Why the political worldviews of young men and women are increasingly diverging | DW Analysis 

Men don't like toxic feminism, just as women don't like toxic masculinity. Equality is not the problem here, toxicity is.

Why is "Women getting more liberal" passively mentioned.. but "Men getting more conservative" is attributed to "radicalization"? lol

I can't help but notice that among all of the "experts" interviewed, not a single one is an actual Gen Z male. Maybe if you want to know what someone is thinking, you should actually talk to them.

Blaming man-fluencers for this crisis is like blaming the symptoms not the underlying diseases. They only make it worse, but they don't come to be in a vacuum

That Cambridge professor has no knowledge of the world. Saying young men aren't confronted with discomfort or fear for their personal safety is wild.

Men, for example in Poland have to work longer until they can receive pension than women, at the same time life expectancy of men is lower, how is that equal?

I can summarize the whole issue right here: The problem is that people keep thinking it's men versus women, boys versus girls, when in reality it's society versus apathy.

I do not think figures like Andrew Tate are positive for the world at all. But what people need to understand is HOW people like Tate gain so much popularity in the first place. And the reason is because men, especially younger men, do not feel heard or like their very real issues are taken seriously. Every time there is a discussion about men, it always feels like it gets commandeered into a discussion about women, politics, or is unproductively intended to tell men to "be better". When men try to argue that men's issues are real and worthy of discussion, it tends to be met with a lot of public shaming (especially paired with accusations of being an incel, angry virgin, etc). When you remove all possibility of outlets for men to deal with men's issues, you end up with unapologetic villains filling the vacuum. And the most frustrating part is that the people who caused and perpetuate this problem are not self-aware and don't seem to be willing to budge on this. Some of those people are in this video.

In Ukraine men are literally prohibited from leaving the country while woman are living their best lives in Europe

It’s because men issues are ignored by the media and the government. Look at the huge push for women to get into STEM fields but very little to no push for men to get into HELP fields.

I don't need a man or a woman to define for me what I should be. Women should... Men are supposed to... Women are... Men are... That's all BS. Find your own way.

Im a 31 yo man in Texas. I feel largely shielded from most of this, i feel like life is mostly good for me. My parents raised me to try hard and don't worry about what other people are doing. I am polite to women but i wouldn't let anyone walk all over me regardless of their gender. No one can stop me from being a good person, i just do what i think is right and look for people who respect that. In my experience everyone respects men who work hard and provide for people around them. That's my personal experience for what it's worth.

"Men care about their relative status towards other men" Right, and the reason they care about that is because women look at social status when selecting partners.

My high school in the early 2000s had multiple womens self help groups aimed at getting them through issues at school and home. Men tried to start one and it was forcibly disbanded by the school system....men have issues too.

Weird how shitting on one group and giving handouts to the other group causes a political divide...

If discussing men's problem is seen as problematic before even discussing what those problems are, then clearly there's a big problem.

I am 25 yo, I have to deal with everything ALONE. I cannot openly talk about my problems, I cannot say anything otherwise labelled as a loser.

Reading these comments disheartens me to hear how men struggle to be heard by women. As a woman myself, ive always made it clear to the men in my life that if they need someone to talk to or vent to im here to lend an ear. Its only been the past couple years a few of them started taking up that offer and while there are of course differences between any group, most of the time the problems and headaches they have are the same or similar issues i have gone through/am going through. We are all human, yes we are all different and have different problems due to it, but we all also have very similar issues and feelings. At the end of the day, we have more in common than not, and people tend to forget that. If you are a woman, hear out the men in your life. Everyone is just trying to get by and survive. And same vice versa.

These charts shown at the beginning clearly show the Women are becoming way more liberal than the men are becoming conservative (except South Korea) so why is the premise not the opposite...

Women are movin to the left, men are moving to the right. The video starts with "What's going on with boys". So automatic presumtion is the men are in the wrong? Are you really supprised why men are pissed?

