Why the Panzer 38(t) is NOT underrated!

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Quite some people made the remark that the Panzer 38(t) is the most underrated German Panzer of World War 2. Yet, there are two problems, first, it is NOT underrated and second, their arguments usually had severe factual errors on the deployment of the Panzer 38(t) in them.
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@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized 5 лет назад

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@sinisterisrandom8537 5 лет назад

There's a Game called war thunder where the Panzer 38(t) where this tank is a reserve vehicle ive used it still think its my personal favorite

@FRENKI8888 5 лет назад

The problem is Lt. vz. 38 Isn´t german but CZZEEEEEEEEEEEECCCCHHHHH. *distant Kde domov můj starts playing*

@seriousthree6071 5 лет назад

It is quite possible for someone who knows all of the PzKpWg 1-6 tanks, a load of British, American, Russian, Japanese, Italian tanks to not know about the 38t. They just are not mentioned that much.

@PATTHECATMCD 5 лет назад

"Ach, I liked zese panzers so much, I annexed zer country" - Adolf Hitler. :)

@NeuKrofta 5 лет назад

Numbers wise for Poland and France you are correct yet you fail to mention how many out of those numbers actually made it to the battlefield. The German panzers were notoriously unreliable whereas the Pz 38 was notoriously reliable. This would change the effective numbers more in favor of the Pz 38t in its influence in the Polish and French campaigns.

@mihaelkyoleyan1543 4 года назад

Panzer Aces like Otto Carius started their career in the Panzer 38(t). In his book Tigers in the mud he points out that the crew felt invincible at the start of Operation Barbarossa and that the tank was great for travelling.

@tekis0 3 года назад

I was going to make a similar comment about Carius starting out in a 38t.

@imadequate3376 2 года назад

Good infantry perspective of the eastern front is "In Deadly Combat" by Gottlob Bidermann. He survived the war with a gold wound badge and an Iron cross. Most gold wound badges were posthumously awarded so his survival is some miracle

@gingerninja2456 Год назад

Otto carius' also criticised it as having " brittle armour" after one of his crew was severely injured in a 38t. The Rumanian army used them skillfully (as they didn't have much else).

@geoffflato6065 Год назад

My grandfather was a tank commander on the eastern front, he loved the 38(t). Fast, maneuverable, and very easy to shoot well. He considered them the overall best tank he ever ran.

@mirkojorgovic Год назад

Really pz38t was very good tank in battle of France Predecessor pz35t was also comparable in this class with French tanks. Pz38t was fastest tank in battle of France 1940. Only Soviet's BT was faster , not too much.

@Boppinabe 5 лет назад

The Pz38(t) is easily the cutest, most adorable tank of the war. Just look at that thing!

@TheCleber96 5 лет назад

What about the Luchs II though?

@Boppinabe 5 лет назад

@@TheCleber96 worthy submission! The PzII Luchs is the first runner up in my Miss Panzer Competition.

@mistertree553 5 лет назад

Boppinabe what about the Italian L3/33?

@Boppinabe 5 лет назад

@@mistertree553 as a tankette, the L3/33 would be in a different pageant.

@nindger4270 5 лет назад

@@Boppinabe Sorry but the Hotchkiss 1935 is cuter than both the 38(t) and the Luchs.

@andrews_lego_tanks_and_more 5 лет назад

Personally I love the Panzer 38(T), it's a great vehicle. Its younger brother the 35(T) isn't in the spotlight as much though.

@logandegnitz2403 5 лет назад

Both were personal favorites of mine in WOTB before they got rid of them. *insert teardrop*

@genericpersonx333 5 лет назад

Technically, the LT-35 is better described as an older cousin, being developed before the LT-38 and sharing little in common with it. The LT-35 doesn't get much attention because it was not a popular nor very successful vehicle design. Germans used it because they could form a handful of complete battalions from the 240 or so they acquired from the Czechs in 1939, but the vehicles were rather unreliable and a bit too slow to really meet the needs of the Panzerwaffe. The Germans ran them until 90% of them were destroyed or broke down, deeming even the manufacture of spare parts to be a waste of time. The LT-38 was pretty much better in every way, so that is why the LT-35 is a footnote while the LT-38 is an all-star.

@Dakerthandark 4 года назад

@@genericpersonx333 While reliability wasn't it's strong side, for tank in late 1930's, I'd say Pz 35's reliability wasn't bad, it was simply meh (while 38 was known to be extremely reliable). Problem was that factories were no longer producing spare/replacement parts, so 35s weren't that easy to fix, which magnified impact of its only average reliability.

@a_random_tank_152mm7 4 года назад

Logan Degnitz IKR

@sirrathersplendid4825 4 года назад

Juraj Zeman - Not successors of the Czech tanks, the very same tanks. Same pigs, just wearing different (German) lipstick.

@MultiZirkon 5 лет назад

"...you can't underrate something you don't know anything about." -- Beautifully spot on :-)

@gervariola7172 5 лет назад

One could argue that the 38(t) in the french campaign, although only accounting for 9% of german panzer force was actually quite important because it has to bee seen in relation to the number of medium tanks rather than tanks in total. Considering the low production numbers of Pz.Kpfw.III / IV until the beginning of Fall Gelb, and considering that mainly the medium tanks were able to penetrate most of the allied tanks armor in direct combat, the 38(t) seems to be an important part of german forces , already at the french campaign.

@zikmunddvorak4816 4 года назад

Thanks, I was going to write exactly the same, Pz38t was a vital addition to the German forces, because in 7th and 8th division (and in 6th division using the Pz35t) it replaced the Pz IIIs completely (and Pz IIs partly). So it was vital for 3 out of the 10 divisions in total (accoding to Panzertruppen: The Complete Guide to the Creation & Combat Employment of Germany’s Tank Force). So the french betrayal (Munich treaty 1938) was bitter and costly for the French army eventually contributing to strengthening the German army.

