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I very strongly disagree that it is worth 700 for most people. I think the set is cool despite its many problems but I would not pay more than 450 for it.
This is a perfect opportunity for a third party company to make metal counterweights for the crane, as well as a light kit and even a boom extension kit that includes lengthened strings.
A boom extension and additional/upgraded counterweight set is all this needs. Then I would think about purchasing it, but it should already have these for this price right?
wonder if they could have considered putting the battery boxes/hubs at the back and enclosing them with disguise pieces to look like a counterweight block - also save money on those blocks. Boom extension may still stress the motor even with more counterweight stopping it tipping. Would be curious to see some Mocs - should be straightforwards to experiment with although maybe expensive if you brick link those trusses...
@@MrKlawUK I wonder how many Bricklinkers will be willing to buy this set to part it out. If they do...they're going to be pretty pricey in my opinion. Believe me, I'm with you on hoping it happens...I'm just no holding my breath.
@@MrKlawUK As of 2 August at least one Bricklink store in Texas has the yellow boom sections for U.S. $45 for the group of four pieces to make one truss section. Yeah - the Bricklink "scalpers" are going to be asking premium prices for these pieces.
It has some clever design solutions, no doubt about it, but there is some discussion about whether this really looks like a Liebherr. The wider tracks would have fitted the scale better, and the boom/jib combination chosen for this set apparently doesn't actually exist in real life. Might have been better to just release this as "fantasy" crane, drop the licence fees, and have a more reasonable value for money ratio. Regarding the issues with this set, someone suggested, looking at the set number, this was intended for 2022 release, but got delayed due to issues. And in the end, got released 95% finished basically. That could explain some of its problems, and maybe they had to increase the price because of the extra time that went into its development, due to the problems.
It isnt worth it. Half of the pieces are only pins and other little things worth about 30$. It doesnt look like any Liebheer crane. The battery boxes are just open with no covers. No gearbox, just for every function one motor which is dumb. The only reason why this could be a liebheer is because of the many stickers, nothing else. The counterweights are very light wich limits the weight the crane can carry. Sll of these yellow boxes arent only consist of 4psc per box, so you dont even do something else than using pins. And lastly it doesnt even have a remote control. You have to use a phone app. For 700$ this is ridiculously expensive.
Buying this would fulfill a fantasy of having operational scale model cranes. I'm not even sure i'd play with it much, and since you pointed out some of the annoyances I think I would find myself dissatisfied if I were to buy it. Reminds me of going to a furniture store, buying something that looks great and seems operational, but when you get it in your house you find out how poorly engineered it is.
I disagree with whose who say this doesn’t look good but although I’m really impressed by the technical solutions I can’t find aaaaaany reason for this to cost 700€. It’s crazy. Someone (Sariel) said that at least without the Liebherr licence (which it’s useless as it doesn’t represent any of the possible configurations of the real crane) it could have been cost a little less, but it would have still been overpriced. It’s really a miss for me, and I own almost every Technic set ever made 😢
It won't ever worth 700 bucks!!! That's not a Liebherr lr 13000, the real one would be way bigger in that scale with more weight at the rear. Lego will raise the price till the customers buy it. That's just marketing!
Correct, the real crane has a far larger Jib / boom and 2 sets of counterweights. While I appreciate the work done in the base / Drive section it doesn’t really look like a 13000.
How much Kool-Aid have you been drinking????? We are talking about a few pounds of plastic that cost mere dollars to produce. Even $500 would be WAY too much!!!!! You can get a Mould King 17015 that is twice as tall and has more part for under $250. Why would anybody in their right mind drive the MOST expense set through water????
Too expensive, crawler base needs to be wider, carrier rollers need to be closer to drive sprockets to aid stability, those white balls need to go, needs Derrick ballast, needs atleast another section in its main boom, hook needs about 20 more pulleys, track pads need to be smooth, it’s just so far from the real crane when the 9800 and D11 were very close,
For your info, anything that is denser than 1000kg/m^3 will sink in water provided it's displacement is not high enough. These counterweight pieces are just made of solid ABS with a density of about 1200 kg/m^3. I made a CAD model of the part and the 41g wright checks out.
This thing is utter trash it has mismatcht colours the engine and battery boxes are just exposed the tracks are way to thin the proportion are wrong the red and grey on the arms is just wrong it is not worth the money it can’t even lift a lot buy the mould king crane it’s is just trash nothing is good about this model Lego fanboy these are 16 cents a pice and 1400 pieces are pins this set stands for the failures of this shitty company No crane line this exists irl And do you remember the time when there were metal blocks in these sets for less then 1 cent the building is boring it is shit
To me, the value of a big set depends on the number of alts that will be available over time. And I think there will not even be half alts for this compared to the R9800. Too little variation in the parts, cranes are the only builds. So no, not valuable at all.
Mechanically, yes it's a good set in that department, though they should have just dropped the license because at the end of the day it does not really look like what it's trying to portray...
I will buy it eventually. The price in Canadian $’s is a little steep. But looks like it is worth the extra. 6 motors a 2 hubs is great 😊 Where are you from?
