandy they dont predict movements. They can see it and always parry by using cues from the animation. Using the red arrow and guessing if its a light or heavy is how its suppposed to be played. These players are basically playing like they have scripts, but they are really just reacting so they can always counter you.

@Blaze42020 24 дня назад

@@adrianhuerta4277so do you not know what a read is?

@JonathanNormandy 25 дней назад

Its crazy how the For Honor community hates fighting like half the heros that exist

@weskertambemjoga8261 25 дней назад

Half the game is broken Didnt expect so much people to agree with this

@DRAGONalpha117 25 дней назад

because balance is this game is a mirage

@itenshidoom 25 дней назад

Wouldn’t be this way if Ubisoft knew how to balance it.

@Dark_memes2 25 дней назад

@@itenshidoomit’s not the fact that they do not balance it well, it’s the fact that they balance the game at a snails fucking pace, like you’ll go 2 months with them only tweaking two damage numbers on heroes some seasons

@SkyNinja759 24 дня назад

@@Dark_memes2More like them adding new heroes to bloat the roster instead of giving reworks to the existing cast. You could Thanos snap half the cast and liqudate their feats, buttons, and themes to the rest of the cast to make the game more balanced. The more you add, the more complicated balancing the options are. Making a smaller but more in depth cast would make almost every hero viable. For example; why does Ocelotl exist when that could have been a Shaman rework? Why does VG exist when that could have been a Warlord or Valkrie rework? Jorm could have been a Raider rework. Why does Shaolin exist when it could have been a rework to old Shinobi? (Snap away the current rendition) BP could have been a Warlord or Conq rework. Kyoshin could be an Orochi or Kensei rework. Pirate and/or Nuxia could be a PK rework. Hitokiri could be a Shugoki rework. Even weird options like Medjay could be a LB rework (stancing the halberd for defense or offense) could have been a thing. We could have stopped adding new heroes after the Wu Lin dropped and all the Harbringers (BP, Jorm, Hito) as well as the Outlanders could have been complete overhauls. I know the reason is Ubisoft needed to produce money from the old titles to even have a scrap of developing funding, but the game could been so much better than what it is. Right now it's a tac board of pinning up new heroes and leaving the old cast to rot. Look at the lobbies; there's maybe ~3 Pre-Wu Lin viable heroes in the game, meanwhile the entire Outlander cast is insane and 2/3 Harbringers have stayed competitive. The tier list might as well swap out for a "date released, in ascending order" for the tiers.

@bekfistwolf8248 24 дня назад

Characters I enjoy fighting:warden, warmonger, raider, warlord. Everything else is either too weak(conquerer), rely on one type of move that is easy to counter but it means have to spam one type of move to ever beat them(shugoki), or is op(shinobi)

@derpyguy3611 24 дня назад

i started playing shaolin a bit before his rework was announced, but man, didnt know people dislike him that much

@davidwilkinson4634 17 дней назад

Honestly same XD

@financialproblems9308 12 дней назад

People are busy bitching about VG, Honestly would rather fight VG, I'm so tired of seeing shaolin and having to always lock in to beat him. With VG I atleast can punish her

@maggotbutter4636 24 дня назад

dude you should post the variety content here i'd love to see you talk about other shit you like, but thats just me. keep up the great work

@RAPTORREX_ 24 дня назад

i wish i could but looking at it from a channel health standpoint it wouldnt work. youtube pushes out my for honor content more than anything id post. and it would ruin channel numbers. thats why people make second channels its a lot of algorithm stuff

@videogamesss1000 24 дня назад

He can also zone after kick so it’s 4 options off of his kick

@ashisakiashikubi6597 25 дней назад

Man, zhanhu allows for some nasty fun plays. I love her so much. Honestly zhanhu feels like a honest orochi. Literally beautiful Also winner's advantage is better than blink!!!! 39 dmg heavy finishers babeeeeee

@thenuggster8247 18 дней назад

In what situation would you ever find yourself landing a heavy finisher?

@ashisakiashikubi6597 18 дней назад

@@thenuggster8247 quite often tbh It's beautiful to hit at least 2 people with a winner's advantage heavy finisher lol

@thenuggster8247 18 дней назад

@@ashisakiashikubi6597 How? It’s a blockable heavy

@ashisakiashikubi6597 18 дней назад

@@thenuggster8247 ????????????