@l.a.wright6912 Год назад

not to mention even almost 10% is actually really significant

@cosmoray9750 Год назад

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@markusdegenhardt8678 10 месяцев назад

@@zikmunddvorak4816 oh, i never saw the connection between the french betrayel and the "czech revenge". Its an interesting point you brought up there. I wonder if there was some kind of a "polish revenge" as well. I cant think about one.

@USSChicago-pl2fq 5 лет назад

Could you do a video about the Panzer 35t because no one really talks about it? Because people usually talk about the Panzer 38t when people talk about Czech Panzers in German service.

@USSChicago-pl2fq 5 лет назад

Also why did Germany leave the LT vz 34 alone and leave them to Slovak and Hungry

@SilesianusMaximus 5 лет назад

@@USSChicago-pl2fq Germans did not gave the LT vz. 34 to Slovakia. When Czechoslovakia ceased to exist and Czech troops stationed in Slovakia went home or into emigration, they left all their equipment in Slovakia. There was 27 LT vz. 34 (or LT-34 in Slovak designation) left in Slovakia and 23 in Czechia. 23 Czech pieces were seized by Wehrmacht and due to their old age they were (probably) scrapped. Source: KLIMENT, Charles; FRANCEV, Vladimír: Československá obrněná vozidla 1918-1948, p. 59.

@ineednochannelyoutube5384 5 лет назад

They are very similar probably thats why.

@jessejamesmoore1443 5 лет назад

You don’t really need to talk about it unless you want to say it’s origin design. There were About 3X less then the 38(t) and it had less of what made The 38 good.

@LN997-i8x 5 лет назад

@@ineednochannelyoutube5384 The 35(t) and 38(t) are not all that similar, beyond visual profile and basic lineage. Their drivetrains, suspension, layout, turrets, armament and dimensions are all significantly different from one another (the 35(t) is actually slightly larger and heavier, interestingly).

@companyman4713 5 лет назад

I think the Panzer 38(t) and the Hetzer might be more known and memed because of the Girls und Panzer anime.

@cnlbenmc 5 лет назад

Well the Hetzer is a tiny monster in WarThunder if you got all the parts, use it right and don't get sniped in your driver viewing hatch.

@cnlbenmc 5 лет назад

+@@day2148+ You get flanked in a Hetzer; you're dead meat on a stick.

@walesdoesntsuck6635 5 лет назад

Anime is for degenerates

@randomguy-tg7ok 5 лет назад

Meanwhile in WoT the Hezer is tier 4 and has a Spladge Gun. I like it.

@strategicperson95 5 лет назад

I don't know about that. WoT community memed the Hetzer even before GuP came out; and the Pz 38(t) is well known among a lot of people like me who were Rommel Fanatics, because they were in his division. GuP probably only brought it to people who watched it, but weren't tank/history enthusiasts or players of tank games to begin with.

@paulpeterson4216 4 года назад

In my reading, the Czech 38 which became the Pz 38t was always highly regarded as a top tank of its day. And like the PzIII the tank chassis was used throughout the war after the tank itself became obsolete.

@Pyrochemik007 Год назад

It had the flaw of the parts being riveted together, instead of welded. So if the armor was impacted, the rivets turned into shrapnels inside the tank, killing the crew like a meatgrinder. The reason it became obsolete is having too weak weapon for later stages of war. But since it was very reliable, armored enough to protect crew from rifles or schrapnels and it moved well through terrain, the tanks were repurposed. I think the FLAK was the most often modification.

@rc59191 Год назад

Of course it's good us Czechs made it lol. Not many people know just how many amazing tanks and firearms we've designed. Poland doesn't get enough credit either that Polish 7TP and the 10TP were amazing then the Soviet's stole it from them.

@ErwinRommel-91 5 лет назад

Panzer 38 (t) is best waifu

@FRENKI8888 5 лет назад

Don´t you dare insult The best Czech tank with anime terms. It´s already bad enough that that fucking "girls and panzer" showed Lt. vz. 38 and then they dared to put a FUCKING GOLD SPRAYPAINT ON IT I WANNA NUKE THE CREATORS OF THAT "SHOW" SO DAMN MUCH.

@Dakerthandark 4 года назад

@@HerpCinematic Actually, you're wrong. Germans were unaware of LT vz 38s, and only got them in March 1939. But apparently, their military immedietly fell in love with it, calling it 'czech Panzer III' for a while. It must be noted that 1939's Pz IIIs still had 37 mm cannon, and more importantly, only 15 mm steel for protection. 1939's Pz III was basically in all ways possible inferior to LT vz. 38, except for number of men in turret.

@Minboelf 4 года назад

@@FRENKI8888 it shows the inexperience the girls had and plus they later on add the usual grey paints onto the tank before replacing it with hetzer

@humbleguardsman5578 4 года назад

@@Minboelf remember when they put fucking flags on the stug? Didn't they also paint it pink?

@Hofsterman 4 года назад

Sorry but amount of stolen Skoda LT38 tanks , renamed and produced by Germans in stolen Czechoslovakian factories renamed to Škoda werke Herman Goring in each battle has nothing to do with an importancy. I am sure that amount of Panzer 38t in each battle has something to do with production line ability how time went by and your numbers just confirm this idea. Anyway. I am sure that Germany at the biggining of the war welcomed any good and useful captured weapons, but also looked after their own running factories to keep their owners (members of NSDAP) rich and happy. I think that everyone can imagine how big corruption have been around leaders of NSDAP

@_datapoint 5 лет назад

As an easily irritated, native (American) English speaker, your use of “underrated” is spot on.

