Like the gift that keeps on giving the rings of power is back as guyladriel continues her quest to be the most unlikeable character ever. So follow me as I compare her mission to Eregion to Aragorn's journey to Rivendale
Oh, but there is so much worse than this. "The Fellowship of the King" by 'Demetrious Polychron' is so bad it cannot even manage unintentional comedy. You have not read what I have read.
I saw a comment from a ROP defender who said we shouldn’t expect ROP to be as good as the Jackson films and my response is why shouldn’t we? It’s easy to forget but Peter Jackson and the cast and crew worked incredibly hard to make those movies what they were. Technology wasn’t as sophisticated as it is now and yet they came up with all these creative techniques, bigatures, props etc. to make Middle Earth real. When paired with stellar writing, the rest was history. Yet this sad sack of a series can’t even bother to properly light a nighttime scene yet alone have any depth with its characters. Seriously, it’s insulting this series cost so much and is handled to two showrunners to make Dan and Dave from Game of Thrones look better. At least those two could adapt material decently.
Because Jackson's LotR was lightning in a bottle, as the saying goes. All the ingredients came together, often by accident, to produce this masterwork. Even Jackson could not duplicate the feat in the Hobbit films-not even close. Few people expected TRoP to be anywhere near as good as Jackson's films. But even those with reduced expectations have been sorely disappointed for the most part.
I didn't expect Rings of Power to be as good as Peter Jackson's LoTR trilogy but I also wasn't expecting "dark" elves with modern "from the hood" hair-cuts.
"You shouldn't wait for it to be as good as one of the films" He just straight up implied that they can't make something half as good with more money than the WHOLE TRILOGY in ONE FUCKING SEASON Edit: Also, isn't like we waited that much, we just waited for them have any MINIMAL CAPABILITY AND BE MID, respecting the OWN RULES AND FONTS
The best part about the _Lord of the Rings_ scene is that in the book, Arwen wasn’t in it at all. Instead, it’s a male elf named Glorfindel. Despite that, Peter Jackson & co. found a way to introduce Arwen earlier in the story, in a way that felt organic and didn’t detract from any of the other characters. I doubt Tolkien would have approved, but it’s a far better adaptational choice than anything the _Rings of Power_ idiots are capable of.
Sigh. PJ used Arwen literally at the detriment of Frodo. In the book at the Ford of Bruinen Frodo defied the Nine, refusing their summons: the fact that he was able to defy them on his own, while being severely injured for two weeks, showed his resilience. Jackson's Frodo however is near-unconscious and worthless, and his Arwen says a stupid one-liner.
@@reek4062in the movie isnt it stated that It has been days since Frodo was stabbed when Arwen arrives? If my memory is true then that solidifies his resilience to the wound. Showing the passage of time when adapting words to a screen is incredibly difficult, and PJ did an extremely good job at it throughout the series. When you looks at RoP, the passage of time is shown very poorly
@@Dayman98 Some people really don't understand the difference one various types of storytelling methods. That's why most people are complaining about Arwen saving Frodo.
May I also say, as a horseback rider, the DIFFICULTY of riding like that when trying to save Frodo, means they went to the difficulty of hiring an expert double.
In Lord of the rings, Galadriel didnt need armour or to act like a toxic man. She was feminine and just her presence was so powerful the entire fellowship, 11 grown men,were quiet and bowed their heads down. She didnt need to start naming her titles or punch holes into a wall or be condescending jerk. A very feminine female character was the most powerful character in the movie. If thats patriarchal to woke people, then they must be crazy. Btw. Thank you for another video. I love these comparisions.
Cate Blanchett's portrayal perfectly captures the kind of woman who leaves men speechless and fumbling when she enters a room. All men know that feeling, and it's one of respect and admiration. Men are, however, absolutely incapable of taking seriously a woman like this iteration of Galadriel by the actress whose name I frankly couldn't care enough about to look up.