@rileywood8252 24 дня назад

Im glad someone else came out and said it. The concept of feeling bad about using a mechanic that other people abuse is one that i feel like is so unspoken. I hate using characters that have abusable moves, yet dont abuse them because i dont wanna be "that guy" just to go against somone else playing the same character and calling me trash because he "used his kit better" all beacuse he abused the move. For example i love playing gladiator, but i once saw someone get toe-stabbed to death and since then ive pretty much put a mental block on that move and have instead tortured myself into mastering light parries and deflects which im still in the process of learning lol. Then i go against another glad and be plays the exact same way i do, except for attempting to toe-stab every other attack. After i lose i get called trash and im told that i just dont know how to "use the kit" Im ranting already but if im being honest, i hate that excuse more than anything in the game. "Im just using my kit better" or "bro thats just my kit" to defend spam. I know there are some people in the community that feel the way i feel and cant speak about it in gc because everyone will just target them lol. For instance, i got stance-light spammed by a highlander and was told to "just parry it" as if highlanders stance lights arent the fastest, weirdly animated moves in the game. To say that and not bat an eye makes me think some people have convinced themselves they are amazing with the character or something.

@tommasoaiello2593 24 дня назад

I agree i do the same thing with light spam, i got to a point where light spam against players is useless, but im on a ps4 😅 so i can’t parry shit and i refuse to do even 2 lights in a row and try to use every move of a character’s kit, should be obvious but i encountered many idiots that spam one move. That’s why i love characters like shaolin where i can use his kit to the fullest without resorting to broken mechanics, i didnt know that you could follow up the bashes with light and heavy😂.

@stoplosinglilboy1461 24 дня назад

Bro im sorry but your literally just not good at gladiator if you choose not to use one of his highest pressure moves. Stop worrying about ppl crying about how your gonna play and just use everything in your kit or don't but guess what... I am everytime cus I don't put wierd mental rules on myself I simply play the game. It's just a read if someone toestabs me 3 times ina row that's my fault for standing there. I should simply dodge, and then the glad should adapt to that and try and gb me to punish that. You can play however you want, but so can the highlander spamming offensive lights you dont need to parry it unless ur playing jj or warmonger. Anybody else literally just needs to dodge attack. If u want we can 1v1 and you can attempt to cheese me with glad or highlander or any other char so I can show you how to counter theese playstyles. Getting hit by the same move over and over is a skill issue

@thenuggster8247 18 дней назад

I don’t get why toe stab is a problem. Defending it is a read that can be made just as easily as any other neutral or chain bash, it only does 10 dmg when it lands, and it is consistently punishable by any dodge attack other than jj

@rileywood8252 18 дней назад

@@thenuggster8247 it's easy if u expect it. But to put it into perspective, I have never missed a single toe stab I have ever thrown. I dodge some of them because I know when MOST glads will feint into one. The problem isn't the fact that it's a good move, it's just the only viable thing that low levels can use glad for. There are some characters like glad that barely have anything viable except for one extremely viable move and then instead of people simply just utilizing it, they make it their crutch. Not to mentions, the characters that have good bashes are the ones you see spamming it. Like yeah If I go against an orochi I know at some point I will get kick spammed, whether it's the orochis first move off rip or they use it when they know they will lose if they don't. The problems with bashes like orochis kick or glads toe-stab is that you don't get much from punishing it, so there is rarely a reaction to dodge it (at least for me). Don't get me wrong. Glad needs a rework, or some animation changes with his skewer and leniency with free gbs off dodging skewer, but his toestab is his most valuable item in his kit. That's why u see pro players not using it at all (because they don't wanna be seen spamming) or low levels abusing it because it's that good. The people that are pro playing with him have perfected defects and light parrys, they do not use toe stab unless they use it to take their opponent off guard