@playboicartiismydad4842 5 лет назад

native (American) as in a American-Born person or as in a Native American so called "Red-Indian"

@tamlandipper29 5 лет назад

Easily irritated, eh? * unlatches science pole *

@_datapoint 5 лет назад

Tamlan Dipper I didn’t say I was proud of it.

@_datapoint 5 лет назад

yummyNikNak technically I am both. I am on the rolls of the Cherokee Nation. Although I’m only 1/16. For some reason fractions are accepted. :)

@_datapoint 5 лет назад

BUt more to your question I was using “native” to mean born in the US.

@Peter22055 5 лет назад

im pissed of when people say 38t is german tank, please remember forever lt38 and lt35 are ČESKÉ tanks.

@AKUJIVALDO 3 года назад

It was produced for Germany, therefore Panzerkampfwagen 38(t) A - E IS a German tank. Now you can pass off to your sad safe space.

@kamikazoo6599 3 года назад

@@AKUJIVALDO (t) means tschechien which means czech in german. By your logic Panzerkampfwagen B-2 740(f)¨would be a german designed tank.

@Errornamenotfound-bi1hh 2 года назад

@@AKUJIVALDO No it produced Czechoslovakia in 1938 for itself and its defence... The germans just stole IT after annextion

@keithwortelhock6078 4 года назад

Do not worry, your use of English is better than some English people I know.

@lionheartx-ray4135 5 лет назад

You used the term correctly. Typically when people talk about underrated they mean it doesn't get much talk about in the public eye or media. As someone who knows slightly more about WW2 tanks then the average person (no way makes me an expert) I hardly ever anyone talk about 38t.

@frederickthegreatpodcast382 5 лет назад

I’d say the Goliath was the most unappreciated vehicle of all time!!! *Not really though*

@patrickcummins79 5 лет назад

thing had excellent anti-air tho..

@shellshockedgerman3947 5 лет назад

GOLIATH ONLINE.

@sgt.ribeye3742 5 лет назад

People forget about Borgward

@arianas0714 5 лет назад

THAT THING GOES *BOOOOOOOM*

@genericpersonx333 5 лет назад

@@patrickcummins79 You made an old Starcraft player very happy with that, Sir. #BattlecruiserOperational

@gings4ever 5 лет назад

Oddly enough, I find the Pz 38(t) as a fine rolling box that could laugh at tankettes as well as likely laughing at the BTs. I kinda forgot what the 38(t) struggled against apart from likely encountering early T-34's and KV-1's and the occasional KV-2 since it could have whacked the shit out of any tankette or early light tank

@troo_6656 5 лет назад

It wasen't build for weather on the western front so there were some reliability issues. But overal it was a realy good tank by its time.

@ComissarZhukov 5 лет назад

The soviet 45mm gun (the one in BT and T-26 tanks) could very well knock it out, And the BT-7 front hull was better armored with 40mm sloped armour, instead of 30mm almost vertical on the 38(t).

@ineednochannelyoutube5384 5 лет назад

@@ComissarZhukov It was relatively even match Id say.

@ComissarZhukov 5 лет назад

@@ineednochannelyoutube5384 Well the BT-7 armor was all welded instead of riveted, was faster, the BT-7M (the last version) had a diesel engine which gave it better fuel economy and longer range as well as making it less prone to catching fire. But its biggest downside was the 2 man turret, and the lack of radios and intercoms on every tank. Unlike the germans which where very thorough in equipping all their combat vehicles with them. And those two things (among others non related to the tank itself) gravely affectes the performance of the BT-7 which otherwise was a fine tank for the time.

@ineednochannelyoutube5384 5 лет назад

@@ComissarZhukov It is fascanating how long it took to work out the ergonomics of the tank in general.

@OmarSlloum 5 лет назад

thank god, I thought you'd list a bunch of negative points on the 35 and 38t and make me dislike the tank

@jefersonnl 5 лет назад

I had asked for a video about the 38t, sorry if I didn't make myself clear, what I wanted really was an analysis of its design, employment and production, the german takeover of the factories in Czechoslovakia, performance in combat, maintenance, etc. I didn't mean to imply that they were underrated in any way. In fact, when I was a kid, the first book about tanks my father bought me, there it was, the famous 38t, and the book didn't have any articles about the PzKpfw I or II nor pictures of them, though it covered well the PzKpfw III and IV.

@pestilenceplague4765 5 лет назад

Ready for the new Sabaton album?

@1sb3rg34 5 лет назад

Pestilence Plague Eye

@jambyjameson1380 5 лет назад

Aye.

@bread5020 4 года назад

even tho theres an abundant amount of tanks in WW2 the Pz. 38 T and the Luchs have a special place in my heart

@chosearmandoarmando3864 5 лет назад

for me its not Panzer 38 (t) but LT-38 , it was designed to protect my country borders but it never had the chance to do that

@graemes813 Год назад

There were 187 Panzer 35t tanks available for Barbarossa as well, so a total of 941 tanks of Czech origin. That's 32% of a total of some 3398 tanks used. I would suggest that that is a very significant number of these two tanks and that you are underplaying their significance to the operation.

@mathias369 4 года назад

One of the best tanks in history definitely on the top of my tank list! Great video as always cheers!

@TheLPN05Fan 5 лет назад

The Panzer 38 (t) is a slower, better armored, worse armed BT-5/BT-7. Best used in Scouting and in minor amount in Infantry Support.

@ineednochannelyoutube5384 5 лет назад

Its a fine MBT from the mid 30s, comperable to any of its contemporaries, better than some of them.

@Dakerthandark 5 лет назад

Actually, BT-5 and BT-7 had 45mm 20K cannon, which had weaker penetration than 37 mm of czech Škoda A7. Difference wasn't big, but I wouldn't call it worse armed.