In the Lord of The Rings movies Galadriel is the most powerful being on Middle Earth, she can project her power at great distance, unlike the limited AoE wizard Gandalf.
Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy what has been invented or made by the forces of good. -J.R.R. tolkien edit: i know this is not actual tolkien qoute sorry.
These side by sides really show just how lacking the Amazon fan fiction really is. There was so much love and detail that went into the movie trilogy to where it never feels like you're watching a movie. Where as in Jeff Bozo's Money Pit everything just has this layer of cheapness and disinterest to it. The designs of the world and the characters look like they were made by a group of larpers on a shoe string budget but the character are portrayed without the passion a dedicated larper would give it.
If you think Tolkien would turn in his grave over TROP, you have to also admit he would do the same for the Peter Jackson's LOTR's trilogy. For some reason people are just on a mission to tear the show to threads.
It is funny because anytime I see posts anywhere online pointing out the terrible writing of The Rings of Power; the goblins that defend ROP come scurrying along and say "well, the Lord of the Rings films did not completely follow the books and you love them, don't you?" as if that somehow doesn't point out to the fact that if LoTR was badly written, people would dislike that also 😂
The fact is that Peter Jackson adapted 95% of the source material and made up about 5% of the movies to make them 'work' (No book can be adapted perfectly faithfully for a ton of reasons) Amazon adapted 5% of the source material (the names, the ... rings.... Orcs I guesss) and made up 95% of the rest. But not only that. What they made up is garbage and written like shit. They have like 1/20th of the audience Got had.
@@Stephen64138 It's not just that they made up most of it. It's that what they made up completely destroys fcking everything about the world building and the existing characters, and makes a mockery of Tolkien's work
Dude nothing about the rings of power show has any fucking weight to it. It's all hollow and vapid. Not a single scene has any narrative theme or overarching emotions it's just so flat with scenes happening
It was always a bad idea to take an otherworldly and mysteriously powerful character like this and dump her into the muck, remove the magic, and make her a stone-faced swashbuckler. They would've been much wiser to reserve her the way she was in the books and Peter Jackson movies, and maybe utilize her in specific moments, like creating a mist to hide an army or show up to magically send something like the proto-Ringwraiths packing.
Love the scene comparisons - I rewatch them in fact. Whether intended this way or not I find them an excellent way to learn, seeing a good example against a bad. The structure of presentation into analysis helps too. I can even see a hoodie / t-shirt / mug in the future: "But why is it well written?" I don't know, maybe :)
I find it hilarious that the writers of rings of power try so hard to diminish every male character and make their galadrrrrrrriel a girlboss slay queen and in doing so strip her of maybe her greatest achievement in the lore only to give that very same achievement to elrond, a man. In the lore Galadriel was the only one that Sauron could never deceive. In rings of power galadrrrrriel is the first one to be deceived by sauron.
I never watched past episode 1 of season 1. How Galadriel was portrayed was just too terrible for me. I only seen reviews and criticisms to see if it improved. Nope. After some thought, I think I figured a good way to describe Galadriel in Rings of Power. Orc-like. She lets her friends get beaten, she fights and threatens allies, she asserts her position with screaming and yelling. She’s like an orc chieftain, nothing like a true leader as Tolkien writes. Actually, does anyone willingly follow her, like 100% have her back? First scene is her soldier’s mutinying, after she let the troll beat them bloody.