@rileywood8252 18 дней назад

@@stoplosinglilboy1461 I very much agree that getting hit over and over by a light attack in a row is a skill issue. What changes that is even the slightest bit of mix-up knowledge and throwing in a toe-stab becomes ten times more viable. I never said I got "cheesed" by it but I can tell when someone uses it as a crutch verses someone using it how it was intended. We are not gonna sit here and act like every attack in every kit is fair. Especially highlanders offhand lights, they are the fastest lights in the game and not only are they hard to read, but they have a small recovery as well. I don't know the numbers but I'm pretty good at light parrying, and if I can have a bot playing every character light spam me and I parry all of them, verses a highlander bot and me only getting 1 light parry off out of 10 lights. Highlander is a good character anyways and I'm glad that most people don't spam that move, but those that do know what they are doing. They aren't doing it because "it's part of the kit" they do it because it's hard for most people to handle. I respect the advice man and I've already tried many times to read things like that and it simply works out better just to take it and win next time by bring better rather than sitting there trying to look for light parries or dodge indicators the whole fight. The thing is, the games matchmaking is garbage so I'm forced to go against both low and high skill players. High skill players don't do what u described, they deflect and light parry off reaction and create viable options that way. Low levels however abuse their crutches. So I can never get used to either because I do good one game and get paired up against a rep 800 overall. Then I lose that game and go against an orochi that spams kick, yes I might lose to him once after I'm spammed but it doest usually happen again (that same match) but drifting back and forth makes it hard to just be good and focus on practicing light parries and defects

@wizsword. 25 дней назад

been playing Shaolin and never new about that flicker god thats fucking stupid

@baiosuta8162 25 дней назад

My friend who will say sucks at FH plays almost every Hybrid but his main is Shaolin and he does good but also the difference between a Aramusha and a shaolin is like going from Warden to Nuxia

@HoneyDog 24 дня назад

It’s cathartic listening to a video like this. I seriously feel like I never, ever hear people criticize shaolin, because I feel like there is this weird idea that shaolin is somehow “more respectable” than hitokiri or afeera or something. But I really always have found them just be way too overtuned- sure, it might take a bit longer to learn shaolin then hitokiri, but once you do it becomes just as annoying at a high level. I think primarily what annoys me about shaolin is they feel like such a cutscene character sometimes, even if you’re countering their attacks. The CCU stamina changes make fighting high level shaolins feel like I’m playing a turn based strategy game. Special properties on attacks also kill me, I just don’t get them; why can shaolins sweep only consistently be dodged in one direction? Why? Two different extremely quick, easy to “abuse” 50/50’s kill me. Shaolins always have access to their forward bash 50/50, as well as their qi stance kick/light combo. Kick/light is more bearable because they have to go into qi stance to get to it… except they can enter it through their forward bash 50/50. Guessing wrong on the QI Stance and dodging a kick punishes you with a heavy (GB or tracking), but eating the kick leads directly into yet another 50/50 that punishes with another heavy. Plus, if you get sweeped, shaolin can enter his Qi stance through the punish. It’s a 50/50 into a 50/50 into a 50/50 that repeats forever. Other characters have long repeating chains but shaolins just feels like way too much to me, mostly because of how varied they can make the combo. Sure, shaolin can throw three 50/50’s at you without ever having to throw a heavy- they also don’t! They can just, do other things that are also viable. Forward bash is good to open, but so is a backwards light into Qi stance. All these options also make simple lights, heavies and zones more viable as well. I could go on forever about shaolin, but they are just one of the most frustrating characters for me to fight. At the end of the day, doesn’t really matter who people play in a video game, but man, characters like shaolin definitely contribute to games like For Honor just not being that fun sometimes.

@RAPTORREX_ 24 дня назад

i love the ending. its truy at the end of the day were playing a video game but at the same time we are all allowed to voice frustrations

@P41ma1 24 дня назад

To me it's not as bad since i can react to it, but shaolin when it comes to his flickers is probably the most abused ones i come across. I swear i don't see any other character get abused as much as him with least when I'm playing

@liamliae4254 25 дней назад

Me a law main and fighting shao is just the biggest pain.

@alaapanga3640 22 дня назад

@@liamliae4254 try fighting a gladiator with his bash revoeries faster than you dodge revoeries 💀

@jasonbourne2513 5 дней назад

It’s ridiculous how busted he is, if you want full power then make sure to select Nukkekubi as your third feat. You can literally ignore the opponents mixups and spam your offense because you regain stamina every time you hit them so you will never go out of stam for the rest of the game

@maaroc3007 24 дня назад

3 words "to many options"

@Z3R0441 24 дня назад

I like fighting, warden, pk, bp, shaman, nobushi, light spamming orochis, nuxia, and tiandi

@Jago-Shogun 25 дней назад

wish we had a praise video. They captured the flow perfectly of the bo-staff. I guess negativity gets more clicks. I waited years for lin to be this okay. I hope he stays the same.

