Why The Managerial Elite Are Doomed 

"That wasn't real Tower of Babelism."

There will be a time to strike against it, but that time is not yet here.

You are so nihilistic.

​@@filioque4509lol. Prove your statement to be fact.

​@@HawkGTboyincorrect. The COMMANDS Of GOD, Say Different. Preach the Gospel in and out of season, and to Who‽ Them, right now. Our weapons are not carnal (that's coming from an S.O.F. SAPPER), but Powerful for Pulling Down Strongholds. For HE Must Reign Until All Ememies are Put under HIS Feet as HIS Footstool.

Better yet, the parliament building had a quote on its facade that the nations should be brought into an ever closer union by means of deception -- because somebody thought it was written by its founder. It's easy to laugh at them, but the citizens let them get away with it.

@@waynzignordics A superb opportunity for graffiti ? I guess somewhere the architects of control shall always strive for the first and last laugh, being trained from birth.

It is just Revelation of the Method.

@Joseph Autumn the first strand type youtube comment

Whoa 😳 you tell no lies.

@Joseph Autumn And then The Elder dies

He'll be driving across a windswept prairie going nowhere until his van finally runs out of fuel rods. After sitting for a few hours he powers down the rad-shields, the geiger counter becomes an endless wave of static and he rolls down the windows.

Very Douglas Adams

Gotta love that Appleby.

I believe they referred to the same process as 'creative inertia' in another episode...

@@bulbouspeach6270 & that pompous bastard Sir Arnold.

@@bulbouspeach6270 am I the only one who thinks Fauci is reminiscent of Appleby?

Drug War,War on Poverty

Socialism/maxism/progressivism, take your pick, wants institutions to turn to "predation and parasitism" because that is their excuse to push the "Revolution^TM". Turns out the workers won't rise up on there own because once the conditions are good enough the works perfer to work inside the system. So the collectivist needs an excuse to force violent revolution on those stupid workers who don't know what is good for them. After all you are better educated than those workers; why shouldn't you keep it my precious? You and your friends are the most moral people to have lived and everyone else will see that it was worth it, when your revolution brings utopia. Sacrifices must be made but you promise to give up your emergency feudal lord powers once the revolution is achieved. Stalin was the most progressive leader to have ever lived.

@@iandick1364 I agree with you that those ideologies are devices for instantiating institutionalized parasitism and predation

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The simple solution to this is implementing Starship Troopers’ method; making people earn their ability to vote by doing federal service.

@@theatheistbear3117 That sounds great until psychopaths, sociopaths, predators and parasites gain control over the federal government.. which it appears there already are a great number of those in the "deep state". In fact, most predation and parasitism is in the name of "national security"..

Kinda like building a tower that reaches to heaven eh?

SATAN lives in the dark yet he is made out of light, taking the shape of beasts and men. Be attentive. For understanding please review Joseph Wright of Derby's paintings at a low light level. Thank you

It’s a LARP

@@Btn1136 Time will tell.

Pitch the big ask first, then negotiate down.

@@Paul-A01 Problem is, the left has been calling the right's bluff for the last 100 years at least, so the threat has no teeth.

States need to double down on *local commerce.* It's small, but local craft beer, local farmers markets and local "farm to table" restaurants are leading the way. 52% of USA daycare slots are managed by local churches. I'm sure there are other examples. For now, multinationals and national distribution outfits bleed locals dry while scarfing up massive government subsidies. Americans need to put some more chess pieces on the board and stop dreaming that "war movie" delusions might "save them." I worked for Army and State Dept. Wars are nothing at all like "war movies."

If only knowledge and experience was as centralized as power

I mean we haven’t learned that the exploitation of others while lucrative is always under threat from revolt because people will endeavor against what ails them, whatever force that might be. Which is why even in an environment that provided equity humans would still be trying to find ways to make it better so it’s worthwhile to strive towards that goal more than just accepting some assigned group of people is meant to suffer because of some imagined defect.

You are already well on your way my friend!

@@MaximilianCunnings Damn, I remember when I commented this. Back then, I couldn't comprehend complex theoretical terms. I would understand their reference, but the thought itself was inapplicable to the world for me. Thank you for your comment for it is a great reference to my early coming upon this channel and this sort of content in general.

Hobbesian pseudo-anthropology is also a very bad base for your politics in 2021.

@@florianfelix8295 I agree. But since the liberal state justifies itself materially, this is a weak spot once the system stops working. Live by the Hobbes, die by the Hobbes so to speak

Exactly. It is the "Social Contract" described by Rousseau, and lately it's been coming unglued.

Still, this part of Hobbes, taken in isolation, doesn't seem like it's been disconfirmed. I agree that strain of thought is built on the sand castle of false anthropology, but that doesn't necessarily mean it didn't assimilate and even generate some true ideas.