That may be so, that Frodo was "useless" in this scene and that Glorfindel was actually here instead of Arwen... ...but you gotta remember Peter Jackson and co. saw the whole script and the whole three movies by their timeline and constraints. I think this was a good choice despite it because it ties everything together throughout the movie series. THE MOVIE SERIES. It's more than just "oh, this needs to be truthful to the books". It's about the whole picture that Jackson and co. saw and had to make work in the favor of the limits and restraints of a MOVIE. I truly understand why, as a book fan myself, why the movies aren't 100% truthful. Imagine if it had been a TV series; can you imagine how AMAZING it would have been in Jackson and co.'s hands back then?? RoP, however, is NOT a movie series. It's a TV series. It is atrocious, ugly, asinine, and insulting as not only a TV show, an adaptation, and as anything remotely related to Tolkien's work, but it made changes that don't make sense throughout its runtime-and let's not even talk about their own lil' fanfic world, the creators' obscene hubris, or the things that pull you out of Arda. It's just....you literally cannot compare the two, LOTR and RoP, when they are two different mediums, for one, made for two different reasons, for two (one being an as-faithful-as-POSSIBLE-considering-the-challenges adaptation and the other being a soulless, nonsensical "DEI" cash grab), and have two completely different mentalities in their make. I really do get why diehard Tolkien fans may (not always) be disappointed in anything Tolkien that's been adapted in the past 40, 50 years because none of them are truly faithful, including the LOTR movies. But there's a difference, I think, between "being faithful scene-for-scene", which is nearly impossible (especially, again, as a movie) and carrying the FEEL of faithfulness, as is what Jackson and co. did. Spiritual faithfulness, so to speak. My favorite book of the trilogy is Two Towers, so I was anxious when the movie came out. But I was blown away by how incredibly moving and true the story, the world, the acting, the sounds, the music, the sets, the FEEL of it all was. It FELT like something Tolkien may have approved of despite everything that was different. It FELT like I was in a new world. It FELT like it was, and was documented TO have been, made with love and care. Sacrifices had to be made, but they managed it and captured it beautifully. Epicly. Sincerely. And timelessly! Rings of Power?? The FUCK outta here. It feels soulless, even down the music and sounds! Listen to the Balrog for instance. One sounds like a furnace, a monster furnace come to life, and the other sounds like...a generic monster roar. Bleh. No imagination. No innovation. Newbie 15-year-old writers can make a better fanfic and be more truthful than this POS. I'm tired of people not understanding, even after all this time, why TLOTR works and RoP doesn't. Gotta remember, first and foremost, they are two different mediums with different constraints. Sheesh. Get over yourselves, die-hards. You're embarrassing us. 😔 Thank you for this amazing video, Jedi!! I agree 1000000% percent.
I also compared this scene with another one in LOTR, when thinking about choices and consequences for the plot. In LOTR Gandalf is fearful of going through Moria and advices against it. Getting there, they are confronted by the Balrog, and Gandalf's fear is confirmed. Gandalf was fearing something truly terrible, something the Fellowship could not fight, and he sacrifices himself to save the team, and they flee. So going through Moria had a real and IMPACTFUL consequence. In ROP, when Elrond and Galadriel are going to Eregion, they find that broke bridge. Galadriel advices against going through the south path. Elrond chooses it anyway, since he doent the trust the ring. Getting there, they are confronted by the Undead, and Galadriel's fear is confirmed. But are they truly terrible? Can't they face it? At first it seems like it. They are unkillable. So what is gonna happen? Will everyone but Elrond and Galadriel die? Will Elrond or Galadriel be mortally wounded? Will this make Elrond rethink about his thrust in Galadriel, as she was right this time? So what happens is thar one undead kills one of the elves. Then 20 undead appear. The elves cant kill them, but then Elrond recalls a way to do it, and then they just destroy all the undead one by one. And it seemed really easy. And the big consequence is that one of the elite elves died. Might seem like a big deal, but is not impactful at all. The audience doesnt even know the elf's name, he was just introduced, how can we care? Not even his teamates seemed to care all. And the whole situation was so easily solved after that, i wonder if it really was that much of a trouble going that path Galadriel adviced against.