To be fair about the not being able to fix a car thing: Cars today are deliberately overengineered so that the owner CANNOT fix them.

saying men that are angry and depressed because who they perceive ''as lower then them'' are being successful is down right psychotic

Being a male in their 20's, a lot of the comments on this video make good points one way or another. To me, it's not about men being upset about losing advantages. It's the constant reinforcement of lifting others up without feeling like there is any attention for your own issues (especially as a white male). I do see the irony in a white male feeling put down and marginalized. I am all for the empowerment of women and minorities, but it is difficult to have all of your own problems dismissed due to your identity. "You're a privileged white male, you don't have real problems, or they can't even hold a candle to ours". We do realize our adversity is different, but it feels entirely ignored, and we should be ashamed for even mentioning it.

"Show me the incentives, I'll show you the outcome" - famous investor said that, but it is true in this case, too.

Interviewing three liberals about why men are becoming more conservative

It's not men vs women. It's pure economics. Due constantly rising cost of living, men can no longer support their whole families and women are forced to enter the job market. Instead of pointing out the issue, it's being rebranded as something positive. And how many women choose to pick skilled blue collar career (like plumber, electrician etc)? Women simply don't want to do it, hence they pick higher education path. This ultimately leads to less and less time available for their partners / families. You would think that ANY available family time would be very precious and appreciated, but in reality it's being wasted on watching TV or our phones for this quick dopamine rush, where we're constantly bombarded with "promise of better life" ... and we all fall for it. All of this results in rapid, demographic decline. We're literally working ourselves to extinction. Look no further than Japan or South Korea. If, where you live, is not that bad, it soon will be.

You also forget about the demonization of men in the press, for instance in Argentina, a man wanted divorce then the woman accused him of rape, and the press labeled him a rapist, in all news papers headlines, then the cops finished the investigation and found a text from the exwife to her friend saying "I'm suing him to destroy him" and the police immediately had the proof it was a false accusation. No major news paper reported the reason he was liberated and she was put in jail for false accusations, only they said "They let the rapist go and put her in jail" then the feminists march to protest against the injustice and her family went during the night and light up his house burning him with 3rd degree burns all over his skin.

“There are just a few too many wagging fingers and not quite enough helping hands”

In Australia about 60% of university graduates are female. I found a site listing scholarships. Around 120 of these were available to only one gender. That gender was ALWAYS female.

No real empathy, no real desire for helping, just a fear of consequences and a desire to GAME men to avoid that.

If something's changed and "it's going on with boys" - how come women changed more according to all the graphs?

My first job in a school in 2000....I am the only male staff member in a school and young boys need positive male role models....24 years of no change...why do young men have no positive role models?

To me, it just feels like I live in a society that doesn't want me. Working hard and earning a lot is contributing to the wage gap. Approaching women romantically is at best annoying and at worst harassment. Going and getting a STEM degree is contributing to the engineering education gap. If I'm in a society that doesn't want me economically, romantically, or academically, what am I supposed to do? Obviously, being in this society makes me depressed. That's why I spend most of my time biking, hiking, and camping, just trying to put a little distance between me and society.

Writes book about men's issues. Gets interviewed with the question "When did you first start hating women?" How does it for you as a feminist make sense to say supporting men means hating women, when all you do is support women? It just screams "I hate men". Given how prevalent these aggressively dehumanizing statements about men at large are, It really feels to me at this point like women are intrinsically more valuable than men to the point that the same argument for one sex doesn't hold for the other no matter the circumstances. Just reading my last sentence again with 'men' and 'women' reversed instantly gives me an emotional response that makes it feel like women are oppressed victims and we need urgent changes, but keep the sentence as it is and in a day you'll have forgotten about it. Because nobody cares. But let me ask you, the feminist, a question: When did you first start hating men?

Great topic, but there is an issue with this video: I think it is really important - espacially when you talk about a topic as sensitive as this one - to base every argument on empirical evidence. From my perspective the experts is those videos talk a lot about what they see in their lives, or what they feel is the reason for something, but thats just anecdotal "evidence", so there is no real worth to those arguments/statements. I would love to see more data concerning those observations! Thanks for making those videos!

"Equality feels like a loss to the people who were unfairly ahead." That doesn't hold water, it's the youth who weren't alive during this unfairly ahead period that are most upset.

If men are falling behind most in skandinavian countries, why do we call these countries "equal".?

Nobody wants to participate in the activity where you are held accountable for everything, while the only thing expected from another party is to voice their goals and make the decisions, that will be implemented by you. This IS a zero-sum game, ackhually.