Lego now has the yellow frame pieces that make up the booms available to purchase. I bought 8 of each of the 2 frame pieces to make 4 units. I extended the main boom with 3 of them and the jib with the 4th one. I used parts from my other sets to extend the braces. The 7905 Building Crane has 12 of the Axle 16 w/ eyes I needed. I had to use longer string for the jib and the hook.
the pricepoint and authenticity is a total dealbreaker for me, lego technic flagships are supposed to be challenging but fun, like for example lego 42100 or 42114, which were both jam packed with functions, i fail to see any difference with this and 42042 which is actually more advanced due to it's gearbox, then you have 42100 (also under Liehberr branding mind you) which had twice the amount of pieces and a more diverse and bigger motor selection (at 7 motors as opposed to 6) for only a little over half the price as 42146, I can't conceivably say this a good deal by any metrics but thanks for your input on this set
Way too expensive and big for me. I think LEGO should focus more on Technic sets that aren't cars. Oh and making this crane look like the real thing would've probably increased the price but $700 already feels too expensive to a lot of people.
Could you take a Dremel and hollow out some of the counterweights and put in chunks of lead or lead fishing sinkers to increase the weight of them? I might try that when I finish the build and play with it a bit. Perhaps some water soluble white glue could mitigate the problem with the counterweights falling off and coming apart, and can be removed, should one have a change of heart.
String has and ALWAYS will be my nemesis with my sausage fingers, so the tutorial video was pretty darn helpful! While I do say the Lego Technic version looks NOTHING like the real thing, it is surprisingly fun to play with!
This thing is utter trash it has mismatcht colours the engine and battery boxes are just exposed the tracks are way to thin the proportion are wrong the red and grey on the arms is just wrong it is not worth the money it can’t even lift a lot buy the mould king crane it’s is just trash nothing is good about this model Lego fanboy these are 16 cents a pice and 1400 pieces are pins this set stands for the failures of this shitty company No crane line this exists irl And do you remember the time when there were metal blocks in these sets for less then 1 cent the building is boring it is shit
$700.00 is a non-starter for most Lego fans. If you have $700 to go on a Lego shopping spree you can get several sets and have some money left over for lunch.
Instead of those white balls on the back you should put some heavy duty swivel wheels on so that you can have more counter weights and they shouldn’t drag outside and they would allow you to access/change them if needed .
You can't add a weight in the app since it would be infinitely impossible unless you had a load line sensor because booming down would make it look like more weight
if this one is worth 700$ why can Mouldking sell one for only 200$ which is twice as big and looks much more like the original LR 13k? you have listed several problems like poor load capacity which would be good reasons for not buying it and the only reason why u would buy that one is because its Lego?
If i ever get this set either brand new or second hand id add on a derrick ballast as it seems that it always tips over I just still really want this set its brilliant Just got a cool idea for weight at the back so instead of the counter weights build a box and fill it with coins or something heavy and it will weigh more at the back i mean like 1-2 KG at the back
You cannot gauge price per piece with this set...the pieces are freaking huge so the amount and complexity of the plastic you get is way higher than most other sets.
That tiny little red n white crane is about 2 foot tall, ive had it twenty years and its a classic. Watching it get carried around like that is horrifying, like some monster is carting it off to its doom.
@Unbrickme Where can you get boom parts to extend the length of the boom? I would really like to add some height, but BrickLink does not appear to have any, unless I am missing them on the site.
I really wonder what kind of giant LEGO Technic heavy machinery LEGO might release after 2 years, I hope to see a John Deere combine harvester. How about you @Unbrickme, what kind of LEGO Technic heavy machinery would like to see next after the 42146?
That thing is huge but imagine if they made the one that's currently in the UK, it would be a monster as it runs on rails not tracks as its so big! BTW the crane is a Sarens SGC-250 crane
The price-justification of RU-vidrs like you from the Lego ambassador network, who get the set for free, is awkward. This set is way way too expensive, period.
I dont think the counter weights have metal in them, because you'd have no issue lifting thing if they had metal in them. I think they're just all plastic with no space on the inside
You’d think things couldn’t get worse with Lego? This awful Lego set is a new low 🤮 Compared to the Mould King 17015, it’s much larger and costs less than half of the price of the Lego set.
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Ballast plastic pieces seems to be really cheap and can't justify the extreme speculative price! Very bad Lego!
This crane looks really impressive. Whoever designed this legendary Lego machine is pure genius! Best S.T.E.M. model that teaches you so many things about structures, materials, forces, stability, flexibility, levers, pulleys, mechanisms, physical pendulums, and basic mechanics, and all of which you can play with, change, and see how it behaves in real life. Amazing!! Outstanding job on the video footage and editing!
yeah no, the pulley system is impressive but its not faithful to any version of the Liebherr 13000. the boom is different/out of scale to any variation. and the counterweight is wrong. on top of the fact that it just isnt detailed enough to be worth 700 dollars. the titanic model is a little over 700 dollars, its very detailed, but has no functions. the CAT D11 set costs less, is more faithful, and is more detailed.