@financialproblems9308 24 дня назад

Hes legitimately the reason most players don't stay in forhonor Hes that eggregious and unfair to fight

@Jago-Shogun 24 дня назад

@@financialproblems9308 This just in: Local monkey man is 90% of the SOLE reason scrubs quit for honor. Can we contain him?

@notmyemail506 24 дня назад

"Ignore the negatives because there's a few positives"

@Jago-Shogun 24 дня назад

@@financialproblems9308 local report: monke man the sole reason for 90% of scrubs leaving the game!

@reposter6434 24 дня назад

We love For Honor

@RAPTORREX_ 24 дня назад

we love for honor :)

@tommasoaiello2593 24 дня назад

Never had a problem fighting Shaolin i think he has one of the most complete and fun movesets on the game, he’s just a bit overtuned, but the devs have to do it right cause he could become dogshit, honestly not the most problematic character.

@financialproblems9308 24 дня назад

@tommasoaiello2593 how do you fight his bullshit? Like legitimately? All the shaolins I meet spam legsweeps, sun Kick and undodgables. I try to parry and dodge but he always continues on whiff he's completely impossible to shut down

@cherrycola4476 25 дней назад

I HATE him! Why does he get a feint able bash that we cant GB?! His ganks are broken too!

@Alveonadra 7 дней назад

Shaolin can zone after his bash, its the same speed as the light but its a heavy parry. Very balanced ubisoft xD

@iamthisiam 16 дней назад

They need to return his unblockable

@simonemarconi1595 23 дня назад

Revenge needs a buff

@LADDtoast 25 дней назад

Ever since I managed to antigank the entire team in elimination with shaolin I realised how bullshit he is to fight.

@ryanchristen9404 20 дней назад

After I watched this video, I loaded in a dominion match and ran into these EXACT types of shaolins. they need a nerf of some kind

@hunterlynch3996 24 дня назад

No way you said tiandi was doo doo💀 he’s one of, if not the best 1v1er

@RAPTORREX_ 24 дня назад

no hes not lmao hes awful, 9 damage light attacks, tiandi is terrible, warden is the best duelest in the game and its not a question

@CinnamonYar 24 дня назад

Real For Honor players call heroes they don’t main broken

@TAKKODOT 24 дня назад

"Why nobody plays Nuxia" next? Maybe? (Funny Title: "Why JC (and everyone else) forgot about Nuxia)

@RAPTORREX_ 24 дня назад

yes

@TAKKODOT 24 дня назад

@@RAPTORREX_ I Love u (not in a gay way)

@BabyDontHurtMe96 24 дня назад

Shaolin is one of my favs is a killer and have always a lot of fun. 🙊😂

@bruisedavocado65 20 дней назад

Eh idk coming from the FGC community youve always see crazy broken shit lol and back in the day with cabinets you just had to deal with it so ive grown use to dealing with broken stuff 😂😭😭 man imagine mahvel without broken magneto, sentinel teams would be such a different game

@_monkeman__ 24 дня назад

dont diss my boi zanhu ;-;

@labodge7322 24 дня назад

oath breaker is still more annoying

@PuddleWaterIsTheBestWater 24 дня назад

I hate shoalin

@exokirby8490 25 дней назад

Bagelbites

@devilmanrizz9374 24 дня назад

JJ is 100 times more annoying than Shaolin, he may have more in his kit but it's not that effective on most heroes in the game

@financialproblems9308 24 дня назад

Nah shaolin is way worse. Shaolin can literally delete health bars in seconds

@devilmanrizz9374 24 дня назад

@@financialproblems9308 no he doesn't that's never happened to me, he's difficult but JJ is way too good in team fights and usually puts one on ones off as long as he can with his dodges until his teammates get there. He also has an immediate unblockable area attack that usually chains into any part of his kit. His unblockable heavy finisher is one of the hardest to read when he is gonna feint or actually throw it. And his hyper armor forward bash is crazy good

@financialproblems9308 24 дня назад

@devilmanrizz9374 I'd rather fight 4 JJs than 1 shaolin. That's how much I hate this character. JJ is strong and can be unbeatable when working well in a team or by himself and that is so much more tolerable than fighting a toxic flicker tech, leg sweep spamming shaolin

@devilmanrizz9374 24 дня назад

@@financialproblems9308 PC or console?