@Ivane_Maskhulia 5 лет назад

Most underated Panzer for me is still Panzer 4. People who play games do not like panzer 4 because it has average armor, but armor is not most important part of the tank. panzer 4 had great gun, big space and good speed. also best gun depression of all tanks.

@samiam5557 5 лет назад

I like the Pzkw IV's. 😀

@Mortrag 5 лет назад

If you refer to "good speed" and "great gun", you have to be more specific, because both changed drastically over the years 1937 - 1945. 1. The Panzer IV (or PzKpfw IV, NOT Pzkw) was uparmored several times during the production, while the engine wasn't changed. So while the Panzer IV B hat a powerratio of 17 hp/t, the Panzer IV H and J were down to 12 hp/t (Panther had 15,6 hp/t, Tiger still 12,3 hp/t). So the late versions were in the matter of speed comparable to a Tiger, which isn't known as a fast tank. 2. Until the Panzer IV F it had only the shortbarreld 7,5-cm-KwK 37 L24. This gun was ok against light armoured tanks (british cruiser-tanks, pre-war Soviet tanks), but against more heavy armoured tanks (most of the french ones, british Matilda and Valentine, soviet T-34 or KV) it was quite useless. This changed with version F2 and the longer 7,5-cm-KwK 40 L43 and the even longer L48 in the version G upwards. With this gun it could fight all tanks on the western front. In the east it was superior to the early T-34/76, but the later T-34 with the 85 mm gun outclassed the Panzer IV again (not to mention the IS). So you see: both gun and speed characteristics changed over time. And while the early versions had quite good speed but a weak gun, in the later versions it was the other way around.

@neilwilson5785 5 лет назад

Pz 3 and 4 had an excellent ergonomic layout, were quite reliable, and had good guns. they were quite cheap to produce. Their crews were well trained. They had a good combined arms doctrine. So yes, great tanks.

@feuerderveranderung6056 5 лет назад

@@Mortrag The russian 85mm was actually comparable to the 7,5cm KwK L43 in tank battle since both had roughly the same penetration power. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7.5_cm_KwK_40 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/85_mm_air_defense_gun_M1939_(52-K)

@stanislaskowalski7461 5 лет назад

You shouldn't worry about how you use of the word "majority". Politicians do the same all the time. They are elected by a relative majority, they talk as if they had an absolute majority, and they act as the leaders of the entire people. In short, for them: 27% = 51% = 100% Politicians are master mathematicians. That's why they are so good in keeping a budget on tracks.

@lokenontherange 5 лет назад

@Findlay Robertson I really don't understand why anyone votes Labour when they put someone like her in their cabinet... Or most of their cabinet in general actually. Like I'm not a fan of the Democrats in the US but at least people like Obama and Clinton aren't national embarassments.

@ChucksSEADnDEAD 5 лет назад

@@lokenontherange depends on who you ask.

@lokenontherange 5 лет назад

@@ChucksSEADnDEAD Clinton's issue is being slightly sociopathic and a weird amount of conveniences involving dead people. She's not actually retarded. Diane Abbot is the kind of moron who thinks Mao Zedong was a good guy and who "did more good than harm" despite the fact that Mao's policies killed 10-15% of the Chinese population at the time

@lucasmatiasdelaguilamacdon7798 4 года назад

Fun fact, the 38t performs really well in the Tropical regions and the Amazon Rainforest.

@HSMiyamoto 5 лет назад

Two factors make the Pz 38 inferior to the early Pz III, riveted vs. welded armor, and the brittleness of Czech armor vs. the resilient hardened German armor. The Pz 38 had a very reliable power train, which made it an excellent platform for turretless AFVs, but those are not "tanks." I still think either Panzer III, IV or II are most underrated. The Pz 38 never had more than the 37 mm gun used on early Pz III, and was never upgunned to 50 mm, while the Pz II was the first panzer with genuine anti-armor capability. Panzer IV because it is so often overlooked by admirers of the Tigers and Panther. As we all know, it was still the most numerous turreted tank in the Heer, even in April 1945.

@saiien2 5 лет назад

Panzer III was a medium tank. Lt-38 (Panzer 38t in German markings) was more like a light tank.

@Dakerthandark 5 лет назад

Well, there are also two factors that make the LT 38 superior to the early Panzer III. German 37mm cannon of early Panzer III was quite inferior to LT 38's 37mm cannon. Also, it was a smaller target, which could also be advantageous, especially since it had superior cannon. Also, "brittle czech armor" is german fabrication. Perhaps it was true later in war, when germans used best steel they had on their own vehicles and supplied Czech factories with lesser quality one.

@troo_6656 5 лет назад

I like this tank too. It wasen't underated at all at least from what I have experienced. And yes I am from Czech Republic the name is apperent.

@Tonixxy 5 лет назад

could be Polish also....

@firestorm165 5 лет назад

Slightly off topic but I'm actually seriously considering moving to the Czech republic. Anything I should do beforehand? (Besides learning Czech of course)

@LocalHeretic-ck1kd 5 лет назад

@@firestorm165 Interesting question. Im from Czech Republic so let me help you a bit. I assume you are going to live in a town or a city. Then you will have no problem. Czech cities are pretty international like many other european cities. They are used to foreigners and welcome them. Especially Prague. You can speak english in cities and Im pretty sure you will find someone who will understand you. You can learn Czech dring your time there. Czech Republic can offer nice culture and beautiful nature. But you are obliged to drink couple of Czech beers and you have to say that Czech beer is the best beer in the world. That is mandatory.

@firestorm165 5 лет назад

Considering Czech beer is so far the only kind of beer I actually like I think I can handle it. I'm honestly half tempted to bring some of my mates over and order them a MLÍKO just to mess with them lol.