At the end of the day, men want to be strong so they can be useful. Whether that's physical strength, financial strength, emotional strength, etc. I think the (or at least one) major issue is that strength and masculinity are inexorably linked together, and we have been admonishing men for desiring personal strength, and then shaming them for not being masculine. A common sentiment that seems to come along with recent gender equality movements is that men should be less masculine; that we shouldn't want, or need, strength unless it also empowers women. This has led to men being reprimanded, labelled as toxic, and called bigots or misogynists for pursuing virtually any type of personal strength. The unilateral thinking that women's strength can only come with men's loss is damaging and inaccurate, but it comes from a place where that feels very true. It feels like men aren't allowed to be strong anymore because we're being told that men shouldn't be masculine anymore. And then we're shown that being a weak man is not desirable or useful; men are expected to jump in and protect people when something dangerous happens. Men are supposed to provide for their family. The men that are most idolized by both men and women are the truly masculine men: capable fathers, strong role models, unbreakable pillars of strength and support. We want to be useful. We want to be appreciated. We want to give something of value to the world. The issue is, we're being told one thing and shown another. We're told not to be masculine, and then shown that masculine men are more valued than us. That's why we feel worthless.

"How do we close the gap?" "Men need to feel less comfortable" bruh

There was a case here in Bulgaria just a couple months ago, where a young father in his 30s has been fighting in the courts to be allowed to see his kids. Not to take custody, but simply actually see the children - no restraining order or past transgressions, just his wife unilaterally deciding to kick him out and not allow him to do so anymore. His wife and her mother lured him to meet, and together strangled him in his own car. Little did they know that was right in view of some CCTVs... Then they drove off with his corpse and reportedly tried to burn it in the woods. And guess what? The court promptly ruled that the killer should be put on house arrest only, reasoning that she is a woman and should be allowed to stay with her kids. Only after some public outcry were the children temporarily taken to their father's parents, and the killers put into actual jail. Although now the court is about to let them go under house arrest again, as they are complaining about bedbugs in their cells. And this is happening in a small Eastern European country, a place that is generally viewed as "extremely backwards, conservative and patriarchal".

It's getting more and more Common for men to become victims to misandry. To feel concerned for their emotional safety because their problems are ignored and they are made to feel responsible for things they have basically No impact on.

The education section is so silly. You don't think that maybe the reason most men are behind in education has something to do with women getting preferential treatment in all modern education systems?

It's simple. Men are flowing towards movements that value and respect them and take their issues seriously. The same reason young women have been flowing towards liberalism as these movements started getting more female focused than ever.

The problem with masculinity is that changes are not happening at the same rate across all aspects. Men are still expected to provide for their families even if it is no longer possible for them to do so. Women tend to still prefer men of higher social status than them. Men still pay for dates, even if they make less. Men still are the ones who tend to lose custody of their kids in divorce court. You want to be a stay at home dad? Sure it's possible now but the vast majority of families do not want that. It seems like the modern family is just 2 working parents who use their income to send their kids to daycare so they can keep working.

Summary of video is rich political elites telling young destitute men they're privileged and just to get over it.

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I dont like that Alice Evans basicly reduces mens problems to their intersexual relationship to women and their fear in not being able to compete in the race for one. Because i as a gay person still feel and see these problems. The problems men have today is that while men who see women as inferior cant say that, women who do the same with men can freely spread their opinions. For example, there was a young woman in my class (it was 11th the grade), and this women always trash talked men and on principle closed the door right infront of us boys when leaving class and so on and no teacher ever said anything against it since its treated like a crime for a man to openly feel disadvantaged because of their gender. Another problem is, that while boys mature indeed later, they are also way more active and need this activity. We see less and less sports in school. I myself had many long days in school but never, literally NEVER more then 1x2h + 1x1h and later only 1x2h of sports per week while sitting for 7-8 hours on my butt daily... I was definitely not too dumb for school but i remember fairly well that after hour 4 or 5 (depending on the subjects) there was no mental energy left in me to concentrate while most female students did just fine. There needs to be a systematic change in schools to give especially boys more time and to encourage them more to participate in physical activities. Another thing that needs to change is the social perception that men arent allowed to openly feel weak, sad or left behind. There is indeed a HUGE gender gap in favor of women. The only two reasons why you cant see it yet in terms of average wages are that first, it will take another one or two generations to replace men from their top positions and second, women are more likely to prefer jobs that take empathy and are more human related which are at the same time also the jobs with some of the lowest wages. It is indeed a systematic problem and it needs to be solved before we lost another and another generation of boys to it.