@financialproblems9308 24 дня назад

@devilmanrizz9374 PC, I know I have a major advantage, but literally fighting shaolin feels impossible. He's overwhelming to fight, be it 4v4s or 1v1s. Shaolin has too many tools and all easily accessible With JJ I mostly just need to parry and predict what he does next so I'm not to worried about him. I have met some that have mastered him and they are strong but I'd still rather fight that

@puresaltgoodness4227 25 дней назад

After shaolin's rework, he became alot better to fight against. This is just a skill issue, his attacks can only flow into so many things, just increase your skill... then come find me again.

@KingSpartanWarrior 25 дней назад

One thing to note too is when you have more than one Shaolin, you can do some pretty disgusting things, like lock them in alternating triple tap light chains, or somehow sweep them an extra time when they're already on the ground. Don't ask how I know this, or the people that I "allegedly" did this to. They probably don't have keyboards to defend themselves anymore.

@RAPTORREX_ 25 дней назад

LMAO no im guilty of this too ive locked someone with lights before and as much as i was laughing i realized "man im a prick huh"

@thenuggster8247 18 дней назад

You can’t infinitely lock people in triple lights. The 5th light will be blockable.

@Shadowz4ever 25 дней назад

I’m actually surprised that you didn’t bring up Qi trap, for a tier one feat it just last forever with no way to break it, and if placed in the enemy spawn you get a orbital vsat the whole match

@RAPTORREX_ 25 дней назад

i wanted to make an "enemy uav" above meme but i tend to stay away from cancer options like running QI trap, basically if i think something is super cheesy i dont use it.

@CVSTiramisu 25 дней назад

I remember playing shaolin before the rework, and seeing them was a rarity. Now it just seems like anyone with a pulse can pick up shaolin and just run the entire lobby.

@JosephLi-z2k 25 дней назад

The thing that pisses me off about shaolin is that he feels so slow when you play him and yet he feels so fast going against him. It’s some kind of time paradox and I’ll never understand how it works. So for me it’s a double whammy because unlike something like Varangian guard or Ocelotl, I don’t get to enjoy using him and he also feels like cancer to go against.

@IlLAD3LPH1A215 25 дней назад

Bro feel exactly the same. When I play him he feels awkward clunky and slow but if I face someone he’s fast asl. I do think it’s a skill issue of learning how to flow with him and get into his chain but the initial start up is what feels like a 🐢 but I’m with you you’re not alone in how you feel. Practice makes perfect I guess 🤷🏽

@thenuggster8247 18 дней назад

That’s just the difference in how fast you’ll perceive another player doing a move. When you’re doing it yourself you’re doing the input then waiting for the animation to be over so you can do the next thing or readjust depending on how they react.

@davidwilkinson4634 17 дней назад

@@thenuggster8247exactly this right here and also just simply skill issues

@weskertambemjoga8261 25 дней назад

Ive seen some people say shaolin is balanced cause he only has one unblocable attack💀💀💀

@unkn0wn5 25 дней назад

He has a ub?

@sleepy-Arc 25 дней назад

@@unkn0wn5the sweep technically

@financialproblems9308 24 дня назад

Yea I heard that argument, then again he said vg was op

@loggothedoggo 24 дня назад

@@sleepy-Arc and his qi and non-qi stance unblockable kicks?

@alaapanga3640 22 дня назад

@@financialproblems9308 yes vg is broken as hell her damage is unholy her recoveries are non existant + her crushing counter is buggy working even on her dodge attack

@PE_Strizzy 25 дней назад

Tbh the flicker is cheesy as hell but I don’t think they should implement bans for it because like you said people can do them on accident and that would result in them being banned and not know y personally I think they should just fix it anyway love the content keep up the good work bro 👍

@RAPTORREX_ 25 дней назад

yea after having a convo i half changed my mind, i commented and pinned my response

@JackSpackProductions 25 дней назад

Yeah, intentional or not, Ubi are responsible for balancing their own game. It's not really on the players imo. If there was a bug involving players getting thousands of free steel for free, you can bet Ubi would patch that shit overnight.

@adrianhuerta4277 24 дня назад

If you make reads instead of being a reaction only cheeser it aint so bad!

@HoneyDog 24 дня назад

@@adrianhuerta4277Reactions are reads, though. If you were to only make reactionary attempts to parry every attack instantly then you would eat every single heavy your opponent throws.

@adrianhuerta4277 24 дня назад

@@HoneyDog yea. So flicker shouldnt bother you if you play like that. Thats how its supposed to be. But there are players who can tell the difference. Some look for flash while other do animation. Both of these players, without flicker, can parry your light 100% of the time its thrown. Thats why i dont like it when people complain about shaolin flicker because it only hurts people who just sit and stare for reaction parries instead of reads.