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We have Arwen and Eowyn both taking up swords and stand up against the wraiths in LotR. We have the glorious "I am no man" line from Eowyn. While LotR is mainly focused on male characters, it says a lot when the women in the story appear way more badass, strong, yet relatable than young Galadriel. There's so many great examples of badass women in fiction. Ripley comes to mind, among others. How is that modern writers nowadays get this so wrong? I love masculine and strong women in fiction, but any character (man or woman) with stupid overpowered plot armour becomes boring to watch.
Even though the Weathertop/Arwen at the river scenes were outside the canon/lore, they did well to adapt the story to screen. Introducing Glorfindel as well as Tom Bombadil would’ve complicated the films. The tv show not only needlessly fills out the cast but adds more non-canonical characters and non-canonical and mostly unpleasant additional characteristics of existing characters. In the end none of the main characters are likable and there are too many of them. The show feels like a giant frat/sorority party that the audience feels like we’re the only ones not invited.
No they didn't. Frodo is butchered at Weathertop and the Ford of Bruinen; he's stripped off his courage, resilience and inner strength. Of course, Peter Jackson had contempt for Tolkien's story and characters. The Hobbits couldn't be the heroes, so he degraded the Hobbits, Frodo in particular, in favour of Aragorn (who he also butchered).
@@reek4062 Bro, if you are so convicted, then answer why PJ cutted off Sauron in the final fight and substituted him by an ogre when all was already filmed?
I was so excited when I got your new video notification! I love your comparisons because you really pick some great scenes highlight how the themes, characters, relationships etc. make them so wonderful. Your scene breakdowns are succinct and to the point. 👌 If I still took Film Studies I'd totally share your channel with my old professor so we can watch your videos in class. 😂 Hope you've been well Jedi Brooks! 🌞
Tolkien's masterpiece will never be matched or surpassed especially not by Amazon for his legacy is protected by the massive fandom that he and his son(Christopher) inherited.
This was a great video like always! The way you speak and present your analysis is really unique which makes me wonder why your channel doesn’t have way more subscribers. Also, could you maybe make a Video to John wick?
If the creators/scriptwiters/producers wants viewers believing that guyladriel is so powerful, then the whole premise of the fellowship of the ring is pointless. She could have easily gone into war through the trilogy, waging war against the orcs and goblins in each and every conflict. The flaming eye dude has no response to her unilateral strength and powers
The guy getting randomly one shot by an arrow as his team of crack warriors turns away from him to look is fucking hilarious. The elves were so one with the forest that they could seemingly appear from midair in LotR. Yet here they cant hear or see a rowdy hunting party, until one of them gets accidentally shot? Seems Bezos Bucks cant buy good writing.
They could have been better if they stuck with Celebrimbor and Annatar being the primary focus instead of Galadriel. I mean from the very beginning and not season 2. Halbrand should not have existed as a Sauron disguise. Really, they would have been better off following the canon in the Unfinished Tales/Silmarillion. It’s more heartbreaking though. :/
There's multiple times in the trilogy where the extras in the background are just waving their arms to look like they're doing something, but it's never obvious. It's insane how obvious it is when amazons extras just stand there never doing anything.
Much respect for actually watching Rings of power. Incredibly boring and mundane, no respect for any characters with no team work, plot armour, poorly written, a pathetic Gandalf Saruman Sam and Frodo and not to mention its pitch black for like every action shot. I struggled to watch ep 1 and wont bother watching the rest.