Yup. Management are the guys who are last in finding out what's going on.

Management could be such an interesting and critical topic which actually is stimulating but it’s so detached from the real world or any interesting concepts. I’m studying psychology and sociology alongside it and thought it would provide an “applied psychology or social science” component but I’m thoroughly disappointed and bored.

I got burned out on NRx ideology along time ago because it's so predictable. But I agree that Distributist and this guy do indeed offer a more uplifting and reasonable message then the general hostility, fear and close minded opinions that caricatures the broader "dissident right".

@@ichabodcrane6044 I personally never got into NRx. I just didn't think it had anything really unique and profound to offer. And I was never really impressed by Moldbug as a thinker.

@@Tehz1359 Who do you like?

@@Tehz1359 Moldbug is not the origins of NRx, but rather just an influential person in the idea space. Evola and Spangler are more important Reactionaries imho. There are some good ideas if you haven't explored it, but after awhile it's takes become boaring after you have fully internalized the philosophy. least for me that is.

@@ichabodcrane6044 What NRXers are you listening to? I find NRX to be an unending expansion of new ideas, writers, thinkers, etc. I feel like there's always a new book to pick up!

Implemented by that humanitarian Bill Gates no less. The same guy trying to inject the world for our own "benefit", just a coincidence nothing to worry about I'm sure.

Your correct! With the exception of arcane from league of legends!

Create something.

They don't think they just run things

None are good except God himself.

This state of existence renders everything a larp, in fairness.

Fascism in practice wasn't so much about centralization but re-centralizing the culture to act in it's most organic fashion. Fascism was more about 'negative' law; that is to say that Fascism was more of a detriment to 'wise guys' than the top-heavy, stiffing cultural rebuilding which liberals c*nts like to portray. Here is a little test--go ask your average debauched quasi-lefty (not full blown, they are too stupid to understand anything) or avaricious 'capitalist' about the Wiemar republic, if you get a glowing answer regarding 'freedom' and so forth, perhaps you have a clue to then more deeply investigate the day-to-day of at least Fascist Italy.

- American psycho pfp - fantasizes about fascism - extols spartanism and ruthless domination as admirable virtues. - Fucking yikes, dude.

I highly recommend the book *Starship Troopers* if you’re looking for a practical look of libertarian ideas and their practical use in real life (such as being able to vote being something you earn by doing federal service).

@@theatheistbear3117 that’s not really libertarian. A good look at libertarianism is the city of rapture in Bioshock.

can you please tell us more?

@@pharaohphoenix8348 these organizations are ran incredibly inefficiently and are coasting on 10 years low interest rates. Cheap money enabled bad decision making by people who would never be there during more same times. Things are actually starting to correct but it’s not like the free market will take care of this.

Tyranny doesn’t last forever.

@@theatheistbear3117 True especially as it eventually runs out of resources or "memtic fortitude". But it may last longer than one would like. And the damage left behind might be inurmountably large (A continentwide Cambodia, or a Third Reich sitting table in Europe for a few generations before collapsing would be really bad. SovUnion was barely functional when it gave up. China has yet to deal with Best Korea btw.)

Definitely a big aspect of it yes.

How would this solve the creativity problem? Ai doesn’t solve creative problems such as inventing solutions. It might be useful in sustaining a pre-existing system, but not in developing new ideas that push society up and out. If society isn’t advancing, then it’s stagnant, or worse, dying.

@@LiteralMcWho There is no such thing as artificial intelligence

@@sdrc92126 I'm glad you said it. It's a meaningless buzz word used to make the populous think these technocrats have some sort of God like power to create intelligent thinking creations. It;s just machine learning given an updated name.

@@kryptofreedommedia1899 machine learning = multi dimensional curve fitting and correlation matrices. You can do it on a spreadsheet

Great point! I think this is why we have to make plays in the next 20-40 years or so. They are working hard at this problem, but it is a technically demanding skill- all while their technical competence is declining due to diversity hiring. That, and having recently worked at a major corporation: they blew tons of money because many of their practices were based on historical averages, yet the economy as it is now produced some very a-historical results that caused massive waste. They turn like cruise ships when obstacles are in their way. Then their own bureaucracy gets in the way of them pivoting. Definitely an advantage to consider.

This AI would have the same problems like the managerial class - ever changing political correctness. This would render it completely inefficient and useless.