@eyelessjack817 24 дня назад

Thank the Lord I’m not the only one.

@STARPHASE 8 дней назад

One day I flipped a blinking shaolin with Black Prior, and it was amazing.

@Maximidos 24 дня назад

I’m glad you pointed out the fact that everyone hates most of the roster lmao

@jatbird855 25 дней назад

the thing i hate the most about shaolin is that he's so over tuned that the coolest part of his kit is pointless there's no reason to ever try to crushing counter someone in ci stance and to a greater point there's no reason to even stay in ci stance more than half a second which begs the question why even have it anymore

@Vexrehk 25 дней назад

Shaolin is such a pain to fight but genuinely the most fluid and fun character to play, you should do another vid on him

@GIJose-mw9zy 24 дня назад

A video should be done on who to use and how to counter each op character. 👍🏽

@gamerhex7335 13 дней назад

Something to add to the flicker point, is not only do people think its "skillful" to use it, or think its ok. They almost always get mad when someone points that out. Its borderline cheating and anyone who's purposely doing it regularly to win fights has no business playing the game.

@Definitely_not_a_bot69420 24 дня назад

Monkee got so much that it feels like you’re playing a wall 80% of the time when fighting him then those 50/50 into 33/33/33 is still one of the most boring things to exist in the game outside confirmed 50/50 in a 2v1 that give you no revenge Example: you dodge a bash but get hit by undodge or you parry the undodge and get hit by the bash into heavy in the end youll die before revenge is even half way

@rage_tv4493 25 дней назад

shaolin just has so many options to choose from. after maining PK then Lawbringer and then trying shaolin i was like wow this is really easy. characters with way more options are just easier to win with and it’s kinda BS. now honestly shaolin isn’t busted broken but characters like lawbringer being in the same game as characters like shaolin is just so dumb. they aren’t even on the same playing field dude.

@roamdhong 24 дня назад

With most heroes it's easy to see if they're OP, balanced, or weak, but when I came back to FH I could not tell if the Shaolin rework was balanced or not. I hate fighting shaolin and I swear to god he needs nerfs, I'm glad I am not the only that despises this hero, almost as much as Orochi and the outlanders

@Tazer_BLACC 24 дня назад

I once fought a WuKong Skin 4 Stack in Dom and it was TERRIBLE. 💀😂

@RangerAce1290 23 дня назад

I want to play Shaolin because I’m a fan of Sun Wukong, but it feels like he takes no effort to play well.

@random-bb2pr 25 дней назад

Im a rep 1 shaolin and i can do i lot better then i probably should with all the mixups he has.

@hjking7225 25 дней назад

Oh so that's why the animation looks weird at times. I didn't even know I was doing flickers. Honestly, it explains a on how I'm like, " Why didn't you parry or block that buddy?" I've mained shaolin since he came out. Honestly, for me, I never really found shaolin hard to fight. I feel like once you use the character a bit & have an general idea of how his stuff works. Fighting against him is a decently easier. However that is how it is for me. I can't say for everyone else but it can definitely help though.

@maskkout 12 дней назад

zhanhu is awesome, the drip is amazing, the animations look good

@nicholascampos651 24 дня назад

After this video all i get it is 2 or 3 shaolins on the enemy team in every dom match. I hate this game 😭

@Altabahait 24 дня назад

Who would win Rep 79 Lawbringer Vs Rep 19 Shaolin "I hate those damn monkeys" i say looking at the 12th shaolin with a monkey mask.

@alaapanga3640 22 дня назад

@@Altabahait as a lawbringer main i say galiator is way more frustrating his toe stab hits my dodge bash even on predict 💀

@joakimjensen309 24 дня назад

20 reps on Shaolin never used a flicker even once, nor have i used them on other heros

@RAPTORREX_ 24 дня назад

youre a good man

@logank7627 25 дней назад

I despise Shaolin and Ocelotl. For some reason, those 2 heroes get under my skin like no other.

@financialproblems9308 24 дня назад

I mean they are everything bullshit go characters. They can literally do anything and everything all at once without giving you a chance to fight back. They are also unpunishable

@MaximillionPegasusJ.Crawford 25 дней назад

You can't even punish whiffed bashes. He can just do a followup like. His zone is so fast, still it's only a heavy parry. His lights are so fast, too, they feel much faster than, say, berserkers or Nobushis. I don't know, I'm just horrible at fighting Shaolin and meeting one is always very frustrating for me. I've started to hate his voices too. His disgusting cackles. Everything about him. And why does his hero skin look so good? He didn't deserve one.