I wonder if you could try removing the support balls since they end up dragging along the ground. The counterweights don’t seem to make the crane tilt backward, so I don’t think removing them will affect stability. I guess LEGO put them there to account for those who might not be as gentle on the set.
This thing is utter trash it has mismatcht colours the engine and battery boxes are just exposed the tracks are way to thin the proportion are wrong the red and grey on the arms is just wrong it is not worth the money it can’t even lift a lot buy the mould king crane it’s is just trash nothing is good about this model Lego fanboy these are 16 cents a pice and 1400 pieces are pins this set stands for the failures of this shitty company No crane line this exists irl And do you remember the time when there were metal blocks in these sets for less then 1 cent the building is boring it is shit
@Unbrickme Great review! Looking forward to see your MOC video on this! Hopefully you can address the track issue and those ball things dragging on the ground. I also think they chose to go with fewer, larger frame parts for strength. Using lots of smaller parts would cause the superstructure to flex more
hehe so smol. i just spent two days building the mould king lr13000. it costs $230 usd. has 4300 pieces, and a ton of 5x7 frames. a couple hundred track links. and a ton of beams. not to mention its over 2m tall.
The thing I like most about this set is that it shows that TLG is again pushing the envelope. Which is always good to see. I am also interested in the new elements, I just might pick up one of them for that reason for MOCing purposes. However, I will be very patient with this purchase. The price is bound to drop a lot. As a set though, I have the same opinion as before, it does not look like an exciting build to me. Look, it is big, and tower cranes are fascinating. But I don't have to build this set to know that. The build itself does not look intricate or particularly pleasing. Very good review though.
Yeah basically nonstop stacking of frames gets annoying and almost feels like a subtheme of technic or different theme entirely. 8043 is still the undefeated KING!
@@Unbrickme Although the Mould King crane used lots of 1 by plates and beams to make the booms, after doing several sections, it got to where I knew what parts I needed and how to assemble them. The only problem was it was like spelling banana (you start with BA and then go NA-NA-NA). You just need to know when to stop. LOL
This thing is utter trash it has mismatcht colours the engine and battery boxes are just exposed the tracks are way to thin the proportion are wrong the red and grey on the arms is just wrong it is not worth the money it can’t even lift a lot buy the mould king crane it’s is just trash nothing is good about this model Lego fanboy these are 16 cents a pice and 1400 pieces are pins this set stands for the failures of this shitty company No crane line this exists irl And do you remember the time when there were metal blocks in these sets for less then 1 cent the building is boring it is shit
@@Unbrickme This thing is utter trash it has mismatcht colours the engine and battery boxes are just exposed the tracks are way to thin the proportion are wrong the red and grey on the arms is just wrong it is not worth the money it can’t even lift a lot buy the mould king crane it’s is just trash nothing is good about this model Lego fanboy these are 16 cents a pice and 1400 pieces are pins this set stands for the failures of this shitty company No crane line this exists irl And do you remember the time when there were metal blocks in these sets for less then 1 cent the building is boring it is shit
Throw out two of the motors, and insert a gearbox which one motor drives the function and one motor switches the function, you could lose one of the hubs as well. And use the correct track pieces from the D11 CAT set. And have an extension set for the boom ready at launch. And lower the price to 450 euro. Then it will be a good set and I might pick it up when it hits 250 euro.
I've always thought if the main jib was 1 segment taller and the counterweight was plates that sandwich ball bearings to of added even more weight, it would of least been close enough
This thing is utter trash it has mismatcht colours the engine and battery boxes are just exposed the tracks are way to thin the proportion are wrong the red and grey on the arms is just wrong it is not worth the money it can’t even lift a lot buy the mould king crane it’s is just trash nothing is good about this model Lego fanboy these are 16 cents a pice and 1400 pieces are pins this set stands for the failures of this shitty company No crane line this exists irl And do you remember the time when there were metal blocks in these sets for less then 1 cent the building is boring it is shit
Personally, I much prefer the Audi Q Etron over this set. Overpriced with a bad support system. I live just outside a waterfall complex and I ABSOLUTELY COULD NOT play with it in off road
How long will it work though? My bucket wheel excavator and roller coaster stopped working. Don’t exactly feel like taking them all apart and putting them back together again.
7,36 true. also bad is the fact that the whole crane tilts like crazy. there should be more counterweits on a platform behind the crane. So that only the hub lifts up within limits of the tilt mechanism. The whole crane moving being part of the design is odd.
Considering I could buy an rc one for cheaper and make modifications to it later for little to nothing, 700 is a bit much for a lot of people especially when it comes down to determining its functional value over other important expenses.
Engineering wise it’s very well done. However the short boom length and lack of correct ballast (as per the real Liebherr crane) are disappointing. The cost here AUD $1,049.00. There is one (1) on shelf at the local Lego store, where I was yesterday to put my name down for the upcoming Concorde 👍 which is at $299 AU value for money. Cheers.
