dam, nerfs ;-;. the buff is now a 12/28 split, which really impacts how this performs. The first bonus from the 4 piece for natlan characters is now not too powerful for non natlan characters. I'll make a new video just so ppl can see just in case. edit. as of 8/5, it dont work with physical anymore ;-;
oh yah that would be pretty cool, maybe like a tame night soul effect where everyone in the team gets it so teammates can use the other new set. man rly i wish siegewinne gave everyone bond of life which would’ve made her rly unique ;-;
Furina/ZL are the best supports of their respective elements though lol. Any team that would use XQ or Yelan gets an overall DPS increase by swapping to Furina (with the exception of some dendro teams). ZL is the strongest shielder by far, and the most versatile geo support because he provides universal resistance shred. It's funny you're using these two as an example of "not the best in their element" because if you look at spiral abyss metrics, the meta team compositions basically revolve entirely around these two (and Neuvillette)
I would be so happy if Albedo get a back as a pseudo shielder support with the new set (his 120 em talent will finaly be utilised). There are just so much possibilities with the new set it's insane.
I think it might be worth mentioning that the equipping character needs to be the one triggering the reaction, therefore meaning that haphazardly applying elements without any consideration for who is triggering the reactions is probably not going to work. I can still imagine this working really well for Natlan characters in general, both as a main DPS and as a supportive set.
And yet Arlechinno dominates. Characters and artifacts with BoL are interesting to use but very limiting. And this will happen again with these special Natlan mechanics. And again with Sneznhaya if they follow the same pattern
i personally think arlechinno is a special case cuz her numbers are just that high. If we look at chloride, she's just good, nothing out of the ordinary.
@@pseudologue5965you need to actually look at what these sets do to come to a conclusion with how useful it is, specifically the buffing set will be useful all around, a 25% dmg buff is kinda good
i just really hope kachina/xilonen is/are going to be off field geo sub dps's/healers that can put down constructs (-> incentivizes using chiori over albedo) . hero set will be a massive buff to literally every geo unit ever and even more so if we do get a (preferably teamwide) geo healer in order to enable furina. 48% bonus DMG for BOTH your on field geo dps and furina's pets that's insane 🙏🙏🙏
we do have Kachina's kit rn homdgcat.wiki/gi/char?lang=EN#_Kachina and its what ur wanting. Though I cant currently tells if shes a sub dps or just an on fielder with off field contruct/application. But yah, rejoice geo mains
WAIT....... does that mean Kachina is a perfect sub DPS for Navia teams? If she triggers crystallize she'll be granting Navia a 50% elemental damage bonus right?
Or i will cope even more, xilonen gonna be best teammate for her, cuz provide shield for geo res and can hold hero set, thats why leakers said she will be meta support, would be cool if she have even more buffing capabilities in her kit
If the pyro archon is an off field pyro dps, Chevreuse overload teams would be very good, imagine this: Clorinde: BoL set Archon: Hero set Fischl: Troupe Chevreuse: Noblesse This would go really hard
I can see kazuha with VV + benny with Hero slap on any team will be more OP than ever especially for those that snapshots, My Internatioal team would truly love this update
@@yun3_ i get you i also tend to dislike my voice but i genuinely think that you have a very nice voice, please appreciate yourself more!! like this wasn't the best day for me so i was searching for videos to distract myself, i'm glad your video found me haha
i think as of now, best user for this set are baizhu, seeing how his burst works, 14 sec of offfield dendro app so he can have 100% uptime on this. zhongli is also a good user but his pillars break so yea not really PS Neuv got a buff i think neuv furina kazuha baizhu - is the prime team baizhu's dendro will almost always cause bloom reaction, and kazuha wont mess with them
One of my friends kept joking with my other friend who is an itto user, saying that "itto is a support not a dps". Now its actually gonna come true lol
It's definitely replacing petra, but I don't think it will replace VV as much as it will be built alongside VV. There's been a small resurgence of "Petra" usage when furina came out (people building harder into other stats since they can drop the EM bonus off their goblets... which in turn, makes Petra's damage % bonus better again and worth bringing to a team)
I think itll be super interesting for future natlan anemo dps’, but very curious to this paired with VV too. imma be honest, i personally haven’t seen anyone use petra before in like my entire time playing genshin.