@LocalHeretic-ck1kd 5 лет назад

@@firestorm165 That would be cool. Czechs have great sense of humor. We know lot of jokes and like to laugh. Some people say Czechs smile too little. Thats true, we dont smile at everyone we met but give us a chance, make some friends and you will know that we have no problem to smile and laugh.

@Twirlyhead 5 лет назад

As a Brit I do find it amusing that a German has to teach Americans to speak English.

@VonRammsteyn 5 лет назад

4:11 THANK YOU VERY MUCH! I been calling the 11th panzer div. the ghost divition for years and everybody allways corrected me... Saying that the 7th PD had that nickname... I said I knew that but the 11th also was called that way and nobody belive me...Or didn't care...Because - OFFCOURSE - the 7th was ROMMEL'S divition...

@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized 5 лет назад

fun fact, only the 11th had the Ghost as a symbol. The whole issue btw. is "under further investigation", since I was not particularly happy with the source situation.

@VonRammsteyn 5 лет назад

@@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized There you have it! That white ghost with a sword apears in many panzer's pictures and draws... But nobody ever remember the 11th... Thank you again, bro!

@Neal312 5 лет назад

Sensing a lot of anti LT.38 rhetoric here. j/k What was the involvement of the LT35\Pz.35(t) tanks in France? The common figure I heard was around a quarter of tanks rolling through France were Czechoslovakian.

@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized 5 лет назад

j/k = just kidding for those who don't know (like me). 35(t) in France, 106 according to Frieser. Yeah, I checked those numbers as well, since I thought, maybe there is the source of the confusion, NOPE. So in total about 330 Czechoslovakian tanks in France, which is less than a quarter.

@G_v._Losinj2_ImportantPlaylist 5 лет назад

Military History not Visualized how is this comment 3 days old. btw your great from ny

@BaronUltimo 5 лет назад

Tour the France 1940: German riders on Czechoslovakian bikes.

@TheStugbit 5 лет назад

@@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized and how do you see the Panzer 35 (t) tank? Was it a good tank as well? In Russia, rasputitsa seems to have took it's toll on it. Germans then passed the thing to the Romanians.

@Neal312 5 лет назад

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@matthiasflam1472 3 года назад

This is czechoslivakian lt vz.38 germans only capture ours chzecislovakian tanks.The original name is "lehký tank vzor 38".This tanks was maked in Praga factory same as hetzer becoase hetzer has been maked in czech factories and its czechoslovakian tank.

@rileyatkinson6737 5 лет назад

I dont think its underrated because of all the variants of the tank, the marder 3, hetzer, flakpanzer 38 etc.

@HSMiyamoto 4 года назад

The best evidence that the Czech tanks were not as good as their German counterparts is probably because the Czech machines were considered stopgaps when Germany wanted more Panzer divisions for Barbarossa, after decommissioning their Panzer I and II machines.

@sumrandumguy7177 4 года назад

I agree it’s not underrated. Those who say it is are clearly uninformed, because they are apparently unaware that the Panzer 38 is (deservedly) indeed well rated. There is reason the Germans loved both their Panzer 35s and Panzer 38s

@jasonallen332 5 лет назад

Great video! Thanks and I have to say that I very much enjoy your work. I’m wondering if perhaps you could do a video on the Wehrmacht‘s use of motorcycles during WW2--I’ve seen them so much in newsreels and footage but I’ve always wondered how they used them tactically. Thanks!

@tank1944 5 лет назад

As part of army organization charts they're always with the recon units, something small that can go places quickly and with an MG on the sidecar suppress infantry if they were encountered. That said I would love to know more because like you said they're in the videos but never actually discussed.

@jasonallen332 5 лет назад

Frank Easton thanks! Much appreciated!

@ROBBEAUDOIN66 4 года назад

I like the 38.....but the pz 35 is my favourite......Was there for all the greatest successes of blitzkrieg.

@russwoodward8251 4 года назад

I like the 38(t). Question; was it important to invade Cecheslovakia early in the war to gain accees to it's weapons like the 38(t)?

@DiggingForFacts 5 лет назад

People not understanding the basics of language (underrated and unknown are not synonymous!) and spewing factually wrong information. Then saying the 38(t) was very important is a misconstruction of the fact that they represent Germany capturing the Skoda factory and suddenly having an extra ready-made production line in a time where tank production was still very much lagging behind expectations. It was a highly welcome and very decent stopgap solution for at least a part of that problem.

@qwe5qwe566 5 лет назад

At that time it was decent and modern tank on par with german pz III but due to fast advancement in tank technology it was quickly rendered obsolete as it was not designed to be upgraded. Both Pz III and IV were also pre-war designs but due to being able to be upgraded were usable much longer.

@Zretgul_timerunner 4 года назад

It was a great tank one of the best tanks in the early war period in the german arsenal. And it is far from unknown atleast to Me as a Swede

@yeboxxx_channel_2505 4 года назад

And we czechs were selling the tank into Sweden

@shibe6808 4 года назад

“Hetzer gonna Hetz...” HE SAID IT HE SAID IT!

@ArdWulf 5 лет назад

Perhaps You have missed the mark of appreciating its involvement in both pre-Barbarossa Campaigns cited...what could have possibly filled their slots in the OoB's and as effectively? And what of the 35(t) in any of these momentous campaigns? Lastly, no mention of the occupational uses of the Czech-design tanks on the defensive fronts during said campaigns...nor any uses in the Danish and Norwegian invasions/occupations, nor the Balkan subjugations/garrisons. Nevertheless...I still think your channels are among the most informative and comprehensive available...so keep up the great work!

@LikeUntoBuddha 4 года назад

I know this tank very well. I read below where someone learned it from girls and amine? WTF? For me, it is a gift that the German's got after invading. It was a small but well made and designed tank. And it was "free".