We are now 14 episodes into the series--- that is over 14 effing hours of content. Think about that...The entire LOTR extended series is less than 12 hours long, and think about the magnificent journey that unfolds in that time, for dozens of characters. It is criminal how wasteful the screen time is spent on this show. Instead of telling a story and taking us on an adventure, we are forced to watch pointless slow-motion drivel and arguments. They have all of Middle Earth to explore, and they choose to waste screentime on people like Isildur's dumb friend getting stabbed (that was only 1 episode ago, and already everyone has forgotten about it, and his death had zero consequence. It was just a cheap "emotional" moment, as if we are supposed to care that he's gone. Oh no, what will we ever do without... hmm... what was his name again? I mean he was so talented at... hmm.. well... he helped Numenor do... hmm... okay maybe he didn't really do anything....but you're supposed to care dammit!). Okay let's cut back to another scene of Durin and his dad bitching at eachother for the 14th hour straight jfc. Or how about Celebrimbor still not knowing that "Halbrand is Sauron" despite being 6 episodes into the season after Galadriel found out? So, Durin can just teleport to and from Eregion multiple times per episode, but Galadriel and her motley crew can't get the message to Eregion within 6 episodes worth of time? TF?? I'm cheering for Sauron at this point. If everyone in Middle earth is this incompetent and gullible they deserved to be enslaved by the darkness. Also why should I care if Numenor has a threat of an impending flood when everyone on that island is a bland insufferable clown (also the sea is always right, so shouldn't they proudly accept that fate?)
Considering Amazons missplaced Agenda with Guyladriel, I am not even certain whether or not it would be best to just give her any anonymous Elfen name at all. This way Amazon could just Stick with their Vision of the show without having to bend Tolkiens lore of Galadriels life to basically tailor the written Charakter of Galadriel around their storyline. I mean if the Protagonist of The Rings of Power would have been a new and unknown female elf, it wouldnt have hurt the Same as it is the case with the Galadriel we currently have.
I just find it funny that the show is explicit in showing that their awesome girlboss Galadrrrriel who don't need no stinky men is the one who doomed Middle Earth for the next Age.
Well, LOTR made Galandriel seem mystic, great, amazing, powerfull and so on and on. Even The Hobbit did it so, in their own way. Meanwhile here, they make her look annoying, insufferable, and too arrogant and narcissistic. Something I wouldn't expect from a great wise elf, that was amazingly portraid in LOTR. Basically, from a great amazing character, they turned her into one I don't even wanna look at. PS: Also, where is the mysticism of the wise elfs, that make them seem like otherwordly angels on earth. Here they seem like random humans with pointy ears.
It's weird, LOTR movies were believable and felt grounded like it took place in an actual place. Rings of Power doesn't feel like it's set in a real place or in an actual world. Feels like a cheap production.
Despite being non canon Eltariel is a better person than Galadriel because like Gal she’s full of herself and cocky but she isn’t perfect her greed overtakes her in the end as she takes the ring offered to her but she doesn’t do it for no reason she believes that the power of Gal and the ring will destroy Sauron but it doesn’t work and unlike Gal she ACTUALLY HELPS PEOPLE she rescues Talion from the wraiths she is an ally and helps him destroy multiple wraiths and orc captains (this is all from shadow of war in case you don’t know what I’m referring to)
The only good thing to come out of Amazon's billion dollar failed adaptation is that it reminds everyone how amazing Peter Jackson's Trilogy is. Thank God, Lord of the Rings was made in the early 2000s and was spared from this woke, identity politics trash.
I just can't believe their pushing this, specially the characters, you'd think they read all the reviews, take an really long hard look at their series and realize they need to go back to the drawing board, how can they make someone so unlikable/ungraceful more than sauron??
When there are series like Rings of Power out there, I still feel happy Lord of the Rings wasn't made around this decade, but a long time ago. It would've probably been butchered now.
I started watching it and done with the first season. It's GOOD. It's a nice fantasy series. It's entertaining. The dwarfs absolutely rock. I was almost not going to watch it because the insane amount of videos in youtube smashing this show.
im so fucking happy to have witnessed the LOTR triology in theaters back in 2001,02,03' I saw 2 episodes of this shit show.. The line where some stupid elf says "Do you know why the boat floats and the rock do not?" LIKE YEA!? PHYSICS!?!? Like they really thought they wrote some tolkien quote right there. So embarrassing and cringe this show is.. im baffled
From what I've seen of this show, it isn't even good objectively. If you stripped away any reference to Tolkien and took it as just another tv show, it would still be terrible.