@thenuggster8247 18 дней назад

Dodge attacks will consistently punish shaolin’s bashes unless you’re playing as jj. And also his neutral, qi stance, and finisher lights as well as his zone are 500 ms which is the same speed as every single neutral light in the game. He does have 400 ms lights but they are only accessible after a heavy

@MaximillionPegasusJ.Crawford 18 дней назад

@@thenuggster8247 Thanks man. I appreciate your support.

@thenuggster8247 17 дней назад

@@MaximillionPegasusJ.Crawford Of course. I saw the video claiming misinformation and I was hoping I could help a few people out by disproving it.

@EnderPlanet 11 дней назад

@@thenuggster8247”Dodge attacks will consistently punish” - cries in Warden/Lawbringer main

@Ray_diant 25 дней назад

If someone does a flicker over and over and does it actively, they should be banned. At least for a couple hours; and then extend it if they continue. Whenever I'm playing terribly I just switch to Shaolin and all anger dissipates within an hour.

@unkn0wn5 25 дней назад

For honor barely bans scripters/lag switchers they can't do anything about flickering

@Ray_diant 24 дня назад

@@unkn0wn5 Obviously yeah

@ivanfelipe240 25 дней назад

How original lets him everything bruh

@fjoolatmorason8653 24 дня назад

You're one of the voices the game needs bruther, you deserve the milestone! That and honestly y e a h, it's been bizzareeee how shaplin is literal S tier but no one says a word (my theory is just cause he is in a satisfying way, that and the ego shaolin players do NOT want a nerf and just hide the overpoweredness behind skills {pls I cant be the only one whos fought a cocky shaolin main}), by the by I smell me a zerk video coming and I'd LOVE to give clips if nescessary lmao, love the content and gotta support!

@Dark_memes2 25 дней назад

I don’t think they should just outright ban everyone who does it since it’s so easy anyone can do it after a bit of practice, and most do it accidentally, they should definitely ban people doing it maliciously though

@MattWestmile-xh7by 24 дня назад

Only A. Holes play this cheesy villain.

@CinnamonYar 24 дня назад

The only time I beat a Shaolin is on a good day

@Matthewfirexboxone 24 дня назад

I’m so used to people using the flicker it’s just a part of his kit in my mind when i fight them

@sumafa6857 24 дня назад

Day 3 of asking for your warden fashion

@brokenbiscuit3609 24 дня назад

Speaking of early Wu Lin bullshitery, i remember when Zanny went up against a JJ in the early days of Marching Fire and he complained about him being a heavy with a dodge attack. Fast forward a few years later and now everyone has a dodge attack.

@thenuggster8247 18 дней назад

That is definitely a throwback, but he was wrong. Conq’s had his side dodge bash since the game’s release

@carlosescamilla5260 2 дня назад

I love how someone finally talks about the miss bash punish i F hate it along with the Dodge Cancel, worst part is that is NOT a coincidence that Heroes that doesn't have dodge cancel attacks are not good and no, BP does not count cuz he has the Ad Profundis.

@cartercravillion 24 дня назад

Some of his executions make your character a bumbling idiot trying and failing to hit him

@ramitospremium2292 17 дней назад

Hey, love this video!!!, as a Shaolin main, I find this very informative. My go-to for honor channels are Raven Knight and Solidsol. I'm going subscribe to you because have a different, happier vibe. Hope to see more content from you !!!!^-^

@angelguardianpeace-lf6fl 24 дня назад

Zhanhu is crazy underrated like genuinely he may be reactable but zhanhu like someone who knows him can knowledge check someone back to the stone age. It's not even that he's broken he just has solid tools. Unractable 50/50 unblockable that looks SEVERELY like his light finishers that are also unblockable. A 360 degree zone attack that hits pretty far out a dumby fast forward Dodge bash. And dodge cancels oh did I mention his forward Dodge heavy on a wrong read TRACKS THE OPPONENT

@simonemarconi1595 23 дня назад

i hate Shaolin because of teleporting, harm parry, magic executions... why the magic in for Honor? WHY?