@lmaocetung 3 года назад

LT. VZ. 38 was the best czechoslovakian tank 🇨🇿

@me67galaxylife 5 лет назад

Then what about the 35(t) ?

@martinwalker8569 4 года назад

Rommel used this (our - Czech) tank against French and BEF in 1940; it was good idea to serve our country by British and French to the Hitler's hand . .

@KumaBran 5 лет назад

Panzer I, Panzer II, Panzer III, Panzer 38(t), Panther, Tiger.... In my opinion is this List showing how "underrated" the Panzer IV is. This Tank was used from the beginning of WWII Till the end, switched rolls because Panzer III was lacking capazities and was still used after the war!!! And it is one of the least mentioned Tanks in the Literature, the www and on RU-vid. After all i would call this Tank the real Work Horse of the Wehrmacht.

@artificialintelligence8328 2 года назад

The Stug III is not a tank, but it's probably more of a workhorse.

@Mitchell_Gant 5 лет назад

Didn't Otto Carius in his book call the Pz.38(t) that he started his career with to be the worst tank he ever had anything to do with? I know it's nitpicking,but it's the only instance I can recall of this tank being reflected negatively.

@BrigadierBill 5 лет назад

Otto Carius didn't like the Czech mettalurgy, which wasn't up to German standards (particularly since the 38t was pretty lightly-armored, with the initial variant only having 30mm maximum thickness). That, and they were still armed with the wonderful Pak 36 "Heeresanklopfgerät", Germany's least-effective anti-tank gun.

@Dakerthandark 5 лет назад

@@BrigadierBill I think you must be mistaken, as far as I know, LT vz. 38 never had German Pak 36. It was equiped with Skoda A 7 that greatly outperformed german 37 mm cannon.

@BrigadierBill 5 лет назад

@@Dakerthandark My mistake, not sure if I conflated the guns or assumed they were functionally identical.

@martinpalek5161 7 месяцев назад

Cechoslovakia tank LT vz 38

@jaroslavlobodas9071 3 месяца назад

This Is stolen Czechoslovakia tank...

@bayanimockingjay 4 года назад

Panzer 38.(t), my favourite German tank of the early war, especially during the invasion of France, pretty good medium tank and could hold it's own against a Matilda, A13, or even Char B1, until a panzer 3 or panzer 4 showed up. Even against early Soviet tanks like the T-26, BT-5, or T-28 it could hold it's own.

@yeboxxx_channel_2505 4 года назад

Excuse me, but Czechoslovakia created the tank first.

@bayanimockingjay 4 года назад

@@yeboxxx_channel_2505 I know, but most of the action the tank was involved in was in the German army after the annexation

@potatojuice5124 4 года назад

The STRV m-41 is pretty good though

@Jan_372 5 лет назад

Can it be converted to the Hetzer on a school ship using a conversation kit you bought somewhere?

@dscary1837 5 лет назад

Your use of the term underrated is just fine. I consider itself more informed then the average person on this subject, I'd not heard of this tank,. Thank you for the education you bestow upon us all.

@patrickcloutier6801 5 лет назад

Your viewers might be interested in Steven Zaloga's "Panzer 38(t) vs. BT-7. Barbarossa 1941.", published by Osprey. The book contains much technical discussion about both tanks, as well as battlefield encounters. And the Romanian Army was equipped with a number of Panzer 38(t)s as well. Viewers can find more information about Romanian employment of the tank in Mark Axworthy's "Third Axis, Fourth Ally", Mihai Filipescu's "Reluctant Axis: The Romanian Army in Russia 1941-1944", and "Three Kings: Axis Royal Armies on the Russian Front 1941."

@visayanmissnanny2.076 5 лет назад

The Kaiser approves of your beard

@oskarfabian5200 2 года назад

Ir's actually not German but Czechoslovakian, right?

@harmdallmeyer6449 2 года назад

Yes.

@heatherparisi7078 4 года назад

When the 38t was first introduced it was a superior tank in the 10 ton class which compared favorably to heavier U.S. Stuart tanks and German Panzer 2's. With its small turret mantlet diameter it couldn't be mounted with the 50 mm German anti-tank gun so conversions to Tank Destroyers were its best option for practical use after 1942.

@kirkstinson7316 Год назад

It actually compares well to the early panzer III

@ineednochannelyoutube5384 5 лет назад

During Barbarossa some 300 of them were also in service with Hungary, and I imagine with otjer axis minors as well, making their impact even more significant.

@coachhannah2403 5 лет назад

Used extensively by Army Group North.

@mihaisurdea 4 года назад

The Slovak Fast Division had some 80 38's and the Romanian 1st Armoured Division had 126 35's tanks; both divisions fought in the opening stages of Operation Barbarossa along side Germans.

@photosynthesis69 5 лет назад

I recently got into building gundam model kits. I had done a couple as a kid. At a hobby store recently, this one was more of a traditional hobby shop with lots of military models. They had airplanes both old and new and tanks. The standout was a model kit for a GERMAN t-34 tank. Wasn’t interested in model tanks until I saw that. Wasn’t a panzer, it was in fact a model of a t-34 but was painted with the iron cross. Maybe the idea is it is a “captured t-34”

@firepower7017 5 лет назад

The most underrated tank Every Italian vehicle.

@xenomorph9114 5 лет назад

atleast its better than pz.l and ll

@TomTom-rh5gk 5 лет назад

You are spot on. Great video.

@chrisbrent7487 5 лет назад

At the start of the war the Czech tanks including the 38t were a very large proportion of the tanks that captured France. Definitely not underrated.

@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized 5 лет назад

maybe watch the video, before you state unsubstantiated numbers that are clearly wrong and also refuted within the video?