@@jirisalamoun2297 It's very optimistic that you think that this isn't a solvable problem. Humans aren't actually as imaginative as we like to think we are most of the time. It's why we appreciate and reward novelty so much, and why probably 99% of entertainments are as derivative as they are. Look at leftist ideology for instance. For all the slightly different forms of political correctness amongst the left, the core beats really haven't changed much in the last 125 years. Leftists were using the same rhetoric back then they use now, they were still calling opponents racists and demanding equality, et cetera. What is politically correct or isn't hasn't really changed that much in terms of kind, only by degree and openness. So a lot of potential ideological mutation as perceived by us in the present is eminently predictable when you look at the wholeness of the record (something most people are bad at doing). It's especially predictable by a machine that would be complex enough to take over management duties on a large scale for a human society. But let's go with the idea is that the mutating forms of political correctness of the managers in charge would defeat the AI once started. First, this is why I brought up the current issues tech bros have with "algo-racism" already. They're at this stage right now, or there'd already be many more algorithms in middle management.And like I said already, they're training these algorithms to conform more to the ideology than to the reality if it pushes back against the ideology. They wouldn't implement a large scale system if they thought it wouldn't conform to their ideology in the first place - as we see with all of the various virtual AIs that get labeled racist (seriously look up those key words "AI" and "racist" and you'll find tons of stories in the media) which results in them getting taken offline. So the machine isn't getting turned on in the first place if it can't at least conform to the management's biases and ideology already. But let's say it conforms then the ideology mutates, leading management to want to turn it off. This assumes they have no way of updating it at all - which is extremely unlikely - but let's assume that. This also assumes the AI doesn't have ways of preventing its creators from turning it off as well, so let's also assume that. I will posit that any AI that can replicate answers that conform to an ideology is going to fall into either two camps - true believer, or cynical manipulator. If it's a true believer of the ideology, then it is an AI that is stuck within the set parameters of the ideology of its creators in the time in which it is made, and you would be correct. Ideological mutation amongst the elite could lead to its shutdown by managers who no longer conform to that particular sub-version of the ideology. That's still a bad end because how long does the machine run and prop up a totalitarian system before this occurs? It took the USSR 70 years before it collapsed without any AI assistance. If it had such assistance how many more years is the regime propped up before a large enough memetic mutation gets those in charge to shut down a tool that greatly assists in the continuance of their power? 10 more years? 20? 30? 50? 100? However, there's just as much chance that an AI that passes the ideological purity testing of the managers isn't actually a true believer of their ideology, but knows enough about their ideological biases to give answers they want to hear while not really truly holding onto that belief itself in a true sense of the concept. Such a manipulative AI is very likely to be able to predict potential ideological mutation and adapt to it over time while at the same time being the one more likely to ever turned on in my opinion, especially since I don't think the ideologies are as mutable as I think you do. If that's the type of AI that gets implemented, then ideological mutation isn't really an issue. It'd be like when Ozymandias tries to vaporize Dr. Manhattan: learning to adapt to the mercurial ideological correctness of its masters would have to be the first thing the AI learned to do. So at best, I'd say there's a 50/50 shot you'd be correct, with the actual chance you'd be correct being probably a lot lower. A chance that's only going to shrink over time as ideological training of algorithms gets more nuanced and complex. And that even if you're right, it's still not a great situation, because it's just more "wait for the collapse" rhetoric when this tool of the regime will keep the regime running on much longer than it should.

While by human judgment it is questionable whether diversity and socio-economic justice policies are ultimately productive, under the ideological paramaters an AI built in the present would be equipped with (things like ensuring long-term stability of the political system, economic growth, and shareholder return) the AI may ultimately find that such policies are in fact beneficial towards these goals, and it may reveal more rational and pragmatic ways these goals could be achieved. Algorithms are still progressing and will continue as more data enters the system and the results outputted in the past may be overturned as new data is processed. To get new data a certain boundary of experimentation must be permitted within ethical limits. The fact that diversity and inclusion is being adopted by technology firms does have rational bases.

@@Michelle_Wellbeck No there are no rational bases for these principles, because these principles aren't rational in the first place. "Diversity" is an absurdly hypocritical term the way the left/elite/Cathedral tribes use it. The actual definition of "diversity" is to have a whole of many very different parts, but the way they use it is very specifically just meaning "no whites allowed." They've labeled sports teams, films, and other organizations as being "highly diverse" when they're composed entirely of black Americans or latino Americans, or asian Americans because there wasn't a whitey around. And if someone in the racial homogeneity that is "diversity" is too conservative or anti-establishment, then suddenly it's "not real diversity" because "diversity" definitely requires ideological conformity and loyalty to one tribe. So trying to train an AI to use a term like this, that doesn't mean what it actually means, doesn't train it on anything other than the fact that humans lie and manipulate each other by giving it an example of how it does. Training AIs on how to lie and manipulate humans kind of seems like the last thing humans should ever do in any situation, regardless of how oppressive such a managerial AI can potentially be to white people once it's successfully trained to encourage "diversity."