This is like rich people saying to poor people; stop being poor. Neil Shyminsky is one of those sociopaths who profit from this hurdle.

29:23 this dude clearly lived a privileged life (as have I), and never had to deal with military conscription, not being able to see your kids because courts give parental rights to the mothers by default... the difference is I have met those people. the difference is I can think about the struggles of both women and men.

why are we talking about men, when the graph shows that they're about as conservative as they were in the 90's and not how women are becoming extremely radical?

When Ms Evans was referring to "the crisis of masculinity" she alleges that men view women as a lower status so if they are unemployed or don't have a nice house and get rejected, THAT is why... Because they view women as lower status. I think that's condescending bollocks! The problem is literally in what she said: First off, "their advances"... First problem is guys are always expected to have to make the first move, its stressful, puts us in an exposed position and NOBODY ever asks US out in return. Secondly, she's already characterising them as low status because of their employment status or because of their house etc. In relationships, women judge men on these things, but women don't typically get judged in return. If women insist on tieing men's worth to things like their jobs, is it any wonder that there is friction when men are struggling to get ahead? Men don't look down on women because of their jobs, but she is literally proving the point that women absolutely do that to men.

I don't agree when they say that "boys should cry", because if we do they ignore us. When I was in third/forth grade my mother had health issues and I believed she would die. I was in the playground in a corner crying all the time and isolated and panicking about it, and guess what, not ONE worker or teacher in the school asked if everything was fine and tried to help me calm down. A few months later, my teacher found my mother and asked if everything was fine with her and pressured her to talk about the illness. In other words, she was more worried about gossipping the illness than taking care of one of her students when he was clearly suffering. I was also victim of bullying some time later and again, most people just disregarded it as "kids being kids" and I was exagerating. So when they say "boys should cry", I add "others should care" ,it works both ways.

In my n0eighborhood you can find a park bench on which "Take place against violence... against women and girls" Why the second part? Why not just the first part? That´s a perfect example, what the problem is with the modern feminism. It divides and makes men to citizen of second class whos issues are not as important as the women´s problems...

As a highschool teacher i can say that one of the biggest issues is that boys struggle more to emotionally regulate and CRUMBLE when it comes to frustration. I dont mean that to be mean, its genuine. The moment of confrontation with something that takes concentration causes them too much panic or shame and they refuse to do it and make it seem like they dont want to do it. A lot of my job is helping people face frustration to be able to do the process.

"bridge the divide" "enter new spaces" Yeah thanks mate, that will sort everything out.

0:20 what even are those graphs. Let's look at them for a second. In the US, Gen Z men seem to barely reach centrism, still slightly lib leaning, while women are having an exponential drift upwards (left politically). Germany is pretty much the same. Men have barely crossed the center line while women are flying off the chart. And UK? Men are actually getting more liberal, only not as insanely fast as women. The only graph supporting the "men are going far right" argument is the South Korea one, where the societal norms are way different than in Europe and US.

I was wondering why the comment section was so conservative, but then realized there are no women on the internet.

I'm 36 now and I've been talking about these issues half my life. And not just me, others as well. Politics and media did everything to ignore and to ridicule us. They don't want to help. They want us destroyed. That's what they've been working towards, with some success. Older, successful men - like the professor for instance - have been complicit in this. Because it actually helped them retain their intra-sex status. It kept their competition at bay. Also, I'm puzzled that this is portrayed only as a men's issue. When you look at how the political gap open between men and women, it's not just about the men. In fact, young women are far more radicalized to the left than men are to the right.

29:25 patriarchy, but women get all the scholarships and all the affirmative actions. Sure mr expert

I'm a young adult man from Finland and completely on the side of empowerment of women. I was told throughout my time in school that I was privileged, while surrounded by support, empowerment and help groups for women and told the world is ruled by men and I as a man was part of the problem. I think the issue for young men is we are made to answer for the sins of earlier generations of men. And absolutely nobody talks to or helps young men growing up. Finland also has conscription and male suicides dominate suicide statistics.