@chrisbrent7487 5 лет назад

@@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized I didn't state any numbers and close to 10% is significant for a single vehicle type that was far superior to panzer 1 and 2's that were in much higher numbers. Of course the 35t's are included in my statement as well.

@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized 5 лет назад

"a very large proportion" is clearly wrong.

@501ststormtrooper9 4 года назад

What about the Goliath...

@WilmerCook 3 года назад

It's not a German tank

@whiskeytangosierra6 4 года назад

Just tell them to play SPWWII for a while and they will come to appreciate the 38t quite a bit, and discover it is not underrated, but unknown to them.

@adamsvoboda9753 5 лет назад

When I made that comment about Panzer 38 (t) as also underrated during battles for Poland and France, I looked at that more from the angle that at that specific time it was very well armed tank till the Panzer III got 50mm gun. You are absolutely right in the video, it is not underrated, my mistake. Do you see any significant difference in mobility or fire power between divisions equipped basically only with Panzer 38 (t), and divisions that included combination of German light tanks with few dozen mediums? As always, great job! Thank you.

@SC0RCH3er 5 лет назад

Yeah, the thing is that 38t and 35t are mentioned many times together in a lot of documentaries in the context of their addition to Reichs tank numbers (with other CSK equipment which importance gets overlooked a lot), coupled with the fact it had decent gun (early war standard) making them a bit more important than Pz1 and Pz2, so I can see the argument of them beeing important in those campaign. To be honest those are like 2 superstars of Czechoslovak tank construction (there are far more bizzare things in there) and even from them the 35(t) was decent on paper, but after some insight from the guys who drive/roleplay the Lt vz. 35 crew in Lešany museum it sounds more like late WW2 panzer with issues with gearbox and setting itself on fire, the guys were kinda amazed the Germans kept them running from Poland, to France, to Yugoslavia and then through halfway of European part of Russia... If you ever happen to be in Czech rep, definitely visit museum in Lešany (about 40 minutes from Prague).

@davidbudka1298 4 года назад

I wouldn’t call the 38(t) underrated. I think it was a good light infantry tank, very similar to the U.S. M3 Stuart tank. Both are my favorites.

@TiberiusMaximus 3 года назад

If they didn't have the 38T they wouldn't have had many tanks for France or Russia at beginning. I think it was a decent stopgap for 39 40, 41

@zamoriansreign 3 года назад

I’m aware I’m a year late but is this a light tank?

@kevinvelado9907 2 года назад

The Germans classified it as a Medium tank. As it had the same armor thickness as their tanks at the time which were also classified as medium tanks. Of course comparing the 38(t), to other armored vehicles in Ww2. It is a light tank.

@PMMagro 5 лет назад

Majority and 2-9-23% is a bit strange. 23% is not majority by any means.

@markchip1 5 лет назад

The likely source of errors/confusion is not your choice of phrases but Joe Bloggs actual understanding of the actual meanings of words!

@doolittlegeorge 4 месяца назад

It wasn't well known because it wasn't a German Tank. As a *LIGHT* Tank very underrated and yes unknown to most of History mainly because Germany lost the War so its importance has been forgotten but even by today's standards very well put together as a mobile weapon system because it was very intuitive basic incredibly mobile and practical to actually work on instead of being an engineering masterpiece. By way of specific example climbing a vertical wall with said Tank was practicable. Even modern Tanks can't do that. Plus it was small for European Roads, fording Rivers, going around obstacles....very good Tank period but again as a *LIGHT* Tank. M3 Stuart was the only survivor of the War tho very true.

@marc9283 5 лет назад

Der Panzer 38(t) in Munster ist schon sehr beeindruckend. Einfach ein schönes Ausstellungsstück. Interessant wäre ein Einblick darin, wie sich der Panzer wirklich im Gefecht geschlagen hat, besonders im Vergleich zum Panzer III.

@mattiasfriis6950 5 месяцев назад

Otto Carius on the 38t: (as a green loader): "I was the loader and we were all bursting with pride when we received our Czechoslovakian Panzer 38t's. We felt practically invincible with our 37-mm cannon and two Czech machine guns. We were enthusiastic about the armor protection and didn't realize until later that it would only serve as moral protection for us. If necessary, it would stop small arms fire." And in comparison to the Pz. III: "The Panzer 38t roughly corresponded to the Pz III. Besides having a poorer quality of steel, it also had the disadvantage of only having four men in it. The tank commander had to observe and fire simultaneously"

@terraflow__bryanburdo4547 5 лет назад

I wonder if Erwin requested all those 38t's specially in '40...might have recognized the great tradeoff of speed v. armament/armor

@ctrlaltdebug 5 лет назад

Any tank that appears in Girls Und Panzer cannot be unknown!

@lewcrowley3710 Год назад

The 38(t) was used as an ersatz Panzer III. And it was not a good substitution. The Germans had a slow development, and initial production, of Panzer III. So, they reduced the amount of Panzers in the PD, and substituted 38(t) in the expanded PD. Generally, the 38(t) was not used in PD that also used Panzer III. It is easy to find the number of Panzer Types in the PD at the start of Barbarossa. FYI, In the period of June to December 1941, the Germans produced 401 of the 38t, and lost 796. They stopped production in early 1942.

@politicalFerret 5 лет назад

pissing of the audience with klugscheißerei. are you sure you are not from vienna? :D

@frankmueller2781 5 лет назад

I'm assuming that you are including the Pzkw35t as well.

@waffentobbe Год назад

I love the Panzer 38t so much that i am trying to build a airsoft version, or something that will look like it .