Its worse than Petra for teams that arent Natlan related teams if your team is consistently able to proc the buff on Petra (i.e Neuvillette teams with Zhongli). Its a 25% damage bonus as opposed to a 35% one. Moreover, Petra isnt difficult to proc and you will most probably accodentally pick up a crystalize shard.
I think this set will see use in some Dendro teams because its a way to buff Dendro damage and other elements. Might help Emilie teams, especially ones with Xiangling, as the someone could buff both of the off field DPSs.
the hero set looks very good for support, sadly half of it os only available to natlan since the mechanic (hopefully they stay with their trope where archons are support + sub-DPS type rather than going full DPS) man i was hoping for my charlotte to be using this but half of it is null in your list of reactions (anemo should not be listed on the pyro and hydro, since anemo doesnt stick to enemies, it only works if the enemy is infused with anemo like hypostasis almost every element have same amount of reactions except cryo and dendro if we consider them to be the trigger pyro > hydro/electro/cryo/dendro electro > pyro/hydro/cryo/dendro hydro > pyro/hydro/electro/dendro geo > pyro/cryo/electro/hydro anemo > pyro/cryo/electro/hydro cryo > pyro/electro/hydro dendro > pyro/electro/hydro this is very good on certain reactions tho like quicken and electrocharge and maybe even on burning team since you dont need to worry about certain element disappearing also i think this can still work on overload chevreuse, if your maining raiden use thoma or xiangling to hold this set, raiden applies very high amount of electro duing burst not even xiangling's app can keep up if your using arlechino have the off field electro use this instead (just consider who applies more of the element) sadly doesnt work well with vape teams tho (or does it? overvape anyone?) remember the duration is 10 seconds so you dont need to reapply as much
Ur 100% right. My chart was just for how the elements react with each other and I didnt consider that It should rather be for how it applies to this set
if you have slimes or other enemies with living elemental auras like abyss mage. will mono teams still work? i feel this 30%-40% of the time you will run into those types of situations. kinda like niche situations... also don't forget about environment lightning, rain, water and burning grass
Imma be honest, didnt even think about that. Yah if ur using mono geo with the new geo lady comin up, this def can work. (though from the leaks, I believe she's like a universal support which buffs based on the elements on ut team)
So someone with constant off field application and a dmg skill burst.... Plus every instance of this also gives pys bonus... ... So, xinyan is the new best eula double pyro buff i guess...
I’m using a very busted overload team Chev Dehya Fischl Clorinde Previously Clorinde’s position was Yae Miko This team has its own res shred, surprisingly dehya doing great pyro dmg (my girl’s C2 tho), and oz going crazy with clorinde’s lightning speed attacks. Also did i mention sufficient sustain and stagnant resistence from Chev and Dehya? If this set turns out to be true, and Mavuika smh turns out to be a premium dehya, then the next meta team is set. Already has its very easy res shred but now with this dmg% bonus, i can even change out the cup for atk%
Sounds solid. I wonder if they go the dehya+ or bennet/xl+, cuz both sound good for me. I will say, the set has been nerfed and the half bonus isn't 25% anymore and just 12%. the full effect of 40% for natlan characters is still rly gud tho
The idea of Natlan characters is to build them full crit dmg and one shoot everything in the game, yeah powercreep is finally here, btw Bennet can use this set in International for a 25% more damage to XL and Childe, this is not a joke, we need to see if it is better than Instructor
Idk about powercreep, if the artifacts for them are so good then they can compensate and make their users weaker. About the set, Bennett doesn't have night spirit state so he can only use it with 1 stack
Yeah, even with only half the effect it's still pretty good. If you have kazuha on the team maybe it's not better than instructor but it should be close, I will try it on Baizhu for my aggravate Keching
speaking of raiden, I wonder if using the new set on her for a vapeload team with say furina, bennet, xl would be worth it cuz i feel like xl would be doing most the dmg
Yes wand will get 25% anemo bonus, but U will only be able to get the 25% buff which only lasts for 10 seconds unless she can trigger a swirl off field. She also needs to trigger a swirl too :)
@@trapchan386this is going to be her new best set, she will buff Xiao, Furina, herself and the 2 piece effect regenerates energy so it's perfect for her
Says that dendro triggers the least in terms of versatility: Proceeds to use Yaoyao and Nahida as great triggers for the set’s effect* JK, great vid as always!