"young men feel entitled to feeling comfortable and save" bro everyone is entitled to that

The problem, as Alice Evans demonstrates in the video is that it has become mainstream to stereotype men. And men, especially young liberal men to whom those outdated stereotypes don't apply at all, are pushing back.

I just went to lunch with my ex girlfriend a few days ago and we had to bow out of a buffet when I found out it was $18 apiece and go somewhere else. She says, "Are you on a budget or something?" And yes I definitely am. But the tone of disgust in her voice was unmistakeable. Its weird how men, especially white men are expected to simply be loaded and free with their money, but at the same time we want to make sure everyone in society gets boosted over them, and celebrate whenever that happens. Sucks for some of us!

This liberal guy just blames men in the "solutions" section lmao. "Men need to enter spaces to have more empathy for other people.."

There's always a gap between men and women. Just ask people about conscription, divorce, abortion, child support, and discrimination.

Where can we find the graphs at the start of the video?

Sexism is bad for all. As bad for men as for women. The men and women against equality will tell you otherwise and try to avoid the elephant in the room, sexism, by going into semantics, e.g., feminism is extreme.

"Men are no longer the main bread winner." True. But we are still judged by that ability. What's the first question asked after a woman mentions a new man in her life? "What does he do?" In other words, how much money does he make? Men are keenly aware that their ability to find a mate is linked to their income. It's a patriarchal attitude, and yet it is perpetuated as much or more by women then men. Is it any wonder a pay gap exists, when men are under so much more pressure to earn?

This is so ham-handedly edited it is impossible to not to notice that this isn't an interview , or a conversation , but a constructed narrative . I can't even focus on the intended message .

24:00 How she found Mentzen (a successful Polish entrepreneur) promoting a zero sum mentality is beyond me. He is one of those promoting win-win solutions which is exactly opposite of zero sum mentality.

The last scholar is going on the assumption that liberalization is inherently good. I think some of us are starting to question that premise.

I like how their solutions are to appear to care about problems that men face rather than making the living conditions any better for men.

I once attended a women empowerment event within tech. I was one out of 4 men and there were around 80+ women. Somebody asked why are these events mostly attended only be women and not men? I anonymously replied saying: read the title "Girls in Tech". Then followed up with: men typically arent given a voice in these events. If they speak up, they'll be dismissed or accused of being sexist even if they aren't. There's no basis of discussion. So they don't even bother. The look of anger and confusion by the hosts for saying the most obvious answer was hilarious. I'm convinced they were angry especially because I was anonymous

I’m 26yo white male from a middle class upbringing. From my point of view, I don’t fit anyone’s “progressive” agenda. Despite that, I’m living very poorly month to month trying to advance myself in my own free time when I don’t work full time. I feel like I have to work much harder than other people because there are only so many “white guy” positions available at any given company while they are still understaffed or have people that are underperforming regularly. We all see it. It’s not about having the right identity doing the job. It’s about having the person most qualified to do the job. Not all white guys are “rich/high status” as these talking points would suggest. Even in our president’s own speech in which he says “the white upper/middle class”. I feel like a victim of politics in a world were I was supposed to be able to work hard and get ahead for doing a good job. Now it’s only about making sure certain race/gender land certain jobs. Absolutely ridiculous and I think educational institutions should be ashamed and realllllly think about how their “solutions” to non problems affect people.

@32:05 "Frankly, it's never too early to start teaching feminism to children." God help us.

In my opinion, Richard Reeves was the most reasonable guest of the three.

The young men see liberal content creators laughing at male suicide rates, depression, and so on. They see them claiming “you run the world, you don’t get to be depressed” while they struggle to make ends meet and the content creator is living in luxury. They see women on the left screaming that all men are horrible. They see liberal women shouting at rallies, telling men “you have to get fixed to date me” and say “I’m not dealing with that”. Young men, especially straight men, are being FORCED out of the liberal camp, and you know it. It isn’t the appeal of conservatism, it’s the repulsion of liberalism.

I think men also are struggling with companies/governments hiring or prioritizing women being hired just to meet a quota vs actually hiring based on skills/education.

Women have already achieved equality in the sense that they have the same opportunity to do anything men do. The fact that there aren't as many female engineers is not necessarily a problem that needs to be fixed. It could be, and studies back this up, that Women on average just tend to prefer different types of jobs. Notice how no-one ever points out how it's an injustice that teaching, human resources, cosmetology, and nursing are fields totally dominated by women.