@benniebees 24 дня назад

about chaining after a bash -> dodge attacks are confirmed punishes for them. You don't have to empty dodge and then parry, you can just dodge attack. This makes their offense stronger obviously, because it makes their opponents more predictable.

@rinnesageachu4 24 дня назад

“To say that I beat these people with skill-” *immediately cut off by clip audio* “I’M THE BEST!!!”

@mal83k65 18 дней назад

For honor community just sucks and they toxic. You can beat them with any hero if your better than them and now all of a sudden that hero is op. I been playing game since like a week Shinobi and cent came out. Mained Shinobi until shao came out and he’s been my main until about a month or 2 ago when I switched to glad because people swear u have no skill using shao for some reason. But will use people like raider and zerk or hito like a straight bot

@pxrposewithnopurpose5801 24 дня назад

Bro talking sbout every character. And he is right. Every fking character sometimes become annoying

@JoystickJay15 24 дня назад

As a rep 80 shaolin. I just recently noticed enemy shaolin doing the flicker myself. I always thought it was just the game being buggy not the actual player doing it.

@knightium 24 дня назад

thank you for your piece on flickers. any "techs" such as zerk tech or shao flicker are not techs like a zerk backwards zone is, they are exploits. you should be able to get in trouble for using exploits.

@trenzalors4238 24 дня назад

you can punish all of his bashes without making a secondary read by using your dodge attack, if you do a second read it's something you choose to do. i don't think every bash should give a gb when dodged but i do agree however that the sweep should give a gb when dodged because it is a very strong mix-up you don't get a gb most of the time when you dodge ocelotl's front dodge bash because the recovery is too low

@orpheonkatakrosmortarchoft4332 24 дня назад

In retrospect, the Wulin weren't even that good on release appart from JJ. Just another skill issue of the fh community.

@ashleejones586 24 дня назад

Shaolin has been my main since I got him. Which, granted, isn’t long…but he’s my main for a reason, lol.

@Mildly_Tactical 23 дня назад

Shaolin warrior monks are trained to scream in their performances, so that's just accurate (even if it is annoying)

@Misterdino6984 25 дней назад

For me much champ are very funny tocplay with and against except one, the shugoki, really that thing hit me in my mental like a car

@ovenbakedpizza5922 24 дня назад

Yea the exploit stuff is a bad thing on tiktok, calling it "techs" and getting pissed when people call them out.

@snowdrifter6187 25 дней назад

So if we have characters with crazy offense and T3 to react. When is pirate gonna get her soft cancel back

@tasismithjennings27 24 дня назад

I find him pretty fun tbh in my opinion he’s a good hero to get your skill up and just pretty fun to fight and play as 🤷

@gustavomatos7338 25 дней назад

People liked fighting the old centurion, when he could do nothing against anyone, all you had to do was block

@kody5014 24 дня назад

watching this video after saying if you have a level on shaiolin or even played him in the training arena yoy shouldnt exist

@shannynkupisz2014 24 дня назад

i love how pre buff this guy was assssss, then rework😉 can and he feels lame af

@davidwilkinson4634 17 дней назад

I think the main reason i like fighting shar is because he's simply cool

@captain_phoenix0 25 дней назад

Something I've always said, Shaolin didn't really need a rework, he just needed tweaks. His unblockable being removed for a sweep just made him more boring, especially just making his sweep the being his main tool. They should have just gave him tweaks, added the sweep finisher, and instead of making the sweep the chain move, they should have just kept it to only heavy and light chains. If they made all of his moves specific tools you had to get to one at a time it would be funner. If you can just do a top undodgeable heavy and go straight into a sweep, thats not fun. If you have to chain back into qi stance to do another move that would be better. The old kick was much more balanced where you could choose to do the unblockable, light, or sweep, if they just added the finisher that he has now to that and kept everything else the same that would have been fine.

@kapochino8566 7 дней назад

shaolin sweep being basically undodgable as well is also really fun

@Rudegrape 24 дня назад

He’s not that bad imo yes his stun locks are annoying but man with stick is cool

@TheGoatToat 21 день назад

Wa bi bo bo

@roykiefer-tr1dr 25 дней назад

The best thing about Shaolin is his FREAKING HERO SKIN. That kinda what drove me to play the character more before the Wu Lin season was coming up and heard rumors of a Wu Kong coming to For Honor. Still don't play him as much now but never regretted buying that skin. 🐵

@financialproblems9308 16 дней назад

personally hate that skin, probably because shaolin mains ruin it for me