For my chart, it was just a list of reactions. But in practice for the hero set, thx to @ozoahameg3582, it should look like pyro > hydro/electro/cryo/dendro electro > pyro/hydro/cryo/dendro hydro > pyro/hydro/electro/dendro geo > pyro/cryo/electro/hydro anemo > pyro/cryo/electro/hydro cryo > pyro/electro/hydro dendro > pyro/electro/hydro as "anemo should not be listed on the pyro and hydro, since anemo doesnt stick to enemies, it only works if the enemy is infused with anemo like hypostasis almost every element have same amount of reactions except cryo and dendro if we consider them to be the trigger" anemo aura isnt generally a thing also mentioned by @VonTachyon "the equipping character needs to be the one triggering the reaction", just in case anybody missed it.
possibly yeah the only character missing from clorinde team overload is off field pyro possibly pyro archon is the mossing piece and the new mechanic possibly work if they let pyro archon has it
i must add that while this can let gorou buff if not mono geo, bc he doesnt have off field application, it may only last 10 seconds if u can capitalize during that window👍
Thanks youtube algorithm for recommeding you. I'm looking forward for more theorycrafting with new sets and natlan characters. Nothing I love more than Upcoming content being tested to know if it's worth starting to prepare for the character
I want to say I can only put on my tinfoil hat and go off of information i see or read as I don’t have access to the beta ;-; i think they also gotta sign NDAs too. If you don’t mind that, ill see what i can 🧑🍳 up for natlan :)
Mavuika about to be so overpowered its not even funny. Powercreep xiangling and bennet incoming. Also albedo with freedom sworn works so good with this set plus he also gives elemental mastery…. He does not even need to do damage anymore. All he has to do is proc reactions
If they make the archon an on field dps without off field application... ;-; plus albedo can make shields too so he can be ur pseudo sustainer if u play him well
I do believe this is because the early “leaks” were in mined in chinese while the current, more finalized version is when 4.8 dropped with the 25 + 25. Though correct me if im wrong 👍
@@yun3_ diffucult to see since almost all pyro units are on field dps except thoma cheveruse dehya and of course HER, excpet cheveruse and HER dehya and thoma kinda niche, maybe pyro mc will be the enabler and archon is the onfielder
5:57 Wait hold up, I’m a bit confused on this, can u elaborate this? Like if I apply pyro and uses a geo ele for crystallize and then use hydro in order for the buff to work otherwise applying vape in the process won’t work?
Yes. If there is no (hydro/pyro) aura to crystalize bc u accidently vaped, the buff wont work. Do note that in this case of hydro and pyro, If a pyro were to hit hydro, it would not remove the hydro completely depending on the atk. But if hydro were to hit pyro, it would either competely remove it or even apply hydro. So it will rly depend on the elements u plan to try and combine and the timing :) I hope that helps but i can clarify other parts if u need
@@yun3_ ah ok, it seems a bit more complex then I thought considering I have to be extremely carefully, hopefully other characters can utilize it better
it should be 50. I believe the 15 30 was before the actual artifact had come out. Using Homdgcat, honey hunter, or hakush.in, they all give a 25 25 split 👍
You will only get the first 25% on xianyun while the other 25% is locked to Natlan Characters. What's great is that swirl should buff both anemo and the element that was swirled tho. It is still better than noblesse, but IDK if it is better than song of days past
Yes lol its natlan exclusive, the God damn nighsoul burst lol...just like bond of Life in Fontaine, and there are no point to using that artifact set at this time cuz 25% ele dmg is just fcking trash, you already got ele dmg buff artifacts like witch of flame, its only gives 15% ele dmg bonus but instead it buff your reaction dmg so its just better, you can get the ele dmg buff from many characters this man even showed that. Beside that if you dont know, the emblem set buff is also count as ele dmg bonus and it can get up to 75% but mostly around 40-50%. So through these...there are no point to use that artifact on any non natlan character or only if there are a character that can give other charactes get that God damn nightsoul burst thing👍👁👄👁.