Here in America there was a boy that was "gR@ped" by an adult woman, and she found him after he turn 18, and sued him for back child support. She was never punished for what she did to a child.

For all of us, everything always comes down to economic security.

Privileges are only privilege if it help you become successful. If it doesn't, it didn't work as one and shouldn't be considered as such. Men who end up homeless are not privilege to be men, men who earn less than the average woman are not privilege to be mens, this represent a huge portion of the population (about 1/3 of all men) this simple laps of judgement from the woke left is enough to explain most of the backlash. By projecting statistic on to individuals we become prejudiced. This is what social justice spectacularly failed to grasp.

Less education successes, while being more willing to be critical of the majority, is what drives men into the hands of populistic leaders. It's really not that hard to understand.

Another problem that may not be centered around the whole gender-topic outright, but still is very influential and important to everyoney are social media echochambers. We need to ENFORCE dislikes back to youtube. We need to allow negative feedback to exist on the internet and we need to emphasize Pluralism of Opinions. These echochambers do not only radicalize many people, they also spread outright lies for political agendas. This is in my humble opinion one of; if not the most important issue of our time, for every current generation.

Because when you are 20 years old broke student hearing about some mystical privileges and insults because of patriarchy is a bit frustrating. You endlessly tell young men that they are the problem and then you are surprised that those men go opposite direction to you?

I am 47 and a gay male and I have pondered many times on the topic of masculinity vs femininity. I grew up on a farm in a religious community with very defined roles for men and women. I got married to a woman, had 3 daughters and a son then came out at 35 years old. People have found it interesting that I have a gift for fixing things such as cars or I can build you a house or chop down a tree but I also play the piano and have a gift for decorating and clothing style and I am a very nurturing parent. Who determines which of these characteristics are feminine and which are masculine traits? I have come to realize that we all have feminine and masculine traits and I have finally embraced them both within myself. I have come to find it very beautiful and very powerful. I think there is a lack of both women and men who embrace both the feminine and masculine energy (however those are defined) within themselves to become their true authentic selves without the worry of what societal norms have historically been.

Take 3 generations. Generation X, Millennial and Generation Z. Look at the development of female empowerment and the role of women in society across those three generations. Generation X entered the workforce in the late 80s early 90s. They entered the workforce at a time when a woman's role was secretary. Most industries were heavily male dominated and women were relegated to supportive roles (receptionists, secretaries, administration, PAs) or were given care roles (teachers, nurses, or the majority that were stay at home mums, at least that was the expectation). A few women took on the sexism head first. They fought their way through the corporate structures and as they did, attitudes inevitably changed. It was no longer just the power suit wearing bossy women that were able to have corporate jobs. By the time the 2000s and 2010s came around and Millenials entered the workforce, women were starting to represent significant minorities in corporate structures. Millennials entered the workforce at a time when the Gen X pioneers were at the height of their power. The women that had taken on the sexist establishment were busy deconstructing it, and millennial women entering the workforce still had to deal with the dying embers of ingrained sexism. Women were now more able to access careers in the city. Law, Accountancy, Marketing, Management, Sales. However there were a few high paying industries that were still dominated by men, and the majority of women still did caring jobs like teachers and nurses (although doctors were now also becoming more even across men and women). There were also industries that women just didn't seem interested in. Construction, farming, manufacturing (smelting and fabrication), mining, fishing etc. Women were starting to win the battle for the office, but there was no movement on the Primary and Secondary industry front. The when Gen Z enter the workforce in 2020 and beyond. The battle has been all but won in the offices. Every major corporation has women in the executive office. HR policy is written by women for women to get women into roles that have been historically too remote for them. Bursaries and fast track programs are in place to get women into the few industries that haven't reached peak gender equality. Gen Z women are earning more than Gen Z men, graduating from university in greater numbers than Gen Z men, and occupy more senior positions in businesses than Gen Z men. Oh wait, that's not equality. The feminist movement have overshot a bit. Not to the extent that Gen Z men are experiencing the reality of life as a Gen X woman. But for this inequality to stem from a desire for equality cuts deep. We say things like "maybe we shouldn't have these fast track programs, it seems unfair to give women benefits that aren't available to men" and "prehaps having bursaries for the gender that is graduating in higher numbers isn't the big win for equality you think it is" and "It's great that for international women's day we are showcasing the work of the companies high achieving women, but it would be great if I got some recognition for my work on International men's day considering I was equally as instrumental in getting the project completed as she was" and we are labelled as misogynists that hate women and don't want equality. We want equality, but what we have is not equal opportunities, women have far more opportunities than men due to the aforementioned bursaries and the support networks and the education system being designed by women for women and then all the teachers being women. Men are being systemically failed by the education system. We don't even have equality of outcome, due to the aforementioned gender pay gap with Gen Z women out earning Gen Z men, and getting access to higher paid and higher ranked positions quicker than Gen Z men. What we have is pure unadulterated inequality, in the name of equality. I don't think anyone can justify that! TL:DR historical injustice does justify current and future injustice. The women most vocal about sexism never experienced it, and the men being punished for it, never contributed to it.