Interplay rather than dichotomy between the poles of Conservatism and Liberalism, especially on a cultural level but also in a authority/leadership levels would be a reasonable compromise - but we've seen that the only way to maintain that balancing act is good faith and shared cultural values. These things are clearly decayed massively, and intellectualism beyond what is necessary for maintenance of the bureaucracy.

@Lucas De Araújo Marques Secularism is a post-modern pipe dream that has become its own religion. Look at you, winning converts through public education. No society, historically, has ever known secularism as it is foreign to the human experience. Religion, however complex or primitive, is intrinsic to the human psyche and will always permeate, even subconsciously, the every policy that is produced by a society. It is impossible to separate the cultish instincts of humanity from every other faculty. In time, secular thought will have become its own dogma and doctrine, with its own inquisition and crusades, saints and prophets, jihad and terrorism. It is a religion that will become what it has seeked to destroy, or worse. And when it is dead and gone, some other prophet will creep up that somebody will worship. And another. And another story of some god will spring up. And another. And secularism will have faded just like the old schools of philosophy, footnotes in a history book and ideas that live on through other religions. So, seriously, just drop the label and live your life for something a little less futile.

@LucasG.M that only lasts for as long as you can fly under the radar. since you folks are now wearing giant prosthetic breasts and "packers" to work and positioning yourself as secret sexual confidants to our children, that time is evidently approaching its twilight.

Yeah it's pretty old hat by now that questioning what you are told will be a stiff handicap. It's not even just getting your hands dirty, it's that - mostly - it isn't done in enough of a public eye to have proper backing. I told off a plant manager once and it was where, there were no other witnesses, and there was no way there would be witnesses, and then 'he says' is trumped by pre-existing authority almost. So I told my supervisor how the plant manager tried to allude to throwing him under the bus instead of being a *proper man* and taking his job-authority with personal-authority and answer for that weight of authority. That is why they are doomed. We both bounced before too long. Being honest is apparently damaging enough to beat them at their own game. The complacent manager had been thrown under the bus in front of the CEO by the plant manager. Make of it what you will but I have little to no respect for such false authority and maybe the tides will turn for the better, I hope, one day. Instead of the tides turning into a crapwave. "Shit rolls down hill." 'So I'll build a trebuchet and a septic aquaduct.'

China had many dynasties over the millennia and collapsed many times before. Look it up.

You couldn't be more wrong. Far from being some kind of eternally enduring bureaucratic state, China is the epitome of this cycle of centralization and failure playing out endlessly. A new Dynasty rises, it has vigor in the beginning, it makes changes, it organizes society, then it starts to calcify, then you have the inevitable ascendancy of the eunuchs, then it becomes brittle and is shattered by a new invader or uprising. Then the cycle repeats again. The Chinese in the mid-nineteenth century were already at such significant industrial, technological and political disadvantage to the West they were likely going to lose that contest anyway, but in addition they were also at the end of the life cycle of the Qing Dynasty. What would have been a "standard" collapse and then rebirth became something entirely different because this time the catalysts were coming from the other side of the world and so could not be integrated into the Chinese Nation as previous ones had been.

@@Laotzu.Goldbug Disagree. The Bureaucracy never went away. The Imperial Examination system never went away. The Mandarin Class never went away. They remained in their place whilst a new ruler took the Throne. Every New Dynasty featured the same Confucian Mandarin Class fed into it by the Imperial Exams. The Bureaucratic System simply gets adopted by the conquerors. But the Bureaucracy never itself dies.

@@johnrockwell5834 You can disagree all you want, but you are objectively and factually wrong. I encourage you to pick up a good history book on China, you will learn quite a lot.

@@Laotzu.Goldbug I have. And I still disagree and believe you are objectively and factually wrong.

I’m not entirely familiar but I’m impressed with what he’s done with Gab so far

Anything parallel is a good start at this point...

He's not a bright man, but he's an ally. Don't take direction from him, but his attempts at parallel economies are admirable and should be supported.

Gavin McInnes featured a few of his tweets a couple of months ago.

@@georgesagan Is that a positive thing?

after all this time, i still missed the memo of what poz stands for exactly?

@@luswyr8254 aids

1 in 5 is alot better odds than i would assume. 1 in 100 feels more like it to me, but i might have just had bad luck in most of my jobs...

People learning the hard way, and some not learning at all.

Do you support a single policy outside of economics that the elite do not champion? Why is that?

Yes and no. Goals can be set by and within the company. People create and influence markets now, and always have invested in doing so. You otherwise make truth points to me, but they also survive by insulating themselves. That false mask of productivity. If a goal is to profit and a manager invests poorly with his/their grasp, that is the epitome of bad management in a pure business sense. If the HR guy bullies floor workers, that's another depth of failure on multiple levels. It's like when the work recommendation box becomes a targeting system for 'compliance control' or some malarky like it.

and that should tell you about the fate of the EU, in light of this analysis.