@@NzEro4587 as noted in my chart, that 25% isn't anything to joke about being better than noblesse, our current go to support set. The artifact is also a support set so u wouldnt be comparing to emblem or witch? for the night soul, it is not dependent on burst btw, currently, our 3 natlan characters get it by simply skilling 👍
simply put, all new natlan characters will have a special energy bar like wanderer and then get cooler atks. from what ive seen, our 3 current characters get it from using their skill, but then can gain more based on their kits. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-lN-GkKdOj4s.htmlsi=43ASXhTOVqt19xus
@@FlareKnight808 I wish I could pull a 2nd key for my furina too cuz dang that weapon is goated. But my funds after trying to get c4 kirara ;-; 68 pulls for 2 kiraras, 0 kavehs
I was going to make my wuwa video tday but might have talk about this in a vid rq. I do believe that it's actually 15%/25% going off of homdgcat and hakush.in
@@leechaolan26 I do see it saying 12/28 on reddit, but I still believe it's 15/25. I also see that this is 15/30 on honey impact, with all of these websites having all the other changes that just occurred tday. One of these must've gotten messed up, but I'll be sure to put both numbers just in case if i make a vid
@@yun3_ She's one of the few characters that can trigger 3 reactions at a time. I really hope that they give older characters a way to get night spirit.
@@infrnlmssh9719 I don't think the new craftable weapons of natlan will which is actually baffling. Like the fontaine weapons gave BOL, so why cant the natlan ones give a pseudo night spirt. 😥unless they change it
I hope that's good thing. maybe? I've been trying keep my recent vids a bit more "professional" but generally sound like how I do in my first and second ever shorts.
@@yun3_ It is! Your way of talking is an easy way to hook people to watch your video because the way you talk not only is clear but also making people want to see more videos, well that's just my experience though xd
yeah but if something powercreep arlecchino set domain i quit the game, after months of farming those golems. i could not stand staying with that cringe gladiator offset. mihoyo you better not invalidate my month of farming. let's not start the Xiao situation swapping artefact set all over again. i'm not joking if this set powercreep all my work and pain this will be the last drop.
homdgcat.wiki/gi/char?lang=EN#_Kachina she seems to be like a quickswap dps (iirc) with her construct doing periodic damage on/off. there are def other vids out there explaining her kit more in detail👍
I talked to another person in the comments who said that faruzan does swirl off field. As such going off of that (me being faruzanless) this set should work as long as u swirl.
@@yun3_ First 3 characters looks are meh, enviroment is similar to sumeru desert, pokemons, looks to childish even for genshin. Even the curent summer event looks like was made by a 6 year old who was high on some expired acid.
ah i c. i personally do enjoy their designs, and their kits are especially unique. i hope that natlan continues to focus on movement. haven’t done the new summer event yet, but have heard good things
I think, when the wielding char in night soul mode, it just give 25% plus dmg to the wielding char not to all party member. #cmiiw 😢 So its 25% dmg bonus to all party member, and 50% dmg bonus to the wielding char in night soul mode.
Hello, I'm just here to clarify. The first part of the passive states " all nearby party members of Elemental Types involved in that reaction gain 25% All..." As mentioned in another comment, it should work like how hakushin ring did. hopefully that helps👍