@madigorfkgoogle9349 Год назад

and that is why I said the most underrated was Pz.35t, and you are also wrong with your Poland and France statistics. The reason is for example the Pz.35t had the lowest loss rate to battle losses or even breakdowns (unlike German made Panzers). Also technically your statistics is also wrong in percentage, while the Pz.I and Pz.II are AFVs, they are NOT tanks, those are tankettes. So the Pz.35t accounted for almost 50% of German tank force in Poland! And even Pz.38t isnt statistically that bad as you picture it. It accounted for 13% of all German tanks in Poland at the start of operation. But I get it, more content...

@HSMiyamoto 5 лет назад

Most people can't identify ANY tanks. That's why the 1973 film "Patton", the movie was a hit, even though all the "German tanks" and "Allied tanks" were American-made post-1945 tanks. Likewise, in "Band of Brothers," despite all the fantastic uniforms and equipment, the "Tiger" tank is a mock-up built over a T-34 tank. That's just how it is.

@TisiphonesShadow Год назад

The 38t was an early-war tank whose contemporaries were the PzI, PzII, and PzIII (37mm-armed). It had superior armor and better reliability compared to all those, and the gun was on-par with the MkIII. It's wrong to try and compare it with later designs. And the 38t was present in France.

@riffbw Год назад

In this case I think underrated actually means underrepresented in the media world. The 38 (t) was easily the best tank the Germans had in Poland and to start the French campaign. It had great firepower and enough mobility to allow the Blitzkrieg style of combat. With the French relying on slower heavily armored tanks, the 38 (t) had the mobility to outflank them and could penetrate the heavy armor. Where it begins to feel underrated is how quickly other tanks surpassed and replaced it. With the deployment of PZ IIIs and IVs, the 38 (t) lost its role in German tank forces. Given that it had a short effective service life and began to struggle in 1941 against the sloped armor of T-34s it tends to fall off the radar. The big tank battles of WW2 were headlined by other more modern tanks. Still one of my favorites in war games dealing with early war German offensives because it's easily the best tank you can field. It's also a prime target when playing as the Allies because it's the one tank that can do more damage.

@drbichat 8 месяцев назад

Just because it was not used in large number in Poland or France, it does not mean it wasn't important. The German army needed to have a certain number of armored division and tanks to be able to start their territorial expansion against Poland and have protection in the West against the French. Having the more than 300 38(t) instantly gained from Czechoslovakia allowed them that. You also have to remember the 38(t) was a light tank, but was used as a medium tank, so it really exceeded all expectations. People constantly compare them with tanks 2 or 3 times larger and heavier

@benlaskowski357 3 года назад

What dummkopf would underrate this tank!? The original LT-H was armed with a 25mm Oerlikon cannon. That vehicle was also fast and agile. And this thing formed the backbone of the Panzerwaffe for the first couple of years of the war. 'Underrated'?? Gimme a break.

@georgedoolittle7574 4 года назад

"under-rated" because of the egineering was very primitive (riveted, total lack of sophistication, under-gunned). Why the numbers lie is "tank warfare" was entirely new and the Panzer 38-t had a very intuitive design was which the idea of "crewing" could be realized. Incredibly mobile, rugged and with the best track design and power to weight ratio of any tracked armoured vehicle in World War 2 it embodied the idea of "tank battle" perfectly... meaning as a weapon of manouver to secure critical points on a map and not a weapon meant to "slug it out" with other armour. Only the Sherman Tank was better relative to the time and space of "World War 2" this Platform was from 1939 to the Fall of 1941 DECISIVE in every battle. Definitely the most under-rated tank of World War 2 bar none.

@jankopransky2551 5 лет назад

Make a video about Panzer 38t! Pretty please!!!

@AndrewGraziani-k7d Месяц назад

Riveted armor, narrow tracks, and no radio? I feel confident in me rating pzk t38 as sh*t.

@JesterEric Год назад

The British Army tested a 38t prewar. Not impressed with the gun compared to the 2pdr and the cramped crew compartment. Not heavily armoured enough for an infantry rank and lacking the obstacle crossing ability needed for a cruiser rank.

@adrianknuchel5855 Месяц назад

The 38 t was in his weight the best and had near the same perfomance like the Pz 3 but was 10 t lighter.

@inwedavid6919 4 года назад

people tend to see world of tank as autentic, the PZ38 is reveted, as 1 inch of armor, a 37mm gun (and not a 47mm) 2 man only turret. not a bad tank but no march for a S35 or a matilda, can be pierce by anything in 1940 and worst after the war. Not a bad tank but it was outdated early in the war. The gun was not able to pierce anything in the French army, (max penetration 42mm at 100m) with normal shell, at least the APCR is good but it is not suficient to pierce French tan or UK tank at the distance these tank can pierce it. Worst with the Russian tank. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3,7cm_%C3%9AV_vz._38

@binaway 5 лет назад

For Want of a Nail (proverb) For want of a nail the shoe was lost. For want of a shoe the horse was lost. For want of a horse the rider was lost. For want of a rider the message was lost. For want of a message the battle was lost. For want of a battle the kingdom was lost. And all for the want of a horseshoe nail. For the want of 57-T38(t) in Poland, For the want of 228-T38(t) France. In both campaigns Germany was not flush with tanks so unimportant in Poland?

@saradolphin3242 2 года назад

That Chech Tank was Good at it's Time! And As a Conversion as a Tank Destroyer Was a Great Tank Destroyer for a Cheap Price on a Reliable Chassis!!!

@trekanbelluvitsh 2 года назад

I like this video because it is of general interest (and not just when it comes to tanks). What does "underrated" mean? What's not the meaning of "underrated"? Maybe it is a internet problem of making such lists. Don't get me wrong. Such lists are fun. But are they useful? Well, they can be if someone brings on interesting arguments. But perhaps a good way to handle this is to take it not too serious. And from a ill-fated construction something can be learned too. Even if it is "just": "If you send yiur men to battle in this tank you could have killed them yourself."