I see all the wonderful examples in the comments and I want to raise mine : In France, bunch of new laws were passed to enforce parity in public positions. The city of Sarcelles had its municipal elections cancelled because the ballots had too many women. Of course, a lot of people cried misogyny and "applying the letter of the law instead of its spirit" The city of Paris was hit with a 90 thousand euros fine for having 69% of women as directors, a long way from the 40% parity requirement (=40-60% range for each gender). Everyone cried misogyny again, and the minister for gender equality (yes, it's a real thing) cancelled the fine. The mayor then said that, since the fine was not owed anymore, she'd give those 90k to... a women's rights group. Rules for thee, not for me.

There's often an unspoken expectation that a man's worth is closely tied to his finances, especially in the eyes of the opposite sex. This can add an extra layer of complexity to dating and relationships in these modern times when many women are making as much as men. Many women still hold onto the traditional belief that a man should out-earn them to be considered valuable and worthwhile pursuits as potential partners, and many believe that men should still take up much of the financial responsibility in dating and the relationship. Now, you have to be a high earner as a man to, well, be a real man.

I can't take that professor from Cambrian college seriously. He has the audacity to say that men can walk through the world without fear of danger while women constantly worry about their physical safety?! This is gaslighting plain and simple. The fear of possible danger is why men are far more likely to take up combat sports or carry firearms. 80% of murder victims are men, NOT women! Men are socially inculcated to live a life of deference to the fears and needs of women while it is THEIR fears and needs that go neglected.

I would argue that the way the schooling system is designed it advantages women. Remeber the teacher, sit still and pay attention, when boys typically want to run and are more physical than women. When it comes to relationships, in or parents time, men had the salary and thus had something to offer women. Now women work and have a salary, so the men they want need to have higher status than before. So just having job has lost its value for men.

A big part is the assumption that everyone should go to university, which is demoralizing in many ways. For many people, men and women, it just doesn't fit, and at 18yo it's too early to decide anyway. It costs a lot of money, puts people in debt and if there's no job at the end it kills your self confidence. Trades and other pathways to a job should be seen as excellent choice, a degree can always come later. Having a trade, the ability to build, create and actually do stuff is far more valuable degree. Governments around the world need to put in place policies (not just words) that put trades on equal or better footing as a degree

Descrimination against men is not gender equility.

In Spain there are a lot of universities that provide Master Degree scholarships and the point rating system to select the candidates have a special bonus points only for being a woman. The custody of the kids in case of divorce is massively in favor of women and for commiting the exact crime (example: assesination) the prision years for men are double in their case that if it was a woman. Not even mentioning the discrepancies in pensions and paid unemployment are higher for women, as well as "parity requirements" for jobs or educational degrees. Feminisim and equality are a long way from being synonyms.

The cheapest and worst dorm of my college campus was male only, until the university shut it down and made it coed. But there's still plenty of women-only dorms on campus

Invest in young men or society will crumble

It's hard seeing so many other guys talk about how bad they're doing, and feeling like the only way they can be honest is with strangers on the internet. I wish I had more guy friends who I could be more myself (I've always been emotional & sensitive) around.

I do want to ask why we never focus on the way that feminism created a toxic female culture. Its like we can only wag our fingers at men, but it is considered taboo to hold women accountable to the same standard that we hold men.

Media and social media. Elites thrive on a polarised society